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  1. #544
    Quote Originally Posted by PhilJoy  [View Original Post]
    ....we've dealt with influencers and Only Fans models. There's so many out there and the ones that are making all the money are true professionals, albeit, pretty pretentious too. Niche marketing is the key for the millions of girls now flashing their bits on Instagram and Only Fans. Most of them are doing the same thing. I suppose it could be a bit like the bar / girly scene. If they become 'known' for giving the best BJ's, best anal, best GF experience, that's going to work for them....
    To be fair, the superstars are also treating OF etc as a very serious job. They will have a team of professional location scouts, photographers, SEOers etc and dedicate a lot of time and effort into self promotion while the dreamers will real off a couple of nawty pics with their phone and wait for the millions to hopefully roll in.

    I remember having the exact same conversation with a newbie bar girl who lamented that, while she knew she was pretty, she wasn't building up a list of repeat customers that other girls were. I said the same: that there are a million girls out there that are good in bed but it's the great blow jobs, threesome girls etc that guys remember and return too. Its definitely true as I also had a GF who's sister had no problems keeping bfs despite staying a virgin. Being known as the best BJ in town certainly helped.

    I found it interesting that girls make up the OF superstars but guys actually earn more on average. Again probably because girls just do the same thing while the guys are twinks, fetishers etc that creat a dedicated following.

    Cheers. G.

  2. #543
    Quote Originally Posted by KumuMan  [View Original Post]
    I'd like to know the amount with the Korean and Japanese Whales that accompany them in Okada. These whales drop 10 g on the black jack tables and they are shiiit players but all is to impress their "date". You won't see the Chinese gamblers with a date though, they are very serious gamblers. They gamble not to impress but to beat the shiit out of the casino The dates with these Asian Whales are spectacular 10's, I wouldn't doubt they only work only 1 week out of the month, the rest of the time they hibernate till the call for the next Whale in town.
    Best and most lucrative job in town. Casino host or manager. Double dip in tips. Whales for their referrals and special gifts from the girls to stay on their list.

  3. #542
    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    It would be interesting to see similar online girl earnings. If we are talking the top 1%, then I wouldn't doubt that the IG girls are pulling in well over 150 k from sponsors, Daddies and general VCS simps.

    Its always the top girls who make the vast proportion of the money.

    "Average OnlyFans creator earns $150-180 monthly; the top 1% earn 33% of total revenue. ".

    Cheers. G.
    Hi G, agree, it's all about competition really. We sell lingerie and sex toys online and we've dealt with influencers and Only Fans models. There's so many out there and the ones that are making all the money are true professionals, albeit, pretty pretentious too. Niche marketing is the key for the millions of girls now flashing their bits on Instagram and Only Fans. Most of them are doing the same thing. I suppose it could be a bit like the bar / girly scene. If they become 'known' for giving the best BJ's, best anal, best GF experience, that's going to work for them. Interestingly, some of the models we've worked with, or have tried to work with in The Philippines, don't mind bedding a foreigner but are really shy when it comes to sexy photo shoots (and that's not even showing their faces in pics). They have no concept of Instagram and the potential money they could make via Insta and on Only Fans as Filipina beauties, as opposed to all the millions of white chicks doing the same thing. Thankfully I found one who boasted she gave the best BJ's and she lived up to the promise. And her WhatsApp details are in my phone, as opposed to the IG account she doesn't have.

  4. #541
    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    It would be interesting to see similar online girl earnings. If we are talking the top 1%, then I wouldn't doubt that the IG girls are pulling in well over 150 k from sponsors, Daddies and general VCS simps.

    Its always the top girls who make the vast proportion of the money.

    "Average OnlyFans creator earns $150-180 monthly; the top 1% earn 33% of total revenue. ".

    Cheers. G.
    I'd like to know the amount with the Korean and Japanese Whales that accompany them in Okada. These whales drop 10 g on the black jack tables and they are shiiit players but all is to impress their "date". You won't see the Chinese gamblers with a date though, they are very serious gamblers. They gamble not to impress but to beat the shiit out of the casino The dates with these Asian Whales are spectacular 10's, I wouldn't doubt they only work only 1 week out of the month, the rest of the time they hibernate till the call for the next Whale in town.

  5. #540

    Rental Rant

    My landlady raised my house rent 10% here in Valencia outside Dumaguete and then wants me to move out in six months after I already purchased more comfortable furniture and better appliances. Sure is a stupid Filipina broad with the body and face of a pig. Fuck it. I'll find a better place and take my stuff with me. The neighborhood is too noisy, anyway, with frequent electrical and water problems. Rant over.

  6. #539
    Quote Originally Posted by NapaSlapper  [View Original Post]
    Truth behind Bargirl earning...
    It would be interesting to see similar online girl earnings. If we are talking the top 1%, then I wouldn't doubt that the IG girls are pulling in well over 150 k from sponsors, Daddies and general VCS simps.

    Its always the top girls who make the vast proportion of the money.

    "Average OnlyFans creator earns $150-180 monthly; the top 1% earn 33% of total revenue. ".

    Cheers. G.

  7. #538
    Quote Originally Posted by NapaSlapper  [View Original Post]
    I don't go back to angeles. I live and work in Angeles and have done so for multiple years.

    I sure as hell would not choose to live near Angeles for the bars or the quality of most bar girls that's For sure but stay because I have high paying work here.

    Please don't let my findings put you or anyone else off a visit, give it a try.
    NonSense. I thought you were owner of a big business employing over 120 employees. With contracts with big Korean companies, shuttling and hosting Korean clients back and forth to AC Walking Street?

  8. #537

    Truth or myth

    Truth behind Bargirl earning.

    A very good friend that works as a model show girl in a very well known angeles city korean oriented bar was telling me about her popularity for lady drinks and tips and what her minimum expected earning are.

    Her quoted numbers were.

    1000 peso per night salary,1000 peso per night tips and making it rain money.

    Minimum 20 lady drinks per night at 175 peso commission to the girl per drink which is another 3,500 peso per night, giving a grand total of 5,500 peso per night, not bad for a country where many people live on 200-300 peso per day in the cities and 100 peso per day in the boonies.

    Could this possibly be true? I knew she was very popular amongst the high spending korean crowd in her bar as I always saw her either on stage doing her shows or sitting with a lady drink.

    I started asking the question of bar girls earnings in the bar to some of the angeles city bar owners and managers I know well enough where they would speak openly and honestly to me including my bar girl friends bar owner but without mentioning what she had told me, yes was the answer, many of the top girls are on that amounts of salaries, commissions, in fact one korean bar owner pointed out one of his girls and said she held the record of girl drinks at 32 drinks commissions in 1 night, of course most lady drinks are juice shots so not a chance of getting drunk for the popular girls with the massive drink counts.

    5,500 pesos on average per night for a popular girl, that's over 150,000 peso per month all without showing the colour of their undies to anyone.

    Exactly why we have so many girls who have the looks and body to be popular insisting on drinks only, yet we have some clowns on here claiming they can walk into any of the korean bars and barfine any girl long time after buying 1 drink and a 4,000 peso barfine of which the bar girl will get 1,500 -2,000 peso if she is lucky, therefore losing the bargirls some 3,500 peso per night by bar fining v being a drinks only girls.

    As we know all bar girls are in the business to earn the biggest pay day for the least amount of work and it seems many girls are able to do just that, earn great money while socialising in the bar all while not having to lower herself to fucking and sucking anyone. Good for the girls I say, not bitter in the slightest that the top girl have found a better way of life.

  9. #536
    Quote Originally Posted by Aml3740  [View Original Post]
    I've never been to Angeles. I thought about it at one point, but didn't go, and probably never will now. I will just make an observation. If I don't like a place, I don't go back. From what I hear, Angeles is pretty miserable except for the girls. If the girls aren't good and the bar scene is miserable, then why does NS keep going back? It doesn't make sense. At least that is what logic seems to speak. . .

    This hobby takes all types. I just don't understand why some people try to shame or drive people away from something just because they don't like it.
    I don't go back to angeles. I live and work in Angeles and have done so for multiple years.

    I sure as hell would not choose to live near Angeles for the bars or the quality of most bar girls that's For sure but stay because I have high paying work here.

    Please don't let my findings put you or anyone else off a visit, give it a try.

  10. #535

    Credibility

    I've never been to Angeles. I thought about it at one point, but didn't go, and probably never will now. I will just make an observation. If I don't like a place, I don't go back. From what I hear, Angeles is pretty miserable except for the girls. If the girls aren't good and the bar scene is miserable, then why does NS keep going back? It doesn't make sense. At least that is what logic seems to speak. . .

    This hobby takes all types. I just don't understand why some people try to shame or drive people away from something just because they don't like it.

  11. #534
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    When you say Koreans are spending good money how much are you talking about being spent while in the bar for lady drinks and tipping girls directly (ie. Not including for the girl to go out). Would like an idea if I can compete for the girls.

    Are your Western friends not getting attention in Korean bars solely because they aren't Asian or because they aren't willing to spend as much or more than the Koreans on the girls in a bar?

    Thanks for the great update.
    Let me try to answer as to what I and many western friends see on our many barhops.

    Better looking Girls in the korean oriented bars give no attention to westerners simply because they are westerners, they are asian only girls, they have no interest at all in whitey.

    To know why, one has to accept that koreans like korean only girls as many have said, if a korean saw a girl he likes giving attention, drinking, bar fining with a westerner then she will be ignored by the koreans in future hence losing the said girl her earnings, many korean oriented bar owners / managers know of the koreans preference in korean only girls and many bars instruct the girls to give full attention to the asian punters, it is what it is unfortunately.

    As said before, my western drinking buddies refuse to attend asian oriented bars because of the above reasons, yes the little gang of angeles appologists on here will have one beleive korean only girls will barfine with westerners, have not found this to be the case at all, in fact the complete opposite is true IMHO, hence my western drinking buddies refuse to drink in korean oriented bars, why should they when they are treated differently because of skin colour.

    As far as how much asians spend in bars compared to westerners then I would say asians party in a different way to westerners, many asian friends attend the bars for a night out and think nothing of having 2-3 girls sitting at the table for each 1 asian, many times there are 3 guys but we have multiple girls as company in the bar, buying lady drinks, making it rain, tipping the girls directly for their good company in the bar, many times spending thousands of peso even without wanting to barfining with anyone.

    When asia friends do barfine, they do not even question the girls cost, they just pay for what they want, often taking the girls out for dinner or a disco before the hotel room, what's not to like for the girls.

    My western friends tend to hit the western bars where they will get some attention, they tend to table a girl of their choice, quickly buying maybe a couple of drinks for themselves and mainly only the one lady drink they do not make it rain or tend to spend much in the bars their whole purpose is to find what they want and quickly head straight for the hotel.

    I always spend far far less barhopping in the company of western friend than korean friends, both groups party in different ways, the westerners are quick to get laid with as little cost the asians often are just about having a good time, often spending wildly on just that, it seems for asians having a good time and gaining face about how much they can spend is important, fucking comes second in importance for many asians friends.

    Stories of westerners can choose amongst the better looking girls of angeles or bar fine just as attractive girls are just that stories.

    Have seen many korean friends with some nice looking girls, my western friends not so much so, hope that helps with some answers.

  12. #533
    Quote Originally Posted by Dg8787  [View Original Post]
    4 year old information is of no value in 2024.

    AC was only open in January and February as the lock down went into effect.

    I have noticed the higher barfines now have produced a better crop of ladies.

    2024.
    I think you will find that in truth although barfines increase regularly the quality of girls declines year by year IMHO.

    What one saw in the bars 4 years ago and was not happy with at all would be completely shocked by the present crop of bargirls on offer, especially those available to mr westerner.

    Angeles has died a death as many are saying, westerners in angeles are in very few numbers, asian punter numbers are high, especially at weekends, take away the asians spending from angeles and it would be lights out.

  13. #532
    Quote Originally Posted by SirLancelot  [View Original Post]
    Your posts should be followed with a 'Fake news' warning.

    I was recently in Angeles and the place was hopping. The bars were busy with lots of customers, there were lots of girls and plenty of pretty ones. Some bars were so busy with customers I struggled to get a seat. The stage was so packed with girls at Viking, they had a line of girls dancing in front of the stage too. You make the place out to be a ghost-town but the truth is quite different.

    You also have an obsession with Koreans. You try to put people off by implying westerners don't have a chance. I'm a white British guy in my late forties and on my trip I fucked the best looking black-tape dancer in Avalon (one of your beloved Korean bars) and an extremely hot Japanese-looking girl in Genesis, who three sour-faced Koreans tried to barfine under my nose. They literally asked a waitress to invite her over to join them despite the fact I'd bought her a drink. She told me this had happened as we walked down Fields Avenue back to my hotel, telling me she hates the arrogance of customers like that.

    Angeles is a candy-shop, full of willing young, pretty girls, willing to spread their legs for cash. Anyone visiting, whether Western, Korean or Martian, will have the time of their life.
    Thanks for your input.

    As always, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, what you thought was the best looking girl in a certain bar might have been the girl all the others would not be seen dead with.

    You always rave about angeles city, how each girl was a stunner and the best sex you have had, I find the guys claiming such are the guys that normally spend long periods in loveless countries, they head to asia for a few days and because they can find a bit of attention from the lower end girls they start to dream all is rosy and they are kings.

    After multiple claims of young stunners throwing themselves at you not one posted picture of such from you, maybe its all just an over active immagination.

    Anyways, before you claim yes but you never post photos of the stunners, yes you are correct for the reason there are no stunners, far from it as me and multiple members have been saying for quite some years now.

  14. #531

    Apples and Oranges

    Quote Originally Posted by ATraveler  [View Original Post]
    Living in the USA, my biggest worries were about work. My job caused me a lot of stress. Projects, deadlines, people asking me questions I didn't know how to answer, etc.

    I have none of those worries here. Here in AC, my biggest worry is scheduling girls. I have been texting the Perimeter waitress to coordinate the threeway for tomorrow afternoon. Then, out of the blue, the missing Walking Street dancer texted me. Her story is she went to Manila to spend time with her aunt and cousin. Sure. She's going to go sign in to work, come directly to my place, and act like my girlfriend as long as I pay her barfine.

    So now my problems are: will she be gone before the next girls arrive tomorrow afternoon? Will I have power to boom boom three girls in one day? And it won't be cheap. Each Perimeter girl is 2,500, and the Walking Street girl is 4,000. The only reason she is 4,000 instead of 5,000 is that she doesn't want to wear a T back bikini.
    Your biggest worries in the USA is about work because you are working and the work is causing you a lot of stress. When you go to AC on vacation, you're on vacation and you don't have to worry about work. That is the way it usually is. But I understand that you trying to be funny.

  15. #530
    Quote Originally Posted by MoonShot  [View Original Post]
    True.

    I can't tell you the number of guys who think that the girl is in love with them and there is some special connection. But as soon as you leave, it is next guy up and she will make him feel the same way and he will be thinking the same thing. Most girls have a number of "special" guys who think they mean more to the girl than other guys. Just part of the game.
    Haha. So true. Can't count the number of times I've been fucking some bargirl while she is on the phone with her "BF" in Europe or US telling him she is in the province and no work bar anymore. I just fuck her harder cause its fun watching her try not to squeal while on the phone. Just how desperate do you have to be to think a 20 year old prostitute 10000 miles away is in love with you waiting for your obese 65 year old ass to come back? Its simple. Fuck them, Pay them and Leave them. If you communicate with them after you go home, you are sap and they will take your money.

    Last time I was in AC a young white stud brought his "girlfriend" and her "family" to Aqua. It was hilarious watching him trying to impress them with buying drinks and food etc. And they were just looking at him like a pig being fattened for the slaughter.

    Guys, if you wouldn't marry a stripper or prostitute in your own country why would you do it here? A little more thinking with the other head PLEASE!

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