Stupid Shit in Bogota

[MarquisdeSade1]

Nah now you completely lost me. So yes this is natural selection. And the lesson here is improve your metabolic health! But most Americans don't want to hear that, they want to stay fat and "strengthen their immune system" have you seen our obesity and overweight rates, they are frankly obscene. Even amongst our youth. If this isn't a wake up call I don't know what will be. As to the mutants once again the process of natural selection means the virus will morph and vaccinating 8 B people ain't happening one way or the other herd immunity is the only way out eventually and I am certain this will exist as a background risk for many years to come, so yeah it will add a small but real travel and mongering risk.

He is blueanon.

[GeneHickman]

Maybe this virus wasn't World War Z, but it coulda' been.

1) I'm fed up / amazed with the antivax bullshit. People should realize that 90% of this propaganda originates in Russian disinformation bot farms.

2) This is not about you and your healthy immune system. Maybe you will be okay. Maybe you won't get sick. Maybe you don't care about the fat people who die from it (TBH, I don't). The fact is, the more this (any) virus replicates, the more it mutates. The more it mutates, the more potentially dangerous it gets. We have to mutually crush this, or it will be around for years (f'cking up travel and mongering) and maybe get worse.

3) These vaccines are amazingly good. Got a strong immune system? Get the vaccine -- it will make it even stronger!

Nah now you completely lost me. So yes this is natural selection. And the lesson here is improve your metabolic health! But most Americans don't want to hear that, they want to stay fat and "strengthen their immune system" have you seen our obesity and overweight rates, they are frankly obscene. Even amongst our youth. If this isn't a wake up call I don't know what will be. As to the mutants once again the process of natural selection means the virus will morph and vaccinating 8 B people ain't happening one way or the other herd immunity is the only way out eventually and I am certain this will exist as a background risk for many years to come, so yeah it will add a small but real travel and mongering risk.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Maybe this virus wasn't World War Z, but it coulda' been.

1) I'm fed up / amazed with the antivax bullshit. People should realize that 90% of this propaganda originates in Russian disinformation bot farms.

Then stop watching raquel maddow on a loop and take your damn psych meds you whack job.

And yes I recd the Moderna vax in Sept of 2020 you nutcase!!

[John Clayton]

Fair enough, but what of the argument that for something with a 0. 4% mortality in the general population ...

Maybe this virus wasn't World War Z, but it coulda' been.

1) I'm fed up / amazed with the antivax bullshit. People should realize that 90% of this propaganda originates in Russian disinformation bot farms.

2) This is not about you and your healthy immune system. Maybe you will be okay. Maybe you won't get sick. Maybe you don't care about the fat people who die from it (TBH, I don't). The fact is, the more this (any) virus replicates, the more it mutates. The more it mutates, the more potentially dangerous it gets. We have to mutually crush this, or it will be around for years (f'cking up travel and mongering) and maybe get worse.

3) These vaccines are amazingly good. Got a strong immune system? Get the vaccine -- it will make it even stronger!

[GeneHickman]

You've seen the movie. Earth is attacked by an alien horde species that reproduces in humans until they burst forth by the millions, destroying their human hosts. The only way humans have to fight back is to crush every one of these alien monsters out of existence before they can mutate and reproduce. To save humanity, all people from every country of the world have to band together, in noble common cause, to smash the aliens before they can kill us. The movie always has the evil or witless collaborators who believe they can live with the aliens, deal with the aliens -- going so far as nurturing the aliens inside their bodies. Are you seeing the analogy?

To be even more clear, the vaccine is not just about your health (or your belief), this is about all of humanity. All of us. We have to crush, kill, exterminate the aliens, and it takes all of humanity to do it.

Fair enough, but what of the argument that for something with a 0. 4% mortality in the general population and perhaps far less in fit healthy adults its a personal decision whether or not to take it. Lets get real here, humanity is not threatened by is thing.

BTW for the haters, I am in my 40's and healthy with no chronic illnesses and fully intend to take the vaccine, but just not of the view that it should be forced upon people.

[John Clayton]

Better a choice of a smart guy who makes private decision about his health ...

You've seen the movie. Earth is attacked by an alien horde species that reproduces in humans until they burst forth by the millions, destroying their human hosts. The only way humans have to fight back is to crush every one of these alien monsters out of existence before they can mutate and reproduce. To save humanity, all people from every country of the world have to band together, in noble common cause, to smash the aliens before they can kill us. The movie always has the evil or witless collaborators who believe they can live with the aliens, deal with the aliens -- going so far as nurturing the aliens inside their bodies. Are you seeing the analogy?

To be even more clear, the vaccine is not just about your health (or your belief), this is about all of humanity. All of us. We have to crush, kill, exterminate the aliens, and it takes all of humanity to do it.

[TalkYes]

Which is parasitical behavior.

Whoa chill bro this isn't reddit. You're not getting Karma points for showing how woke you are. I think if he's managed to go to 8 different countries and hasn't been spreading it, that kinda goes to show how the public concern / media frenzy is not exactly proportionate to the level of care required. Don't get me wrong I'm not an anti-masker but it's nobody's social responsibility to give up all enjoyment in life. If you're travelling a lot, maybe don't visit grandma in the old folks home right when you get home. If I'm sick of anything as much as covid it's this moral high ground bullshit around it.

[Questner]

Which is parasitical behavior.

Better a choice of a smart guy who makes private decision about his health with advice of his physician based on long term safety, efficacy and effectiveness of any vaccine, and his previous exposure. Your own immune system is a best way to protect against this malady if you're healthy and under 60 year old Moreover, somehow many start to forget about the autonomy of each individual and inherent rights and freedoms, including freedom of travel.

[John Clayton]

I think I have been to 8 countries since this thing started. I have no intention of getting any shots.

Which is parasitical behavior.

[Mr Enternational]

You Guys are horny and not reading the past reports.

First get your Covid shots or.

Stay home.

I think I have been to 8 countries since this thing started. I have no intention of getting any shots.

[Routard]

Hi,

Long time lurker and I'm jumping back in the lifestyle after over 10 years inactive. Never was a hardcore hobbyist and only know a little about my local NYC scene. I'm travelling to Bogota for the 1st time in late May or June and I want to have the best info I can for when out I'm there. Any help is appreciated. Thank you for all the good post and keep up the good work.

P.S. I am doing my homework, reading post, ect. No need to remind me of that. Not looking for someone to do the work for me and I'm willing to do as much as I can on my own. I'll play nice, please do the same.

Here is a complete FAQ about Bogota:

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...562&viewfull=1#post2241562.

This was pre-covid, a lot of things have changed and will change untill you will be here.

[BigButtDetecto]

Whenever the Democrats do something stupid, and politicizing an incurable disease is really stupid, the Republicans turn it around on them and hit them with it 10 X as hard. I can now see someone with colon CA being denied care because "Well, you were stupid you didn't get a colonoscopy" or when you have a heart attack, someone saying, "Well, did you exercise every day?" You can do it for any illness but the worst is for an incurable illness. Can you imagine if doctors treated patients like Democrats have treated Republicans with this pandemic? "Did you socially distance? No, well then no oxygen for you."

On top of that, there is the notion that all that matters is government. If you are a Democrat, then Venezuela, Nigeria, and Cambodia have the best forms of government, and Democrats should probably move there so they can live to be 100+. Because all that mattered with the pandemic is who voted for whom and who the leaders were, these countries must have the best leaders, best governance, and best health care in the world because of their numbers on Covid. Remember all that mattered with Covid is how governments acted.

For all their bashing of creation and praising of Darwin and evolution, Democrats have been hypocrites. In their mind, viruses do not mutate and adapt (well at least not until Trump is out of office). When I said there was variants of the virus, I was accused of making it up. Trump is out of office so lo and behold there is a more contagious mutation. Wow, there was none before hand? Really? Shiiiit!

Before all I heard was how great Europe was in handling the disease (save for those Swedish morons). My God, if the USA just had done what Europe had done, the USA would have done great and saved countless lives and then.

To me, who has actually followed the variants, there was no surprise with a second wave in Europe. The reason the Americas got hit harder was they had more contagious versions of the virus and it was just a matter of time before those variants spread to other places.

If you are going to hand out medals to countries who handled the virus well, (and Lord knows the NY Times has been doing that on a daily basis), it is totally okay to do because the pandemic is over or it will be as soon as Biden is sworn in. There is no way that a country like China can be hit by the newer more contagious versions of Covid and suffer a second wave because their country and government are just so damned good.

The same goes with Venezuela. Have you seen their numbers compared to their neighbors? Man, we should hold them up as a shining example of how to handle the virus. I cannot wait to see how many Democrats move there.

Just remember, everyone, government is the answer. I forgot the question but does it matter?

So the virus will be gone in a few weeks as will climate change. With Biden in office, every day will be 80 degrees and sunny. Man, am I looking forward to that.

One of my posts was removed by the moderator before the US elections being labeled as political.

I see that the right wing and the left wing are not treated equally otherwise this post would have been censured.

[Elvis 2008]

Every time I read one of your posts, it has become more and more apparent that you have gone off the deep end.

Let me guess what party you belong to.

As far as COVID goes, the virus doesn't move itself. People move it. Any measures to control the virus mean reducing the ways the virus can spread. Period. Full stop.

If that was all that mattered, Peru would have fewer cases than anywhere in the world.

Some governments were more effective at convincing their citizens to do this than were others.

Here we go again. Even with an incurable disease, government is the answer.

Again, you believe too many Republican talking points.

What Republican talking points?

[PVMonger]

Whenever the Democrats do something stupid, and politicizing an incurable disease is really stupid, the Republicans turn it around on them and hit them with it 10 X as hard. I can now see someone with colon CA being denied care because "Well, you were stupid you didn't get a colonoscopy" or when you have a heart attack, someone saying, "Well, did you exercise every day?" You can do it for any illness but the worst is for an incurable illness. Can you imagine if doctors treated patients like Democrats have treated Republicans with this pandemic? "Did you socially distance? No, well then no oxygen for you."

On top of that, there is the notion that all that matters is government. If you are a Democrat, then Venezuela, Nigeria, and Cambodia have the best forms of government, and Democrats should probably move there so they can live to be 100+. Because all that mattered with the pandemic is who voted for whom and who the leaders were, these countries must have the best leaders, best governance, and best health care in the world because of their numbers on Covid. Remember all that mattered with Covid is how governments acted...

Every time I read one of your posts, it has become more and more apparent that you have gone off the deep end.

Democrats "politicized" an incurable disease? Really? Unless "politicized" means follow the freaking rules, then they did not.

Only a lunatic would say that Democrats think that Venezuela, etc. Are great places. Some probably do, but that number is far less than the number of tRUMPettes that believe the election was stolen. You believe far too many Republican talking points.

As far as COVID goes, the virus doesn't move itself. People move it. Any measures to control the virus mean reducing the ways the virus can spread. Period. Full stop. Some governments were more effective at convincing their citizens to do this than were others. Donnie the Dumbass and his merry band of morons weren't effective at all. The major reason for that was that tRUMP took no responsibility (see his March 13th presser). Even though he broke his own rule about responsibility (and he is too stupid to remove the tweet) . "Leadership. If it happens, you're responsible. If it doesn't happen, you're responsible. " Yes, Donnie the Dumbass actually said that. Again, you believe too many Republican talking points.

[Elvis 2008]

China locked down, used masks, and did all the right things so that a real biological thing. A virus, could not spread. Yep, it does not take a genius to understand that. It's just basic biology.

And another certain country, who's king vacillated on whether the virus was real, and who's people cannot simply follow any health advice, got heavily infected, worse than any other nation on earth.

It does not take a genius to understand that. It's all just basic biology.

And basic psychiatry.

Let's grant that China did engineer the virus and release it upon the world (the reality is much depressingly ordinary. Rich people like eating bats and pangolins and shit). Literally all we had to do was wear masks and social distance and provide our citizens with a safety net generous enough to allow them to ride out a 2-week quarantine. As we are reminded over and over again. The US is the greatest country in the world, richest and most powerful. And we couldn't even handle a pandemic that pretty much every other developed country has managed 100% better. If this was engineered by China, good game, well played. The better team won. They proved to the world that the US is a falling empire, that its ruling class has so efficiently atomized, divided, and broken down its citizenry that we aren't even willing to wear a piece of cloth over our face in order to protect the most vulnerable. Hats off to the "best President we ever had" who shat himself on the world's stage while being "attacked" by China. Funny how this virus was specifically designed to kill Americans, and not Canadians, Australians, Thais, Germans, New Zealanders, etc. I guess I would need to be a "Genous" to figure that one out.

Whenever the Democrats do something stupid, and politicizing an incurable disease is really stupid, the Republicans turn it around on them and hit them with it 10 X as hard. I can now see someone with colon CA being denied care because "Well, you were stupid you didn't get a colonoscopy" or when you have a heart attack, someone saying, "Well, did you exercise every day?" You can do it for any illness but the worst is for an incurable illness. Can you imagine if doctors treated patients like Democrats have treated Republicans with this pandemic? "Did you socially distance? No, well then no oxygen for you."

On top of that, there is the notion that all that matters is government. If you are a Democrat, then Venezuela, Nigeria, and Cambodia have the best forms of government, and Democrats should probably move there so they can live to be 100+. Because all that mattered with the pandemic is who voted for whom and who the leaders were, these countries must have the best leaders, best governance, and best health care in the world because of their numbers on Covid. Remember all that mattered with Covid is how governments acted.

For all their bashing of creation and praising of Darwin and evolution, Democrats have been hypocrites. In their mind, viruses do not mutate and adapt (well at least not until Trump is out of office). When I said there was variants of the virus, I was accused of making it up. Trump is out of office so lo and behold there is a more contagious mutation. Wow, there was none before hand? Really? Shiiiit!

Before all I heard was how great Europe was in handling the disease (save for those Swedish morons). My God, if the USA just had done what Europe had done, the USA would have done great and saved countless lives and then.

To me, who has actually followed the variants, there was no surprise with a second wave in Europe. The reason the Americas got hit harder was they had more contagious versions of the virus and it was just a matter of time before those variants spread to other places.

If you are going to hand out medals to countries who handled the virus well, (and Lord knows the NY Times has been doing that on a daily basis), it is totally okay to do because the pandemic is over or it will be as soon as Biden is sworn in. There is no way that a country like China can be hit by the newer more contagious versions of Covid and suffer a second wave because their country and government are just so damned good.

The same goes with Venezuela. Have you seen their numbers compared to their neighbors? Man, we should hold them up as a shining example of how to handle the virus. I cannot wait to see how many Democrats move there.

Just remember, everyone, government is the answer. I forgot the question but does it matter?

So the virus will be gone in a few weeks as will climate change. With Biden in office, every day will be 80 degrees and sunny. Man, am I looking forward to that.