Stupid Shit in Bogota

[JjBee62]

Just perfect! Coming from the forums pompous moron.

Please show us more passport stamps!

Did some bastard move the Darien Gap while I wasn't looking?

[Gabacho]

Bruh, you're full of contradictions SIR. You're the one complaining about SF remember? Which means anyone can freely jump to the conclusion that you prefer home, Medellin LOL. So go there. Or maybe you should stay home in the state like you said. That's conflict 1, Second, you being in SF means you aint no baller and nothing but a degenerate like the rest of us, looking for cheap pussy, so in reality paying $10 vs $40 in a club is no different, to re-confirm your fast food vs steak analogy makes no sense. Your 3rd conflict is you're like a little boy crying for mommy, dude you're in a *****house and worrying about how many dudes a wg bangs? LOL. Then why are you there? Looking for a girlfriend to only pay attention to you and make love to you? What did you expect? Don't make MR E get you cause he's good at stuff like that LOL. One my heroes here!! Again, conflicted and experienced.

Don't take me seriously bruh, don't me mad, we're all deviants and degenerates having fun. No need to talk shit about an entire city just cause you had some bad pussy or a failed experience / trip. Not like that will persuade mofos from traveling. Heck other day some pothead wrote on here that prostitution is illegal in Col. Total delusion and that's what people / trolls come here to write all the time, garbage, and it means absolute jack cause we call make make our own research and we're still going to go to bang. So write, but expect replies. For fun and don't be mad.

Cheers.

Yea this guy MB1 is an idiot, I'm glad I'm not the only one who calls him out on his bullshit. He should just stay out of Colombia all together.

[Balboa]

I found this exchange to be very funny. Two guys who've never been south of the Darien Gap debating each other on the topic of travel fiction. But, I guess that's why it's called "Stupid Shit in Bogota".

Just perfect! Coming from the forum’s pompous moron.

Please show us more passport stamps!

[Eszpresszo]

Bottom line is there is no right way or wrong way. Only one's particular way.

These debates always baffle me because there is no correct answer.

I love the street scene. I agree that these street scene areas are usually dumpy areas, however, I've gotten very good at finding diamonds.

I'm patient, I speak very good spanish, and I love the hunt.

I've had very good luck, especially in Medellin where I am now.

The IG, FB, SA, Club scene, etc are all great avenues as well. Just not my thing.
Like I said. Theres no right or wrong way.

Enjoy.

I found this exchange to be very funny. Two guys who've never been south of the Darien Gap debating each other on the topic of travel fiction. But, I guess that's why it's called "Stupid Shit in Bogota".

[Balboa]

If your main goal is saving, why don't you just stay home and save 100% of your hard earned money that you would otherwise spent on mongering? My primary goal is to have a great and memorable time in Colombia, everything else comes second. I have my budget, but I'm not a penny pincher. All the wealthy guys that I know don't try to save money on girls, because this kind of expense is negligible to them. They do bargain, when it comes to investing their money. Saving a few bucks on hookers doesn't make any sense to them.

I did not compare Bogota vs Medellin, do you have reading comprehension issues? And how does high mileage relate to this comparison? Makes zero sense to me. If a chick fucks 2-5 guys per day, 4-5 times a week she is doing it full time and is high mileage. This has nothing to do with rotation between the cities or clubs.

Bottom line is there is no right way or wrong way. Only one's particular way.

These debates always baffle me because there is no correct answer.

I love the street scene. I agree that these street scene areas are usually dumpy areas, however, I've gotten very good at finding diamonds.

I'm patient, I speak very good spanish, and I love the hunt.

I've had very good luck, especially in Medellin where I am now.

The IG, FB, SA, Club scene, etc are all great avenues as well. Just not my thing.
Like I said. There’s no right or wrong way.

Enjoy.

[MaddTraveler]

If your main goal is saving, why don't you just stay home and save 100% of your hard earned money that you would otherwise spent on mongering? My primary goal is to have a great and memorable time in Colombia, everything else comes second. I have my budget, but I'm not a penny pincher. All the wealthy guys that I know don't try to save money on girls, because this kind of expense is negligible to them. They do bargain, when it comes to investing their money. Saving a few bucks on hookers doesn't make any sense to them.

I did not compare Bogota vs Medellin, do you have reading comprehension issues? And how does high mileage relate to this comparison? Makes zero sense to me. If a chick fucks 2-5 guys per day, 4-5 times a week she is doing it full time and is high mileage. This has nothing to do with rotation between the cities or clubs.

Bruh, you're full of contradictions SIR. You're the one complaining about SF remember? Which means anyone can freely jump to the conclusion that you prefer home, Medellin LOL. So go there. Or maybe you should stay home in the state like you said. That's conflict 1, Second, you being in SF means you aint no baller and nothing but a degenerate like the rest of us, looking for cheap pussy, so in reality paying $10 vs $40 in a club is no different, to re-confirm your fast food vs steak analogy makes no sense. Your 3rd conflict is you're like a little boy crying for mommy, dude you're in a *****house and worrying about how many dudes a wg bangs? LOL. Then why are you there? Looking for a girlfriend to only pay attention to you and make love to you? What did you expect? Don't make MR E get you cause he's good at stuff like that LOL. One my heroes here!! Again, conflicted and experienced.

Don't take me seriously bruh, don't me mad, we're all deviants and degenerates having fun. No need to talk shit about an entire city just cause you had some bad pussy or a failed experience / trip. Not like that will persuade mofos from traveling. Heck other day some pothead wrote on here that prostitution is illegal in Col. Total delusion and that's what people / trolls come here to write all the time, garbage, and it means absolute jack cause we call make make our own research and we're still going to go to bang. So write, but expect replies. For fun and don't be mad.

Cheers.

[Dcfan77]

Agreed. Santa Fe is it for everyone but I always like to compare it to Tijuana.

The fact that my opinion is different from yours doesn't mean it is not based on reality. I speak from my own experience. I had sessioned in SF before, and never had a mind blowing experience. Mediocre at best, which is expected from a high mileage girl. Speaking of high mileage, last time I was there I actually saw a girl that maybe I would do, but she was always busy even to talk to me. We just got exchanged Hello,'s and off she went with another customer. She did 3 guys, back to back, while I was there drinking my beers. When she finally became available, I passed on her, I didn't want to be her 4th (at the very least) customer that night. These girls are sex machines, they do one guy after another, do your own math. Some of them fuck more times than most of the mongers here fuck in entire lifetime. No wonder the service is mechanical and all covered. Totally expected. You don't walk in a McDonald's asking for a NY steak, right? Sf is kind of a fast food, so to speak. Cheap, quick, efficient. I understand the appeal of it to a monger from the US. Someone in his 50's-70's, maybe divorced, retired, on a budget, with literally no sex life back home. Fucking a 18-20 yo for 20 bucks is impossible back home. But here it is cheap, legal, and nobody will ever find out, in case you care about privacy. I'm not trashing the place, I actually said that it might be a good place to hang out with a buddy, have a few beers and watch the show. But I would rather prefer a nice NY steak at a sit down restaurant rather than a burger and fries at McDonald's, and still stay within my budget. Im not some weekend warrior, I know the going rates at different venues and never throw crazy money at girls. What I am trying to say, is that one can venture outside of SF, and have a much more pleasant GFE experience for a reasonable price.

[JjBee62]

I don't post trip reports because they are of no value. I don't share contacts, and I don't post girls' photos on a public forum. I mainly use Seeking and Tinder, and much less FB and Insta. There is no one magic place where you find GFE for reasonable price. I prefer to stick to online platforms. If your Spanish is good, approaching girls at malls, gyms, etc is a good option. Recently I have been relying on my old contacts rather than looking for new girls. Insta 10 for 200 k? Not happening, don't be delusional.

Haven't seen any of your reports either. Most of your posts are about promoting street scene, and attacking posters who you think overpay, or pay more than you do.

What? Me? Attacking people who overpay? Promoting the street scene? Not even close.

I don't do the street scene. It's never been of much interest to me. I enjoy hanging out in areas like Santa Fe and El Centro and have seen many beautiful women working the streets in both places, but I'm not there to partake and I'm certainly not promoting it. Quite the opposite.

I've told this story many times about the first ISG member I met. He had posted asking for recommendations for lodging in Medellin. A couple of street rats told him to stay in El Centro. I suggested he book a few nights at the Mansion and figure out his comfort level. He booked in El Centro and spent 1 night locked in his room, uncomfortable and nervous. He was lucky enough to get a room at the Mansion starting his second night. He wanted to thank me for steering him in the right direction and saving his vacation.

What I've always promoted, and always will, is that people find their own comfort level. If you don't like the street scene I'll never try to convince you to stop what you like and switch. However, when you're insulting the people who prefer the streets, I'm going to say something. It has nothing to do with the street scene. It's all about letting people do their own thing. If you had been paying attention you would have seen me respond the same when people trash the Mansion, Gusto or La Isla.

Attacking people who overpay, or who pay more than I do? Again you're way off. My catchphrase has always been "Your Dick. Your money. Your business. " In just the past few days I've posted several times explaining price increases and why some girls want more money. Many times I've debated against the idea that a few guys overpaying are the reason behind price increases.

Here's another story I've tossed out several times, to explain why I don't give out contact info or post links to their social media. A guy had struck out finding a girl. I suggested one but told him she would accept nothing under 200 k (5 years ago). I gave him full disclosure on her and told him not to message her unless he was willing to pay 200 k. He lowballed her and then started insulting her when she wouldn't take 100 k.

Shit. At the end of my last trip I posted about agreeing to 2 million pesos for a trio with a set of twins (either 3 or 4 hours, pictures and video allowed). If she hadn't insisted on half in advance, I'd have cheerfully paid her. I don't care about price. While I generally keep to the average, I will pay what I feel is appropriate.

You haven't seen any of my reports because I'm not in Colombia right now. When I'm in Colombia I usually report every day. I report about restaurants where I eat, places where I stay, tourist stuff I do, the weather, the exchange rate and a bit about the girls.

While I agree that reviews about what positions and where I left my load are useless, other things are quite useful. Here are some examples:

1. When setting up with a Facebook girl I'll tell her to arrive 30-45 minutes before the time I want her to arrive. If I want her there at 8 pm, I'll tell her 7:30. Usually she'll be at my door by 8:15.

2. When a girl gives a price higher than you want, respond with "siempre pago" followed by your price. Not only is it a polite way to get a better price, it tells the girl you know what's normal.

3. When a girl gives a price without the "mil", always confirm she's talking about pesos. If she says 200, you repeat it back as "200 mil pesos?" This keeps you from finding out afterwards she expects $200.

4. It's better to pay than to argue and get the police involved. If she agreed to everything for 200 k, but didn't do half, arguing over paying her brings more trouble than you want.

5. If you speak no Spanish take a few minutes each day to learn a little. Although you can get by without Spanish, every bit you learn improves your experience. Even if you only learn to say you don't speak Spanish it will improve your interactions with Colombians.

Add in my posts about getting started with Facebook (in Medellin) and I've probably contributed a few things which some have found useful. Most of the ISG members I've met have been the result of something I posted.

Trip reports aren't useless. Don't need pictures and don't need to share contacts. Just sharing things like the area you stayed in, or where you found the girl helps guys out. It lets them know what works and who to pm for more information.

[QualitySmut]

I don't post trip reports because they are of no value. I don't share contacts, and I don't post girls' photos on a public forum. I mainly use Seeking and Tinder, and much less FB and Insta. There is no one magic place where you find GFE for reasonable price. I prefer to stick to online platforms. If your Spanish is good, approaching girls at malls, gyms, etc is a good option. Recently I have been relying on my old contacts rather than looking for new girls. Insta 10 for 200 k? Not happening, don't be delusional.

Haven't seen any of your reports either. Most of your posts are about promoting street scene, and attacking posters who you think overpay, or pay more than you do.

2 things bothered me when reading this.

1. It would add value. Even if you don't share your contacts (which is in itself kind of selfish if you ask me). Hearing about you experiences would help younger mongers like myself understand if this is an avenue I would like to try. It would give me a blue print on how to get good GFE in Colombia. The details of the encounter can help me learn what a good deal is vs a scam. The details can help me figure out if the benefits of this path is worth the extra. To a guy like me both options sound awesome. Going up to a 7-8 on the street and sticking something in her for like 10 usd in under 30 minutes of meeting. Like I tip people that here for bringing me drinks at a restaurant. Option be take home a 9 or 10 by your personal standards and get a GFE so good it make you not want to share your prostitutes info. This option is like 65 usd or 300 k cop. I can't even get a decent covered BJ for that in the US. Either way sounds exciting and fun. I'm not sure if not posting report is a a lazy cop out or you really think they don't add value. I'm here to tell you sir I'm here wanting to know as many details as you will allow. Everything from how you select them to how you get them to meet up. Everything from your most successful strategies to you big mistakes. I could learn from all of it. So when I make my way there next month I will be able to tell more stories here about how I did things right vs telling a bunch of stories about how I wasted my times with the wrong chicas.

2. My man JjBee62 has already helped me out like 5 times this past week. 3 Directly and a few more from me running across his reports. If you asking for his reports you must not be looking very hard. It seems in Colombia there only like 3 or 4 people more active than him recently. He the OG in my opinion. Some of them weren't trip reports but there was defintely information he shared he most likely got mongering in Colombia. It's either that or he is living vicariously through the board reading this front to back like a book.

Last but not least MaddTraveler did a less than good job articulating his point countering you. I'm not taking sides in the GFE vs SF debate but I love a good debate. It turned from an argument to a loosely related rant on his part. So thanks for keeping your argument concise enough so I can enjoy your debate with the others.

[Igor54]

I don't post trip reports because they are of no value. I don't share contacts, and I don't post girls' photos on a public forum. I mainly use Seeking and Tinder, and much less FB and Insta. There is no one magic place where you find GFE for reasonable price. I prefer to stick to online platforms. If your Spanish is good, approaching girls at malls, gyms, etc is a good option. Recently I have been relying on my old contacts rather than looking for new girls. Insta 10 for 200 k? Not happening, don't be delusional.

Haven't seen any of your reports either. Most of your posts are about promoting street scene, and attacking posters who you think overpay, or pay more than you do.

Could you please share your opinion. I don't use SA and etc. But I wonder how much time does it take to get a girl from SA. Bogota? + I wonder, how many times a girl does not match your expectations? For example; fake or outdated pics or bad service. Thanks.

[MiamiBoy1]

Damn son you sound mad af? Maybe we should exchange usernames LOL. You said you're not trying to trash Bogota yet you are. Also your fast food vs steak analogy isn't realistic, because you could be within your budget but you'll still pay more for the steak vs a cheeseburger. So there is literally zero point to mention this, yes I know my burger costs 1 dollar, maybe I don't want to spend 20 buck on steak so I can save 19 bucks. Just cause you could afford it doesn't mean we spent the same amt, yet your comment is trying to justify the 20 bucks and to make it sound as if we'll end at the same spot. No we won't cause I'll have more money left LOL, so pointless comment again.

Maybe you're young, I am too, and I can promise you many older gents have a whole lot more money than you and I combined, and yet they're the ones who roll on a budget. Absolutely nothing wrong with it. I've mongered in 15+ countries, and the guys with money that I personally know are the ones who bargain the most, save more, invest more wisely in other words, and not just in pussy.

Another thing to finally get to the point, Bogota isn't cheaper than Medellin son, I repeat, Bogota is Not cheaper. SF street girls are comparable to street girls in El centro Mde, SF clubs are also comparable to clubs in El Centro Mde. In fact clubs on the North end of Bogota are by far more superior and more expensive than those few ones in Mde, in fact no comparison in quality and in quantity. Bogota is a HUGE city, and we're only talking about a few street blocks, there are 10 x more casas, 10 x+ more clubs, meaning 10 x more photoprepagos, all categories. So this entire analysis of high mileage pussy blah blah is pure BS and if anything you sound super inexperienced LOL. These putas also rotate from cities to cities, met two chicas in Medellin that used to work in Fiebre, they recognized me. Met in a centro club and that same night saw them again in Llerra. The entire country's the same shit when it comes to putas hombre, they just rotate.

If your main goal is saving, why don't you just stay home and save 100% of your hard earned money that you would otherwise spent on mongering? My primary goal is to have a great and memorable time in Colombia, everything else comes second. I have my budget, but I'm not a penny pincher. All the wealthy guys that I know don't try to save money on girls, because this kind of expense is negligible to them. They do bargain, when it comes to investing their money. Saving a few bucks on hookers doesn't make any sense to them.

I did not compare Bogota vs Medellin, do you have reading comprehension issues? And how does high mileage relate to this comparison? Makes zero sense to me. If a chick fucks 2-5 guys per day, 4-5 times a week she is doing it full time and is high mileage. This has nothing to do with rotation between the cities or clubs.

[MiamiBoy1]

Why didn't you say that? If I'm trying to say a particular restaurant has excellent Thai food I don't spend 15 minutes talking about Chinese restaurants and Mexican restaurants where I didn't care for the food. I certainly don't then go on and declare that every Chinese and Mexican restaurant has shitty food, meanwhile failing to ever mention the restaurant I'm promoting.

It's of very little use to only report about things you don't like and don't want to do. If you're getting better GFE elsewhere in Bogota, for a reasonable price, why not report on that? Where's the report about your session with an Instagram 10, who has 15 k followers, for 200 k? For the guys who want to follow in your footsteps, knowing what you do and how you do it is better than reading sweeping generalizations about what you aren't interested in.

I don't post trip reports because they are of no value. I don't share contacts, and I don't post girls' photos on a public forum. I mainly use Seeking and Tinder, and much less FB and Insta. There is no one magic place where you find GFE for reasonable price. I prefer to stick to online platforms. If your Spanish is good, approaching girls at malls, gyms, etc is a good option. Recently I have been relying on my old contacts rather than looking for new girls. Insta 10 for 200 k? Not happening, don't be delusional.

Haven't seen any of your reports either. Most of your posts are about promoting street scene, and attacking posters who you think overpay, or pay more than you do.

[JjBee62]

What I am trying to say, is that one can venture outside of SF, and have a much more pleasant GFE experience for a reasonable price.

Why didn't you say that? If I'm trying to say a particular restaurant has excellent Thai food I don't spend 15 minutes talking about Chinese restaurants and Mexican restaurants where I didn't care for the food. I certainly don't then go on and declare that every Chinese and Mexican restaurant has shitty food, meanwhile failing to ever mention the restaurant I'm promoting.

It's of very little use to only report about things you don't like and don't want to do. If you're getting better GFE elsewhere in Bogota, for a reasonable price, why not report on that? Where's the report about your session with an Instagram 10, who has 15 k followers, for 200 k? For the guys who want to follow in your footsteps, knowing what you do and how you do it is better than reading sweeping generalizations about what you aren't interested in.

[JjBee62]

You are aware that SARS CoV isn't the same virus as SARS-CoV-2 and that the article you quote was published in 2005?

I'm sure with your extensive knowledge of virology you can refute the following article (I sure as hell can't).

https://academic.oup.com/jmcb/article/13/3/175/6163292

Windex is effective at preventing the spread of (insert favorite virus) in cell cultures. However, preventing spread in cell cultures isn't the same as preventing or treating a disease.

[Villainy]

Chloroquine is effective in preventing the spread of SARS CoV in cell culture. Favorable inhibition of virus spread was observed when the cells were either treated with chloroquine prior to or after SARS CoV infection.

Whether HCQ works or not is up for debate, but there is research saying it might and only a Democratic douche like yourself would say it does not.

You are aware that SARS CoV isn't the same virus as SARS-CoV-2 and that the article you quote was published in 2005?

I'm sure with your extensive knowledge of virology you can refute the following article (I sure as hell can't).

https://academic.oup.com/jmcb/article/13/3/175/6163292

You may not understand something here. Elvis is the world's foremost authority on everything. Just ask him. He hasn't been to college but he is an expert in the fields of virology, immunology and epidemiology.

I guess because Chloroquine works on CoVid in a culture, it is the solution. Of course bleach and anti-freeze would also probably kill the virus as well but might, just might be harmful to the host organism. A concept that seems to have eluded our resident know-it-all.