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  1. #1732

    Harsh but the truth

    KB you seem like a good guy and I don't want to see you or any other men go through the hell that is a bad relationship. I've seen what its done to me or other guys. Your situation is relatable. We are both mongers and gambling addicts, workaholics and honestly we are both simps. The reason I broke it off with the last bar girl was because I felt that stupid simp part of myself coming out and I ghosted her to save myself. Sure a good move for self preservation but maybe I missed out on a great girl. I recently met another bar girl and we have some dates planned. The chemistry and sex with this one is insane, I haven't experienced anything like this since my last civvie girlfriend. Only this time I'm going in it with a clear head. Maybe its all a game but time will tell. She's a damn good actress if its all fake though. Point is don't throw away what could potentially be a great thing but just be realistic with what it is. You also have to stop thinking in this messed up modern dating way where everything is a transaction. The last time you "fell in love" were you thinking like this or did you just give yourself freely? Again realistically all human relationships are based on value exchange. As we get older it does become more about money than just someone attractive and fun. I got into this lifestyle by a friend in america who dates strippers. He's actually stopped mongering and has been dating one for years now. This guy isn't anything special but what I realized is he was different from the other mongers and you are too if she's choosing to be with you. Think of the type of guy who goes to the Zona. They are young guys, guys already married, old men, low level dudes who couldn't even get a fat girl in america, rich guys who will just pump and dump her. For her to be with you this long you are obviously a better choice, probably even better than local mexicanos which guys on here say maybe she might still be dating but remember those mexicans will never have the power an american has. We also arent into machismo which they seem to like. Obviously the way you are handling this relationship isn't going the best. If you want this to work out you are going to have to change your mentality.

  2. #1731
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    I see guys here lining up against this relationship, wanting to say they are right if / when the breakup happens, and saying "I told you so", but the truth is he is on a ride here few guys know. How many guys here really have had a 9 or 10 fall for them? They are so damned cynical and afraid of being hurt that they do not believe it can happen.
    The only "ride" he is on is the one where the puta and her family separates him from his cash. You are a major simp if you think these 19-22 year olds develop long lasting feelings for fat middle aged gringos trawling the Tijuana alleys and night clubs.

    You are just a source of cash for them, that's it. If you want a real relationship, try developing one that's not predicated with you paying for sex or supplying a steady source of easy income for them and their aunties. Talk to me when you do.

  3. #1730
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    DF, he is going to ride out no matter what anyone here says. Yeah, it is probably not going to work but most relationships do not work out. The key is to stick the landing and not be angry about it not working out but be grateful for the experience. If I had not gone through the pain of my engagement, I would have missed out on my dream girl.

    I see guys here lining up against this relationship, wanting to say they are right if / when the breakup happens, and saying "I told you so", but the truth is he is on a ride here few guys know. How many guys here really have had a 9 or 10 fall for them? They are so damned cynical and afraid of being hurt that they do not believe it can happen.
    I'm still going to ride this train until the wheels fall off. I'll share my experience since it is good to get insight to what others may have experienced or thinking. It is still unreal when I wake up next to her every morning and also when she is cooking in her thong and booty shorts. We were watching Game of Thrones and she started to give me a BJ which was a surprise and another time she dressed up and gave me a dance in her lingerie. She knows how to spice things up and I wonder if my transparency and honesty are what draws her to me, but who really knows?

    During a video chat yesterday her dad showed me his bayonet he got recently and I told him I have green one from Hungary. The previous boyfriends she had that met her family were Mexican boyfriends and the abortion was from first boyfriend that raped her and got her pregnant. The abortion caused complications and she had to have one ovary removed. She missed the cutoff for school transfer and if can't transfer to private university then try again after the 6 month semester if the relationship lasts that long. I am working on my insecurities and jealousy.

  4. #1729
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackThought  [View Original Post]
    Investing in a relationship with a puta is like investing in penny stocks over blue chips. Pump and dump then move onto the next.
    And investing in blue chips is what in your analogy? It cannot be hos. They are a cost. So what then? Marriage? That was the biggest financial and emotional loss of my life. For every Coke stock, there has been a Kodak.

    I was and have been a contrarian and made 20 X my money in a penny stock and retired for 10 years. Maybe you need to learn how to invest in penny stocks instead of making blanket statements about them and blue chips.

    Do not get me wrong. If I had to bet, I would bet that KB and his gal do not work out, but that is not just what I was talking about. People could say I invested and lost in my ex-fiancé, and they would be right if you look at things just financially but the investment yielded something of even greater value, experience. That is something KB will have that most of you will not.

    Right now, KB is having sex at a higher pleasure level and emotional level than most of you guys ever will. Even if it does not work out, he knows something you guys do not. What he has, a young hot thing totally in love with him, is possible. Most of you are betting against him while you all are sitting on the sidelines afraid to go for better. He knows that he can get better than just hos for cash, and he will strive for it again, and my bet is that at some point it will succeed maybe not this time, but the next time or after that.

    And with investing, I did not just walk in and get a 20 bagger. I lost my ass twice and learned from the experience.

  5. #1728
    Quote Originally Posted by DramaFree11  [View Original Post]
    Elvis you are correct in many of your points, but is time for these 2 to break up and deal with there jealousy and other issues.
    DF, he is going to ride out no matter what anyone here says. Yeah, it is probably not going to work but most relationships do not work out. The key is to stick the landing and not be angry about it not working out but be grateful for the experience. If I had not gone through the pain of my engagement, I would have missed out on my dream girl.

    I see guys here lining up against this relationship, wanting to say they are right if / when the breakup happens, and saying "I told you so", but the truth is he is on a ride here few guys know. How many guys here really have had a 9 or 10 fall for them? They are so damned cynical and afraid of being hurt that they do not believe it can happen.

  6. #1727

    Boyfriend

    Quote Originally Posted by KoolBeans  [View Original Post]
    I do have my suspicions regarding the aunt, but she tells me that her aunt is the one that said to do what makes her happy. Also that she should pursue the relationship even though her 10 year marriage ended. She did have previous relationships back home and they involved the boyfriend cheating on her and she found out through the guys mother. She does want to get a visa so she can go on a cruise to Alaska with me later next year and even hinted at trying to start a nail and hair business.

    The boyfriend back home would have to be a secret from the family as they seem to like me. I'm sure they would let me know if she was running game on me, especially the mother. Supposedly only 3 other guys have met her family. I work remotely and can pretty much set my schedule so we spend our times cooking, watching movies, going to movies, restaurants, etc. I'd definitely consider a prenup as the age gap marriages have high failure rate statistically. She did mention kids, but maybe in 5-8 years and I told her it isn't in my near term plans.

    Like you mentioned, she did discuss the not meeting my family and friends last week and I'm not quite sure I want them to meet her just yet as the relationship has been strange to say the least. She has been great minus the trying to setup dates behind my back. I have my own family I want to spend Christmas with and I told her New Years is the best I can do. She mentioned her cousins asked if I was going to visit for Christmas and I told her I'll try to see her hometown next year. Also don't feel bad discussing this with other bros on the board as my friends are married and not sure they would understand this situation or probably tell me I'm crazy hehe.
    Well if the family is poor and believes that you are the one providing for them of course they are going to like you over some boyfriend that does nothing for them. So she could be hiding him from them but who knows. So the family has met other guys. We're they previous clients like you as well? At her age it seems like she doesn't have long lasting relationships for some reason. Not sure what she told you happened with these previous relationships and why they ended. Also I'm another post you mentioned her getting an abortion which you never mentioned before. I'm not sure I believe that story but who knows.

    I understand you having your own family but I figured they are older know and not the age to believe in Santa and no need for you to be around if you have moved on. I do understand the guilt you probably feel for not being with them to be with a former working girl but at some point you will have to decide who's more important to you. No matter what you do one will be jealous of the other. This has been my biggest challenge since being single again and not letting anyone come between me and that part of my life.

    Glad you don't feel bad discussing it here especially with all the negativity that gets thrown at you.

  7. #1726
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackThought  [View Original Post]
    Investing in a relationship with a puta is like investing in penny stocks over blue chips. Pump and dump then move onto the next.
    This truth is something simps will never understand.

  8. #1725
    Quote Originally Posted by KoolBeans  [View Original Post]
    The boyfriend back home would have to be a secret from the family as they seem to like me. I'm sure they would let me know if she was running game on me, especially the mother.
    I am sure she is loyal to you and not the beggar she's been feeding for decades.

  9. #1724
    Quote Originally Posted by KoolBeans  [View Original Post]
    I feel you and understand the advice. I'm going to try to make it work. If it fails, then at least I tried and the worst that can happen is that it turned me off from mongering. I've come to the realization there are some great people in this world that you can connect with, just have to get time to meet them.
    This hobby is fun and expensive, if she can turn you off from mongering, I guess you'll save a lot of money in the long term.

    I avoid chatting with working girls on WhatsApp and keep the arrangements strictly transactional to avoid situations like yours. Sometimes the chemistry is so strong it begins putting fantasies into your head. It's happened to me on more than one occasion, but I've been able to snap out of it. It's always been the Latinas for me, in Germany the girls are rather cold and don't really provide GFE, so never had any issue there.

  10. #1723
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    I know how you are. You have the money but you do not want to feel cheated. Again, that is a john mentality. If she is your woman, you want her to feel loved and cared for. All the guys calling you a sucker do not get it. When you spend money on the right woman, it is really not a cost but an investment that will pay you much more back.
    Investing in a relationship with a puta is like investing in penny stocks over blue chips. Pump and dump then move onto the next.

  11. #1722
    Estado de México, the state of Mexico, surrounds the city of Mexico. It is Wild West on steroids terrain. Once we had a güero (what American retards call gringos), who was mad on pussy because he had never had any before meeting a few ladies who'd ridden all of Mexico. We had to saddle up our horses, keep our sawn offs at the ready and go in and extricate him. There are places in the City of Mexico where even the toughest natives do not venture; it is just too fucking dangerous, like right up there with the places PJ O'Rourke wrote about in Holidays in Hell. Edomex is much much worse. These are seriously dangerous places where the Crips and the Bloods would not last seconds.

    These are the spawning grounds of Tijuana hookers, the sewer pits life began for them and fed their veins.

    The troll in chief bangs on about some hooker he fell in love with and wonders why la puta is not La Virgen de Guadalupe. His only reference is some Soi 6 Pattaya hooker who opened her legs for him some time ago. The Virgin of Guadalupe is ensconced in a cathedral. You are whisked by her, before getting on with your life and leaving the Virgin to forget you and your pathetic donation. The Tijuana virgins (ha ha) are a different breed. They too have their Pretty Woman dreams, that some loser will rescue them from their high paying jobs and get them a visa to güero land and a minimum wage job working nights in Taco Bells. They spend what little of their money their pimps and relatives do not fleece from them on knock off bags and the other shit hookers buy to raise their esteem. Though their dreams remain, they are just that, dreams, the same sort of dreams all other losers have.

  12. #1721
    Quote Originally Posted by KoolBeans  [View Original Post]
    I feel you and understand the advice. I'm going to try to make it work. If it fails, then at least I tried and the worst that can happen is that it turned me off from mongering. I've come to the realization there are some great people in this world that you can connect with, just have to get time to meet them.
    LOL, you just don't listen. There is a classic lyric from Dr. Dre "you can't make a hoe a housewife." As true now as it is ever. And yet there are endless suckers who try.

  13. #1720
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackThought  [View Original Post]
    I highly doubt a chica making $500/ night at HK club would be fine with $600/ month, that's absurd. I agree with drama, $500/ night *260 work days = $130 k. Why would she settle with a man twice her age for $7,200/ year. Based on what I've seen at the club, most guys are not taking the girls for arriba.
    When I did bring up that the relationship is about the money, then she mentioned that she would still be working if that were the case and not living with me. She only worked 4 days a week since she has school. She seems to have clientele that like TLN, trips, etc. I told her she makes more than me since my income is taxed and hers is tax free. Who knows, maybe if this doesn't work out, then she'll be back working towards her goals.

  14. #1719
    Quote Originally Posted by BigMagick  [View Original Post]
    The writings on the wall for you KB. I have told you this before but you should break up with this girl. Everyone else I'm sure agrees. At this point I don't think you are going to listen to reason. If any relationship caused me this much drama I would have walked away, especially one that's a few months old. Cut your losses and move on. A blind man could see this is a bad situation. I was really rooting for you too but just being purely objective here. Theres new girls at the bars everyday. I'm sure you can find one that doesn't cause this much headache, or better yet a non working girl. If you're posting this for us to give you advice guidance than this is it. Break it off. This relationship is bad for your health and wallet. But I don't think you are going to listen.
    I feel you and understand the advice. I'm going to try to make it work. If it fails, then at least I tried and the worst that can happen is that it turned me off from mongering. I've come to the realization there are some great people in this world that you can connect with, just have to get time to meet them.

  15. #1718
    Quote Originally Posted by DramaFree11  [View Original Post]
    L. Mudd you have all my contact information, but you leave that out of your reports. I am waiting for you in M. City. You keep spreading your crazy lies. You never say anything nice about anybody, you just complain, you are very rarely with a girl. Hopefully one day Admin will suspended you.
    Suspend me for what? That I post about my Tijuana trips and photos that I myself took. When was your last trip to Tijuana? Post a link to that trip. And I'll say again that I've forgotten more about CDMX than you know, but I'll stop talking about it because this isn't a CDMX thread. It's a Tijuana thread you imbecile.

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