Stupid Shit in Tijuana

[Dickus Maximus]

Then I do not know anyone with a real relationship because all the relationships I know of the guy is the provider.
Sorry to burst your bubble, Scott, but I have had the kind of sex you are having and the kind KB is having, and the kind KB has blows yours away.

Absolutely. All my SB relationships have been better than any experience in HK.

[Member #4730]

Then I do not know anyone with a real relationship because all the relationships I know of the guy is the provider.

Sorry to burst your bubble, Scott, but I have had the kind of sex you are having and the kind KB is having, and the kind KB has blows yours away.

And all the guys saying the women just want your money do not get women at all. Men crave money above all else, but women crave safety and security most.

KB's gal was raped by a Mexican guy. My gal breaks into tears when she talks about the father of her daughter. Just thinking about a Latin guy throws these women into PTSD, and there is a lot of abuse and rape and guys getting away with it in the Latin culture. These women want different, and they want safe.

I have heard it all before. The women want hunky, young Latin guys and everyone who thinks differently is a sucker. Sorry, dude, that is not what I saw.

You are spot on that she told me at the beginning she wanted stability, but I always threatened to leave and the first time was on the Cancun trip where I said a "normal" relationship doesn't involve monetary support. If they are not getting the money from you for their obligations, then they will find a way, even if it means being deceptive. I've asked her numerous times if this relationship is what she really wants at this stage in her life or if continuing to make money to pursue the purchase of rental properties and fix her parents home are what she needs to do. She always says she wants to continue the relationship. As you've elaborated, she was unreal chemistry when we met and confirmed her fetish for my type since reading her texts to other people.

She knows I am a violent man, prior service, but those experiences have helped mold me to have more empathy and understanding for people. She likes I can communicate my feelings and follow through with my actions. The way that she takes care of me would be hard to fake as my ex-wife wouldn't cook every meal and clean the house. I am surprised my ex-wife dealt with 20 years of my shit and psychological shit tests I put her through at the beginning of the relationship.

[Member #4730]

Your comment about guys saying these women just want your money and that we don't get women is completely off base when it comes to these working women in Tijuana. Nine of of ten posters here will tell you this, and they have posted numerous stories that illustrate this. Sure, there are a handful of them that do want safety and security over money, but we all know these are few and far between. Now Kool Beans seems like a great guy and I would love to see his relationship with this girl work. However, there are a couple of red flags that he needs to consider. First of all, paying for her rent and other items in exchange for her not working in the bars is an admirable idea. I can't, however, see myself doing this for a girl that is also texting and arranging dates and claims she doesn't go through with them. This while I am supporting her living conditions. Another red flag to me is the piece about her making $500.00 a day working in Hong Kong, yet she is willing to accept the paltry (which it isn't) amount of money KB is giving her monthly. In my personal experience, using the amount of money she was making is an attempt at raising the bar in line with the negotiation the two have entered into where he will support her in lieu of her working. Part of the bargaining chip process. What will probably happen as time goes on is that the money given to her by KB will never be enough, nor will it compare to what she was making, which will lead to needing more. Been there done that. Listen to the experiences of posters here.

Thanks for more insight, but have to clarify. At the beginning she wanted stability and I did not offer it since I always had one foot out the door due to not wanting to be played and threatening to leave. It put her in between a rock and hard place since I said numerous times that a "normal" relationship doesn't involve me providing monetary support, which they still have monetary obligations to cover. She was fine with it and wanted to stay. I eventually just said Id give her $600 per month and I am going to try to make it work. We never get the full picture of someone until the relationship travels further down the road. She told me about her promise to her family to fix up their home, but she decided to pursue the relationship for her happiness and sanity.

She always had the option to leave for "better opportunities" and I've mentioned her age and earning potential is at their prime, which is kind of fucked up for me to suggest. It is a fine line between trying to be in a relationship and prying too much into past or preferences. I don't judge and I accept what I and she has done. I've told her she shouldn't be ashamed of her past or what she did for a living to survive since we all have different paths in life.

I'll keep everyone updated after the New Year's Eve trip. It could be an epic shit show or we could continue the relationship and figure out if she is able to transfer schools. I understand some don't want to discuss relationships on this forum, but it is good insight from other bros that have been down this path. When I met her she was on the top of my experiences from all over the world and the connection was unreal. I think that is the part of the reason I don't seek action in HK as she ruined it for me as it was epic every time we met. I was oblivious and thought she was this wonderful to everyone, but who knows she might have been. We would do multiple TLNs and she never asked me for money and said compensation is up to me. I just gave what I thought was reasonable. Most of the regulars tell me whatever I can help with and could range from $100-$400 depending on length of trip.

I wouldn't suggest trying to pursue a relationship with a sex worker, and I certainly didn't expect it. Everything could have been fine as an arrangement, but then she started involving me with her friends, family, and cousins. It has been eye opening experience that has helped me reflect on what I want at this stage in life and tolerance level. I think they value being genuine and honest compared to the many people they meet. She always asks if I miss the club and I say no, which is honest, but I do miss watching the shows.

At first she thought I was married and didn't want to disrupt me, but we've taken numerous trips all over Mexico and it has been a great experience the last 6 months of this year. Prior to going to Tijuana, it felt like ground hogs day everyday where I'd wake up, work from home, workout, and sleep. The trips with the chicas has been fun and good value compared to SoCal providers and I wouldn't change a thing.

Hope you guys have a great holiday season with your loved ones and if you're heading to any monger destinations, then have fun as well and stay safe.

[RikyMichaels7]

Then I do not know anyone with a real relationship because all the relationships I know of the guy is the provider.

Sorry to burst your bubble, Scott, but I have had the kind of sex you are having and the kind KB is having, and the kind KB has blows yours away.

And all the guys saying the women just want your money do not get women at all. Men crave money above all else, but women crave safety and security most.

KB's gal was raped by a Mexican guy. My gal breaks into tears when she talks about the father of her daughter. Just thinking about a Latin guy throws these women into PTSD, and there is a lot of abuse and rape and guys getting away with it in the Latin culture. These women want different, and they want safe.

I have heard it all before. The women want hunky, young Latin guys and everyone who thinks differently is a sucker. Sorry, dude, that is not what I saw.

Your comment about guys saying these women just want your money and that we don't get women is completely off base when it comes to these working women in Tijuana. Nine of of ten posters here will tell you this, and they have posted numerous stories that illustrate this. Sure, there are a handful of them that do want safety and security over money, but we all know these are few and far between. Now Kool Beans seems like a great guy and I would love to see his relationship with this girl work. However, there are a couple of red flags that he needs to consider. First of all, paying for her rent and other items in exchange for her not working in the bars is an admirable idea. I can't, however, see myself doing this for a girl that is also texting and arranging dates and claims she doesn't go through with them. This while I am supporting her living conditions. Another red flag to me is the piece about her making $500.00 a day working in Hong Kong, yet she is willing to accept the paltry (which it isn't) amount of money KB is giving her monthly. In my personal experience, using the amount of money she was making is an attempt at raising the bar in line with the negotiation the two have entered into where he will support her in lieu of her working. Part of the bargaining chip process. What will probably happen as time goes on is that the money given to her by KB will never be enough, nor will it compare to what she was making, which will lead to needing more. Been there done that. Listen to the experiences of posters here.

[Elvis 2008]

It's not a real girlfriend or relationship if he's paying her. A real relationship has nothing to do with money.

Then I do not know anyone with a real relationship because all the relationships I know of the guy is the provider.

This guy isn't the only one getting good lays in Tijuana. We're all living out our greatest fantasies but most can realize it's not reality and move on. It's an act and these girls are pros at it.

Sorry to burst your bubble, Scott, but I have had the kind of sex you are having and the kind KB is having, and the kind KB has blows yours away.

And all the guys saying the women just want your money do not get women at all. Men crave money above all else, but women crave safety and security most.

KB's gal was raped by a Mexican guy. My gal breaks into tears when she talks about the father of her daughter. Just thinking about a Latin guy throws these women into PTSD, and there is a lot of abuse and rape and guys getting away with it in the Latin culture. These women want different, and they want safe.

I have heard it all before. The women want hunky, young Latin guys and everyone who thinks differently is a sucker. Sorry, dude, that is not what I saw.

[DramaFree11]

I think he first needs to sort out his insecurities before he pursues a relationship. Pursuing a relationship with a puta is playing with fire, they're more often than not damaged goods. Going through your partner's phone is a red flag.

Exactly! They both need professional help.

[Sol12]

He's definitely handling the negative feedback like a champ. Hope he wakes up and sees her for what she really is: a puta.

Yeah he's been a gentleman to many that don't deserve it especially those that obviously haven't read his whole story and only comment on one post.

Yes she worked as a puta but as I've said many times not all are the same. Many like being putas and act that way, that doesn't interest me. Others get into I for what ever reason but soon look for a way out, many just want a simple life the problem is that guys don't look for those girls because they are your more average looking girls. The thing that turns me off with KBs girl is her still being very interested in smoking weed and drinking. I'm sure it's her age but if he's not into it and she just goes out with friends she will probably hook up with other guys until she gets caught. After all we all do dumb stuff when we are drunk or high. So we shall see if she's just trying to have her cake and eat it to.

[ScottHall]

DF, he is going to ride out no matter what anyone here says. Yeah, it is probably not going to work but most relationships do not work out. The key is to stick the landing and not be angry about it not working out but be grateful for the experience. If I had not gone through the pain of my engagement, I would have missed out on my dream girl.

I see guys here lining up against this relationship, wanting to say they are right if / when the breakup happens, and saying "I told you so", but the truth is he is on a ride here few guys know. How many guys here really have had a 9 or 10 fall for them? They are so damned cynical and afraid of being hurt that they do not believe it can happen.

It's not a real girlfriend or relationship if he's paying her. This guy isn't the only one getting good lays in Tijuana. We're all living out our greatest fantasies but most can realize it's not reality and move on. It's an act and these girls are pros at it. A real relationship has nothing to do with money.

[LuvMexicanas]

The only "ride" he is on is the one where the puta and her family separates him from his cash. You are a major simp if you think these 19-22 year olds develop long lasting feelings for fat middle aged gringos trawling the Tijuana alleys and night clubs.

You are just a source of cash for them, that's it. If you want a real relationship, try developing one that's not predicated with you paying for sex or supplying a steady source of easy income for them and their aunties. Talk to me when you do.

I won't assume motives or intentions because I don't know what's going through her head or KB's mind. Having said that, is this the right place for the inner workings of relationships? I think not because this is a Tijuana monger board, not Tijuana relationships board.

[PedroMorales]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Jtt...inalPsychology

He hired hooker Dalia Dippolito, married her and she then set him up for a hit. Dali is now doing 16 years, due for release in 2031. Dalia is quite tall. Here are her details. She needs a pen pal. It is funny when karma strikes http://www.dc.state.fl.us/offenderSe...&TypeSearch=AI.

[Big Magick]

Yeah, she mentioned being more chivalrous like opening doors and making her feel like a lady, but I told her I don't do that for anyone. People usually open doors for me and I'm confused why she hasn't walked from all the antics I've pulled. I met my ex and 3 months later we were married for 20 years. It is just the chemistry you feel when you're together and feel like you're going home when you're with them. Vulnerabilities are shared and accepted. I stopped gambling and mongering since being with her so I guess that is a positive. I have lost 10 pounds in past 2 months as she is trying to be healthy and doesn't want to gain weight. We do cardio training together and have similar life goals. My weekly food budget is probably her families monthly budget. I've learned to eat more potatoes and vegetables with her since she cooks with more budget friendly ingredients.

The hard thing with people is reading them and knowing their true intentions. The more time you spend and get to know each other, then the more you'll know if she is the one for you. Crazy that mongering was so much easier when I was married.

Thats what a good women does, she makes you better. It sounds like you need to learn some Spanish. It would make things more intimate and over all smoother. The girls love that I speak it. When I hear a bar girl speak English its a huge turn on. Instead of watching netflix with her so much try some Spanish lessons. Spanish is similar to English. You should be able to pick it up fast. You have a native speaker at your disposal.

[BlackThought]

DF, he is going to ride out no matter what anyone here says. Yeah, it is probably not going to work but most relationships do not work out. The key is to stick the landing and not be angry about it not working out but be grateful for the experience. If I had not gone through the pain of my engagement, I would have missed out on my dream girl.

I see guys here lining up against this relationship, wanting to say they are right if / when the breakup happens, and saying "I told you so", but the truth is he is on a ride here few guys know. How many guys here really have had a 9 or 10 fall for them? They are so damned cynical and afraid of being hurt that they do not believe it can happen.

I think he first needs to sort out his insecurities before he pursues a relationship. Pursuing a relationship with a puta is playing with fire, they're more often than not damaged goods. Going through your partner's phone is a red flag.

[BlackThought]

Glad you don't feel bad discussing it here especially with all the negativity that gets thrown at you.

He's definitely handling the negative feedback like a champ. Hope he wakes up and sees her for what she really is: a puta.

[DramaFree11]

DF, he is going to ride out no matter what anyone here says. Yeah, it is probably not going to work but most relationships do not work out. The key is to stick the landing and not be angry about it not working out but be grateful for the experience. If I had not gone through the pain of my engagement, I would have missed out on my dream girl.

I see guys here lining up against this relationship, wanting to say they are right if / when the breakup happens, and saying "I told you so", but the truth is he is on a ride here few guys know. How many guys here really have had a 9 or 10 fall for them? They are so damned cynical and afraid of being hurt that they do not believe it can happen.

Yep, there some guys that hate everybody and are actively rooting for guys to fail. I guess this from there own insecurities and jealousy. I want everyone to succeed. I am very critical of Kiev and Colombia, but I always try to give destinations that I feel are way better. I also give trip reports, so hopefully some can learn from my success and failures. When we met we had a great conversation, we did not agree on everything, but that is okay and that is how you learn new things.

I can careless if guys go there, and I want them to have fun, and go with the proper expectations.

[Member #4730]

KB you seem like a good guy and I don't want to see you or any other men go through the hell that is a bad relationship. I've seen what its done to me or other guys. Your situation is relatable. We are both mongers and gambling addicts, workaholics and honestly we are both simps. The reason I broke it off with the last bar girl was because I felt that stupid simp part of myself coming out and I ghosted her to save myself. Sure a good move for self preservation but maybe I missed out on a great girl. I recently met another bar girl and we have some dates planned. The chemistry and sex with this one is insane, I haven't experienced anything like this since my last civvie girlfriend. Only this time I'm going in it with a clear head. Maybe its all a game but time will tell. She's a damn good actress if its all fake though. Point is don't throw away what could potentially be a great thing but just be realistic with what it is. You also have to stop thinking in this messed up modern dating way where everything is a transaction. The last time you "fell in love" were you thinking like this or did you just give yourself freely? Again realistically all human relationships are based on value exchange. As we get older it does become more about money than just someone attractive and fun. I got into this lifestyle by a friend in america who dates strippers. He's actually stopped mongering and has been dating one for years now. This guy isn't anything special but what I realized is he was different from the other mongers and you are too if she's choosing to be with you. Think of the type of guy who goes to the Zona. They are young guys, guys already married, old men, low level dudes who couldn't even get a fat girl in america, rich guys who will just pump and dump her. For her to be with you this long you are obviously a better choice, probably even better than local mexicanos which guys on here say maybe she might still be dating but remember those mexicans will never have the power an american has. We also arent into machismo which they seem to like. Obviously the way you are handling this relationship isn't going the best. If you want this to work out you are going to have to change your mentality.

Yeah, she mentioned being more chivalrous like opening doors and making her feel like a lady, but I told her I don't do that for anyone. People usually open doors for me and I'm confused why she hasn't walked from all the antics I've pulled. I met my ex and 3 months later we were married for 20 years. It is just the chemistry you feel when you're together and feel like you're going home when you're with them. Vulnerabilities are shared and accepted. I stopped gambling and mongering since being with her so I guess that is a positive. I have lost 10 pounds in past 2 months as she is trying to be healthy and doesn't want to gain weight. We do cardio training together and have similar life goals. My weekly food budget is probably her families monthly budget. I've learned to eat more potatoes and vegetables with her since she cooks with more budget friendly ingredients.

The hard thing with people is reading them and knowing their true intentions. The more time you spend and get to know each other, then the more you'll know if she is the one for you. Crazy that mongering was so much easier when I was married.