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08-25-19 02:35 #37
Posts: 1749Originally Posted by JjBee62 [View Original Post]
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08-24-19 23:17 #36
Posts: 425Originally Posted by GeneHickman [View Original Post]
Free competitive markets are a core liberal tenet. "Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but they generally support limited government, individual rights (including civil rights and human rights), capitalism (free markets), democracy, secularism, gender equality, racial equality, internationalism, freedom of speech. ".
Trump was writing the same things about Japan in 1987 and I believe he was wrong about the outcome then as he is now. "For decades, Japan and other nations have been taking advantage of the United States," Trump wrote. (See attached).
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08-24-19 17:21 #35
Posts: 407Originally Posted by Arcangel [View Original Post]
And I am asking this question in a genuinely non partisan way.
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08-24-19 16:36 #34
Posts: 3202Originally Posted by Arcangel [View Original Post]
I think every monger has had his heart broken and paying for it is a way to prevent one's self from being hurt. I hope it works out. Everyone from afar thought what I was doing was crazy, but everyone who met us had a different opinion. I just met a lady whom I didn't bed who says that she won't date anyone under 50, and she is 28. She just likes hanging around older people. She can't stand the conversations she has with people of her own age. There are women who do want older men and not just for the money.
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08-24-19 14:20 #33
Posts: 5446Originally Posted by Arcangel [View Original Post]
Rather than go through a lot of explanations, I will just recommend that you keep a touch of skepticism. When these affairs fall apart the financial damage is the least of the problems.
BTW. Expect to get several nasty responses. A significant percentage of mongers are Trump fans.
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08-24-19 14:02 #32
Posts: 127Same same
Originally Posted by IronQuinn [View Original Post]
For those not too familiar with US popular culture: Melania Trump is a minor character in a reality TV drama that is shown daily on all channels in the US. The lead character is modelled closely on Hugo Chavez: he presents himself as the leader of a patriotic revolutionary movement, says his country has been treated badly but he will put it first, make it great and help the ordinary man. He polarizes the country, makes it turn in on itself so that he becomes stonger amid the division, disfunctionality and infighting. He thinks his mission is more important than the constitution and democracy, he only believes in elections where he wins. His followers attend raucous rallies where they adore him like the Messiah, many of them have guns and will use them to terrorize ordinary people. Unfortunately, his understanding of economics is badly flawed and his confrontational policies are doing serious damage. Blinded by his ideology, he blames all problems on other people. Because of inertia, short-termist policies, and the existing riches of the country, the economy seems to be booming for the first few years of his reign, but then things start going south.
Tune in again next week for the latest installment. Or for spoilers tune into news from Venezuela.
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08-22-19 17:02 #31
Posts: 5446Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
Your posts almost always make me smile. I spent about 10 years living that life, just on a smaller scale. I had a girl into S and M in New York, a swinger in Phoenix, an anal party girl in Denver, a foot fetish girl in Dallas and a public sex chick in Eugene, Oregon. Wherever else I went, I could usually find someone. All free, many would cook me dinner. Some were just dates, dinner or a movie. Some started as dates but ended in bed. Some were nothing but sex.
Spent a 3 day weekend in a beachfront suite in Virginia Beach with a girl from Kentucky. Her boyfriend had rented the room, but couldn't get there until Tuesday. My best run was 6 girls in 5 states over 7 days.
All of them knew I wasn't available. Almost all of them knew they weren't the only one. It was fun at the time. There were a couple, looking back, that I wish I'd made a commitment to.
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08-22-19 15:45 #30
Posts: 15905Originally Posted by JjBee62 [View Original Post]
Last October I had brought one of my girlfriends in Bogota some bluetooth headphones. We had gotten back from a trip to Villa de Leyva and she went to sleep. When she is sleeping I am quiet as a mouse. She gets up the next morning and puts on her headphones and is dancing all around and singing all loud while I am trying to sleep. So I wake up and make a business call. She continued singing all loud. I said shhhh trying to get her to quiet down. She sat on the bed and pouted. When I hung up she gave me the 3rd degree saying her dad does not even tell her to be quiet and if I do it again she will just go home. I said don't do me any favors; you can just go now. She didn't go so I went and took a shower and packed my things up and told her to turn in the key as I walked out the door. You don't fucking threaten me. Since then she has apologized and when I was in Bogota last month she came by and we went to eat and stuff.
Most chicks know that I have other chicks although I will never admit to it. I will just say something like tell me her name since you know so much. No evidence, no charge. Hell, even when there is evidence there is no charge. I will be home in Thailand and riding with some chick on my bike and one of my other chicks will send me a message talking about they saw me with some lady. I will say well why didn't you say Hello, then? Then the next day I will be going to stay over that chick's house.
One funny story. Last year I had been dealing with one chick for about a year. I was fooling around on Tinder and met another chick that works at a massage parlor and started fucking her. She said it would be her birthday soon. One night the first chick told me she was going to her friend's birthday party at a disco. Later on she sent me a picture of her partying with her friend. Well it kind of looked like the second girl, but I could not be sure. So I asked if her friend works at the mall with her. She said no, she does massage. I said yeah I know. She was like how do you know? I said I know her. Then she told me that the second girl had to leave because her boyfriend from Dubai or some damn where was going to call. The second chick found out that I was messing with the first chick and tried to cut it off even though she never told me she had a boyfriend. I said we are not cutting anything off. The first girl had already told me it was fine by her for me to mess with her friend too as long as I was happy. The second girl promised that she would not see me again and I told her that we would see about that. Next thing I know she is asking when we are going to the beach and coming to spend the night. To this day I can still call either one of them when I want to see them. And all these are just normal free chicks.
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08-22-19 13:04 #29
Posts: 127Limited risk exposure
Jjbee, you're welcome to be a skeptic. I value your comments, you are one of the most consistently knowledgeable, helpful and sensible contributors to this forum. And you're welcome to say "I told you so" in the future, but what exactly is it you're telling me?
I think you are making a number of assumptions which are incorrect.
I'm not saying I'm about to marry this girl. I don't know how this relationship will develop or how long it will last, but I'm giving it a chance and enjoying it while it lasts. If she starts being a pain in the ass, I can move on. I know I can replace her at any time. But who knows, if she develops into a keeper, so much the better.
Originally Posted by JjBee62 [View Original Post]
When I'm looking for P4 P I go to a casa and pay 50 k, or I look for a freelancer on mileroticos. I use SA as a dating site which is full of young women looking for older men. I think SA is just as honest as any other dating site, there's nothing dishonest about older men having more money than young women.
On any dating site it is clear that sex is on the cards. On SA there is also the expectation that the guy will provide material support in some form. But that doesn't necessarily make it P4 P, rather it is to some extent the norm in most societies, including latin america. Maybe in the US people see SA as more simply P4 P.
What those women on SA in Colombia and Venezuela are looking for varies. A few are looking for something like a committed relationship. I had one of those, until recently when she got very upset when I said I was meeting someone new. More girls want open relationships or occasional dates with remuneration, gifts or support. Many, I guess, are just testing the waters. Do you have any experience on SA are are talking about your assumptions?
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But I do want to take her travelling. The problem with most other girls is that they have commitments like work or children, or they charge by the hour or by the day. They have a life and they need me to add some cash to their life. This girl is free of commitments and she wants to spend her time with me.
Originally Posted by JjBee62 [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by JjBee62 [View Original Post]
I recently met a Colombian friend of a friend with his girlfriend. He looks around 30, she looks around 60. I don't know what it is that creates a bond between them, but if they're both happy, more power to them.
Originally Posted by JjBee62 [View Original Post]
The most serious consquence imaginable would be pregnancy, birth, child support, inheritance. So the plan is birthcontrol followed by TLN DFK BBFS CIP.
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08-21-19 12:10 #28
Posts: 5446Originally Posted by Arcangel [View Original Post]
Mr. E's logic is impeccable, for Me. E's situation. His girlfriends are temps. When he's in a city where he has one, he spends time with that one. Neither has to adapt, because each visit is a honeymoon. If one starts being a pain in the ass, he just moves on. He knows he can replace her at any time. There's no long term commitment. Let me know if I'm wrong.
Much of what you say is true. Economic strata, as well as political and religious views are areas of difficulty. However, in a domestic situation those issues are obvious before any relationship begins. You're mostly exposed to a dating pool from your economic level. If you're religious, you are around women from your religion. You'll normally be at odds with women who hold opposing political views. There are natural filters to steer you.
However, this isn't a domestic situation. You met the girl from SA. Seeking Arrangements. Last year. You were looking for P4P. For several months, at least 8, she's been on SA, and you're the first one she has connected with? I'm just a skeptic.
So I'll ask the hard questions. She was apparently able to survive, without ever doing P4P, for the better part of a year. Not only that, she was able to do well enough to relocate to Bogota, all through an acceptable, non-P4P, source of income. Why would she now need money, from you, to survive on? Was she only being paid to be a virgin and fucking you got her fired?
How did she get on SA in the first place? I could understand Latin American Cupid. That's a mostly honest dating site. But SA? It's pretty clear that it's set up for women looking for men who will pay them for companionship. She's intelligent and well educated, but couldn't figure out SA is for P4P? And not one guy messaged her and brought up the subject of money for sex?
What woman is going to hop on a bus to go spend a week with someone she's never met, without understanding that sex is the only reason the guy is bringing her to him? How does she justify leaving whatever she's doing to support herself, unless she sees a chance to improve her situation?
Where does culture come into play? You spent a week with her, in a hotel or apartment, in a city foreign to both of you. And you're convinced that you've found the love of your life, who is at least 30 years younger than you.
You had a short term relationship that was centered around sex. Cultural differences never came into play. Wait until you take her back to the US and everyone starts whispering behind her back. Wait until your friends start trying to fuck her when you're not around, because they figure if she'll fuck you, she'll fuck them. Wait until you both have to endure the looks of disgust from everyone. Wait until she comes home crying, because some redneck in Walmart told her to go back to her country.
Or are you planning to move to Colombia? That would be the best bet, but not without difficulty.
Unless you're considering one of those 2 options, you're not getting into a long term relationship. You're buying a time share. You sleep there 2 weeks, or 2 months a year. Except you're paying for the bed all year round and you're convinced that bed will be empty whenever you're not in it.
How much will you pay? $300 per month? $500? More? What happens when she needs another $300 or $500 because she's sick, her phone is broken, her brother got arrested. What happens when you see her picture on here from some guy bragging about the hot Venezuelan who had never done P4P before?
It's your money. How you spend it is your business. I'm just saying Caveat Emptor.
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07-05-19 16:53 #27
Posts: 284Imagine Asian or African guys insisting that they know the experience of being caucasians and their knowledge is better than the Caucasians' knowledge on the subject.
The issue is about a study if an alleged social phenomenon exists or not, rather than advocating or discouraging something. So, perhaps the issue needs to be studied with relevant indicators and methods without bias, and without angry denial, predetermination, mob-rule or retaliation?
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07-05-19 16:15 #26
Posts: 15905Originally Posted by BangoCheito [View Original Post]
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07-05-19 15:07 #25
Posts: 284That's a very through social research with objective measurements and analysis. Thanks.
Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
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07-05-19 14:46 #24
Posts: 5446Originally Posted by BangoCheito [View Original Post]
I've had too many Uber drivers get 3 blocks away and then cancel. Had a few taxis in Medellin who hadn't reset the meter and a few where the meter ended up higher than it should have been. In each case it cost me less than 3 k and taught me to pay more attention.
If you're a frequent traveler, getting a Schwab or similar account that refunds all ATM fees, is a smart move. If you only travel occasionally, rarely withdraw cash from ATMs and want the simplicity and service of a local bank, then it might not be worthwhile.
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07-05-19 09:32 #23
Posts: 1281Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]