Stupid Shit in Bogota

[Gabacho]

You are just a jealous prick who can't afford nice things in life and hates everyone who spends more than you. BTW, I never "grossly overpay". I pay market price, which varies across different venues, both offline and online.

You're just proving my point about the attacks and the admins not doing their jobs. You're one of the guys that belongs in the Poblado thread.

[MiamiBoy1]

I agree there should be sub-threads so that way all the idiots who like to grossly overpay and then think they are better than the rest of us can stay in the Poblado thread and the real mongers with actual valuable information who don't attack and criticize others, can post in the Centro and Facebook threads.

You are just a jealous prick who can't afford nice things in life and hates everyone who spends more than you. BTW, I never "grossly overpay". I pay market price, which varies across different venues, both offline and online.

[Sangnyc21]

I agree there should be sub-threads so that way all the idiots who like to grossly overpay and then think they are better than the rest of us can stay in the Poblado thread and the real mongers with actual valuable information who don't attack and criticize others, can post in the Centro and Facebook threads.

Coming from a guy who roots for more guys to get drugged robbed or killed thinking the price of pussy will come down. And this is legal in this forum??

I understand people will argue and debate. But how is this person even allowed to contribute to anything in life.

This guy has repeatedly said on many posts he hopes more guys get drugged so they'll stop coming because he's bitter about guys who spend. I would advise admin to ban this guy but hey it's not my forum.

[Gabacho]

The problem is that many mongers on ISG state how much bare back sex they have but they do not report when they get an STD.

I have stated repeatedly when that I have had stds in the past and I have also posted the treatments to the stds as well.

Gonorrhea:

I000 MG ceftriaxone intrsmuscular injection and 1500 MG or azythromycin.

Chlamydia: 1500 MG azythromycin all at one or alternatively 100 g Doxycycline twice daily 12 hours apart for 7 to 10 days taken with food.

Syphilis: same treatment as chlamydia.

Herpes: Valacyclovir 1000 MG once daily in the morning taken as soon as you notice an outbreak beginning to start and taken for 5 days or can be continued to be taken for up to a year to keep outbreaks from ever occurring. Also there is currently an HSV vaccine in clinical trial testing at university of Pennsylvania it is a new MRNA vaccine I believe it might be made by moderna the same makers of the covid vaccines.

HPV aka genital warts: Gardasil 9 vaccine taken in 2 doses 6 months apart will protect you from the strains of HPV that cause genital warts and or cancer.

HIV 1 and 2 : besides herpes is the only other STD that isn't curable or currently have an approved vaccine (probably because there's no incentive for pharmaceutical companies to make a cure or vaccine while they are making windfall profits from selling expensive treats such Truvada and Descovy).

That being said transmission rates from an HIV possitve female to a non possitve mail thru unprotected vaginal sex remain to be negligibly low (less than 1!10th of 1%.

Furthermore the same drugs that are given to people who already have HIV can be taken by people who don't have HIV and it will shield them from getting infected even if they have have sex with someone who is positive. This is called PREP or pre exposure prophylaxis.

Drugs that can be used for prep include but are not limited to the following:

Truvada.

Descovy.

Cabenuva (only taken 2 o 3 times a year).

Biktarvy.

I believe a vaccine as well as a cure to HIV should have already been created, especially given the fact that they were able to create covid vaccines in such a small amount of time in comparison to the amount of time HIV has been around. I however think that because there is so much money to be made from selling the above mentioned medications, that these pharmaceutical companies don't want to make a vaccine because they would be hurting their own bottom lines.

Anyways there you have it, besides HIV all the other STDd are really no big deal they all have treatments or even vaccines available or in testing. As always it is your (and the girl's) choice to decide to use a condom or not but don't listen to everything these guys are saying trying to paint a picture that unprotected sex is the end of the world because it is not.

Also in Colombia many of these drugs can be purchased for very cheap and in developed countries such as US, Canada or EU countries they are often provided for free or reduced cost by the government.

[Eszpresszo]

The problem is that many mongers on ISG state how much bare back sex they have but they do not report when they get an STD.

But, you can't STDs if you never actually have sex. And that is the principal reason it never gets reported. After all, why let reality get in the way of a good fantasy?

[Turgid]

The problem is that many mongers on ISG state how much bare back sex they have but they do not report when they get an STD.

[Elvis 2008]

Spend your money how you wish. It is just a shame that you never learn your lesson. Chick in Peru called herself teaching you a lesson, but you are so hard headed that you run out to do the same shit again (playing Captain Save a Broad.).

Hey, dummy, I am not the one jealous of you. I believe you are fucking the women whose pictures you post. I post that I went out with Ms. Cartagena and you called me a liar. I got stood up for one day and you were thrilled that I got stood up and could lecture that guys not pay in advance. I mention my GF will do anything for me sexually including rim jobs, and you went nuts and said you got them too. Hell, you Medellin morons are still bringing that rim job stuff up.

And now there is the latest stupid one. I am being Captain save a broad. What did my GF need saving from? I must have missed that part.

I don't think there is any lesson to be learned outside of your being a jealous pathetic loser who makes every fucking excuse as to not having better women. Looks are subjective. Pussy is pussy.

The difference between you and me is that I spend money on myself and you spend money on women.

And the only women you are going to get with an attitude like that are the butt ugly ones.

[Mr Enternational]

I have to chime in here. Everyone is free to make their own choices, but there is way too much boasting about "BBFS" and other forms of unprotected vaginal and anal sex with prostitutes in this forum, in my opinion. It's reckless, disgusting and it's not something to brag about.

How is it boasting or bragging? The man is simply reporting the experience and service that he had. If he had said the chick licked his ass and swallowed his cum would that also be bragging, reckless, and disgusting and in need of rebuke due to them being unsafe sex practices? There is a safe sex thread to preach to mongers all day long about how you believe it is best for them to use condoms and only derive their sexual pleasures how you see fit.

[Gabacho]

Like Medellin should have a centro and poblado and fb thread.

Bogota Sante Fe and Chapinero.

This way we can just communicate among people who can relate. Because let's me honest some guys are so bitter and hateful with the things they say it's obvious they're bitter at life. If banging a streetwalker bareback is an accomplishment you're proud of you really ain't got much going on in life.

But others just want to do this for what it is. Leisure. And pick up useful info along the way to make it easier. Instead of having to be triggered by low lives.

I agree there should be sub-threads so that way all the idiots who like to grossly overpay and then think they are better than the rest of us can stay in the Poblado thread and the real mongers with actual valuable information who don't attack and criticize others, can post in the Centro and Facebook threads.

[Gabacho]

I have to chime in here. Everyone is free to make their own choices, but there is way too much boasting about "BBFS" and other forms of unprotected vaginal and anal sex with prostitutes in this forum, in my opinion. It's reckless, disgusting and it's not something to brag about.

The guys on here who talk about doing that are beyond saving, but I write this for the young and impressionable guys who do not already have STDs are just getting started in mongering. The risk / reward is not even close to worth it.

First, some guys claim that they can't enjoy sex or cum in a condom. I believed I was in that group until I was about 35. Then I realized that I had actually been wearing poorly fitting condoms the whole time. Then I discovered Trojan Magnums. I never thought of myself as a "magnum" guy, as I am not exceptionally well endowed by Western standards, but once I tried one on, it was like wearing a second skin. They fit tight around the base while allowing the foreskin to slide up and down during the act just like if I was bare. The kicker is, my dick doesn't get saturated by all the vaginal juices or rubbed raw by friction. This lets me last longer and enjoy sex more.

Now, I honestly prefer vaginal sex with a condom more than I do without one. I have two steady girlfriends who are not prostitutes and are not having unprotected sex with other people to my knowledge. And they absolutely insist that I have unprotected sex with them. So I have more unprotected sex than protected, and there is no question that I would prefer to use protection with them for my own comfort and pleasure. But I go without a condom for their benefit, and because I trust that they are safe.

So finding the perfect condom is key, and well worth the effort. All other condoms I've tried other than the Trojan Mags are worthless to me. Even the "bareskin" version of the Trojan Magnums is too flimsy to do the job. So I stock up. I keep a roll of four or five stuffed in my pocket at all times when I am roaming the streets and bars of Colombia. And all of the many times I have used them, I have never had one break or slip off.

The benefits are numerous. First and most importantly, I don't want to expose any of the women I have an actual real-life relationship with to diseases as a result of my promiscuity. That is much more important to me than even my own safety. But of course, it also helps to keep me safe, which is also important. Because I currently don't have any diseases and I would like to keep it that way.

But the kicker is, I am sacrificing absolutely zero pleasure by wrapping it up. In fact, I am enhancing the pleasure. And there is less wear and tear on my penis. When I am planning to have sex with three girls on three successive days, the last thing I want is to have a sore cock after the first round of action. A well-fitting condom ensures that my member emerges virtually unscathed after the first round and is ready for pain-free action the next day and the next -- or, as with my recent experience in Thailand, for two more rounds that night. (On the downside, following my advice in Thailand could lead to sexual overindulgence, so beware of that country!

So I challenge you younger guys to find a condom that fits you just right and makes sex feel as good or better than it does unprotected. It will take some time and effort, but I think you will come to see that it is well worth it. And you may even wonder how you have been living without it all this time. Never rely on the condoms that a girl or establishment carries. As far as I can tell, those are designed to make the experience unenjoyable for you so you finish faster. Find your armor of choice and wear it comfidently into battle.

Same goes for going down on prostitutes. Some guys like to do that. I am one of those guys. I always use a dental dam when I go down. You can buy a pack of six for about $10 on Amazon. They come in different flavors, but they all taste like a balloon to me. And that's fine. I am not a big fan of the taste of pussy, I do it to give the girl pleasure so that she is inclined to reciprocate and give better service, and also to get her lubed up naturally with no foreign substances. Some of you guys who just love the taste of pussy might want to take the risk, but it's not worth it for me. And believe me, the girl you are paying does not care whether you are using a dental dam or not. They are just happy your mouth is down there at all, and I think many of them actually prefer the dam because it is more sanitary and makes them less self-conscious about their taste / odor. So they will relax and enjoy it all the same.

I am not preaching morality here. I am just preaching common sense. I fully expect that I will take a lot of flak from the "raw connoisseurs" out there who throw caution to the wind. The point I am making is that if a man can find a good condom that he enjoys having sex in, there is no point to subjecting himself to the elements and the possibility of disease. Some of you may find that opinion to be very objectionable, and I expect to hear all about it.

With all that said, I draw the line at receiving oral sex. Some might call me a hypocrite. Some might agree. But when it comes to blowjobs, I absolutely insist that they be performed on me without protection. The reason is simple. I do not enjoy the nuances of a skillful and attentive blow job with a condom on anywhere close to how much I enjoy it with a condom off. And I feel like the risk of contracting disease from a blow job is much less than from vaginal or anal peneration.

If a blowjob feels just as good for you with a condom as it does without, more power to you. I fall on the other side of the spectrum, and therefore there is enough reward to justify the risk for me.

I am sure someone will parade out some statistics about how the dangers of getting a disease from "BBBJ" are virtually equal to "BBFS. " I hope that's not true, but I am not going to debate you. If there is some significant risk there, then I guess I will continue to "live life on the edge" like Garbacho here. But when it is reasonable for me to not take a risk that could jeopardize my health or the health or those I care about without sacrificing my enjoyment, I am going to avoid taking that risk.

I am sure that some guys are in a different circumstance that changes the calculus. Some have reached an age or condition in life that makes future health less of a concern, or they have reached a point where they intend to be perpetually single and don't intend to expose anyone they might one day care about to something they might catch. But that's not the place you younger guys should want to start out. I think many who are in that position would agree, whether they are willing to admit or not.

Even for guys who already have STDs, going bare exposes girls who might be clean, and that isn't cool for anyone. Especially for the clean guys who come later and want to take the risk and enjoy those same girls "raw. " So I don't view already being infected as a legitimate excuse to expose others. If anything it's a stronger reason to wear protection. Obviously it's up to the girl to allow it, but there should at least be fair disclosure. Just because you have a dick doesn't mean you have to be one.

So that's my message for the younger guys. Don't be misled by all this talk about how you're not really living life if you are not screwing hookers without protection. There are plenty of women out there you can have unprotected sex with who are not prostitutes. And if maximizing your pleasure with a prostitute is more important than your long term health, you might need to reevaluate your priorities in life.

Funny how I post a report of detailed valuable information and then I get newbies crawling out of the work work to chastise and criticize me and call me 'garbage'.

Maybe you should have read the posting guidelines before you posted.

"No Safe Sex Complaints Forum Members wishing to criticize other Members for not following what they consider to be safe sex procedures may do so only in the Safe Sex Thread. Members may not comment upon, criticize or confront other members on this subject in the general discussion threads. Any such "safe sex complaints" posted in the general discussion threads will be deleted without comment. However.

No Safe Sex Bragging Members may not repeatedly post about or otherwise taunt other Members regarding their refusal to follow safe sex procedures. Specifically, references to having sex without a condom may be made only by incidental reference and shall not be the focus of any report. Such "safe sex taunting" reports will be deleted without comment.

If you want to criticize another member for not following what you consider to be safe sex practices, then send him a PM. ".

And maybe the admins should do their jobs.

-Gabacho.

[MiamiBoy1]

That's exactly what it is. He's paying for a fantasy. The fantasy that he thinks that since he is paying more money that he is somehow getting something better than what normal guys paying in the normal price range can get. He calls this top echelon. I bet at some point those same women he pays 400 k were charging 100 k or 50 k even. Probably when they were younger and had less mileage. Now they're like 25 and charge more than when they were 19 and guys like MB1 come along and pay it and think they are in some kind of special lane LOL.

Barebacking some street skank for 100 k is what normal guys do? LOL. Almost in every post you demonstrate broke person mentality, failing to realize that are levels to everything in life and we all generally get what we pay for.

I don't do high mileage girls, unlike you and other street rats. Also, any decent girl would never sell herself short and would never work at a brothel or street. They know their worth, and would never let some low life bareback them for 100 k while on period.

Do you realize a girl doesn't have to suck dick for 50 k when she is young? Doesn't have to fuck multiple clients? You speak about it as it is some kind of career, where you start with low pay and then get a raise over time. A hot girl, who doesn't live in isolation, has social media presence and knows her worth, can easily find one wealthy guy and have a long term arrangement with him. No need to suck few dicks per day to make a living.

[Sangnyc21]

Do you suggest I rent a $100-$200/ month shack in Aranjuez like you do to experience "real" Colombia? I prefer comfort and willing to pay for it. Shopping for a shower head is not something I want to do, as there are more fun things to do.

Also, the "plastic barrios" you are taking about are full of local Colombians, do you suggest they move to Aranjuez as well?

Like Medellin should have a centro and poblado and fb thread.

Bogota Sante Fe and Chapinero.

This way we can just communicate among people who can relate. Because let's me honest some guys are so bitter and hateful with the things they say it's obvious they're bitter at life. If banging a streetwalker bareback is an accomplishment you're proud of you really ain't got much going on in life.

But others just want to do this for what it is. Leisure. And pick up useful info along the way to make it easier. Instead of having to be triggered by low lives.

[Mr Enternational]

LOL. You are paying for an apartment in Thailand you rarely use. You pay $900 a night for a hotel room for several nights once a month. And you are lecturing me on being smart with money?

Why are you paying anything for a "chick you mess with"? You are paying thousands in hotel costs and bragging about saving $150 a month on rent?

You are so obsessed with not giving money to women even if it costs you 10 X more somewhere else, and you think you are so smart with money? You are a fucking idiot.

Here is a novel idea. Stop spending $900 a night on hotels. Spend $500 on the room and $200 to get a top shelf girl, and quit being such a jealous prick.

There you go with that Elvis truth again. Always saying someone said something they did not. Either that or you can't read well. I never said I pay $900 per day several days each month for a hotel. I said I spent that for a water bungalow in Tahiti. I never said I was paying anything for a chick that I mess with.

But the truth does not matter to you when you can invent your own narrative like someone does not know what they said. Exact reason I like to write to chicks. Because they want to say you said something you didn't or say they didn't say something they did. It is all there in black and white. Still that does not seem to matter to them. They will swear by the lie anyway, the same as you are doing. I write something 5 minutes ago and already you are trying to say I said something I did not. Hell, at least wait 2 weeks like other broads do.

Spend your money how you wish. It is just a shame that you never learn your lesson. Chick in Peru called herself teaching you a lesson, but you are so hard headed that you run out to do the same shit again (playing Captain Save a Broad.).

The difference between you and me is that I spend money on myself and you spend money on women. The things I do, I plan to do myself anyway and I may invite someone along if I feel like it. The things you do, you do to impress women to try to be in their favor. See nobody is up in the apartment that I pay for when I am not here. That is because it is MY shit that I pay for for me. But I understand you not being able to get chicks without money. Use what you have to get what you want. And if money is all you have to offer then so be it.

[Elvis 2008]

LOL. Is that what she told you? It is like both of ours, but you will pay for it and I will stay in it everyday. Who the hell else would go for that rotten deal except Elvis. I have heard of a sucker being born every minute, but there has to be only 1 Elvis being born each generation. Nobody could be that dumb.

LOL. You are paying for an apartment in Thailand you rarely use. You pay $900 a night for a hotel room for several nights once a month. And you are lecturing me on being smart with money?

Meanwhile chick that I mess with in Colombia said if I was to live with her I would have to pay MY SHARE. She lives with her daughter and her bills are 800 K per month. Divided by 3, she agreed my share would be 266 K. Maybe I should just pay the entire 800 K (or better yet hand over 2 million like Elvis does) and call it not her rent but mine if I am only there 4 days. Ceaseless entertainment with this guy.

Why are you paying anything for a "chick you mess with"? You are paying thousands in hotel costs and bragging about saving $150 a month on rent?

You are so obsessed with not giving money to women even if it costs you 10 X more somewhere else, and you think you are so smart with money? You are a fucking idiot.

Here is a novel idea. Stop spending $900 a night on hotels. Spend $500 on the room and $200 to get a top shelf girl, and quit being such a jealous prick.

[Nounce]

I can understand this POV. But the thing you said is proving my exact point about what I said about cars. The people who only spend 10 $ are the same ones that say a BMW and a ford are the same thing with the same result.

And I'm not here to insult guys who spend 10 $ to get girls. But it seems that those guys are always the ones insulting the guys who spend more.

I am not sure the car analogy applies from personal experience. We know cars better in terms of performance and reliability than what we know about the women. The majority of my friends have swapped their European cars for Japanese brands. Almost all my friends who like outdoor sports have all swapped their European sports utility vehicles for other cars that cost less than half. I do know very few who keep these cars but they all have helpers and are very wealthy which is very rare and not what we are talking about here.

For argument's sake that I agree with the lambo analogy. I think what you talking about are buyers, right? and rarely would people use it as daily driver. Buyers also know the performance and not just by look. I will define a lambo level girl as someone having 1 million IG followers or just a model who can make enough money and do well independently. My question is how many members on here are doing that? Let's count Elvis as one and he is more a buyer too but even him, he has not gotten what he got at her prime in terms of earning and age. I think there are others but very rare.

I am not as black and white as Mr E. I think if you understand what really makes you happy and you can pay for it, go ahead. I also don't think Elvis is with a hooker. To me, he is in a form of relationship that is closer to marriage. There are several categories of girls on dating site. I think it can be broken down to some simple types based on the following, ones that stayed, one that being scoped up and never returned, and one that don't want to stay. The first one is more like a hooker and the last one do not want to be a hooker assuming all are attractive