Stupid Shit in Brazil

[The Cane]

Bubba Boy's guide is of timeless value to Rio mongering because all the dynamics of meeting the girl in the terma are still true.

And we're still waiting for your promised updates to the "good book". No doubt at least another 10 1/2 years in the making (about as old as the guide is now), if ever LMAO!

[Spidy]

... Try to travel abroad and you might get laid.

Why, is that the only way YOU can get laid?

[Spidy]

I think that's not the history with me. My post can be read independently on its own...

Oh! You may want to re-read, what you wrote. Here let me re-post:

"You know those things are totally unrelated and it sounds more like you are your own slave, right? You also know if it takes even longer for you to visit Brazil, you will become Bubba boy 2, right?"

Clearly you're missing the point, AGAIN. I'll say it AGAIN, If I or anyone here weren't already clear, the whole history, gripe, grievance and bellyache, surrounding the Bwana Dik guide (aka. The Bubba Boy Guide), is with regards to VB1's inconsistent, in congruent and hypocritical stance on posting "age old information. " Yet all the while he was pushing and pimping a 10+ yr old document with 10+ yr old information. .

The Cane simply offered up the Bwana Dik guide (aka.The Bubba Boy Guide) as an EXAMPLE of VB1's hypocracy. That's it! Simple, nothing more, nothing less! NO ONE pushing back was was dismissing the information in the Bwana Dik guide (aka. The Bubba Boy Guide).

That is the HISTORY of the beef, surround the Bwana Dik guide (aka. The Bubba Boy Guide).

When you use Bwana Dik guide (aka. The Bubba Boy Guide) and The Cane's name in the way you do, MOST BMs (who know the history of the beef), think you're being disrespectfully and calling said BM (The Cane, or who ever that happens to be at the time) a hypocrite. Especially as it relates to posting and when the last time said BM was in Brazil and his information / experiences to report.

VB1 is the hypocrite (in this instance). Let's get that straight, ONCE and FOR ALL! It could have been "a holy book" written 2000 yrs ago, "as the the example", if that's what VB1 was pimping.

I think The Cane said it best:

... You want to come at me Nounce in a proxy war? Then you had better come correct and drop the bias that keeps you overlooking the transgressions of VB1 and Sperto while criticizing me. That's been tried many times before. It always fails.

... What I see is that TC is in a disadvantage position, and he digs his heels in. I underestimated the damage I could do and I did it intentionally to show certain aspect of things. I could apologize but as is he may misunderstand that I am apologizing something I am not.

Not sure what you're saying here.

I have to choose my words carefully in order to not cause more damage. I am not even sure if the word "damage" is appropriate but that is my best effort. I will have my tail between my legs go into hiding soon, hopefully with a newly-mint SB. hehe

Yes! Perhaps you should stop digging that hole, you are digging for yourself.

That said, perhaps YOU SHOULD EXPLAIN, how you are using the reference and / or relationship between The Cane and Bwana Dik guide (aka. The Bubba Boy Guide)?

"You know those things are totally unrelated and it sounds more like you are your own slave, right? You also know if it takes even longer for you to visit Brazil, you will become Bubba boy 2, right?"

So what do you REALLY mean? Especially now that I've explained it twice.

[Vagabundo1]

The genre of Covid is absurdist existentialism (see Joe Rogan's interview with the author of fight club).

A lot of what I write here is intentionally absurd. Think Zohan.

https://youtu.be/hL-bVY7YZQI

If people take what I write here seriously, they do so at their own risk.

Swiss Navy, it has been pointed out, is a brand of sex lubricant, the best for anal!

All that said, your statement is genius, "I'll never understand why some folks are trying so hard to prove anything. This is a mongering forum, for fuck's sake, not the UN. ".

As for criticizing other members economics, I will say this.

The daily volatility in your brokerage account, is probably far less than even the most generous monger at the most expensive venue. There are certainly days where it would have been better if I had simply gone to 4 x4 or Solarium and paid full price instead of placing a trade.

But the reason I discuss economics is that I am by virtue of Sperto's posts and Bubba Boy's Guide a frugal monger, and I have seen that one gets better sex if one speaks the local language a little, and sympathizes economically, to the extent of getting the same pricing as the locals. The local girls see a gringo who is obviously rich (if you have a 401 k or a IRA from a big rich world company, you're rich), and they have the reaction that Senor Bravo wrote about. When your pants are off, your dick is hard, and she's spreading her ass or pussy, you just want to be as close to a regular dude that she respects not as a economic victim or worse, a chato gringo who she is eager to get rid of and despises.

I've never met VB, I don't share his political views (my goodness, I don't! His sometimes harsh criticism of other members, or his weird paramilitary inclinations (LOL), but I do share his passion about having fun in Rio. And I like his anecdotes and datapoints, too. Helps to stay "hydrated" between my trips, kkk.

Now, changing handles to prove a point is unseemly, if true. I'll never understand why some folks are trying so hard to prove anything. This is a mongering forum, for fuck's sake, not the UN.

[The Cane]

TC's view about cash in principle is right and it can still be considered timeless. But on the practical side is out of date because technology improvements as I have pointed out. I only showed facts and what I saw on the ground, and not even trying to argue. TC seemed to dig into a position and at the same time seemed to think others are the same. He showed a report but seemed to ignore on the ground latest evidences, thus I said dug his heels in and one of the places that I draw the parallel from. I am flexible and I tell you when I used cash as I have shown in my post.

I presented an article from February of this year that cites data from Abecs indicating that one quarter of electronic payments in Brazil are contactless. Abecs is the association in Brazil that represents that country's electronic payments sector. So, you know more about it than they do? I don't think so. The same article stated further that contactless payments are growing exponentially in Brazil (I acknowledged that), and could soon reach 50%. I said that if and when it gets to 75%, then I would be comfortable (that's my flexibility level). So what's your self-professed obsession with what I said? And I emphasize I because again, if it's Sperto saying it, then you don't seem to have anything to say about it yourself then. And if Vagabundo is being a jerk, you never have anything to say about that either. But you're always following me around in this thread and that trying to step on my dick. Now how unpleasant is that? Seems like the obsession is with me. Now, if by "digging in" you mean sticking with the facts over your anecdotal evidence of what you saw, well then you're doggone right! I will go with well-presented facts from reliable sources each and every time, and not be swayed by the fact that a monger posted a picture of a street sausage seller accepting credit cards LOL! And then fessed up to paying cash in the end hahahaha! OMFG too funny!

[Nounce]

Last year, I was conversing with a member ..

I think the member who deleted his account was a SP resident

[Nounce]

Just to be clear, for me, (The Cane or anyone else can speak for themselves), the "dismissal" of Bwana Dik guide (aka.The Bubba Boy Guide), was largely due to VB1's hypocracy w/r to "age old information" and his prejudicial judgment, over it coming from one source verses the other.

It's not about dismissing something or about my agreement / disagreement with it. I am just pointing out the inconsistency of viewpoints and I draw a parallel from that to show it.

TC's view about cash in principle is right and it can still be considered timeless. But on the practical side is out of date because technology improvements as I have pointed out. I only showed facts and what I saw on the ground, and not even trying to argue. TC seemed to dig into a position and at the same time seemed to think others are the same. He showed a report but seemed to ignore on the ground latest evidences, thus I said dug his heels in and one of the places that I draw the parallel from. I am flexible and I tell you when I used cash as I have shown in my post.

Just want to give you a straight answer and unfortunately I have to give an example which maybe unpleasant the way I put it. I hope that can clear up something

[The Cane]

I have to choose my words carefully in order to not cause more damage. I am not even sure if the word "damage" is appropriate but that is my best effort. I will have my tail between my legs go into hiding soon

I don't know about anybody else, but I'm not seeking any apologies from anybody. And speaking of "damage", it's VB1's behavior here (and other places) that has done a lot of that. I don't like him, and I'm not alone in that. He's damn right we'll never meet! And as long as you choose to keep acting as his "proxy" (yes you do), then to use Spidy's language, that's going to lead to "dust ups" between us too. I think it's best if the both of you just stay out of my business, and me out of yours. And as for Sperto, when it's all said and done, at the end of the day who gives a shit? He's long since been pushed to the margins since his old crew all abandoned him LOL (those of you who have been around a long time know who).

[Nounce]

Thanks you for your explanation, it was much appreciated!

I think The Cane, has answered your other questions, explained himself and has given you his history and "context" behind the Bwana Dik guide (aka. The Bubba Boy Guide) dust-up, amongst other things.

I think that's not the history with me. My post can be read independently on its own. What I see is that TC is in a disadvantage position, and he digs his heels in. I underestimated the damage I could do and I did it intentionally to show certain aspect of things. I could apologize but as is he may misunderstand that I am apologizing something I am not.

I have to choose my words carefully in order to not cause more damage. I am not even sure if the word "damage" is appropriate but that is my best effort. I will have my tail between my legs go into hiding soon, hopefully with a newly-mint SB. hehe

[The Cane]

Isn't that strange? I've put you on my ignore list years ago so I don't have to read your posts, still you keep mentioning my in your posts. Now I got a PM you wrote about me. How about you leave me out of your posts? Try to travel abroad and you might get laid.

It is strange isn't it? That you always seem to respond to somebody who you're supposedly ignoring LOL! Try not going to dirty prives where you have to use an old flyer to grip the railings so as to avoid getting Vagabundo's cum on your hands will you? Hahahaha!

[The Cane]

But as we all know; talk is cheap.

Why are you running your mouth then? "Shoetroll" LOLOLOL! If the "shoe" fits wear it bro.

[The Cane]

Xpartan, both, The Cane and Wyatt Earp, have responded to this with their POVs, insights and knowledge on the matter and I found their post to be illuminating and has peeked my curiosity. I can't speak to this topic and have no first hand knowledge to share.

But it is a VERY INTERESTING topic of concern. Perhaps raising the question:

• Does bullying/extreme quarreling lead to quitting ISG?

• Or is it more than just quarreling?

Hopefully, it would provide more POVs from more BMs and more answers?

You do have knowledge that I shared with you by PM that is in fact my own firsthand knowledge gathered from the subject former senior member himself. I told you who the senior member who quit is by name, and you did your own research and found indeed that the man has not posted here in ages, and you can't even find his handle here anymore (it seems his old posts now just appear as "member" with a number following). You know my intel is solid Spidy, and you ought to acknowledge that versus beating around the bushes. I have also conveyed who it is to WyattEarp, another monger here whom I trust. I was going to fill Xpartan in and let him know as well, but his mailbox was full. And as I told you both (Spidy and WyattEarp), I don't mention who it is here publicly because the guy told me he was afraid that if VB1 found out about how he felt about him (and about some other things this unknown monger was involved in), that VB1 would try to "doxx" him. The "unknown monger" conveyed to me that he had seen VB1 do that to at least one other person.

So, I have respected his privacy by not naming him here publicly. My information is solid and backed up by the facts, and I don't appreciate Xpartan challenging my veracity. He may think it's a ridiculous assertion, but that shows just what he knows about it, which is nothing. And WyattEarp recently conveyed what he knows about another member walking away from the board because of VB1, a situation which I was also aware of as well, but the person was not a senior member with gravitas here like the other I have referred to. Like we used to say back in the day, if you don't know then you better ask somebody! Both Spidy and WyattEarp know! Ask them if it's just some "ridiculous" bullshit I made up or what? They know the facts because I told them, and they could easily do some quick checking on their own (and I know that Spidy did) to confirm. I'm not about to torpedo the credibility I've established over the years by spreading a bunch of bullshit lies. The facts prove the veracity of my statements on this. And that's what matters. The facts.

[Spidy]

... The Cane dismisses BB's writing...

Just to be clear, for me, (The Cane or anyone else can speak for themselves), the "dismissal" of Bwana Dik guide (aka.The Bubba Boy Guide), was largely due to VB1's hypocracy w/r to "age old information" and his prejudicial judgment, over it coming from one source verses the other.

I, was not "dismissing", The Bwana Dik guide (aka.The Bubba Boy Guide), as I know it is still useful and has value to some BMs and yet not so much for others. Nevertheless, it remains "one of many sources of information" and it's relevance or value, is accessed according to each individual's mongering travel goals, needs and priorities.

But the sad fact is, the The Bwana Dik guide (aka.The Bubba Boy Guide), barely registers on most mongerer's radar as a "go-to-source", when mongering in Brazil, these days.

... And I know of one senior member who actually quit the board altogether. He stopped posting and got rid of his account (the last time I searched for him I could not find him here). ...

Come on, this is just ridiculous. People leave forums for all kinds of reasons. I don't know how thin-skinned one must be to get rid of his account just because he's gotten in q(uarrel)...

As ridiculous as it may seem, it's the truth. And I have zero reason to lie about it. Now, I won't reveal the member's name publicly because I don't think he would want that. I will say that I didn't believe him when he told me he was out of here. I didn't think he was going to do it, but he did, and he said it was because he thought VB1 had ruined the Brazil section over a two-year period, ...

Last year, I was conversing with a member who wrote some great posts last year about Rio. He had become a target of animosity. He and others joined an infamous member's posse for a ride around town. His crime was that he was underwhelmed with some of the venues on the itinerary and politely posted such...

Xpartan, both, The Cane and Wyatt Earp, have responded to this with their POVs, insights and knowledge on the matter and I found their post to be illuminating and has peeked my curiosity. I can't speak to this topic and have no first hand knowledge to share.

But it is a VERY INTERESTING topic of concern. Perhaps raising the question:

• Does bullying/extreme quarreling lead to quitting ISG?

• Or is it more than just quarreling?

Hopefully, it would provide more POVs from more BMs and more answers?

... Annoying or not, he brings a lot of useful info and valuable datapoints for those 99% of us who travel occasionally and can't just move to Brazil.

Agreed! VB1's intel on several things, have been very beneficial for me personally and on occasion, I have found his POVs to be of interest. Although these days I just "ignore" much of his posts (as I am sure he does mine).

Although, that is not currently what I was debuting here (at least not by me), I understand, much of the dialogue presented will often "spin-off" sub-categories/issues. This can be a good thing, most times.

... You want to come at me Nounce in a proxy war? Then you had better come correct and drop the bias that keeps you overlooking the transgressions of VB1 and Sperto while criticizing me. That's been tried many times before. It always fails.

Cane, while I agree with your sentiment, the use of "proxy war" (albeit probably just a "turn of phrase"), sounded a bit too nuclear (...kkk), but I get your drift. "Dust-up" works for me.

My intent here, isn't to malign or disparage anyone. It is to simply clear up any misconceptions and provide "context" and "clarity", w/r to The Bwana Dik guide (aka.The Bubba Boy Guide), and to give BMs an opportunity to present their POVs and air their differences.

Hopefully this round of discussions and dialogue has done just that.

NOTE: This topic is still open (as far as I am concerned), if other BMs, still wish to weigh-in. Although, I have to admit the silence is deafening coming from the "peanut gallery".

[Xpartan]

1. Cleaned my mail.

2. I think I know who you mean, and it's unfortunate if that's the case. He's skillful and entertaining writer, I'm sorry he quit.

3. Cane, I never meant to call you a liar (or imply that). Sorry if it came out like that.

But listen, I've never met VB, I don't share his political views (my goodness, I don't! His sometimes harsh criticism of other members, or his weird paramilitary inclinations (LOL), but I do share his passion about having fun in Rio. And I like his anecdotes and datapoints, too. Helps to stay "hydrated" between my trips, kkk.

Now, changing handles to prove a point is unseemly, if true. I'll never understand why some folks are trying so hard to prove anything. This is a mongering forum, for fuck's sake, not the UN.

[Spidy]

In short,

I value BB's writing and I value The Cane's writing. The Cane dismisses BB's writing. I assume The Cane's values The Cane's writing.

When I compare The Cane to BB, it is a compliment from me like I stated in my post. I guess The Cane is not upset about my compliment. But there is a conflict based on The Cane's view, so what

do you think The Cane is upset with? ...

Thanks you for your explanation, it was much appreciated!

I think The Cane, has answered your other questions, explained himself and has given you his history and "context" behind the Bwana Dik guide (aka. The Bubba Boy Guide) dust-up, amongst other things.