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Originally Posted by SeaBeeJoe
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Vacations with prostitutes is cool and all I have a few short time trips to Rosarito and Ensenada with a few cuties. I also enjoyed hunting in the clubs, yes sometimes it didn't turn out great but most of the time I got to bust a nut so it was still fun. In reflection I just hate fake relationships, I think in the future I will just fuck them in the clubs and switch up the girls.
I know I just wrote I took a girl to dinner and a motel but I am fully aware she is a hooker and I am her John.
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Originally Posted by KoolBeans
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I'm not sure who you're referencing, but every trip I've taken a bar girl have been great. In Thailand and Mexico, they have made the trip for me and have a genuine connection, rather than trying to hunt every night to figure out if you're going to get a bad experience or possibly robbed. I guess that is why the "hobby" is very YMMV. You can probably see the signs before taking them on these vacations. A suggestion would be to take them on short local trips before paying for the extended stays.
Vacations with prostitutes is cool and all I have a few short time trips to Rosarito and Ensenada with a few cuties. I also enjoyed hunting in the clubs, yes sometimes it didn't turn out great but most of the time I got to bust a nut so it was still fun. In reflection I just hate fake relationships, I think in the future I will just fuck them in the clubs and switch up the girls.
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Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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CS,
I am with Kool Beans on this one. Every one I have taken has enjoyed the zip lines, jungles, snorkeling ETC. One gal told me that my taking her from Colombia to Cancun was "life changing" and while the gals would on occasion pile on the goodies when we went to Walmart for groceries, there were no shopping trips. I have taken like 8 women to Cancun and have never had what you describe happen. What I have seen is not materialism but women starved for fun.
If we did get fancy meals, it was my choice. They were happy with Uber Eats and simple taco joints.
I am sure there are women who meet your criteria but I think they can be easily weeded out. For the most part, if a woman is considerate in the bedroom (and wants to please you), she is probably going to be considerate outside of it too.
Agreed. I've traveled with women in Mexico, and all over SEA. Never, ever, have I had that problem. But, to be fair, you and I have actually done it. Some guys just like to make up shit.
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Originally Posted by KoolBeans
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Some days she is happy with cooking and cleaning and other days she doesn't want to do taco shops, but nice restaurants. Not sure what to make of it, but time will tell. Also haven't been hit up for any family expenses yet. When she talks about her family's house renovations, she said it isn't my problem, but in a roundabout way it is my problem as she doesn't work and is helping to pay for it. I wish the culture was more direct when they talk about issues. It seems she talks about something and then not sure if I should "help" or just nod and go about my day.
Everyone knows what machismo is, but I just learned of the female equivalent a few months ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianismo.
Therapists Rosa Maria Gil and Carmen Inoa Vasquez, present the beliefs they observed many of their patients holding as intrinsic to marianismo: "Don't forget the place of the woman; don't give up your traditions; don't be an old maid, independent, or have your own opinions; don't put your needs first; don't wish anything but to be a housewife; don't forget sex is to make babies, not pleasure; don't be unhappy with your man, no matter what he does to you; don't ask for help outside of your husband; don't discuss your personal problems outside the house; and don't change.
One of the differences between Colombian and Mexican women is what I call the wall, and it is like if they let you in, then they cannot complain about you any longer, so they are very hesitant to commit. I have seen a ton of Mexican women with horrific anxiety problems because they internalize so much. I think Colombian women are a little more liberal in their complaining about men. Still it is miles better than the USA where men are at fault for everything.
I guess I should mention this as well "While men are expected to provide financial resources, protection, and leadership, women are told to provide emotionally and physically in part by raising children and doing domestic work within their homes."
KB, that is why I said for you to let her direct any help you give out. She may tell you giving money to Cousin Jose is a bad idea but giving it to Cousin Jesus would be nice. It also would empower her. Unlike Western cultures, your giving money to her family if things get more serious is expected.
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Originally Posted by KoolBeans
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Thanks for the solid advice! I actually paid for her sister's flight to come with mother and brother and pick them up tonight. We will see how everything transpires. She was going to stay a week in Sinaloa for a family member's bday, but is coming back with family to Tijuana. Not sure if it is just to meet me or other family members, but interesting she is so anxious for me to meet family.
If she's introducing you to her mother, it's because she likes you. She's not going to put up with the unholy mountain of pestering her mom is going to give her about getting married and squeezing out a couple of kids, if she wasn't into you.
Originally Posted by KoolBeans
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Some days she is happy with cooking and cleaning and other days she doesn't want to do taco shops, but nice restaurants. Not sure what to make of it, but time will tell. Also haven't been hit up for any family expenses yet. When she talks about her family's house renovations, she said it isn't my problem, but in a roundabout way it is my problem as she doesn't work and is helping to pay for it. I wish the culture was more direct when they talk about issues. It seems she talks about something and then not sure if I should "help" or just nod and go about my day.
Don't go overboard with the not going out or eating at nice restaurants. If you like her, it's great to go out and do nice things- just make sure that it's not an always thing. If you're doing the nice restaurant as part of a mix of taco stand, home cooking and take-out, that's great. You need to worry when she gets over cooking and cleaning herself, and just wants to eat out.
My guess is that she has quite a bit of money saved up somewhere. Fixing your parent's house is usually something you budget for. Also, something to remember, is that she was essentially earning in Dollars at the bar, and labor is super cheap in Mexico. Trust me, she's not spending that much money fixing their house when you figure it in Dollars, especially relative to what we would pay here.
You're paying for the ultimate GFE, so it's always helpful to think about the costs that way, but if I had to guess, this girl actually likes you. As long as you enjoy spending time with her, none of this nickel and dime stuff stuff is an issue- just make sure it doesn't become Dollar-Five-Dollar stuff. It becomes an issue when you stop enjoying your time with her, or her attitude and / or affection towards you changes. When that happens, it's time to just call it a day and move on.
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Originally Posted by ClownDays
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If you can tell she's enjoying sex with you, when you can tell differently, it's a good sign something's off. If her sexual appetite goes away or she becomes semi-mechanical that's a big one. Catching her working again would be another, or even having a second cell phone.
If you're living together, under a somewhat traditional relationship, you are expected to cover the household expenses and meals out and stuff like that. Money to help the family on the onece in a blue moon occasion is not that big of a deal, but if someone in the family is always hitting you guys up for money, and she isn't off put by it, then there's something wrong there. Even in Mexico, people get tired of lazy people who become leaches, or can't ever solve money problems. If her family is out of state, you may not get hit up for this, but Latinos usually use something called a "Tanda" to raise a ton of money for a particular cause. They're like a big crowdfunded short term 0 interest loan. If you need $2000, you get 19 other people to chip in $100 every week for 20 weeks. You get the first $2000, and over the next 19 weeks, everyone else gets paid back one at a time. These are generally safe, and if it's for family, just require that you be early on the payback schedule- some people who use this as a way to save money, actually prefer to be near the end, so asking to be early is not a particularly rude.
Your real test will probably be after Paris. I'd personally, dial down the money you're spending on going out and stuff like that. If you're going out to restaurants, try going to taco trucks or cenadurias (little pop-up restaurants out of people's garages). Even if you can easily afford it and it's part of your personal self-care, dial down the going out and overall money spending, and see what kind of arguments pop up. If none pop up, she's probably the real deal. If you get emotional arguments, also a good sign that she thinks you're losing affection for her. If you get money arguments, she's scared the gravy train is running out.
Thanks for the solid advice! I actually paid for her sister's flight to come with mother and brother and pick them up tonight. We will see how everything transpires. She was going to stay a week in Sinaloa for a family member's bday, but is coming back with family to Tijuana. Not sure if it is just to meet me or other family members, but interesting she is so anxious for me to meet family. It is like I setup a second household in Mexico. I guess I could say I asked for it when I suggested that we should move in together.
Some days she is happy with cooking and cleaning and other days she doesn't want to do taco shops, but nice restaurants. Not sure what to make of it, but time will tell. Also haven't been hit up for any family expenses yet. When she talks about her family's house renovations, she said it isn't my problem, but in a roundabout way it is my problem as she doesn't work and is helping to pay for it. I wish the culture was more direct when they talk about issues. It seems she talks about something and then not sure if I should "help" or just nod and go about my day.
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Romancing old, ugly escorts
For advise, ask the expert loser specializing in wining, dining, romancing old, ugly escorts with dead-fish pussies, one even looks like a squirrel.
Cannot fail because these old, ugly escorts are hopeless, have no other options but to settle for a stupid, envious loser.
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Originally Posted by CaptainSolo
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The girls would not likely enjoy zip line riding, jungle trekking, diving, snorkeling, playing with sharks and manta rays, eating, drinking, partying with locals, wandering working, selling and living places looking to understand the essence of locals' life ect. All they want are shopping for stupid shit which you have to pay for and carry home, fancy meals, shows and parties where they can flash their wealth and alleged sex appeals to the crowd to feel good about their declining status.
CS,
I am with Kool Beans on this one. Every one I have taken has enjoyed the zip lines, jungles, snorkeling ETC. One gal told me that my taking her from Colombia to Cancun was "life changing" and while the gals would on occasion pile on the goodies when we went to Walmart for groceries, there were no shopping trips. I have taken like 8 women to Cancun and have never had what you describe happen. What I have seen is not materialism but women starved for fun.
If we did get fancy meals, it was my choice. They were happy with Uber Eats and simple taco joints.
I am sure there are women who meet your criteria but I think they can be easily weeded out. For the most part, if a woman is considerate in the bedroom (and wants to please you), she is probably going to be considerate outside of it too.
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Originally Posted by KoolBeans
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I'm not sure who you're referencing, but every trip I've taken a bar girl have been great. In Thailand and Mexico, they have made the trip for me and have a genuine connection, rather than trying to hunt every night to figure out if you're going to get a bad experience or possibly robbed. I guess that is why the "hobby" is very YMMV. You can probably see the signs before taking them on these vacations. A suggestion would be to take them on short local trips before paying for the extended stays.
None of that garbage should be taken seriously. It's all self-described fantasies for entertainment purposes. If you need advice, ask somebody who has actually done whatever it is you're wondering about. Not serial fantabulists.
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Originally Posted by KoolBeans
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I'd be interested in what the red flags are before they happen. She seems genuine and when I was driving back with her and her male cousin from her aunts house, she received texts from some dude that kept popping up on the Apple CarPlay. I asked her what time it was in Sinaloa and she said 2 am. She then had her male cousin read the WhatsApp text messages and he said the conversation is lame and something to do with slang "w" in texts meaning buddy. He said his cousin is a good person and I need to have confidence in the relationship. If only he knew the "whole" story of how we really met. Nothing for me to complain about and she treats me good so hope I can keep enjoying the ride.
If you can tell she's enjoying sex with you, when you can tell differently, it's a good sign something's off. If her sexual appetite goes away or she becomes semi-mechanical that's a big one. Catching her working again would be another, or even having a second cell phone.
If you're living together, under a somewhat traditional relationship, you are expected to cover the household expenses and meals out and stuff like that. Money to help the family on the onece in a blue moon occasion is not that big of a deal, but if someone in the family is always hitting you guys up for money, and she isn't off put by it, then there's something wrong there. Even in Mexico, people get tired of lazy people who become leaches, or can't ever solve money problems. If her family is out of state, you may not get hit up for this, but Latinos usually use something called a "Tanda" to raise a ton of money for a particular cause. They're like a big crowdfunded short term 0 interest loan. If you need $2000, you get 19 other people to chip in $100 every week for 20 weeks. You get the first $2000, and over the next 19 weeks, everyone else gets paid back one at a time. These are generally safe, and if it's for family, just require that you be early on the payback schedule- some people who use this as a way to save money, actually prefer to be near the end, so asking to be early is not a particularly rude.
Your real test will probably be after Paris. I'd personally, dial down the money you're spending on going out and stuff like that. If you're going out to restaurants, try going to taco trucks or cenadurias (little pop-up restaurants out of people's garages). Even if you can easily afford it and it's part of your personal self-care, dial down the going out and overall money spending, and see what kind of arguments pop up. If none pop up, she's probably the real deal. If you get emotional arguments, also a good sign that she thinks you're losing affection for her. If you get money arguments, she's scared the gravy train is running out.
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Originally Posted by ClownDays
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This is actually a really good sign. She may buy some fancy stuff for herself, but sending money home to make sure her parent's house the fixed up is a very good sign that she has a solid upbringing. Don't sweat the small stuff and enjoy the ride. Until you get hit with some of the big glaring red flags, it actually sounds like this one is a keeper.
I'd be interested in what the red flags are before they happen. She seems genuine and when I was driving back with her and her male cousin from her aunts house, she received texts from some dude that kept popping up on the Apple CarPlay. I asked her what time it was in Sinaloa and she said 2 am. She then had her male cousin read the WhatsApp text messages and he said the conversation is lame and something to do with slang "w" in texts meaning buddy. He said his cousin is a good person and I need to have confidence in the relationship. If only he knew the "whole" story of how we really met. Nothing for me to complain about and she treats me good so hope I can keep enjoying the ride.
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Hobby is very YMMV
Originally Posted by CaptainSolo
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It's very hard to find girls who enjoy the same things you do on travels, not sports, culture, food, arts, shows, adventure, mixing, partying having funs with locals, and never, ever looking or glancing at hot local girls on the roads hehe. The girls would not likely enjoy zip line riding, jungle trekking, diving, snorkeling, playing with sharks and manta rays, eating, drinking, partying with locals, wandering working, selling and living places looking to understand the essence of locals' life ect. All they want are shopping for stupid shit which you have to pay for and carry home, fancy meals, shows and parties where they can flash their wealth and alleged sex appeals to the crowd to feel good about their declining status.
A lot of these GFs are not educated or worldly. When they are exposed to exotic places, peoples and cultures, they feel fear and tend to act hostile, some can turn into real jealous, ugly and demanding biitches on trips, destroying any fun, joys, happiness, wasting precious vacation time and money, lots of times these trips cause couples to break up.
It's a loose loose situation and a double loss for guys who spend time and money to arrange the trip. Guys take girls to vacations, probably hoping to get the satisfaction of showing them new places, novel experiences, perhaps also having sex with them on the road. Sadly for most guys, they would get no satisfaction or sex, just lots of fuking headaches, heavy expense, big bills and likely damages to their relationships. I got lots of heartache and headaches with a few girls on expensive vacations. A few other close friends got reamed in the same deals.
I prefer to travel alone or with a few guys who are into bagging and screwing girls, pros or non pros, on the road. I met some very nice, fun, beautiful girls and women travelers who want to enjoy romances and hot sex on trips. I only travel to locations where I have good chances of bagging hot girls every day; no more travels purely for sight seeing, architectural, cultural bullshit. Let the women travel with their stupid, sexless friends on their onw dimes so they can shop until they drop and carry their own shiit home.
Already booked airfares leaving next week for a couple countries in Central America where hot, sexy girls are waiting hehe. Coincidentally a few bros will also be going to the same countries. Will hook up with them with local bros and have a really fun, relaxing, sexy vacation this time after 18 months CoVid shutdown.
Any bro going to Central America, Colombia, last 2 weeks of November through first 2 weeks of Dec, let meet up and have fun.
I'm not sure who you're referencing, but every trip I've taken a bar girl have been great. In Thailand and Mexico, they have made the trip for me and have a genuine connection, rather than trying to hunt every night to figure out if you're going to get a bad experience or possibly robbed. I guess that is why the "hobby" is very YMMV. You can probably see the signs before taking them on these vacations. A suggestion would be to take them on short local trips before paying for the extended stays.
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Mongering trips with the bros
It's very hard to find girls who enjoy the same things you do on travels, not sports, culture, food, arts, shows, adventure, mixing, partying having funs with locals, and never, ever looking or glancing at hot local girls on the roads hehe. The girls would not likely enjoy zip line riding, jungle trekking, diving, snorkeling, playing with sharks and manta rays, eating, drinking, partying with locals, wandering working, selling and living places looking to understand the essence of locals' life ect. All they want are shopping for stupid shit which you have to pay for and carry home, fancy meals, shows and parties where they can flash their wealth and alleged sex appeals to the crowd to feel good about their declining status.
A lot of these GFs are not educated or worldly. When they are exposed to exotic places, peoples and cultures, they feel fear and tend to act hostile, some can turn into real jealous, ugly and demanding biitches on trips, destroying any fun, joys, happiness, wasting precious vacation time and money, lots of times these trips cause couples to break up.
It's a loose loose situation and a double loss for guys who spend time and money to arrange the trip. Guys take girls to vacations, probably hoping to get the satisfaction of showing them new places, novel experiences, perhaps also having sex with them on the road. Sadly for most guys, they would get no satisfaction or sex, just lots of fuking headaches, heavy expense, big bills and likely damages to their relationships. I got lots of heartache and headaches with a few girls on expensive vacations. A few other close friends got reamed in the same deals.
I prefer to travel alone or with a few guys who are into bagging and screwing girls, pros or non pros, on the road. I met some very nice, fun, beautiful girls and women travelers who want to enjoy romances and hot sex on trips. I only travel to locations where I have good chances of bagging hot girls every day; no more travels purely for sight seeing, architectural, cultural bullshit. Let the women travel with their stupid, sexless friends on their onw dimes so they can shop until they drop and carry their own shiit home.
Already booked airfares leaving next week for a couple countries in Central America where hot, sexy girls are waiting hehe. Coincidentally a few bros will also be going to the same countries. Will hook up with them with local bros and have a really fun, relaxing, sexy vacation this time after 18 months CoVid shutdown.
Any bro going to Central America, Colombia, last 2 weeks of November through first 2 weeks of Dec, let meet up and have fun.
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Originally Posted by KoolBeans
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Thanks for the advice. Family haven't hit me up, but she shows me the family house and it is in rough shape. She is helping them tile their floor, get new doors for rooms, and possibly a kitchen renovation since it is old and tiny. I know I could help bank roll it all, but don't want to commit myself to these projects just yet. I will see how things go after the New Years Paris trip. Thanks to everyone for confirming that she seems like a good typical Mexican woman. I tend to push people too much and like you stated she should have walked numerous times. I've got to keep my insecurities under control.
This is actually a really good sign. She may buy some fancy stuff for herself, but sending money home to make sure her parent's house the fixed up is a very good sign that she has a solid upbringing. Don't sweat the small stuff and enjoy the ride. Until you get hit with some of the big glaring red flags, it actually sounds like this one is a keeper.
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Hustlers
Originally Posted by BigMagick
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Bigger hustlers than the putas in zona norte? Lmao.
No Magick Mike, there is not a better hustler then an old seasoned HK girl. No innocents' there LOLOLOL.
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