Stupid Shit in Bogota

[Mr Enternational]

LOL. A buddy of mine that I met from this board is Asian American. None of that shit happened to him in Medellin. Same with a Filipino buddy that I work with. They were just like anybody else there. Hilarious.

[Balboa]

I get emotional because I have a low tolerance for incompetence. I have no patience with people who, for whatever reason, spread complete bullshit.

I've been hangin in Colombia / Medellin for over 20 years now.

As a generalization, the humble Colombianos could care less about race, skin color, etc.

They truly have bigger problems and concerns.

When I've encountered any type of racism, it was from the occasional snooty look from some of the more aristocratic types in the more affluent areas, as I enjoy the company of the morenas, and beautiful chocolate latinas, and I'm a light skin guy.

Obviously I've never walked in this Asian poster's shoes, however, I'd be be surprised to actually see la gente in el Centro treating him poorly because of his race.

To be honest, the most I ever hear about an Asian guy is when they've called a few of my Asian buddies, "Chino lindo", however, it was definitely endearing.

The poster may have been having a bad and unlucky day, because I can't imagine why anyone would make that stuff up.

Like I said, I've never walked in his shoes.

[JjBee62]

First of all I did not write about Bogota. Secondly, thank you for your opinion. I don't call your opinion garbage but I disagree with it. Your opinion was based on the second hand info rather than a direct observation or experiments. What makes you so emotional? You are welcome to call my response garbage again, if that will solve your anger. Thanks.

First of all, the admins moved it to this thread. I had no input on that. Secondly, I call your opinion garbage because it's garbage. If it had any validity whatsoever, I wouldn't call it garbage. Develop better opinions.

My opinion was based on around 400 hours spent in El Centro, over about 5 months. I was there at all times between 9 am and 11 pm. The few times I was there after 11 pm I taxied in and out, so my opportunity to observe anything on the street was limited.

Granted, I did not directly observe anyone behaving in the manner you described. Nor did I hear of anyone behaving in that way towards any Asians. In fact, other than a couple of hookers along Veracruz that tried to grab onto me, and one hooker that succeeded in grabbing a guy I was walking with, I didn't see any gringo, white, black or Asian accosted in any way remotely close to what you say happens constantly.

I get emotional because I have a low tolerance for incompetence. I have no patience with people who, for whatever reason, spread complete bullshit.

[Blue Touch]

Yes my observations are the same and I have spent considerable time in both Medellin and Bogota, the average even barrio brat cares little about race and I have never seen any ill will nor poking fun of countless chinos I have seen and some of whom befriended anywhere in Colombia.

The Tall Man.

Thanks. My observation suggests otherwise. I will keep studying it.

[Blue Touch]

First of all I did not write about Bogota. Secondly, thank you for your opinion. I don't call your opinion garbage but I disagree with it. Your opinion was based on the second hand info rather than a direct observation or experiments. What makes you so emotional? You are welcome to call my response garbage again, if that will solve your anger. Thanks.

I'm going to nominate this post for this year's "Complete Bullshit Award."

Seriously? That's a load of garbage. I was fortunate enough to meet and hang out with a few different guys with Asian heritage. All of them spent at least some time in El Centro. Not one of them mentioned anything like that, or showed any hesitation to visit El Centro. I've also seen dozens of Asian tourists in Plaza Botero, since I enjoy sitting there and people watching.

Majority of Colombians, especially low estrato Colombians, don't give half a fuck about race. All of the conversations I have had with Colombians showed they couldn't understand why the US is so hung up on race.

[The Tall Man]

Almost every bloc and every 10 mnts you walk at Botero or P Bolivar, idiots will bother or mess with you if you are Asian. They do to you things they don't do to white gringos. They yell at you "Chino", try to grab your arm, make slanted eyes to you, say "Chin Chon Chan" (they mean to pretend speaking Chinese), want to start a fight with you, etc. They think its funny and they think that will make them better than you. If you walk with white persons, these pathetic don't do these to you. Some Asians told me that its because of these idiots, rather than crime, its not worth spending time in Centro. Majority of Colombians, specially those in low strata, are racist and sexist, and just like other racists in general, they don't know that they are.

I'm going to nominate this post for this year's "Complete Bullshit Award."

Seriously? That's a load of garbage. I was fortunate enough to meet and hang out with a few different guys with Asian heritage. All of them spent at least some time in El Centro. Not one of them mentioned anything like that, or showed any hesitation to visit El Centro. I've also seen dozens of Asian tourists in Plaza Botero, since I enjoy sitting there and people watching.

Majority of Colombians, especially low estrato Colombians, don't give half a fuck about race. All of the conversations I have had with Colombians showed they couldn't understand why the US is so hung up on race.

Yes my observations are the same and I have spent considerable time in both Medellin and Bogota, the average even barrio brat cares little about race and I have never seen any ill will nor poking fun of countless chinos I have seen and some of whom befriended anywhere in Colombia.

The Tall Man.

[JjBee62]

Almost every bloc and every 10 mnts you walk at Botero or P Bolivar, idiots will bother or mess with you if you are Asian. They do to you things they don't do to white gringos. They yell at you "Chino", try to grab your arm, make slanted eyes to you, say "Chin Chon Chan" (they mean to pretend speaking Chinese), want to start a fight with you, etc. They think its funny and they think that will make them better than you. If you walk with white persons, these pathetic don't do these to you. Some Asians told me that its because of these idiots, rather than crime, its not worth spending time in Centro. Majority of Colombians, specially those in low strata, are racist and sexist, and just like other racists in general, they don't know that they are.

I'm going to nominate this post for this year's "Complete Bullshit Award."

Seriously? That's a load of garbage. I was fortunate enough to meet and hang out with a few different guys with Asian heritage. All of them spent at least some time in El Centro. Not one of them mentioned anything like that, or showed any hesitation to visit El Centro. I've also seen dozens of Asian tourists in Plaza Botero, since I enjoy sitting there and people watching.

Majority of Colombians, especially low estrato Colombians, don't give half a fuck about race. All of the conversations I have had with Colombians showed they couldn't understand why the US is so hung up on race.

[Blue Touch]

Almost every bloc and every 10 mnts you walk at Botero or P Bolivar, idiots will bother or mess with you if you are Asian. They do to you things they don't do to white gringos. They yell at you "Chino", try to grab your arm, make slanted eyes to you, say "Chin Chon Chan" (they mean to pretend speaking Chinese), want to start a fight with you, etc. They think its funny and they think that will make them better than you. If you walk with white persons, these pathetic don't do these to you. Some Asians told me that its because of these idiots, rather than crime, its not worth spending time in Centro. Majority of Colombians, specially those in low strata, are racist and sexist, and just like other racists in general, they don't know that they are.

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[JjBee62]

What are the criteria in selecting stupid posts? What quality makes you most eligible person to determine if posts are stupid or not? Thank you.

1. Ownership. Their board, their rules, their decisions. They decide based upon what they think is best for the board. Not everyone will agree, but it's a private business, not a democracy. We don't get to vote on it.

2. Experience. They sort through 100's of stupid posts every day and need to decide which ones to block, which ones to comment on and which ones to move to a thread like this one.

[Blue Touch]

What are the criteria in selecting stupid posts? What quality makes you most eligible person to determine if posts are stupid or not? Thank you.

Thread Starter.

[KilledSoul]

Rates? I'm pretty sure the ladrones in both Santa Fe and El Centro, offer their service free of any surcharges. If one of them tries to charge you extra for robbing you, I'd refuse the service and look for a different thief.

Agree with you. My standard rate is an iPhone X. I refuse the service if they want my credit card too.

[Riina]

It depends entirely on you behaviour.

Yep, all in your behavior. That's why hipsters and non profit workers can rent and live in sketchy hoods and never have a problem.

[JjBee62]

I am looking for robbery rates in Santa Fe district and in Chapinero vs. Those in El Centro and other districts in Medellin. If you know credible figures, please let me know. No thanks for the city-wide rates. They are at everywhere. Thanks.

Rates? I'm pretty sure the ladrones in both Santa Fe and El Centro, offer their service free of any surcharges. If one of them tries to charge you extra for robbing you, I'd refuse the service and look for a different thief.

[Blue Touch]

Although I'm amazed by your deep knowledge and the recommendations nobody could ever offer, I just want stats.

It also depends what you look like. If you look weak and dumb gringo who doesn't know what he is doing, you are going to be a target. I for one didn't have any problem in Santa Fe and felt safe but few weeks ago an Asian guy from this forum was robbed of his iPhone X.

My advice would be, fuck statistics because it depends on the individual. If you look like a tough Latino you won't be messed with. But if you are really dumb you can be robbed in El Poblado too.

My advice:

1. Have the mindset of "Glass is already broken" I. E "You are going to be robbed" so keep your cards and iPhone at room and only take minimum cash and a cheap phone to Santa Fe.

2. Take help of a senior member on this forum for first few trips to Santa Fe. Woodman09 seems to be recommended on the forum..

[KangarooTed]

It also depends what you look like. If you look weak and dumb gringo who doesn't know what he is doing, you are going to be a target. I for one didn't have any problem in Santa Fe and felt safe but few weeks ago an Asian guy from this forum was robbed of his iPhone X.

My advice would be, fuck statistics because it depends on the individual.

Yes, that's what I said.

The statistics aren't relevant to the poster, but if he wants to make himself one, all he has to do is wave his iPhone around like the other guy.