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[Spider56]

Maybe I drive to Zurich next Month to see a big Movietheater in the City.

[Mr Ho]

After my last foray into it (in Florida as well), I'm out of swing for good. Too many old and / or unattractive and / or fat women for my tastes. I want hot, 20 plus year-old, three-holers. And I'm willing to pay to procure exactly what I want. No strip clubs, no swinging, no sugar babies. Pay 4 Play tutes only. And no doubt about it!

But you are saying there were hot woman in her 40's or 50's at the Florida swinger party? But the age limit may put us on hold LOL!

It is too bad, laws forbid FKK setup brothels in many nations, but oddly, even in legal nations for prostitution do not have FKK set up brothel, they just have one of those dodgy dumped place like brothel.

[Sirioja]

If its about optics and fucking Globe wins hands down. No better chance of a fabulous performance from an 8 worldwide than globe. But if you are stuck in the US no better chance for best experience at $400-500 than Seeking.

And I will admit freely I am one of those old guys that misses having a girlfriend snd affection. No globe girl is going to text me daily and see how my day was. Or send me sexy pics and vids just to say Hi. And you can feel the affection (real or paid for I don't really care) at dinner and when she decides to sleep over (no change in pay). So I admit I love the girlfriend part as much as the sex and I am not alone in this.

But doesn't mean I won't hit globe and Sharks when I am over that way!

I will say the BJ is a lot more variable than a Globe girl where they are pros. Most girls I am with on SA are relative amateurs. Id say I got a great BJ 50% of the time and 50%!I had to coach them up. But they are eager learners. U just say babe Id love if u could lick and suck my balls and they will dive right in. Showed several girls harmonica. A couple of my faves give me amazing perfect BJs by date 2 or 3. And swallow. At least half my SA girls swallow. No upcharge. Just cuz it feels right or they like u..

Globe don't have anymore prettiest looks, when had most impressive looks on this Summer at Sharks and on Globe level in bed. Had many girls in Germany who were on top of Globe level. Globe is just a expensive club among many other clubs. When were escorting golden years in Paris, I remember from 2011 to 2016 my Russian nights for 200/300 with diner at restaurant, gift like perfume or Disney toy for child, little mums became so generous for sex after this, for 4/5 hours, could have stayed longer and second round but had to work on next day and often returned on next evening. Unfortunately not anymore same escorts level now in Paris when Amour Russe was killed. But FKK still work, even under covid.

[Steve 9696]

Its majority minority chicks.

See my post in Dating agencies thread.

This is not a random observation; my white rocker neighbor in Hollywood could only pull Black, Latino, Asian SB and he was dropping $10,000's and had a chauffeured Denali, security and memberships at private clubs. Was bankrupt before too; so its roundtrip for him.

I was awaken after he dragged them home at 4 am, two at a time and I would look across from our adjacent 4 story glass lofts: 7's and lots of teasing / romping / running around not spread eagle.

Showed him pics of Globe; he wouldn't believe its real.

If its about optics and fucking Globe wins hands down. No better chance of a fabulous performance from an 8 worldwide than globe. But if you are stuck in the US no better chance for best experience at $400-500 than Seeking.

And I will admit freely I am one of those old guys that misses having a girlfriend snd affection. No globe girl is going to text me daily and see how my day was. Or send me sexy pics and vids just to say Hi. And you can feel the affection (real or paid for I don't really care) at dinner and when she decides to sleep over (no change in pay). So I admit I love the girlfriend part as much as the sex and I am not alone in this.

But doesn't mean I won't hit globe and Sharks when I am over that way!

I will say the BJ is a lot more variable than a Globe girl where they are pros. Most girls I am with on SA are relative amateurs. I’d say I got a great BJ 50% of the time and 50%!I had to coach them up. But they are eager learners. U just say babe I’d love if u could lick and suck my balls and they will dive right in. Showed several girls harmonica. A couple of my faves give me amazing perfect BJs by date 2 or 3. And swallow. At least half my SA girls swallow. No upcharge. Just cuz it feels right or they like u. Bareback and sleepovers happen on a ymmv situation also. It’s just way less transactional and u may get a lot more depending on the “relationship” u develop.

Ps to be fair my rank order of desirability of girls goes Latina, Asian, Black mix, black, white. So I have an unfair advantage with the demographics on SA versus guys after the Nordic types.

[KaveMan]

Trying SA today for the first time and it looks like a hell of a lot of work. And unless you are a generous baller, it might not work. Options in us really suck. Nothing beats the ease of FKKs.

Its majority minority chicks.

See my post in Dating agencies thread.

This is not a random observation; my white rocker neighbor in Hollywood could only pull Black, Latino, Asian SB and he was dropping $10,000's and had a chauffeured Denali, security and memberships at private clubs. Was bankrupt before too; so its roundtrip for him.

I was awaken after he dragged them home at 4 am, two at a time and I would look across from our adjacent 4 story glass lofts: 7's and lots of teasing / romping / running around not spread eagle.

Showed him pics of Globe; he wouldn't believe its real.

[SaratogaX]

Trying SA today for the first time and it looks like a hell of a lot of work. And unless you are a generous baller, it might not work. Options in us really suck. Nothing beats the ease of FKKs.

[The Cane]

If you find an open minded girl a swingers club is an option. Going as a single guy likely sucks unless you are pretty hot. Going with a date could be hot. Going in Florida with my regular SB there in a few weeks. Will report Out in the Seeking thread.

After my last foray into it (in Florida as well), I'm out of swing for good. Too many old and / or unattractive and / or fat women for my tastes. I want hot, 20 plus year-old, three-holers. And I'm willing to pay to procure exactly what I want. No strip clubs, no swinging, no sugar babies. Pay 4 Play tutes only. And no doubt about it!

[Sirioja]

Only game in town in USA is Seeking Arrangement there is a thread on it under Dating Agencies.

It is a crap load of work to separate the good girls from the scams and it will set you back 400-500 a meeting (not per hour). How long the date lasts is up to you both but mine typically are about 4 hours including dinner on the short side. And about half of my girls slept over for a longer date. Also getting a fair amount of bareback on SA. Really it is the only way to fly in the US.

If you find an open minded girl a swingers club is an option. Going as a single guy likely sucks unless you are pretty hot. Going with a date could be hot. Going in Florida with my regular SB there in a few weeks. Will report Out in the Seeking thread.

400/500 USD for 4 hours, if the girl is not too fat and silicon like many in US, is much less expensive than Globe and compete with Germany.

[Steve 9696]

In lieu of the terrible lineups at Globe & Ingo's sudden blindness, can USA members recommend verified escort services in major USA Cities?

We really need countermeasures in USA.

Might even consider swingers clubs.

Only game in town in USA is Seeking Arrangement — there is a thread on it under Dating Agencies.

It is a crap load of work to separate the good girls from the scams and it will set you back 400-500 a meeting (not per hour). How long the date lasts is up to you both but mine typically are about 4 hours including dinner on the short side. And about half of my girls slept over for a longer date. Also getting a fair amount of bareback on SA. Really it is the only way to fly in the US.

If you find an open minded girl a swingers club is an option. Going as a single guy likely sucks unless you are pretty hot. Going with a date could be hot. Going in Florida with my regular SB there in a few weeks. Will report Out in the Seeking thread.

[KaveMan]

In lieu of the terrible lineups at Globe & Ingo's sudden blindness, can USA members recommend verified escort services in major USA Cities?

We really need countermeasures in USA.

Might even consider swingers clubs.

[Sirioja]

Does anyone have any experience with the Imperium escorts (https://www.imperium-escort.com/en/)? Why don't they have ladies listed on the website?

I remember Andrea and Angela as two girls listed there at one point.

Thanks.

Andrea.

Aren't they Imperium clubs girls going for escorting? Heard about Bella, was told by desk for Sofia.

[The Cane]

No luck for us here in the states. The list will be reviewed every few weeks so I'll cling on hope. The reality is that the numbers probably won't go down meaningfully. Do they start considering other factors? Doubtful but who the fuck knows. This whole thing has been one massive cluster fuck of incompetence and idiocy. Far more here than anywhere else.

And that all starts at the very top of government!

[SaratogaX]

I think they'll succumb and allow us citizens in even though the article says otherwise.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/23/w...ravel-ban.html

No luck for us here in the states. The list will be reviewed every few weeks so I'll cling on hope. The reality is that the numbers probably won't go down meaningfully. Do they start considering other factors? Doubtful but who the fuck knows. This whole thing has been one massive cluster fuck of incompetence and idiocy. Far more here than anywhere else.

[SaratogaX]

I think they'll succumb and allow us citizens in even though the article says otherwise.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/23/w...ravel-ban.html