Stupid Shit in Tijuana

[Member #4722]

Rog and LuvMexicanas, I would just like to get your guys opinions on Dramaqueen. I've badly humiliated him a couple times on the Tijuana boards myself, but I don't go on the Kiev or Monterrey forums so my experiences in contrast to yours, is limited. You guys could make a living slapping down Dramaqueen's lies. So what you do think about his credibility in his series of posts:

Notice in the above quote the word "think" which is an indication that in his mind, it is possible, plausible, maybe even probable. But, the important point is that he is not sure, he has no proof.

Now look at the two above quotes and he is all of a sudden sure there is a sliding scale. How does he go from "not sure" to "definitely" with his credibility intact?

If I had the time or inclination I could go through this guys posts and point out hundreds of lies and hypocrisy. He literally went on a years long rant on how anyone traveling to Kiev could only get a girl with 7 looks at best. When we pointed out that a 7 is well above average, he started using 6 as his number for the best anyone could get.

He has no defense of his dribble he will come up with a clich like "I've forgot more about mongering than you will ever know".

There's a lot of know it all or troll posters here, but this guy ruined the Kiev forum and a lot of good posters stopped posting there. He literally posted the same messages on there for years despite the fact it's now been six years since he has visited there (his own words). But his "friends" that live there tell him about the current mongering situation and nightlife and he's just sure it's bad LOL.

Kiev is not easy for newbies but if you know what you are doing it's possible to meet very hot women there. He's just a huge liar who gets off on getting under people's skin. He's the only poster I've ever had a problem with in almost 20 years on this forum.

[LuvMexicanas]

Rog and LuvMexicanas, I would just like to get your guys opinions on Dramaqueen. I've badly humiliated him a couple times on the Tijuana boards myself, but I don't go on the Kiev or Monterrey forums so my experiences in contrast to yours, is limited. You guys could make a living slapping down Dramaqueen's lies. So what you do think about his credibility in his series of posts:

Notice in the above quote the word "think" which is an indication that in his mind, it is possible, plausible, maybe even probable. But, the important point is that he is not sure, he has no proof.

Now look at the two above quotes and he is all of a sudden sure there is a sliding scale. How does he go from "not sure" to "definitely" with his credibility intact?

I'm not going to get into fichas because quite frankly I don't care but DQ has credibility issues galore. I think BaxterSlade said it best in response to Ctytek's critical reply to a DQ post: "Don't you worry about (DQ) he has never left his mom's basement". I think DQ has an active imagination which is not necessarily a bad thing unless you're trying to pass off fantasy as fact. However, my primary criticism of DQ is the constant noise like a little barking dog on how he's crushing it in MTY or is currently there having such a great time. If done on the MTY thread, great but that's not the case so why does he continue the barking outside that thread? I can only surmise that it's because he seeks or needs approval and attention from the highest levels, and he knows the Tijuana threads are where the big dawgs roam.

[DramaFree11]

Rog and LuvMexicanas, I would just like to get your guys opinions on Dramaqueen. I've badly humiliated him a couple times on the Tijuana boards myself, but I don't go on the Kiev or Monterrey forums so my experiences in contrast to yours, is limited. You guys could make a living slapping down Dramaqueen's lies. So what you do think about his credibility in his series of posts:

Notice in the above quote the word "think" which is an indication that in his mind, it is possible, plausible, maybe even probable. But, the important point is that he is not sure, he has no proof.

Now look at the two above quotes and he is all of a sudden sure there is a sliding scale. How does he go from "not sure" to "definitely" with his credibility intact?

You actually have to get a life. I am actually with girls at the moment in MTY. You forgot Moscow, Colombia and Rio. Have fun.

[Dcrist0527]

Let's do an ISG poll: What is more comical:

1 The vast amount of time Clammy spends on this topic when nobody cares?

2 Clammy referring to himself in the 3rd person?

3 Clammy thinking of himself as a diabolic genius, setting traps?

4 Clammy continuing to allow myself, and a few others, to reside rent free in that vapid mind?

5 Clammy numbering his "evidence"?

6 Or Clammy hanging on to his impossible theory that HK doesn't track ficha sales. Just imagine what HK would look like if a chica's only motivation to sell a ficha was $1. 50, when they make $100 on arriba. That's what our dear king of Mexican strip clubs believes. And his proof? Because a highly successful, money machine business can't figure out how to track drink sales. LMAO.

So Jinxx, allow me to provide a synopsis of the discussion:

1. DaydreamerCrist is insistent that a SSFQ exists, and that he supposedly confirmed it with his HK manager friend, LOL LOL LOL! He claims he has enough influence over this manager that he can obtain complimentary beers. Yet he cannot obtain the slightest iota of proof from his friend.

2. DaydreamerCrist says the more arribas a chica goes, the less the payout of a ficha. He also says that the more arribas a chica goes, the more fichas she must sell. He's not even sure which one it is.

3. DaydreamerCrist has never, to this minute, posted any evidence of a SSFQ.

4. DaydreamerCrist has suggested that chicas that have their arriba / ficha ratio "out of whack" are fired after one reprieve. He has also acknowledged the existence of arriba-only chicas. These chicas couldn't exist under his system..

[ClamSlammer]

Ugh except for all the reports I've posted about at least 80% of the ladies I've been with while traveling for this hobby. Your lie can be disproven by a simple search of my user name. I haven't been able to travel like normal during the global pandemic thing that's going on. Didn't you say that you gave your parents covid after a mongering trip? Real responsible buddy.

We are all paying for pussy here. Just because you pay for the most pussy doesn't make you the biggest stud LOL.

Rog and LuvMexicanas, I would just like to get your guys opinions on Dramaqueen. I've badly humiliated him a couple times on the Tijuana boards myself, but I don't go on the Kiev or Monterrey forums so my experiences in contrast to yours, is limited. You guys could make a living slapping down Dramaqueen's lies. So what you do think about his credibility in his series of posts:

As I have said before I think it is sliding scale...

Notice in the above quote the word "think" which is an indication that in his mind, it is possible, plausible, maybe even probable. But, the important point is that he is not sure, he has no proof.

yes there is sliding scale.

Here is the bottom line there is a sliding scale.

Now look at the two above quotes and he is all of a sudden sure there is a sliding scale. How does he go from "not sure" to "definitely" with his credibility intact?

[ClamSlammer]

So Jinxx, allow me to provide a synopsis of the discussion:

1. DaydreamerCrist is insistent that a SSFQ exists, and that he supposedly confirmed it with his HK manager friend, LOL LOL LOL! He claims he has enough influence over this manager that he can obtain complimentary beers. Yet he cannot obtain the slightest iota of proof from his friend.

2. DaydreamerCrist says the more arribas a chica goes, the less the payout of a ficha. He also says that the more arribas a chica goes, the more fichas she must sell. He's not even sure which one it is.

3. DaydreamerCrist has never, to this minute, posted any evidence of a SSFQ.

4. DaydreamerCrist has suggested that chicas that have their arriba / ficha ratio "out of whack" are fired after one reprieve. He has also acknowledged the existence of arriba-only chicas. These chicas couldn't exist under his system.

5. ClamSlammer baited DaydreamerCrist into stating for the record at what interval the quota is calculated. ClamSlammer did so by reminding DaydreamerCrist that chicas often save their fichas for several days or longer. DaydreamerCrist, badly outsmarted, fell haplessly into ClamSlammer's trap and replied "it is calculated weekly. " DaydreamerCrist has acknowledged that chicas have the option to cash in daily if they wish. DaydreamerCrist has refused to answer how the rate of a daily payout can be calculated, without the aid of a time machine, when the official weekly calculation won't be released for 1-6 days in the future.

6. DaydreamerCrist agrees that chicas can cash out fichas for one another. This would surely not be allowed under a SSFQ system.

7. DaydreamerCrist has stated that chicas fool management by claiming that their first arriba of the day they are going to lunch instead of arriba. He thinks that management still falls for that scam after millions of arribas. They can't figure it out.

8. DaydreamerCrist has acknowledged the universally accepted HK ficha value of $34 mx. If a SSFQ existed, the amount would be variable and nobody would mention $34.

Pretty much any one of these points disproves a SSFQ, but you add them all and there is no way one can exist. And these are just the ones I can think off the top of my head.

For some reason, I'm getting the itch to put on a Monkees album. I can't help but sing along now.

"Cheer up sleepy Jean.

Oh what can it mean?

Dcrist is a daydream believer.

And a homecoming queen."

[ClamSlammer]

From what I can tell you guys don't even necessarily disagree.

Does their exist a strictly tracked strictly enforced ficha quota system that scans bar codes and outputs an excel spreadsheet mathematical formula to the data cloud in real time to determine a chica's pay? I think everyone agrees that's not the case.

Do managers and meseros pressure chicas to sell more fichas and therefore show favor to their "top producers"? Obviously they would as that's how they make more money. But an actual mathematical quantifiable quota system seems highly unlikely, if not logistically impossible.

Jinxx, you, like myself, are an educated monger with above average intelligence. We have the ability, when presented with a scenario, to objectively judge the possibilities based on our observations of reality. The more idiotic, absurd the suggestion, the quicker we can dismiss it. You immediately declared that it is impossible for a SSFQ to exist at HK as soon as you entered the discussion. Because you can see reality, and that HK clearly lacks the necessary infrastructure to accurately track each chica's arribas. DaydreamerCrist for some reason thinks the clipboard guy is capable of keeping track of 1000 chica arribas. And that at the end of the week HK management gathers dozens of pages of barely legible chicken scratch from the clipboard guy, and takes hours and hours to match each chica's name to her arriba account. Nevermind that there is no method to uniquely identify each chica, that some share the same name, some change their names, some can use different names. It doesn't matter to DaydreamerCrist.

Remember Hong Kong's slogan? "If you can dream it, it can happen." DaydreamerCrist is taking that way too literally. He is daydreaming about being a HK manager, and how he would implement a SSFQ. Based on his failures in real life, he has an internal need to feel intelligent. And that is why he is inventing a quota, thinking of it as brilliant, then reporting it as fact. Pathetic.

When you say that we "don't even necessarily disagree," that is incorrect. You stated that because you thought there is no possible way anyone could be dumb enough to believe in a SSFQ. Judging from your absence from the discussion until recently, it can be inferred that you were not previously following it. Because indeed, we have a very apparent disagreement. DaydreamerCrist is emphatic that a SSFQ exists, and I am emphatic that it is impossible. After being pummeled by facts and evidence, DaydreamerCrist invented the outlandish claim that he is friends with a HK manager, and that manager confirmed to him that a SSFQ does insist. He didn't bring this up in the beginning, only after he was thoroughly destroyed by yours truly. Obviously a desperate attempt to save his credibility, which failed miserably.

Here are some points that everyone agrees on, that do not require any further discussion:

1. Some putas receive preferential treatment from management.

2. Management has a good idea of who the top earners are. Hell, any regular monger has a good idea too.

3. Management encourages chicas to sell more fichas.

4. DaydreamerCrist and Scatman do not know the difference between "evidence" and "hearsay."

5. DaydreamerCrist does not know the definition of "sanction."

To be continued.

[Jinxx]

Working class puta strip club, but the local wouldn't be caught dead there? Who goes there then?

Never been to MTY, but sounds fascinating.

In Monterrey if you bring up el Matehuala in a conversation locals will tell you that's a low class dangerous place. They will look at you like you're crazy if you tell them you hang out there. Yea there are plenty of "locals" hanging out there, but they're not the class of locals a gringo would normally come into contact with. For example Monterrey is a center of business and commerce. Most travelers who end up in Mty strip clubs are in town for work or business unlike Tijuana zona Norte where most guys are in town just for sex tourism not for work or business travel. So if you ask your local Mty contacts where to find hot chicks they're going to direct you to the upscale places, and if you say you want to check out el Matehuala they'll tell you you're crazy.

[DramaFree11]

Your odds of getting into Mexico not paying money are slim to none. You could walk in otay line don't look at the person in eyes, if they stop you, say your going to dentist. You will need proof and it needs to be in the morning as dentist won't be open new years day. Otay only has one line so to do this at san Ysidro. Essentially you would have to walking the Mexican line, and act stupid if checked. If you have a bag and don't look Mexican expect to be stopped. So, if you show the passport, either its free, if they believe dental appointment, or its 30 bucks, or they could say no go. You could also state you left passport home, pay 20. To go for 1 day. There's no paperwork. And maybe they won't let you do this. If it fails at one border go to the next.

I have been walking or driving for months now. I usually do not get a doctors note and normally it is not a problem. It just depends on the agent. They have all the power.

If you are crossing late afternoon early evening tell them you have dental surgery early in the morning. Dr. Note is always a good idea now.

[Phordphan]

The only reason to go there is the surreal feeling of stumbling into a bad movie.

LMAO!! Very accurate description, indeed!

[ClamSlammer]

In previous years when HK had 100 girls working every weekend...HK still has 30- 40 girls at night on weekend. Adellta has about 20 girls, most not as hot and glammy as HK's

I like the Captain, in my opinion he writes the most colorful, entertaining posts on this board. But please, for goodness sake, pick up a Sesame Street Counting 1-2-3 book and learn how to count! HK pre-covid, on a typical weekend, would have between 400-600 putas. There would be 30 putas in the little Miami section alone. There would be 15 just sitting at the two main bars. Then 20 dancing on the stages and bars. That's 65 putas just in Miami Room and dancing. So according to the Captain, there's only 35 other putas on the floor? Not to mention the chicas in the dressing room, on lunch, cocaine breaks, arriba with mongers.

And right now, Cascadas will have 220-300 chicas. They'll be 45 girls standing in the hallway alone. Plus in each room there's always at least 6 chicas sitting on the jacuzzi ledge, 10 seated at tables, and another 10 standing around. Multiply that by 8 or so rooms. And my numbers are conservative estimates.

And Adelita's will have 20 girls? Try 120. WTF is going on? Are numbers that difficult?

[Ctytek]

And for anybody who might be wondering, El Matehuala is a big working class puta strip club in Monterrey. Super raunchy and super raw. Most Monterrey locals wouldn't be caught dead in that place in a million years

Working class puta strip club, but the local wouldn't be caught dead there? Who goes there then?

Never been to MTY, but sounds fascinating.

[Baxter Slade]

Hilarious and I suspect totally accurate and on point. Been rolling around the Zona and fringes the last couple days. Found the two spots you mentioned (Rio Verde and Bar Reno), but both looked closed.

Rio verde can be fun. On the other hand never go to Bar Reno in hopes of meeting chicas. The only reason to go there is the surreal feeling of stumbling into a bad movie.

Unfortunatly for now our only choices are the speakeasies. There is the club in hotel Korea which provides discounted beers and fichas. But it is pretty dead early in the evening , try around 4 am.

[DramaFree11]

I've noticed quite a few guys use SA in Tijuana. How would you compare SA Tijuana to SA Monterrey?

And for anybody who might be wondering, El Matehuala is a big working class puta strip club in Monterrey. Super raunchy and super raw. Most Monterrey locals wouldn't be caught dead in that place in a million years. But me, well, that's where I spend 90% of my time when I'm in Mty. It's one of my favorite places I've ever been to.

Thanks for the tip, I will definitely check it out when things get back to normal. I did not have good luck with SA in Tijuana, it was okay in GDL. Mexico City it was above average and MTY is a whole different level.

[Member #4722]

I've noticed quite a few guys use SA in Tijuana. How would you compare SA Tijuana to SA Monterrey?

And for anybody who might be wondering, El Matehuala is a big working class puta strip club in Monterrey. Super raunchy and super raw. Most Monterrey locals wouldn't be caught dead in that place in a million years. But me, well, that's where I spend 90% of my time when I'm in Mty. It's one of my favorite places I've ever been to. 😁

Sounds like my kinda place. From description it sounds like La Boca in Panama City. I was the only gringo there the entire week I visited.