Stupid Shit in Bogota

[TiaVoyage25]

No offense or disrespect.

Great post I guess this settles it, you say you didn't get robbed or stabbed nor did Woodman therefore it must be safe for me and all others.

Muchas gracias for your assurances.

Post script I love the way you politely call someone a liar, pure gold.

I thought about being argumentative and highlighting your use of a logical fallacy, but that isn't really helpful to anyone.

So I'll just go ahead and clarify that just because my fortunes have been good so far does not mean that this place is safe. Danger lurks on every corner and mongers should take appropriate cautions to minimize risks. I could go out tonight and get robbed or worse. You never know.

When I write my Newbie's Guide I'll make sure to highlight some tips I have regarding safety, as well as point out the real dangers that do exist.

[PedroMorales]

I've done some pretty risky shit for sex. Walking into dead end brothels in Vietnam, check, getting mugged in Latin America, check; bonking by mortar fire, check. I haven't yet fucked a chica in a polar bear enclosure but all good things in time.

Firstly if SF isn't 3rd world I don't know what is.

In case you didn't know Colombia is a 3rd world country.

Did I say it was extremely dangerous? Learn how to read.

"Some of us are willing to die for adventure, risk taking and danger is what we seek".

If this is how you feel than go for it, if you are so desperate you'll die for a little pussy have at it, just don't mislead / lead others here to danger.

So where is my fear mongering? Not agreeing SF is extremely safe is fear mongering? Are you high or drunk?

[MarquisdeSade1]

No disrespect or offense intended, as I know without a doubt that these things happen. But on Election Day? Police were swarming EVERYWHERE and I mean on every square block, especially close to the voting booths. This election has serious implications and I read a lot about how security would be greater than usual. And I saw it. I don't know where specifically your novia's brother was walking and one can, of course, be robbed anywhere.

That being said, I have to ask. Did your novia ask you for money after this event? Again, no disrespect intended. With 40% of the population living below the poverty line people are very desperate and crime has certainly increased. Just the other day a girl on SA told me she was robbed and straight up asked me to buy her an iPhone 12. I nearly pissed myself laughing before blocking her.

In any case, the takeaway for any monger is to always be on your guard because if your novia's brother was indeed robbed, it is just further evidence that it can happen to anyone.

No offense or disrespect.

Great post I guess this settles it, you say you didn't get robbed or stabbed nor did Woodman therefore it must be safe for me and all others.

Muchas gracias for your assurances.

Post script I love the way you politely call someone a liar, pure gold.

[TiaVoyage25]

My Novias brother was working in the voting polls yesterday, in Colombia if they solicit you to work the voting in Colombia you need to go or they fine you or worse. So her brother was instructed to go work in Suba, another dangerous area, his last phone was robbed so he was using his mothers phone yesterday to stay in contact with the family. He was very aggressively robbed by 3 guys, Venezuelans, at gun point and he was dressed as a local duh. No Jewelry bla bla bla A street savvy guy 24 yrs old, near the voting area. Then one guy held the gun to his head while the other 2 ripped his pockets open looking for money and stole the phone and a few pesos he had for the transmillenio. Now no phone for him or mommy. He went to a relatives house in Suba to sleep and that was the last I heard.

Listen please. People around, doesn't mean A THING, night time day time none of it is a guarantee you will be safe. Bogota, in general is a very dangerous city now. It was dangerous 10 years ago but exponentially more so in the last 3 years. I use to think it was dangerous to walk around Rua Djalma Ulrich around the corner from Help, in Copa but that was a walk in the park compared to these days in Bogota. Hopefully my experiences in Bogota will keep some guys safe and I'm sure others will thing they know it all and will continue to defy the odds but nobody knows when or where it will happen but it WILL happen sooner or later.

No disrespect or offense intended, as I know without a doubt that these things happen. But on Election Day? Police were swarming EVERYWHERE and I mean on every square block, especially close to the voting booths. This election has serious implications and I read a lot about how security would be greater than usual. And I saw it. I don't know where specifically your novia's brother was walking and one can, of course, be robbed anywhere.

That being said, I have to ask. Did your novia ask you for money after this event? Again, no disrespect intended. With 40% of the population living below the poverty line people are very desperate and crime has certainly increased. Just the other day a girl on SA told me she was robbed and straight up asked me to buy her an iPhone 12. I nearly pissed myself laughing before blocking her.

In any case, the takeaway for any monger is to always be on your guard because if your novia's brother was indeed robbed, it is just further evidence that it can happen to anyone.

[Frogg]

Firstly if SF isn't 3rd world I don't know what is.

In case you didn't know Colombia is a 3rd world country.

Did I say it was extremely dangerous? Learn how to read.

"Some of us are willing to die for adventure, risk taking and danger is what we seek".

If this is how you feel than go for it, if you are so desperate you'll die for a little pussy have at it, just don't mislead / lead others here to danger.

So where is my fear mongering? Not agreeing SF is extremely safe is fear mongering? Are you high or drunk?

There's no debate about Colombia being a 3rd world country, if that term still has any meaning since it is a Cold War reliq. Now the proper term is developing country.

You are the one misleading people about the danger level of the main strip of Santa Fe. I see people of all walks of life there, including regular normal people, young & old, mothers with children, even at night. If it's so dangerous, what are they doing there?

I said some people risk their lives for adventure, in a general sense, not just for pussy. Some of us are adrenaline junkies, seek danger for excitement sake. We are not all cowered into staying in the basement, even in the face of real legitimate danger.

During the covid pandemic, for instance, I still kept traveling and partying. If it cost my life and valuables so be it. Because, guess what: being alive is dangerous!

Like any major metropolian city, Bogota will have its fare share of crime. If people post here every mugging and murder, we would never run out of that material. This isn't the homicide / mugging blog. There should be a seperate thread for crime security in Bogota.

[MarquisdeSade1]

We are not talking about the 3rd world, but a certain neigborhood in a certain city. We are trying to find an accurate measure: extremely safe or extremely dangerous is not true of Santa Fe but somewhere in between. So called 1st world country the United States has cities with dangerous neighboorhoods where people are killed regularly. I feel safer in Santa Fe than in many areas of Los Angeles my hometown. Some of us are willing to die for adventure, risk taking and danger is what we seek. So stop the fear mongering. If you are afraid of Santa Fe and of Colombia then stay home and bake cookies.

Firstly if SF isn't 3rd world I don't know what is.

In case you didn't know Colombia is a 3rd world country.

Did I say it was extremely dangerous? Learn how to read.

"Some of us are willing to die for adventure, risk taking and danger is what we seek".

If this is how you feel than go for it, if you are so desperate you'll die for a little pussy have at it, just don't mislead / lead others here to danger.

So where is my fear mongering? Not agreeing SF is extremely safe is fear mongering? Are you high or drunk?

[Frogg]

Beware of anyone that calls any 3rd world RLD "It's extremely safe".

I've been there and think anyone that thinks its extremely safe is a fool and is going to find it isn't.

Telling the whole world on ISG SF is extremely safe is extremely reckless at best.

We are not talking about the 3rd world, but a certain neigborhood in a certain city. We are trying to find an accurate measure: extremely safe or extremely dangerous is not true of Santa Fe but somewhere in between. So called 1st world country the United States has cities with dangerous neighboorhoods where people are killed regularly. I feel safer in Santa Fe than in many areas of Los Angeles my hometown. Some of us are willing to die for adventure, risk taking and danger is what we seek. So stop the fear mongering. If you are afraid of Santa Fe and of Colombia then stay home and bake cookies.

[Voodoo Jones]

What the hell is going on with the all the in-fighting in this thread? Who cares how people spend their time and efforts as long as we're having fun. Some people want short flings, others want something more. This would be my first time taking a solo trip of this kind, so I have a couple prospects for both categories. Maybe some will work out, some won't, but that's part of the game and I'll learn for next time.

[Blue Touch]

What a Ridiculous post-- Not sure where you were-- No one is walking / working while sick in Santa Fe. You obviously have some covid neurosis going on-- Not sure why you would even come to Colombia the way you are.

You have been promoting Santa Fe and presenting a very optimistic picture of the area for your business of guiding for gringos in Santa Fe.

I presented an unbiased and neutral description of the area and my buddies agree with the description. There are so many sick people there, and other posters, including you, agree with it. You mentioned that you were infected with covid more than 4 times. I wish good luck for your guiding business in Santa Fe, but people need to read unbiased and accurate information.

Had covid several times, still here like 99.9% of the population who have had it.

A lot of people do not wear masks people here are not neurotic like in the US. I had caught covid again about 10 days ago. Guess it was the omicron? Basically like the a couple of the times before I have been sick it was a bad flu for 24 hours. Like the Majority of the Billions who have had it.

I think the viagra I use helps with my recovery thinning the blood and breaking down microclots I have read.

[Woodman09]

As other posts said, very few people wear masks in Santa Fe and many people are sick. People and the girls are sniffing and coughing, and they stand / sit right next to you in bars / restaurants and on the street. They spit and throw runny nose on street, and they don't care if it will hit you. Very few of these people go to clinics and take Covid tests. Hotel employees are sick too.

The area is windy and dusty, and there are many unclean guys. The girls are cheap- US $ 8-15. I am not sure if it's worth even if it's free.

What a Ridiculous post-- Not sure where you were-- No one is walking / working while sick in Santa Fe. You obviously have some covid neurosis going on-- Not sure why you would even come to Colombia the way you are.

[Blue Touch]

As other posts said, very few people wear masks in Santa Fe and many people are sick. People and the girls are sniffing and coughing, and they stand / sit right next to you in bars / restaurants and on the street. They spit and throw runny nose on street, and they don't care if it will hit you. Very few of these people go to clinics and take Covid tests. Hotel employees are sick too.

The area is windy and dusty, and there are many unclean guys. The girls are cheap- US $ 8-15. I am not sure if it's worth even if it's free.

[Elvis 2008]

What are you trying to prove here? That someone who has no game should refrain from using Seeking? That someone who uses Seeking to find hos is a loser? What made you think that I'm a "failure with seeking"? The fact that I was not able to score freebies? Look, my goal has always been to meet attractive young women and have a great time with them, in and out of bedroom. And that has been accomplished many times, I have had a good number of great dates since I started using SA. It has been a bumpy ride though, I've been flaked on, I've met girls that did not look like pics, girls that did not deliver, etc. These are very common issues every SA member faces on a regular basis. Despite these issues, my overall experience with Seeking was not bad at all, I have built a small stable of girls with whom I have good chemistry in each city. I do not consider all of this a failure, rather a learning curve.

LOL. And now you are trying to be a sugar daddy? What happened to all the women were hos? If you go trashing SA and saying what you are, there is a much bigger risk of them being shut down, and that is not in your interest. I do not think you should underestimate the will of the anti-trafficking crowd.

On top of that, look at the morons you attracted with there "all women are WGs and cannot be trusted" schtick. Being in an arrangement with women is based on trust and spouting off this all women are not trustworthy crap is hurting the chances of men here being open minded and getting in a great arrangement like I have. And when you are screaming "all women are hos", you are not only insulting my current gal and my mother but your own. Is your mother a ho? Then why say it?

Of course, this is loser speak. The guys who cannot work out relationships with women scream that and blame women for their own shortcomings. Yes, there are women who will lie, steal you blind ETC, but if you do not learn from those experiences, you are not going to recognize and appreciate the ones who are not like that. Every woman I have ever met hates it when put on pedestals or called evil. The women want to be known not labeled.

And stop with all this alpha "I am going to tell it like is". How many times did you bluster forth and say you had to pay to have a woman come see you? Two? Three? And then a woman comes and sees you without an agreement to be paid up front. Do you say you were wrong? Of course not. You bullshit again after you cannot close the deal with all the women are hos.

Look, MB, you have the intelligence, the drive, and the money to get where I am, but you are a complete fucking pussy when it comes the endurance. Instead of taking the girl's rejection as a learning experience, you rail on the woman which is what a loser does and go back to your bitching which no one wants to hear. Why couldn't you close the deal? And do not start with this "I am fine with it" crap. You would not have wined and dined her and pursued her if that was true. And if she was a 100% ho, she would have wanted a price up front.

I know why you failed. You tried your bullshit alpha "let me tell you how it is" crap, and she charged you 250 k for the sex and 50 k for having to listen to you and pretend to be one of your fake beta followers.

Instead of just saying "you are hot" and I want you for a sugar baby, you should be assessing her, kicking the tires, looking for flaws. You are a daddy looking to adopt, making an investment of time and money. What do I want from her? An arrangement? A quick lay? Or nothing?

In most cases, I did not even have to offer anything to the women. All the women had to do was meet me and see I was not full of shit in most cases.

And what are you doing? The worst thing you can do, bullshitting. Last post excluded, all your previous posts on SA fall in the category of bullshit. You know how you can never be accused of being a bullshit artist? By asking questions, saying little, and listening. The women are not hos; they just think you are a bullshit artist, and the irony is you are not, but you sure as hell come across as one.

[DramaFree11]

What are you trying to prove here? That someone who has no game should refrain from using Seeking? That someone who uses Seeking to find hos is a loser? What made you think that I'm a "failure with seeking"? The fact that I was not able to score freebies? Look, my goal has always been to meet attractive young women and have a great time with them, in and out of bedroom. And that has been accomplished many times, I have had a good number of great dates since I started using SA. It has been a bumpy ride though, I've been flaked on, I've met girls that did not look like pics, girls that did not deliver, etc. These are very common issues every SA member faces on a regular basis. Despite these issues, my overall experience with Seeking was not bad at all, I have built a small stable of girls with whom I have good chemistry in each city. I do not consider all of this a failure, rather a learning curve. There is a recent report in the Medellin thread by Maximus, who had been using SA exclusively during his last trip. I'm doing exactly the same, finding and meeting GFE providers off SA, because we are both not into El Centro / SF / casas / strip clubs scene. He also had a few issues, especially with communication, a few bad dates, but his overall experience was decent. There is nothing wrong with paying $100/ month SA membership to procure GFE services, which are hard to find elsewhere. You and Dramafree need to relax and understand that not each and every monger has game, social skills and time to score freebies, and that SA is a much better alternative to street / casa action.

Dramafree, do you know why your posts are removed my the admin on a regular basis? And yeah, yeah, we already know, Moscow, Mexico rock, Kiev sucks, Colombian women are shit, no need to repeat this in every post.

Actually a somewhat positive and humble report, good job. Slight correction, most of my experience is with girls from MDE. I have met very few girls from Bogota and I am sure I be way more attracted to the girls there.

Yes, it is very interesting how some of my reports are being deleted. Most are complimenting people and agreeing with there post. In fact, one of the recent reports that was deleted was telling you wrote a good report. Something is obviously up. Ever since I started agreeing with Captain Reports, on Colombia, mine get deleted.

[MiamiBoy1]

You are not being a male role model. You are not being a daddy. You are being a john and are treated as such. It could not be more obvious to me why you are a failure with seeking. You have no game.

What are you trying to prove here? That someone who has no game should refrain from using Seeking? That someone who uses Seeking to find hos is a loser? What made you think that I'm a "failure with seeking"? The fact that I was not able to score freebies? Look, my goal has always been to meet attractive young women and have a great time with them, in and out of bedroom. And that has been accomplished many times, I have had a good number of great dates since I started using SA. It has been a bumpy ride though, I've been flaked on, I've met girls that did not look like pics, girls that did not deliver, etc. These are very common issues every SA member faces on a regular basis. Despite these issues, my overall experience with Seeking was not bad at all, I have built a small stable of girls with whom I have good chemistry in each city. I do not consider all of this a failure, rather a learning curve. There is a recent report in the Medellin thread by Maximus, who had been using SA exclusively during his last trip. I'm doing exactly the same, finding and meeting GFE providers off SA, because we are both not into El Centro / SF / casas / strip clubs scene. He also had a few issues, especially with communication, a few bad dates, but his overall experience was decent. There is nothing wrong with paying $100/ month SA membership to procure GFE services, which are hard to find elsewhere. You and Dramafree need to relax and understand that not each and every monger has game, social skills and time to score freebies, and that SA is a much better alternative to street / casa action.

Dramafree, do you know why your posts are removed my the admin on a regular basis? And yeah, yeah, we already know, Moscow, Mexico rock, Kiev sucks, Colombian women are shit, no need to repeat this in every post.

[Igor54]

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I have never used SA for girls. I see they have models, engineers and lawyers who can't find a nice Colombian dick and on this reason choose US aged mongers. Do SA has a psychiatrists? I need one.