Stupid Shit in Bogota

[MiamiBoy1]

Elvis, the issue here has never been SA- which is a totally legitimate methodology and subject of inquiry here on ISG- the issue has been the confabulations, disinformation, and tall tales distributed by one particular poster under the umbrella of that subject. The conceit, for example, that this poster is so irresistible that they could procure all manner of sexual favors and GFE from gorgeous Colombian Civilian Lawyer / Doctors / Circuit Court Judges / Vice President of the Country for a cheap bottle of skin cream or kids toy.

To illustrate the ridiculousness of this bad advice I've composed a list of a few more items that denizens of this fantasyland universe can use to melt the hearts and make these extremely super-duper high quality women swoon:

A day old slice of pepperoni pizza.

A ball of twine.

2 issues of "Marie Claire" found in a Doctors office.

A coupon for a free meal at Denny's with the purchase of one of equal or greater value.

A gallon of flat white paint (semi-gloss).

10 lbs of kitty litter.

Some old coins in a dirty jar.

Ovaltine.

A box of tissues for wiping away the cope tears.

Anyone else want to add to this list?

Free one-on-one coaching class on how to make $2 million over the lifetime.

[Elvis 2008]

Elvis, the issue here has never been SA- which is a totally legitimate methodology and subject of inquiry here on ISG- the issue has been the confabulations, disinformation, and tall tales distributed by one particular poster under the umbrella of that subject. The conceit, for example, that this poster is so irresistible that they could procure all manner of sexual favors and GFE from gorgeous Colombian Civilian Lawyer / Doctors / Circuit Court Judges / Vice President of the Country for a cheap bottle of skin cream or kids toy.

Fair enough. Finding a woman worthy of an investment of time and money is damned hard work, but there are women out there who are worthy. They are rare but they are there, and you are going to get ripped off, you are going to get stood up and the like on your journey. If you are on a journey to find the best, it should not be easy.

What my goal is to tell guys what worked. I hear the same crap all the time. Women want money and looks. I do not think that is that important. I think it is faith and endurance. Colombia has higher yields than the USA and greater rewards so I didn't talk about how hard it is because in comparison it was easier.

I posted some of what I did to increase yields. Stay in a nice place, wear a suit, talk about them, treat them like you are interviewing them for a position, and ironically I would say do not buy gifts. It reeks of desperation and were a negative yield for me. They have great yield once you have established the relationship, but I do not think they would get a quality women into bed.

[DramaFree11]

You know what really saves money per fuck? Having sugar babies in an arrangement who do not want to be paid to fuck but fuck you because they like you.

Yeah, that is pretty obvious.

Yes, you think you are doing great by getting less used up hos.

Yeah, that is pretty obvious too.

S.

Yeah, I am serious junior. And I would be sick of hearing about 60 year old men getting their dicks sucked for free by hotties if I tried and failed too. The women should like a 30 something stud like me right?

Because when you used it as a dating platform, it did not go so well right?

You think I did not notice you did not mention a price first and the bottle of wine? Didn't you say all the seeking hos needed a price up front, or they would not come?.

Yep, M. Boy has complained on several pages. He has complained on all these pages, SA, Colombian, and Mexican. I am sure there are other pages. It usually has to do with money. The funny things is that myself and others are having great times in those destinations, but he always seems to have problems there or the girls are not good looking enough for him.

We all pay for sex, some more some less. What he should be worried about is having amazing experiences and meeting great people.

[Elvis 2008]

What's wrong with paying $100/ month? Maybe it doesn't make much sense for someone going to Colombia for a weekend, but if one stays there longer, SA can save him a lot of money (on cost per fuck or cost per hour basis). I'm not against using SA, in fact, I'm opposed to street WG, casa girls, Lleras girls and think SA girls are of higher quality and provide better overall experience. Gringos are paying Lleras WG 250-300 mil cop PER HOUR OR 1 POP and usually get lousy service.

You know what really saves money per fuck? Having sugar babies in an arrangement who do not want to be paid to fuck but fuck you because they like you.

My SA dates are not doctors and lawyers, just regular young girls working at Burger King, etc.

Yeah, that is pretty obvious.

I don't need to discuss politics, economy or rocket science with them, I don't need them to have a successful career, etc. All I need is to have a great time and fun.

Yes, you think you are doing great by getting less used up hos.

My SA dates are not freebies though, yes, I pay them, otherwise they probably won't fuck me, and I'm fine with that.

Yeah, that is pretty obvious too.

What me and Zebra are sick and tired of, are these BS fairy tales about some 60+ yo out of shape gringos fucking 9's and 10's fitness models who provide complete GFE with BBBJCIMCIPBBFS you name it, who never ask for a dime, whom they pay nothing or bring a bottle of cheap body lotion LOL. Seriously?

S.

Yeah, I am serious junior. And I would be sick of hearing about 60 year old men getting their dicks sucked for free by hotties if I tried and failed too. The women should like a 30 something stud like me right?

eeking is not a dating site, it has never been, it is a platform that was designed for SB and SD specifically to find each other and come to some type of arrangement. But these days it has become a ho platform

Because when you used it as a dating platform, it did not go so well right?

You think I did not notice you did not mention a price first and the bottle of wine? Didn't you say all the seeking hos needed a price up front, or they would not come?

As for the typical rants about hos only caring about money, you are at best offering them $100. I am offering a better career path that would net them millions over their lifetime. Whose dick do you think they want to suck? The guy offering $100 or $2 million?

You are right in that your less used hos would not be interested in my offer. The only ones interested are the ones who work hard, take risks, and listen. Your hos just tell you what you want to hear so they can get your money.

And it is obvious to me that your "conversations" are the same as what you do here. Telling women how it is, and they say nothing and just nod right? It is pretty obvious to me you have issues seeing working girls and want them to affirm your views of the world. I am not a loser for seeing hos because all women are hos right? They have a 100 X more problems than you do. You should be affirming that they are okay not the other way around.

You are not being a male role model. You are not being a daddy. You are being a john and are treated as such. It could not be more obvious to me why you are a failure with seeking. You have no game.

[Member #4729]

What me and Zebra are sick and tired of, are these BS fairy tales about some 60+ yo out of shape gringos fucking 9's and 10's fitness models who provide complete GFE with BBBJCIMCIPBBFS you name it, who never ask for a dime, whom they pay nothing or bring a bottle of cheap body lotion LOL. Seriously? She "can't get enough of your dick" like your dick is different from others dicks in town? Seeking is not a dating site, it has never been, it is a platform that was designed for SB and SD specifically to find each other and come to some type of arrangement. But these days it has become a ho platform, where anyone can register and buy / sell pussy. No screening, no verifications, nothing. I have said it already in my other post, based on my and my friends' experience with Seeking, the vast majority of SB are pros or semi-pros, at least in the 18-23 yo range. Good luck finding a freebie upper class working professional there, you will have much more luck with Cupid or even Tinder.

Elvis, the issue here has never been SA- which is a totally legitimate methodology and subject of inquiry here on ISG- the issue has been the confabulations, disinformation, and tall tales distributed by one particular poster under the umbrella of that subject. The conceit, for example, that this poster is so irresistible that they could procure all manner of sexual favors and GFE from gorgeous Colombian Civilian Lawyer / Doctors / Circuit Court Judges / Vice President of the Country for a cheap bottle of skin cream or kids toy.

To illustrate the ridiculousness of this bad advice I've composed a list of a few more items that denizens of this fantasyland universe can use to melt the hearts and make these extremely super-duper high quality women swoon:

A day old slice of pepperoni pizza.

A ball of twine.

2 issues of "Marie Claire" found in a Doctors office.

A coupon for a free meal at Denny's with the purchase of one of equal or greater value.

A gallon of flat white paint (semi-gloss).

10 lbs of kitty litter.

Some old coins in a dirty jar.

Ovaltine.

A box of tissues for wiping away the cope tears.

Anyone else want to add to this list?

[Mr Enternational]

But if am interested in you, and you say, "Nah, I just want $100" I think you are stupid because my sugar babies do much better financially in the long run than the hos do. And how many times have you talked to a ho with a plan?

The better women want not just money but to learn how to best deploy it. I think 3 in 4 hot Colombian women if you gave them $10,000 would be broke a year later.

This works other ways. Depends on what the person is looking for. There are tons of chicks saying dudes do not want a good woman. They just want a hole to fuck sometimes. Are those dudes stupid the same as the chicks that just want the $100 and run? Everybody is not in search of a long time anything. Short money and short time are just what the doctor ordered for some people.

[LatinaLover#1]

What's wrong with paying $100/ month? Maybe it doesn't make much sense for someone going to Colombia for a weekend, but if one stays there longer, SA can save him a lot of money (on cost per fuck or cost per hour basis). I'm not against using SA, in fact, I'm opposed to street WG, casa girls, Lleras girls and think SA girls are of higher quality and provide better overall experience. Gringos are paying Lleras WG 250-300 mil cop PER HOUR OR 1 POP and usually get lousy service. We all know these are the same girls working El Centro daytime and charging a fraction of that price, sucking multiple dicks a day. Casa girls are cheap, but no GFE, get banged multiple times a day, and this is not appealing to me. My SA dates are not doctors and lawyers, just regular young girls working at Burger King, etc. Or college students, or unemployed, and I'm fine with that as long as they are sexually attractive and fun in bed. I don't need to discuss politics, economy or rocket science with them, I don't need them to have a successful career, etc. All I need is to have a great time and fun. My SA dates are not freebies though, yes, I pay them, otherwise they probably won't fuck me, and I'm fine with that. But paying on average 300-350 mil, I usually get much better service, I'm not in a rush / have no time constraints, some girls stay overnight with no problem, others don't, but still stay for multiple hours. I understand that they don't see me exclusively, but I'm confident they are low volume compared to casa / lleras WG, and never have more than 1 date per night.

What me and Zebra are sick and tired of, are these BS fairy tales about some 60+ yo out of shape gringos fucking 9's and 10's fitness models who provide complete GFE with BBBJCIMCIPBBFS you name it, who never ask for a dime, whom they pay nothing or bring a bottle of cheap body lotion LOL. Seriously? She "can't get enough of your dick" like your dick is different from others dicks in town? Seeking is not a dating site, it has never been, it is a platform that was designed for SB and SD specifically to find each other and come to some type of arrangement. But these days it has become a ho platform, where anyone can register and buy / sell pussy. No screening, no verifications, nothing. I have said it already in my other post, based on my and my friends' experience with Seeking, the vast majority of SB are pros or semi-pros, at least in the 18-23 yo range. Good luck finding a freebie upper class working professional there, you will have much more luck with Cupid or even Tinder.

Your post is full of incorrect assumptions and generalizations. Obviously very ill informed with zero class, You have a handful of years in this hobby and now your not only a know it all but you have some kind of crystal ball that knows the age the physical shape of someone you have never met. You could not be more wrong. However I do know how the women of Bogota feel about crude, uneducated Soviet block low lifes who scrounge around the shadows of zone 1. You obviously wouldn't know the difference between a prepago and a lady. I feel sorry for you little man.

"BS fairy tales about some 60+ yo out of shape gringos fucking 9's and 10's fitness models who provide complete GFE with BBBJCIMCIPBBFS you name it, who never ask for a dime, whom they pay nothing or bring a bottle of cheap body lotion".

Your entire paragraph is full of inaccuracies and outright distortions, built by you to justify Your jealous rage, it jumps off the page. You are a complete waste of time. Your now on Ignore.

[NeilGeorge]

What's wrong with paying $100/ month? Maybe it doesn't make much sense for someone going to Colombia for a weekend, but if one stays there longer, SA can save him a lot of money (on cost per fuck or cost per hour basis). I'm not against using SA, in fact, I'm opposed to street WG, casa girls, Lleras girls and think SA girls are of higher quality and provide better overall experience. Gringos are paying Lleras WG 250-300 mil cop PER HOUR OR 1 POP and usually get lousy service. We all know these are the same girls working El Centro daytime and charging a fraction of that price, sucking multiple dicks a day. Casa girls are cheap, but no GFE, get banged multiple times a day, and this is not appealing to me. My SA dates are not doctors and lawyers, just regular young girls working at Burger King, etc. Or college students, or unemployed, and I'm fine with that as long as they are sexually attractive and fun in bed. I don't need to discuss politics, economy or rocket science with them, I don't need them to have a successful career, etc. All I need is to have a great time and fun. My SA dates are not freebies though, yes, I pay them, otherwise they probably won't fuck me, and I'm fine with that. But paying on average 300-350 mil, I usually get much better service, I'm not in a rush / have no time constraints, some girls stay overnight with no problem, others don't, but still stay for multiple hours. I understand that they don't see me exclusively, but I'm confident they are low volume compared to casa / lleras WG, and never have more than 1 date per night.

What me and Zebra are sick and tired of, are these BS fairy tales about some 60+ yo out of shape gringos fucking 9's and 10's fitness models who provide complete GFE with BBBJCIMCIPBBFS you name it, who never ask for a dime, whom they pay nothing or bring a bottle of cheap body lotion LOL. Seriously? She "can't get enough of your dick" like your dick is different from others dicks in town? Seeking is not a dating site, it has never been, it is a platform that was designed for SB and SD specifically to find each other and come to some type of arrangement. But these days it has become a ho platform, where anyone can register and buy / sell pussy..

I am sure it is my personality too.

[MiamiBoy1]

Correct about what? Paying $100 a month to be on seeking to see hos?

Yawn. As I have said with most guys, go see your hos. They are far better off paying Woodman than getting on seeking. But when you go to Santa Fe, you are not going to meet the models, engineers, and lawyers that I have met on seeking. They require a different strategy than what guys were doing.

And it is the sex guide, and you know what? Every guy on here who has really done the sugar daddy thing says the same thing, the sex is way better. That always offends guys seeing hos. "How do you know that? They ask. Because we have been you. If you do not do the GF or SD thing, you are not having the best sex.

I used seeking and had three women from the site meet me in Cancun for four days. I showed photos of the women when I was there in the SA forum, and I think guys want to know how that was done, and I am getting there. If you think that just takes money, prove me wrong. You better have real skill as a sugar daddy taking that task on. As soon as I left, the women were predictably bitching about other.

Oh and with each woman, I promised them no cash up front and gave them a whopping $200 when we were done. So what now? You going to say you are not interested in that and no one is?

Quit trying to direct traffic and put me on ignore if you do not like what I am saying.

What's wrong with paying $100/ month? Maybe it doesn't make much sense for someone going to Colombia for a weekend, but if one stays there longer, SA can save him a lot of money (on cost per fuck or cost per hour basis). I'm not against using SA, in fact, I'm opposed to street WG, casa girls, Lleras girls and think SA girls are of higher quality and provide better overall experience. Gringos are paying Lleras WG 250-300 mil cop PER HOUR OR 1 POP and usually get lousy service. We all know these are the same girls working El Centro daytime and charging a fraction of that price, sucking multiple dicks a day. Casa girls are cheap, but no GFE, get banged multiple times a day, and this is not appealing to me. My SA dates are not doctors and lawyers, just regular young girls working at Burger King, etc. Or college students, or unemployed, and I'm fine with that as long as they are sexually attractive and fun in bed. I don't need to discuss politics, economy or rocket science with them, I don't need them to have a successful career, etc. All I need is to have a great time and fun. My SA dates are not freebies though, yes, I pay them, otherwise they probably won't fuck me, and I'm fine with that. But paying on average 300-350 mil, I usually get much better service, I'm not in a rush / have no time constraints, some girls stay overnight with no problem, others don't, but still stay for multiple hours. I understand that they don't see me exclusively, but I'm confident they are low volume compared to casa / lleras WG, and never have more than 1 date per night.

What me and Zebra are sick and tired of, are these BS fairy tales about some 60+ yo out of shape gringos fucking 9's and 10's fitness models who provide complete GFE with BBBJCIMCIPBBFS you name it, who never ask for a dime, whom they pay nothing or bring a bottle of cheap body lotion LOL. Seriously? She "can't get enough of your dick" like your dick is different from others dicks in town? Seeking is not a dating site, it has never been, it is a platform that was designed for SB and SD specifically to find each other and come to some type of arrangement. But these days it has become a ho platform, where anyone can register and buy / sell pussy. No screening, no verifications, nothing. I have said it already in my other post, based on my and my friends' experience with Seeking, the vast majority of SB are pros or semi-pros, at least in the 18-23 yo range. Good luck finding a freebie upper class working professional there, you will have much more luck with Cupid or even Tinder.

[Elvis 2008]

I was trying to show that there is an alternative to working girl fucking by the hour and a better experience with an educated stylish woman, that even a dweeb from the states can get a non pro / chipper with a little knowledge and a different mind set to make it happen. IF he WANTS IT! If it's not for you and not interested, skip over the post.

LL, like you, the brothels and places like SF were cool at first, but there were times the fucking got boring. It's like I love my burgers, but they are mass produced, and I want a meal that is made just for me, nothing like home cooking from a skilled woman.

I hope you do not let the cretins push you away. Honestly, some of the guys who are so interested in pushing the sugar baby model aside IMO may be benefiting in other ways and have a reason to push the agenda they do.

I said this to Captain Solo elsewhere. Colombia really is not that great if you are just doing P4 P. I think you can get just as good for as cheap in Mexico and it is less hassle to go there.

For the sugar lifestyle, the women want much less than Mexicans want and way less than the USA women, but you are still in the john-ho world if you think in terms of price. The real reason to have a Colombian woman IMO is the affection they show the men they like / love. Routard mentioned this in his epic review of Bogota, and I just cannot imagine a guy not wanting that. From what I have seen, they are the most giving women in and out of the bedroom in the world.

I was with one of my gals and like all of them, and we are looking at people picnicking in the country side, and she says, "They are Colombians. They are happy. " Have you ever heard anyone say that about Americans? I would say about Americans, "They are Americans, they are medicated to deal with reality. " I think half the population is on some drug to affect mood. What in our lives is so bad we need drugs?

The guys who are so paranoid about Colombian women are hanging out in the gutter, Santa Fe in Bogota and centro in Medellin. That is fine for a quickie, but why stay there? I just want guys to see the Colombia I do because it is so fucking awesome, and I wish guys would quit with the excuses.

I wish guys could meet Don Carlos and me and see how we are. What separates Don from other guys here is that he is fun company but he thinks he is worthy of the hotties. You will never here him using looks or money as an excuse for not getting a hottie. Even if he lost one to that, he would be onto the next one in no time.

[Elvis 2008]

Miami Boy1 is 100% correct here.

Correct about what? Paying $100 a month to be on seeking to see hos?

Frankly the last few pages of posts on this thread are just bizarre- is this ISG or the beta male dating club? I'm not sure why so many of these ultra suave players who have legions of hot and ready Colombian civilian women are belittling their incredibly virile and ultra-successful selves by spending time on a pay for play forum, but mysteries abound as we enter the New Year.

Yawn. As I have said with most guys, go see your hos. They are far better off paying Woodman than getting on seeking. But when you go to Santa Fe, you are not going to meet the models, engineers, and lawyers that I have met on seeking. They require a different strategy than what guys were doing.

And it is the sex guide, and you know what? Every guy on here who has really done the sugar daddy thing says the same thing, the sex is way better. That always offends guys seeing hos. "How do you know that? They ask. Because we have been you. If you do not do the GF or SD thing, you are not having the best sex.

I used seeking and had three women from the site meet me in Cancun for four days. I showed photos of the women when I was there in the SA forum, and I think guys want to know how that was done, and I am getting there. If you think that just takes money, prove me wrong. You better have real skill as a sugar daddy taking that task on. As soon as I left, the women were predictably bitching about other.

Oh and with each woman, I promised them no cash up front and gave them a whopping $200 when we were done. So what now? You going to say you are not interested in that and no one is?

Quit trying to direct traffic and put me on ignore if you do not like what I am saying.

[ScatManDoo]

LOL. We just had Paulie the douche talk about the importance of wearing polo shirts and khakis in Medellin and not wearing shorts for purposes of "not being a target". I am not sure what "not being a target" means. I guess it means you are less likely to get ripped off or drugged. It is funny I have never had a problem with that, and I can spot an American a mile away in Colombia. The dress code may work until you open your mouth. Maybe you douches think you can pass as Colombians if you use sign language.

A $100 in Santa Fe would net me more pussy than I want, and $200 would make me sick of it. So you douches now are bragging about not being drugged and more pussy and thinking you guys look like Colombians? Uh okay. What is next? You breathe better than me? Does your diet have more fiber? The game in my mind is getting quality pussy and so you should be bragging that you are getting better pussy than me, but you douches do not know the game.

And while you douches are not wearing shorts thinking you are culturally superior, the president has said he wants you sex tourists gone, so you cannot be both. You cannot be getting the most pussy and not be culturally insensitive sex tourists. If you wear khakis and use google translate and ferret three women a day to a sex hotel, you are not fooling anyone..

Has Juan Carlos been thanking you for feeding his kid?

[Elvis 2008]

And every douche has been in more pussy than you.

LOL. We just had Paulie the douche talk about the importance of wearing polo shirts and khakis in Medellin and not wearing shorts for purposes of "not being a target". I am not sure what "not being a target" means. I guess it means you are less likely to get ripped off or drugged. It is funny I have never had a problem with that, and I can spot an American a mile away in Colombia. The dress code may work until you open your mouth. Maybe you douches think you can pass as Colombians if you use sign language.

A $100 in Santa Fe would net me more pussy than I want, and $200 would make me sick of it. So you douches now are bragging about not being drugged and more pussy and thinking you guys look like Colombians? Uh okay. What is next? You breathe better than me? Does your diet have more fiber? The game in my mind is getting quality pussy and so you should be bragging that you are getting better pussy than me, but you douches do not know the game.

And while you douches are not wearing shorts thinking you are culturally superior, the president has said he wants you sex tourists gone, so you cannot be both. You cannot be getting the most pussy and not be culturally insensitive sex tourists. If you wear khakis and use google translate and ferret three women a day to a sex hotel, you are not fooling anyone.

So yeah, I agree. You douches make great sex tourists, way better than me. All I am doing is supporting a single mom and her kid.

[PVMonger]

I have had my debates and arguments with people but with you, it is just personal insults. That you are on ignore now is a given. You are not just a troll quoting a 4 week old post of mine, but a worthless Democratic douche POS who should be banned for good. Your insults are boring, and I know worms with more self worth than you.

And every douche has been in more pussy than you.

[Elvis 2008]

You have left no doubt.

That you live in a fantasy world.

I have had my debates and arguments with people but with you, it is just personal insults. That you are on ignore now is a given. You are not just a troll quoting a 4 week old post of mine, but a worthless Democratic douche POS who should be banned for good. Your insults are boring, and I know worms with more self worth than you.