Stupid Shit in Tijuana

[Scbb1]

To paraphrase your argument. So you believe most normal and decent people would find these spectacles of (boxing, Thai kickboxing, UFC, Kung Fu. . .) just plain gross. You know that (humans) are conscious creatures and causing them unnecessary pain and suffering is wrong. It's just bad karma. . .

So would your opinion be that boxing is OK or does the same logic you used for rooster fighting apply? Spectators are torturing (fill in the blank. Roosters, bulls, boxers. By watching them fight? I haven't seen a rooster fight yet, but my guess is that the roosters want to fight. If they didn't they would run and refuse to fight. From what I saw on the farm, most chickens are very brutal to each other. Chickens will attack and peck each other which is why farms often clip their beaks. If roosters want to fight, why shouldn't people watch? I see no problems with this. Did you grow up on a farm, or did you attend a government school and live in an apartment? Just curious.

I am an amateur boxer, I made a conscious choice to do this. I also have to go through an extensive physical and be checked by fight doctors. There is also a referee in the ring to stop the fight in case I get really hurt and can't defend myself. None of this applies to animals who are forced to fight. It is animal cruelty and against the law in the USA.

[WombatEd2]

you believe most normal and decent people would find these spectacles of (boxing, Thai kickboxing, UFC, Kung Fu. . .) just plain gross.

Martial artists are consenting adult humans; bulls, dogs, and roosters are not. (D'oh!)

[Ctytek]

Your analogy comparing animals "fight-to-death" spectacles with human sports like boxing / UFC is even worse than the previous one with farming. If you can't understand the difference yourself. I am not going to bother.

So as I said. If watching helpless animals fight to death floats your boat, have at it. But this will be the last thing I will be doing.

To paraphrase your argument. So you believe most normal and decent people would find these spectacles of (boxing, Thai kickboxing, UFC, Kung Fu. . .) just plain gross. You know that (humans) are conscious creatures and causing them unnecessary pain and suffering is wrong. It's just bad karma. . .

So would your opinion be that boxing is OK or does the same logic you used for rooster fighting apply? Spectators are torturing (fill in the blank. Roosters, bulls, boxers. By watching them fight? I haven't seen a rooster fight yet, but my guess is that the roosters want to fight. If they didn't they would run and refuse to fight. From what I saw on the farm, most chickens are very brutal to each other. Chickens will attack and peck each other which is why farms often clip their beaks. If roosters want to fight, why shouldn't people watch? I see no problems with this. Did you grow up on a farm, or did you attend a government school and live in an apartment? Just curious.

[Travv]

To paraphrase your argument. So you believe most normal and decent people would find these spectacles of (boxing, Thai kickboxing, UFC, Kung Fu. . .) just plain gross. You know that (humans) are conscious creatures and causing them unnecessary pain and suffering is wrong. It's just bad karma. . .

So would your opinion be that boxing is OK or does the same logic you used for rooster fighting apply? Spectators are torturing (fill in the blank. Roosters, bulls, boxers. By watching them fight? I haven't seen a rooster fight yet, but my guess is that the roosters want to fight. If they didn't they would run and refuse to fight. From what I saw on the farm, most chickens are very brutal to each other. Chickens will attack and peck each other which is why farms often clip their beaks. If roosters want to fight, why shouldn't people watch? I see no problems with this. Did you grow up on a farm, or did you attend a government school and live in an apartment? Just curious.

You are seriously going to compare farming and torturing animals for sheer amusement? You know, whatever floats your boat dude. But I believe most normal and decent people would find these spectacles of cock fighting, dog fighting, bull fighting just plain gross. You know that animals are conscious creatures and causing them unnecessary pain and suffering is wrong. It's just bad karma, that's going to catch up to you some day.

[Ctytek]

You are seriously going to compare farming and torturing animals for sheer amusement? You know, whatever floats your boat dude. But I believe most normal and decent people would find these spectacles of cock fighting, dog fighting, bull fighting just plain gross. You know that animals are conscious creatures and causing them unnecessary pain and suffering is wrong. It's just bad karma, that's going to catch up to you some day.

As I pointed out in my first posting, if you have never seen this event, you might want to put it on your bucket list. I think the divide here is between country boys who are used to raising and killing chickens with an axe then plucking the feathers then cutting up the bird by hand for cooking and city slickers who think milk comes from a factory in paper cartons and chicken comes from KFC in paper buckets. If you are a city slicker who drinks soy milk, these events are likely to be bloody and probably more than you can handle. I've seen many a rooster have his head cut off on my family farm in the past en route to the kitchen, so this type of event might be worth watching.

[WombatEd2]

Bearbaiting waa a popular sport in the days of Ben Franklin. Perhaps we should be practicing that, too?

Anybody remember how much fun we used to have in the Colosseum?

[Travv]

As I pointed out in my first posting, if you have never seen this event, you might want to put it on your bucket list. I think the divide here is between country boys who are used to raising and killing chickens with an axe then plucking the feathers then cutting up the bird by hand for cooking and city slickers who think milk comes from a factory in paper cartons and chicken comes from KFC in paper buckets. If you are a city slicker who drinks soy milk, these events are likely to be bloody and probably more than you can handle. I've seen many a rooster have his head cut off on my family farm in the past en route to the kitchen, so this type of event might be worth watching.

Bearbaiting waa a popular sport in the days of Ben Franklin. Perhaps we should be practicing that, too?

[Phordphan]

Bearbaiting waa a popular sport in the days of Ben Franklin. Perhaps we should be practicing that, too?

[SpikeBites1]

Early in my Tijuana mongering training, a girl on the street offered me a great deal. I didn't process that she had walked up to the corner as I wasn't looking, but it was only later that I realized she was a walker. I said I have a room at Cascadas and she agreed and away we went. But the guy at reception stopper her and was shaking his head and asking for her ID. The girl didn't have one and we went back to the other end of the alley to her preferred room. I didn't see the red flag and should have just kept walking without her when she didn't have an ID, as she was horrible. So if you are unsure of the girl- watch how reception handles her- if it's a wave and a "oh gee look at the gringo taking Mary up. " you are good. But if you get questions and they have issues- unless you can handle walkers (I cannot apparently) walk away.

It's my understanding that the "ID" is a health card that is required for all SG's to have. They supposedly need to get tested monthly in order to be able to work on the street or in the bars.

[CumberlandBlue]

Early in my Tijuana mongering training, a girl on the street offered me a great deal. I didn't process that she had walked up to the corner as I wasn't looking, but it was only later that I realized she was a walker. I said I have a room at Cascadas and she agreed and away we went. But the guy at reception stopper her and was shaking his head and asking for her ID. The girl didn't have one and we went back to the other end of the alley to her preferred room. I didn't see the red flag and should have just kept walking without her when she didn't have an ID, as she was horrible. So if you are unsure of the girl- watch how reception handles her- if it's a wave and a "oh gee look at the gringo taking Mary up. " you are good. But if you get questions and they have issues- unless you can handle walkers (I cannot apparently) walk away.

Cascadas won't have a problem with it (excepting any girls who may be banned, or whatever). But the girls themselves may have a problem with Cascadas. Many of them will only go to the hotel where they stand. The ones near Cascadas will usually go there.

[CumberlandBlue]

I've read presidential biographies in order through Grant. (I had to take a break after Grant as his life was truly sad). I cannot recall any discussion in any of them about cock fighting being the American sport.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-cockfighters/

Politifact says false on the claim that the founding fathers were into cock fighting. They may have seen it but in no way hanging out on weekends watching cock fights. Also the claim that Jefferson and Washington hung out on weekends is untrue- Madison lived 20 miles away and they spent time together.

Lincoln: While likely that he went to cock fights, as he lived on the frontier, he preferred spending time reading. This article suggests it is not that strong a case that he enjoyed cock fights:

http://www.abrahamlincolnassociation...etters/5-1.pdf

Lincoln got his name because he was honest. He was co-owner of a general store that the partner caused to go under, and Abe spent years paying back the debts from that store.

Given a choice, if you were a rooster, would you rather go to the deep fryer at KFC or the fight ring with a 50/50 chance?


As the Cecil County cockers sat back, proudly nodding their heads, Bryant proclaimed that American cockfighting goes as far back as the 1600's and that Washington and Jefferson often met at each other's farms for Sunday afternoon cockfights. Andrew Jackson was also an enthusiast and actually held a cockfight or two at the White House when he was president.

And, Bryant declared, forget everything you might have heard about the popular origins of Lincoln's nickname "Honest Abe. " Citing chapter and verse from William H. Herndon's 1896 biography, "Life of Lincoln," Bryant said he was called Honest Abe not because of his persistence in returning a borrowed book, but because of his honesty in arbitrating Illinois cockfights. . . "

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archi...=.06fcba7fe684

Obviously you are opposed to what George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson and Abraham Lincoln liked to do for entertainment, so let those who are interested go watch and make up their own mind.

[Travv]

Given a choice, if you were a rooster, would you rather go to the deep fryer at KFC or the fight ring with a 50/50 chance?

Washington Post article: "In one tome, entitled "The Chicken Book," and subtitled "Being an Inquiry into the Rise and Fall, Use and Abuse, Triumph and Tragedy of Gallus Domesticus," academics Page Smith and Charles Daniel assert that the fighting cock was identified in ancient Greece with Ares, the god of war, and later in Rome with Eros, the god of erotic love. In time the macho bird came to symbolize bravery in battle, individual freedom and sexual virility.

Carried to Europe by the Romans, cockfighting enjoyed its greatest popularity in England and France during the 16th, 17th, and 18th centuries, when it became the diversion of choice for monarchs and commoners alike. It was finally declared illegal in England during a reform movement in 1849, but even today there are occasional tales of Englishmen being nabbed for cockfighting.

The fighting cock accompanied Spanish conquerors to the New World and in several countries today, such as the Philippines, Puerto Rico and other islands of the Caribbean, it is virtually a national pastime.

As the Cecil County cockers sat back, proudly nodding their heads, Bryant proclaimed that American cockfighting goes as far back as the 1600's and that Washington and Jefferson often met at each other's farms for Sunday afternoon cockfights. Andrew Jackson was also an enthusiast and actually held a cockfight or two at the White House when he was president.

And, Bryant declared, forget everything you might have heard about the popular origins of Lincoln's nickname "Honest Abe. " Citing chapter and verse from William H. Herndon's 1896 biography, "Life of Lincoln," Bryant said he was called Honest Abe not because of his persistence in returning a borrowed book, but because of his honesty in arbitrating Illinois cockfights. . . "

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archi...=.06fcba7fe684

Obviously you are opposed to what George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson and Abraham Lincoln liked to do for entertainment, so let those who are interested go watch and make up their own mind.

I'm no bleeding heart, but I've been to a cock fight (at the Palenque in Tijuana) and I found it disgusting and more than a little sadistic. I see no point in tying essentially razor blades to the feet of a chicken and letting them kill each other.

[Phordphan]

Club Gallistico de tijuana, las mejores peleas y los mejores eventos estan aqui!

Rooster Club of Tijuana, the best fights and best events are here!

KM 15.5 carretera a rosarito 5321-3 porticos la Gloria Tijuana, B. C.

Tijuana, Baja California.

https://www.facebook.com/pg/CLUB-GAL...=page_internal

Derby de 5 Gallos Palenque Expo Obregon.

Time Sun Jun 02 2019 at 03:00 pm to 06:00 pm.

Venue Obregon, Sonora, Mexico, Ciudad Obregn, Ciudad Obregon, Mexico.

For those who want to add this to your bucket list.

I'm no bleeding heart, but I've been to a cock fight (at the Palenque in Tijuana) and I found it disgusting and more than a little sadistic. I see no point in tying essentially razor blades to the feet of a chicken and letting them kill each other.

[Travv]

Club Gallistico de tijuana, las mejores peleas y los mejores eventos estan aqui!

Rooster Club of Tijuana, the best fights and best events are here!

KM 15.5 carretera a rosarito 5321-3 porticos la Gloria Tijuana, B. C.

Tijuana, Baja California.

https://www.facebook.com/pg/CLUB-GAL...=page_internal

Derby de 5 Gallos Palenque Expo Obregon.

Time Sun Jun 02 2019 at 03:00 pm to 06:00 pm.

Venue Obregon, Sonora, Mexico, Ciudad Obregón, Ciudad Obregon, Mexico.

For those who want to add this to your bucket list.

[Member #4722]

Can I take any girl from any bar or off the street to my room at Las Cascadas? If not, what hotel in the zona do you recommend for me. I do plan to stay overnight and perhaps get some sleep before noon.

You can bring girls from Hong Kong and Tropical to Cascadas. Most street girls will go there too. Other bars have their own hotels.