Stupid Shit in the Philippines

[Wicked Roger]

Another Board member here relayed this story to me over coffee. One of his regulars works at a bookstore. On her shift she is assigned to stock one area, the stationary (pens, pencils, paper, etc.). On her day off, an expensive item went missing (p1500). The girl (who was not there that day), along with several others who were stocking that area that day, and the security guard were collectively docked the pro-rated amounts from their sweldo. You can get in trouble at work even when you aren't there.

Another example and a bigger pesos one.

Cutie I know works in sales. A co worker took PHP50000 from a client as a down payment for an event. She lost it / mislaid it or whatever. Despite being on vacation all 5 sales agents lost PHP10 k from their miserably low salary. The manager did not receive a deduction oddly.

Stupid stuff and typical of some firms sadly.

As you said Westie "You can get in trouble at work even when you aren't there".

[WestCoast1]

This week a girl told me she working as a cashier in a mall during Sinulog, the till was 999 pesos short at end of her shift, her pay was docked 999 pesos.

Another Board member here relayed this story to me over coffee. One of his regulars works at a bookstore. On her shift she is assigned to stock one area, the stationary (pens, pencils, paper, etc.). On her day off, an expensive item went missing (p1500). The girl (who was not there that day), along with several others who were stocking that area that day, and the security guard were collectively docked the pro-rated amounts from their sweldo. You can get in trouble at work even when you aren't there.

And this Stupid Shit concept applies elsewhere. A co-worker of mine some years back took the day off for his sister's funeral. He informed management ahead of time. He didn't tell anyone else that his estranged sister had passed away. That morning before work, several of his co-workers decided to prank him, they'd brought some helium balloons that were risque and put them on his desk before the work day began. They also messy'd his work area by messing up his desk and filling his trash can to overflowing. Haha. On organizational bigwig showed up, unannounced, and asked for the nickel tour of the facility. A manager (who was not aware the co-worker was gone to a funeral) showed the bigwig around, and they saw the messy work area. The next day the co-worker returned to work, to be disciplined for the risque balloons. Telling management that he was legitimately at a funeral did not work. He got a (meaningless) letter in his work jacket. Great!

Another girl this week told me she had been working in some kind of low level government job last year but had to quit because the time to first pay day was 3 months after the start date and she could not make it. There are many examples of Phili being taking advantage of by their fellow countrymen. Yes, there are many stories framed to scam but plenty of real abuse to go around too.

Few years ago one of my province regulars got a city hall (or local government building) for a local government biggie. Her job was to greet visitors and direct them to the appropriate office. How do you like it sweetie? "OK. So easy. I come there. I tell people what office to go. Anyone can do this". Nice. A month later: Enjoying the sweldo sweetie? "Not so. 2 months now no pay. They pay with debit card. Must have bank account BDO to deposit the sweldo with the card. Can not get cash with the card. Will quit maybe. Ride 2 jeeps to here and 2 jeeps to home each day, 28 pesos. Five days is p140. I don't have money to continue. Can you help me make BDO account?" Ba-Jesus! She quit shortly after and never received a peso.

[ForkTruck]

the consequences of them getting a cash transaction wrong,

This week a girl told me she working as a cashier in a mall during Sinulog, the till was 999 pesos short at end of her shift, her pay was docked 999 pesos. This is the equivalent of 3 days pay for her. I asked her if she was angry about being docked, she said no because that is just how it is done and of course if you want to keep the job. Another girl this week told me she had been working in some kind of low level government job last year but had to quit because the time to first pay day was 3 months after the start date and she could not make it. There are many examples of Phili being taking advantage of by their fellow countrymen. Yes, there are many stories framed to scam but plenty of real abuse to go around too.

[Kabul Guy]

I find it a bit arrogant knocking the workers in ph. You've been fortunate to have a western education, you don't know whether these girls dropped out of school at early age, the consequences of them getting a cash transaction wrong, them being nervous dealing with cash or being nervous dealing with foreigners.

Regardless they are human beings and you are in their country, but it's upto you how you treat people.

I never said anything to her or made and roll eye type of non verbal comment, just here will I openly laugh at her.

Who knows perhaps it was an employment equity program that got her the job. Hire the Stupid.

[Dg8787]

I find it a bit arrogant knocking the workers in ph. You've been fortunate to have a western education, you don't know whether these girls dropped out of school at early age, the consequences of them getting a cash transaction wrong, them being nervous dealing with cash or being nervous dealing with foreigners.

Regardless they are human beings and you are in their country, but it's upto you how you treat people.

Most times the western education is worthless in PH. Creating educated useless idiots.

Most PH workers are still 6 month contracted employees, which means you might encounter a new employee without proper training. Most employers will deduct from the employees salary for any cash shortage. One reason why they will take the time to make sure they have counted right.

The other day I was buying apples and oranges from a makeshift sidewalk vendor. It was staffed by 2 kids age 7 and 9. The fruits are priced by the different sizes. As I was putting apples in the bag the kids were counting out loud the cumulative total. 20-40-60, then I tried to goof them up by taking out an apple and placing oranges in the bag, then I would put in different sizes which were priced differently. They each keep up with total as I was making a game of it. I was impressed as I know educated western college grads wouldn't be able to add and and subtract in their head.

There are times when the foreigners are the dumbest ones.

[WestCoast1]

Was in a store in a Mall and the total was 1,390. SNIP Finally the half watt light bulb turns on, "I received exact amount, Po". Took about 5 minutes in total to arrive at that conclusion.

Similar. Cebu McDonalds, Bohol St, next door to the PUV Ayala terminal. 6 am. Looking over the menu above, I asked for the chicken ala king breakfast. The menu showed two prices: p115 for the base foods of chicken, rice, egg (and its picture). Just next to that was a small picture showing inclusion of coffee and hash brown for p130. When I ordered I mentioned the coffee and hash brown. Girl: "Huh?" I pointed to the pic above her head. "Oh. Ok. Any additional sir?" No. "I repeat your order. One Chicken ala King meal with hash brown and coffee". Yes, just like that. I pointed to the menu, and she looked again at the menu. "Total 145 sir". Without thinking (the price was different), I handed her p150 and she gave back p5). When I received the food on a tray a minute later from a different clerk, I realized the price difference. I asked the second clerk: Is this meal the same meal as pictured on that menu? "Yes sir". Cost for this meal? "130 pesos sir". I showed her the receipt of p145. "Yes sir, because you receiving a large coffee". The original girl had not attempted a coffee up-sell. To be fair to any customer, the picture on the menu showing the hash brown and coffee is very small, you would have no idea if that is a regular or large coffee. The first girl heard us talking and walked over. No, ladies I did not order a large coffee. I pointed directly at the menu, twice, that is what I ordered. "Oh yes. I see sir. Sorry po". I asked the first girl if I had asked for a large coffee: "No". Simple mistake on her part, which I can understand. I assumed the girls would do something to remedy the situation, as in offering the p15 differential back, or replace the large coffee with a regular coffee and refund the p15. Nothing. A stare-off. Finally the second girl said again: "Sorry again po". It can be disheartening. I'd like to blame this on cultural difference, but I have seen locals have the same problem over the years of the order being mis-handled or mis-interpreted at the cashier. Have rarely seen this kind of problem in other countries (only on odd or unusually large orders). The entire idea behind giving certain popular meals a picture (and / or a designation such as meal #1, #2, or S1, or Y2) is that there does not need to be discussion of the included items in the meal (drink choice possibly). You receive the pictured meal unless the customer customizes the order differently. To be able to point to the meal requested should take all guess-work from the system.

[Nice Guy 99]

I find it a bit arrogant knocking the workers in ph. You've been fortunate to have a western education, you don't know whether these girls dropped out of school at early age, the consequences of them getting a cash transaction wrong, them being nervous dealing with cash or being nervous dealing with foreigners.

Regardless they are human beings and you are in their country, but it's upto you how you treat people.

Amen, Jingo.

[Jingo10]

I find it a bit arrogant knocking the workers in ph. You've been fortunate to have a western education, you don't know whether these girls dropped out of school at early age, the consequences of them getting a cash transaction wrong, them being nervous dealing with cash or being nervous dealing with foreigners.

Regardless they are human beings and you are in their country, but it's upto you how you treat people.

[Kabul Guy]

Everything is relative Kabul Guy. Was she attractive? If she was attractive then her low wattage light bulb slowly turning on was charming. If she was unattractive then it was all a pain in the ass. I am assuming she was not very attractive. To avoid these waste of time transactions I always use a credit card to make similar purchases whenever possible. Young people from most countries, including my own, have a hard time with counting and arithmetic. You are definitely "old school" to expect any different. Ha Ha. They also have trouble with reading and writing longhand (cursive).

She was a fugly so it was a PITA.

[Member #4698]

Was in a store in a Mall and the total was 1,390. I gave the sales girl a 1,000, a 100 5 x50 and 2 x20 or in other words the exact amount. She counted it. Then again, then 3 times. Counted very slowly. Finally the half watt light bulb turns on, "I received exact amount, Po".

Took about 5 minutes in total to arrive at that conclusion.

Everything is relative Kabul Guy. Was she attractive? If she was attractive then her low wattage light bulb slowly turning on was charming. If she was unattractive then it was all a pain in the ass. I am assuming she was not very attractive. To avoid these waste of time transactions I always use a credit card to make similar purchases whenever possible. Young people from most countries, including my own, have a hard time with counting and arithmetic. You are definitely "old school" to expect any different. Ha Ha. They also have trouble with reading and writing longhand (cursive).

[Kabul Guy]

Was in a store in a Mall and the total was 1,390.

I gave the sales girl a 1,000, a 100 5 x50 and 2 x20 or in other words the exact amount.

She counted it. Then again, then 3 times. Counted very slowly.

Out comes the calculator, she adds it 1000+100+50+50+50+50+50+20+20. About 5 seconds between key presses.

Looks at the displayed total.

Adds it again.

Counts it again.

Adds it a third time, looks at the total, subtracts 1390 from the total. Looks totally confused.

Finally the half watt light bulb turns on, "I received exact amount, Po".

Took about 5 minutes in total to arrive at that conclusion.

[JohnIsFun]

Had some cuties asking for help as house in trouble but when I pointed out their place was in Cebu and further south they stopped chatting to me. But am sure some with no real knowledge of geography as they rarely travel outside their home country will feel sorry for them LOL.

That's Philippine for you. Most girls won't hesitate to get a quick buck from you. Last year with the storms a girl I was chatting sent pics of flooded house asking for help. Since this girl seemed to be a working girl I politely refused. I have been caught couple of times. Even if you send money they still move on to the next victim. My first time sending money was to a girl met in Kareoke. After chatting for some time on messenger she asked for rental money as she had list her job. Being new to the country and still learning about the Philipino girls I sent her the rental money. My experience is the girls I have met on PL will at some stage ask to lend money.

But most girls where working or not if they are intimate with you nothing wrong in considering this as gift or pay as you go similar to the mobile plans. Either way as a punter you have to fork out money.

[Wicked Roger]

Very enterprising lady. I'm sure enough mongers would be sending in the cash.

Had some cuties asking for help as house in trouble but when I pointed out their place was in Cebu and further south they stopped chatting to me. But am sure some with no real knowledge of geography as they rarely travel outside their home country will feel sorry for them LOL.

[Engine Driver]

Very enterprising lady. I'm sure enough mongers would be sending in the cash.

[Engine Driver]

Just a newbie question.

If you pay the bar fine. Do you need to pay the girls after?

And how much usually for the tip.

Cause I know you'll be paying 3 k-4 k for the bar fine already. How much for the girl then after the sex deed? Thanks.

Newbies should spend some time reading the forum. All the information is here. If you are still lost, then please take out a subscription, and send a PM to Sxxxx. He will answer all your queries. Very helpful person.