Stupid Shit in Tijuana

[JamesKm1984]

And he STILL going! LMAO.

Must be sad to only find fulfillment in life by trying to be the king of a poon board. But it makes sense though why only Tijuana: no way in hell any American ladies would put up with him LMAO.

[Phordphan]

Someone needs to calm down, and quit slammin'.

Hoopin' is more like it.

[ScatManDoo]

Someone needs to calm down, and quit slammin'.

[ClamSlammer]

Anytime there has been a ficha quota debate, I cause my detractors to contradict themselves. Every-single-time with zero exceptions.

Contradict.

\ ˌkäand-trə712;dikt \.

Contradicted; contradicting; contradicts.

Definition of contradict.

Transitive verb.

1: to assert the contrary of: take issue with.

// contradict a rumor.

// She contradicted her brother's account of what happened.

2: to imply the opposite or a denial of:

// Your actions contradict your words.

// The evidence contradicts his testimony.

So here it is as promised, a classic self-contradiction:

More arribas mean they must sell more fichas.

If someone is arriba only, they will make absolutely nothing on fichas. So why would they bother trying to sell a ficha?

They "must sell more fichas" at the same time "why would they bother trying to sell a ficha?

It is a weekly "calculation".

Obviously made-up. You never mentioned this important fact before. You only say it after I brought up the fact that some putas don't cash in fichas daily. I'll defer until my closing statements to obliterate this false claim.

it's also only logical.

No, it's not. It defies all logic. Read further to see your "logic" flushed down the toilet.

If a girl goes there and is arriba only, let's just say she's upstairs 5 times. And sells no drinks, what value does she have for HK? That's what KC missed.

KC didn't miss anything. It's plainly obvious you don't have any experience calling the shots when running a business. You see no value in a puta who does not drink fichas. HK-Cascadas still charges $18 for short-term arriba rooms whether the puta drinks or not. An arriba-only puta still brings in mongers who buy beers at a 700% markup. These mongers tip chicas which keeps them working there. They tip meseros who in turn will keep paying HK to work there. Also, the more putas there are, the better HK's image, which the benefit is immeasurable.

I can also tell you that they don't count the first arriba each day. If you don't believe me, ask your favorite HK girl why they tell the robe guy they are going to lunch vs arriba.

Most putas each lunch in the dressing room and do not leave the premises so there is nothing to tell the robe guy. Besides, you think HK's management is stupid enough to fall for a "lunch" excuse from several hundred putas every single day, 365 days a year for several years? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me 158,984,987,088,564 times, shame on me.

And there is no "sanctioning". They just don't get paid as much.

If you don't know what a word means, I would advise that you abstain from directly responding to it, especially putting it in quotes LOL! Obviously you don't know what "sanctioning" means. Because it means exactly what you say it doesn't.

But I also have had it confirmed with an office manager at HK. He and I have become good friends. Met him once early morning at La Malquerida. He's actually a very good dude. And he's told me the good and the bad about many things regarding HK.

Obvious fabrication. You mean that before this debate, you took enough interest in the topic of a sliding ficha pay scale, that you actually discussed it with a HK manager? You didn't ask him about banging the putas, puta fights, which putas are notorious for what. Instead you asked him a sliding ficha pay scale? Yeah sure, ok, of course you did LOL! Ok so it interested you that much you must have listened intently and learned many details. So what details did you learn? Seems from all your posts here the answer is none! You conveniently left out your "good friend's" name. And what "good and bad" things about HK you learned from him. Obviously because there was no discussion. It's scary how accurate I am in pointing out lies, isn't it?

Time machine defense.

It never fails. Every single time I debate a HK daydreamer about their ficha quota fantasies, after completely annihilating my detractor, I leave him no other option than to adopt the "Time Machine Defense. " It entails a 1982 DeLorean DMC-12 outfitted with a custom Flux Capacitor, kept in secret by HK management. Because having a time machine would be the only way management could properly calculate a puta's ficha quota. What the manager does is go forward in time to collect data on which days a puta will work and how many arribas she will have, then travels back to present time using that data to calculate the ficha quota.

You see, if a quota existed, it MUST be calculated DAILY. Because putas can cash their fichas in DAILY. Now after I reminded you that some putas wait to cash in their fichas, you fabricated the tale of the "weekly calculation. " Well, if it is calculated "weekly" then how is the pay rate calculated for putas that cash in daily? Somehow management has to know how many arribas a puta will have in the future. Enter the Time Machine Defense.

[ClamSlammer]

I find it hilarious how hard you're trying to prove a point that, in actuality, is completely inconsequential to pooning.

Yeah, well, we ought to investigate and find out who started this completely inconsequential topic.

You've definitely taken it personally so I can tell that you're self-worth is based on your trivial knowledge of a strip club.

Not really, I'm just much more averse to lies and foolishness than your average person.

Let's face it, every strip club has that one guy that knows everybody's name and how it works.

No, but when you don't have anything intelligible to say, you start making up weird facts.

Then it's a miracle that HK is still open then if they're not taking a house fee.

I don't get it either. Selling $. 25 beers for $9. I mean, that's only a 3500% markup! How HK survives on such low margins will always be a mystery!

A place that is running 24/7 with the number of staff that it has would surely go bust.

Any normal monger, with let's say an IQ above 2, walking into HK for the first time will surely notice the excessive number of meseros present. That monger would think to himself something like this:

"Wow, why are there so many meseros? There's no way HK is paying all of them. They must work for only tips. But that still doesn't explain why there are so many of them. It wouldn't surprise me if management charges a fee to work there."

But JamesKm1984 thinks something like this:

"Wow, there are a lot of meseros here. How does HK pay them all? HK must charge each puta a $300 usd stage fee in order to pay all these meseros. I mean, Tijuana's sky-high minimum wage is $6 usd / day so charging $3 usd million a month in stage fees would be the only way to pay the meseros their $6/ day. I should have been a mathematician! I can't will till I get home and post on the puta board how I figured out how HK pays all their meseros! Everyone will be amazed how smart I am!

You can only make so much selling alcohol, and the mark up isn't as bad as a like a nightclub in NYC.

Unless you think rent, wages, and expenses of running a business in NYC are comparable to that of Tijuana, bringing up NYC destroys your own argument. As a Tijuana bar owner you are paying $6/ day minimum wage vs $120/ day in NYC. And that's not including rent payments which would be several times higher in NYC. So why on Earth would you mention NYC?

El Copeo, LE Conteiner and other bars in the higher rent Revolucion and Zona Rio districts seemed to be thriving selling beers for $.75. But it's a "miracle" HK, in a low rent district, can survive selling the same beers for $4 and even smaller beers for $9? ROFLMAO!

[MarksOfMagic]

I find it hilarious how hard you're trying to prove a point that, in actuality, is completely inconsequential to pooning. You've definitely taken it personally so I can tell that you're self-worth is based on your trivial knowledge of a strip club. I mean really, do you want a medal or something? You keep trying to prove a point when I simply just threw out a postulate and nothing more. You really need to find some other purpose in life other than being THAT GUY that knows everything about a strip club. Let's face it, every strip club has that one guy that knows everybody's name and how it works. But in the end, it doesn't amount to anything special. Sad.

Lmao, jameskm you are right on with this drama going on about proving a point.

My buddies that I take frequent trips to compare girls from the streets to sports & fantasy leagues, with hk being the pros, (NFL, mlb NBA). Tropical / Adelitas being college, minors semi pro. Chicago being some kind of international league and the streets being amateur rec leagues. Its a fun conversation topic and very relatable with real people and friends.

Comparing it to sports, I think we can all agree each girl has their own values, some more hot than others. Each paid different overpaid or underpaid. We can all agree that we would run businesses very differently from each other. And it comes back to the ladies, each one of their situations and goals are different that we can never relate to.

Knowing how much Hk makes or even how much a girl makes is good intel if we are trying to be putas or getting in the Tijuana strip club game. The only good I see is by know numbers and facts that can only be assumed theories or hearsay, TIP more or pay MORE to putas and maseros knowing how little they make compared to us who enjoy their services. Other than that this topic is a useless masters degree in the business & economics Tijuana putas.

[JamesKm1984]

Like I said, there's no point in arguing with someone who's dumb enough to believe HK pays all those meseros. Yup, they pay all 200 meseros when only 20 are needed. HK just hates money. LOL. Anybody with an IQ above 2 can recognize immediately that there's no way HK management is paying 200 meseros when only 20 are needed. So HK collects $3,000,000 dollars monthly in stage fees in order to pay the meseros. LOL. Somebody needs to go gas up the short bus.

I find it hilarious how hard you're trying to prove a point that, in actuality, is completely inconsequential to pooning. You've definitely taken it personally so I can tell that you're self-worth is based on your trivial knowledge of a strip club. I mean really, do you want a medal or something? You keep trying to prove a point when I simply just threw out a postulate and nothing more. You really need to find some other purpose in life other than being THAT GUY that knows everything about a strip club. Let's face it, every strip club has that one guy that knows everybody's name and how it works. But in the end, it doesn't amount to anything special. Sad.

[Dcrist0527]

What K. See. Questor stated is the absolute truth. I couldn't agree more. How refreshing it is to see a member who posts based on evidence and logic instead of posting their fantasies about being a HK manager as fact.

Not surprisingly, you totally misinterpreted my post. I am quite calm. You think a Tijuana bar must have comparable level markups as a NYC bar in order to remain afloat. You think that HK pays its meseros. You think that HK pulls in $3 million a month in stage fees alone. You think selling thousands of $. 25 wholesale beers for $9 usd every night is not enough to keep a business in millionaire-meca Tijuana afloat. That is your level of understanding. Nothing more needs to be stated.

Like K. See. Questor said, what you are saying is absolutely, positively, 100% false. There is ZERO correlation between arribas and fichas sold as far as payout is concerned. A ficha is $34 mx. Period. Doesn't matter if you go arriba 0 times or a million times. As expected, you provide ZERO evidence. Or even any detail at all.

If a puta is arriba-only, according to you, then she will get penalized for not selling any fichas. So why not turn down a pineapple juice if it may lower your chances of being sanctioned?

Now here comes the time when I systematically destroy my detractor's argument with facts and reason:

There is one undisputed FACT at HK which completely obliterates any and all pro-quota arguments. And the fact is that putas don't necessarily cash their fichas in daily. Some do. Some save up all their fichas because they don't want to have a lot of cash available because they know they will blow it. So, in Dcrist's HK managerial fantasy, is the supposed "correlation" calculated daily, or weekly, or monthly, annually, or every bicentennial? Because many chicas cash in their fichas daily. So according to Dcrist's fantasy, the "correlation" MUST BE calculated daily. If not, Dcrist's fantasy falls apart. When the putas go to the main bar to cash in their fichas, the bartenders don't leave the bar to go consult with the clipboard guy. They don't make any calls. How do they magically know how much to pay out? Truth is they just pay out the $34 mx because there's nothing to calculate..

Why I'm bothering to respond, I have no idea. But I'll add some facts for you. It is a weekly "calculation". It's not as complicated as you seem to think. While I personally know it to be true (as I've heard and seen the discussions & even helped a girl out of a pickle with management), it's also only logical. If a girl goes there and is arriba only, let's just say she's upstairs 5 times. And sells no drinks, what value does she have for HK? That's what KC missed. Every girl would make more money upstairs vs fichas. But HK would not. The arriba only girls do not make any money on fichas. And generally speaking, HK does not allow arriba only girls. There are exceptions of course. Conversely, we've all had or heard of situations where girls aren't interested in arriba but prefer the ficha game. As everyone has pointed out, 34 pesos doesn't pay the rent. The chica does not get rich off those tickets.

To be sure, we are still in Mexico. So like everything, the rules are malleable. But there is that base agreement. I can also tell you that they don't count the first arriba each day. If you don't believe me, ask your favorite HK girl why they tell the robe guy they are going to lunch vs arriba.

And there is no "sanctioning". They just don't get paid as much. You are right. Many chicas don't cash in daily. Their purses are full of little tickets. So what does that "prove"? What does that obliterate? Nothing. I'll tell you that I know this process from three different chicas that I know very well over the last year. One of those I would trust without question. But I also have had it confirmed with an office manager at HK. He and I have become good friends. Met him once early morning at La Malquerida. He's actually a very good dude. And he's told me the good and the bad about many things regarding HK.

Believe it. Don't believe it. I don't care. You can still be the undisputed authoritative source for all things HK. Do you get a golden nametag for that position? Asking for a friend.

[ClamSlammer]

LMAO. Thanks for proving my point.

Like I said, there's no point in arguing with someone who's dumb enough to believe HK pays all those meseros. Yup, they pay all 200 meseros when only 20 are needed. HK just hates money. LOL. Anybody with an IQ above 2 can recognize immediately that there's no way HK management is paying 200 meseros when only 20 are needed. So HK collects $3,000,000 dollars monthly in stage fees in order to pay the meseros. LOL. Somebody needs to go gas up the short bus.

[JamesKm1984]

Not surprisingly, you totally misinterpreted my post. I am quite calm. You think a Tijuana bar must have comparable level markups as a NYC bar in order to remain afloat. You think that HK pays its meseros. You think that HK pulls in $3 million a month in stage fees alone. You think selling thousands of $. 25 wholesale beers for $9 usd every night is not enough to keep a business in millionaire-meca Tijuana afloat. That is your level of understanding. Nothing more needs to be stated.

*ClamSlammer's HK Fun Fact: Who is HK's top earner? It's Lily. Not any floor puta named Lily. But the old lady house mom. Like I stated above, many putas don't want to hold cash because they know they will blow it. So they don't cash in their fichas right away. So what about their tips and arriba money? Many putas are afraid they'll lose their cash while roaming around drunk in the club. So they give it to Lily to hold for "safe keeping. " Sometimes for just a couple days, sometimes for months. Lily is like a bank to them. These putas trust Lily to hold and return their cash without any type of documentation. Problem is, Lily feeds upon their youth and naivety and flat out robs these putas out of thousands of dollars. Some were so drunk they don't even realize it. This has been happening for years.

LMAO. Thanks for proving my point.

[ClamSlammer]

A lot depends on the word "quota"...

What K. See. Questor stated is the absolute truth. I couldn't agree more. How refreshing it is to see a member who posts based on evidence and logic instead of posting their fantasies about being a HK manager as fact.

Dude, you need to calm down LMAO...

Not surprisingly, you totally misinterpreted my post. I am quite calm. You think a Tijuana bar must have comparable level markups as a NYC bar in order to remain afloat. You think that HK pays its meseros. You think that HK pulls in $3 million a month in stage fees alone. You think selling thousands of $. 25 wholesale beers for $9 usd every night is not enough to keep a business in millionaire-meca Tijuana afloat. That is your level of understanding. Nothing more needs to be stated.

But what I say is absolutely true. Quota might be too strong of a word. But your point about arriba only bolsters what I say. If someone is arriba only, they will make absolutely nothing on fichas. So why would they bother trying to sell a ficha?

Call it what you want. Quota. Threshold. Multiplier. But there is a tie between the number of arribas and the payout of fichas.

Like K. See. Questor said, what you are saying is absolutely, positively, 100% false. There is ZERO correlation between arribas and fichas sold as far as payout is concerned. A ficha is $34 mx. Period. Doesn't matter if you go arriba 0 times or a million times. As expected, you provide ZERO evidence. Or even any detail at all.

If a puta is arriba-only, according to you, then she will get penalized for not selling any fichas. So why not turn down a pineapple juice if it may lower your chances of being sanctioned?

Now here comes the time when I systematically destroy my detractor's argument with facts and reason:

There is one undisputed FACT at HK which completely obliterates any and all pro-quota arguments. And the fact is that putas don't necessarily cash their fichas in daily. Some do. Some save up all their fichas because they don't want to have a lot of cash available because they know they will blow it. So, in Dcrist's HK managerial fantasy, is the supposed "correlation" calculated daily, or weekly, or monthly, annually, or every bicentennial? Because many chicas cash in their fichas daily. So according to Dcrist's fantasy, the "correlation" MUST BE calculated daily. If not, Dcrist's fantasy falls apart. When the putas go to the main bar to cash in their fichas, the bartenders don't leave the bar to go consult with the clipboard guy. They don't make any calls. How do they magically know how much to pay out? Truth is they just pay out the $34 mx because there's nothing to calculate.

Like I previously stated, some putas save their fichas for days, weeks, even months. I'll provide evidence of this but right now photos are not uploading. So when a puta cashes in 500 fichas she's saved up over an undetermined period, what's the rate she'll get paid? How do you calculate the "correlation" of fichas and arribas accumulated over various shifts, afternoons and nights, Tuesdays vs. Fridays? Fact is, it would take hours to review each individual ficha and calculate the payout. Has anybody ever seen a puta after her shift, in street clothes holding her dufflebag, waiting 10 hours at the main bar to cash in her fichas? According to DCrist, it must happen all the time.

*ClamSlammer's HK Fun Fact: Who is HK's top earner? It's Lily. Not any floor puta named Lily. But the old lady house mom. Like I stated above, many putas don't want to hold cash because they know they will blow it. So they don't cash in their fichas right away. So what about their tips and arriba money? Many putas are afraid they'll lose their cash while roaming around drunk in the club. So they give it to Lily to hold for "safe keeping. " Sometimes for just a couple days, sometimes for months. Lily is like a bank to them. These putas trust Lily to hold and return their cash without any type of documentation. Problem is, Lily feeds upon their youth and naivety and flat out robs these putas out of thousands of dollars. Some were so drunk they don't even realize it. This has been happening for years.

[JamesKm1984]

It's no miracle that HK can stay open without charging stage fees. Don't take this the wrong way, but you are totally clueless when it comes to how HK is run. Don't get offended, I'm not calling you stupid. I'm just saying you know absolutely nothing about how HK is structured. And you're debating the Internet's undisputed foremost authority on HK. So allow me to explain how HK is run....

Dude, you need to calm down LMAO. You're going on like one of those anti-vaxxx moms I see on Facebook LMAO. "Weakens your argument". Really dude? You think I'm here to argue with you about a strip club? LOL.

Jeez, I literally made a post about what a girl told me and no, this isn't a girl that I ever paid outside of HK. Yes, I know pretty much everything about her, her kids, her family, why her English is near perfect, etc. It would be obvious why she would tell me if she ever asked me for money, but she has NEVER asked me for money. You're right, I don't know anything about HK because obviously I haven't gone nearly as much as you. But I can see why you go so much: if I were as intense as you, I would need to go that much to get a release from all the pent up frustration and energy.

You're taking pooning way too seriously dude. Seriously, who the fuck cares about how a strip club gets money from girls or apparently doesn't get money from girls? Somebody made a post about it and then I replied to it, and then you went anti-vaxxx mom about it lol. Congratulations, you know EVERYTHING about the inner workings of Hong Kong Gentlemen's Club, I'm sure they have a commemorative plaque with your name on it or they dubbed a suite "The Clammy Suite" in recognition of your efforts. I was borderline tempted to keep going with this just to antagonize you and see how far I could go with it.

Like I genuinely thank all the members, even you, for all the information and recommendations they've given. But goddamn son, you need to calm down before you give yourself an ulcer LOL.

[Dcrist0527]

You can't confirm what doesn't exist. No way arriba time is tied to some sort of ficha quota. I guarantee 100% there is NO FICHA QUOTA! The exact same thing happens Eevery single time I debate anyone about the existence of a ficha quota. I post facts and indisputable evidence. My detractor fantasizes about being a manager at HK and about the ficha policies he would implement. He then posts his made-up ficha policies as fact. Anytime there has been a ficha quota debate, I cause my detractors to contradict themselves. Every-single-time with zero exceptions. Not once has anyone posted any shred of evidence of a quota.

The clipboard guys keep track of the putas because they must work 8 hour shifts Sun-Wed and 9 hour shifts Thur-Sat. They don't want the putas leaving early. Of course management keeps track of where their putas are. Many putas are bored when it is slow and they just want to go home. Notice in the quoted post there is some sort of "magical" formula to balance arribas and a quota but conveniently the formula is not explained? Well that's because it doesn't exist. If if did, how do you explain chicas that are arriba-only? I personally know some putas that refuse all fichas and just go arriba.

Seriously, Clam. If you need to be crowned the one on ISG boards that knows everything that ever existed about HK, I'm not trying to challenge you. Nor do I have interest in discussing it. But what I say is absolutely true. Quota might be too strong of a word. But your point about arriba only bolsters what I say. If someone is arriba only, they will make absolutely nothing on fichas. So why would they bother trying to sell a ficha?

Call it what you want. Quota. Threshold. Multiplier. But there is a tie between the number of arribas and the payout of fichas. But it's a pointless argument. Tell me I'm wrong. OK. I have no interest in being crowned HK politics king.

[Captain Solo]

Who says US is a sex desert? Why you guys waste time and money cruising Tijuana for ugly street and bar hos?

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[ClamSlammer]

Man,

Seriously, you don't know the English language as well as you think you do. Maybe you know 99.5% of it, but every post I make, you are the only one who can't read it and comprehend it properly. All I can say, is you need to acknowledge your reading skills are lacking. Once you accept that, you won't get so worked up into a frenzy. You must get into arguments with people all day long. And half the people didn't have us passports don't ask me why they didn't though. I didn't ask them.

I'm not the one with a reading comprehension problem. You're the one with a reality comprehension problem. You're universally known as a pathological liar on this board. Just like Scat is universally known as a regalo-sack carrying loser who PM's members with a deluge of unsolicited deranged PM's complaining of self-perceived grievances about the moderator censoring his idiotic posts turning every mongering topic into a political diatribe.

How many times do I have to call you out and stone-cold bust you on your lies? 200 cops standing there munching popcorn while their squad car is set ablaze right in front of them? Trillionaires putting guns in senior's faces forcing them to list their house, find a buyer, hire building inspectors, title researchers, title insurers, appraiser, loan approval, escrow, closing, and paying the trillionaire all within the span of 5 business days? I forced you to admit you lied then, but you haven't learned your lesson as you're still making up wild fabrications that only the mentally disturbed could convey to the public on a message board.

Now your latest lie: "half the people didn't have us passports. " Are you kidding me? Assuming you crossed during the covid restrictions, there's no way half the people crossing didn't have a USA Passport. Let me remind you, the covid restrictions put in place prohibited Mexican visa holders from crossing, unless exempted such as holding a work visa. With the elimination of visa holders, the only people authorized to cross were USA Passport holders and Permanent Residents. So you're saying there were more Permanent Residents crossing than USA Passport holders? The only way that would be possible would be if you crossed when there was less than 10 people total in line, where there just happened to be a disproportionate amount of Permanent Residents. But don't take my word for it, let the facts and mathematics totally obliterate your lie. The population of the USA Is 331 million. There are an estimated 13.2 million Permanent Residents. That's a rate of 4%. So you're saying that when you crossed, the 4% rate somehow magically transformed into 50% LOL.

Ho-hum. Another day on the forum, another instance where I stone-cold bust another Dogers lie.