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[LuvMexicanas]

From what I've read its hopeless. If you stay at Home as much as possible to avoid covid, you have to do it for years. People are getting covid twice which makes the drs think a vaccine nor herd immunity will not help much. The 2nd time you get covid it is worse as well. I'm shocked I haven't gotten it. I've been in protests. 3 dentist visits. Zona norte. 200 hours on packed trains with no masks by 90% of the people. But it definitely seems rather hopeless. I don't see life going back to normal for years. Many years.

My favorite pussy is new pussy and new pussy doesn't happen sitting scared in your home. To each his own. No judging here.

[Dogers69]

From what I've read its hopeless. If you stay at Home as much as possible to avoid covid, you have to do it for years. People are getting covid twice which makes the drs think a vaccine nor herd immunity will not help much. The 2nd time you get covid it is worse as well. I'm shocked I haven't gotten it. I've been in protests. 3 dentist visits. Zona norte. 200 hours on packed trains with no masks by 90% of the people. But it definitely seems rather hopeless. I don't see life going back to normal for years. Many years.

[ScatManDoo]

By the way, the death rates are going way down.

I would hope so as many resources are devoted to improving treatment. The approximate +10% death rates initially experienced by Italy & Spain needed improvement, even as it remains much more deadly than the regular waves of flu.

"Most everyone is going to get this virus anyways.

That's not true at all. Most people in New Zealand won't get it. In New Zealand the pandemic peaked in early April, with 89 new cases recorded per day and 929 active cases. As of 5 July 2020, the country has 23 active cases, all from people in managed isolation following travel to New Zealand. There have been no locally-acquired cases reported since 22 May 2020.

I only hear stupid reasons why masks are not required in most states here.

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"QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2466189]When should we re-open?

I don't know all the CDC's suggested measures for re-opening.

There was the declining rates of infections over of period of around two weeks.

I remember a lot of discussion as to a country the size of the United States needing daily testing volumes ranging from half a million to as much as two million daily tests.

A week ago in the United States we were testing about 150,000 per day.

I don't know which border you think is closed except for essential personnel. My fellow hobbyists don't seem to be having much resistance to their mongering trips these days to La Zona. "/ QUOTE".

There is a border closure with the exception of essential personnel, How aggressive Canada and Mexico are with it is up to them. I know we are.

https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/loc...month/2348064/

What would extending the lock down accomplish?, Most everyone is going to get this virus anyways. By the way, the death rates are going way down.

[ScatManDoo]

, other countries do not do near the testing we do, The borders are closed except for essential personnel, once again when should we open? The virus isn't going anywhere anytime soon. A vaccine is a year off if we are lucky.

When should we re-open?

I don't know all the CDC's suggested measures for re-opening.

There was the declining rates of infections over of period of around two weeks.

I remember a lot of discussion as to a country the size of the United States needing daily testing volumes ranging from half a million to as much as two million daily tests.

A week ago in the United States we were testing about 150,000 per day.

I don't know which border you think is closed except for essential personnel. My fellow hobbyists don't seem to be having much resistance to their mongering trips these days to La Zona.

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"QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2465912]President Obama was building towards a network of worldwide observers (on the ground) in other countries. Year over year increases in Wuhan area hospital traffic between Octobers in 2018 ad 2019 would not have gone unnoticed (as it did under the Trump Administration).

There are scores of Non-island nations that have performed much better than the United States in their management of the pandemic.

Both of which are taking measures to reduce non-essential travel to their countries.

There were declines of that duration (even longer) in many of the countries that have had much better success in fighting COVID-19.

Which supports the general consensus that many early opening states opened much too early. ".

Spies are routinely executed in China (the real culprits here), other countries do not do near the testing we do, The borders are closed except for essential personnel, once again when should we open? The virus isn't going anywhere anytime soon. A vaccine is a year off if we are lucky.

[ScatManDoo]

China purposely withheld information concerning COVID19, they didn't admit anything until it was to late

President Obama was building towards a network of worldwide observers (on the ground) in other countries. Year over year increases in Wuhan area hospital traffic between Octobers in 2018 ad 2019 would not have gone unnoticed (as it did under the Trump Administration).

New Zealand and Taiwan are Islands,

There are scores of Non-island nations that have performed much better than the United States in their management of the pandemic.

America has land borders with Mexico and Canada,

Both of which are taking measures to reduce non-essential travel to their countries.

There will never be a 14 day decline in COVID

There were declines of that duration (even longer) in many of the countries that have had much better success in fighting COVID-19.

There will never be a 14 day decline in COVID, there wasn't when we were locked down

Which supports the general consensus that many early opening states opened much too early.

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QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2465809 President Obama had plans for dealing with an airborne virus. The democrats would not have ignored science and probably been instrumental in helping contain it when it first broke out in China. Just like the Obama administration was instrumental in handling & containing the Ebola outbreak.

One of the CDC guidelines that was completely ignored by most (or all) reopening states was a 14 day decline in the infection rate / measures.

Not true. Look at the results of countries successful in dealing with COVID, like New Zealand or Taiwan. / QUOTE.

Ebola is not an airborne virus, China purposely withheld information concerning COVID19, they didn't admit anything until it was to late, New Zealand and Taiwan are Islands, America has land borders with Mexico and Canada, We would have had to stop COVID in those countries as well because of our open border policy that Trump is trying to tighten up. There will never be a 14 day decline in COVID, there wasn't when we were locked down and will never be with our relentless testing and ease its of transmission.

[ScatManDoo]

Probably not on there priority list for their 2 week vacation though,

Good recovery on spelling the word "their".

When it came around again.

[ScatManDoo]

Donald Trump and the Republican Party has made us Americans far worse off than we were four years ago.

Dozens of other (well managed) countries are handling Covid much better than the United States, with better results to show.

The vast majority of people make a full recovery from COVID with no lingering complications, How would the Democrats have handled this pandemic?

President Obama had plans for dealing with an airborne virus. The democrats would not have ignored science and probably been instrumental in helping contain it when it first broke out in China. Just like the Obama administration was instrumental in handling & containing the Ebola outbreak.

Oh and the virus explosion as you call it happened because of irresponsible governors opening to soon? When should we open?

One of the CDC guidelines that was completely ignored by most (or all) reopening states was a 14 day decline in the infection rate / measures.

Most everyone is going to get this virus

Not true. Look at the results of countries successful in dealing with COVID, like New Zealand or Taiwan.

Oh and the virus explosion as you call it happened because of irresponsible governors opening to soon? When should we open? Most everyone is going to get this virus, that is why they say we are trying to slow the spread, not stop it. And I guess the BLM protest had nothing to do with the rise in infections to right?

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"QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2465229"My observation is that the recent "explosion" in United States confirmed cases relates directly to premature relaxing of 'stay at home' warnings in May by reckless state governors in states that did not meet the CDC guidelines.

Well Dickus, we can look at the results of the 2016-2017 flu season. According to the CDC estimates, 29 million people in the United States had symptomatic illnesses from the flu, resulting in 38,000 deaths.

With three million confirmed cases in the United States, about half of those three million have concluded (resulting in recoveries or deaths).

From these numbers, the CDC could speculate the 3 million confirmed cases represent 29 to 30 million actual infections (the same number of flu illness as the '16-'17 flu season).

When the other half of today's infections eventually resolve in recoveries, or deaths, the death count is likely to top 200,000 (from the current 132,000 count).

The'16-'17 flu season resulted in only 38,000 deaths (without the resulting damaged health to the millions of surviving, recovered patients). Year 2020 is much more than just a bad flu season.

Donald Trump and the Republican Party has made us Americans far worse off than we were four years ago.

Dozens of other (well managed) countries are handling Covid much better than the United States, with better results to show.

The vast majority of people make a full recovery from COVID with no lingering complications, How would the Democrats have handled this pandemic?, by Pelosi encouraging the Chinese people in China town to socialize like she did in February? Oh and the virus explosion as you call it happened because of irresponsible governors opening to soon? When should we open? Most everyone is going to get this virus, that is why they say we are trying to slow the spread, not stop it. And I guess the BLM protest had nothing to do with the rise in infections to right?

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"QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2464414"So your explanation for your belief that 1 million San Diego County residents are now infected with Covid-19 (and not just a CDC estimated ten-fold number exceeding the 15,696 confirmed cases) is that roaming bands of Chinese tourists didn't travel to other parts of the United States, but instead traveled all over San Diego County (prior to February) and coughed on other people in San Diego tourist venues?

Your right, I'm sure some Chinese tourist did venture to other parts of the United States, a few maybe wanted to see what a potato field looked likes in Idaho. Probably not on there priority list for their 2 week vacation though, But I am sure the vast majority of them went to the places I mentioned in my previous response, that is why the COVID cases were so high in those ares to start with. Now people from those places have spread the virus to to the lesser visited areas. But for the sake of argument my original disclaimer is reiterated.

[ScatManDoo]

I have taken a lot of time to dig into the data behind the media reports. I am convinced that while COVID-19 is real and has serious complications for older patients, that is has been way overhyped in the news. I believe that all of the facts you quoted above are correct. (except for the 35%, I don't think it's quite that high yet, but it's possible.) Furthermore, significant numbers of asymptomatic cases explain why it seemed to explode out of nowhere. .

My observation is that the recent "explosion" in United States confirmed cases relates directly to premature relaxing of 'stay at home' warnings in May by reckless state governors in states that did not meet the CDC guidelines.

That there are so many symptomatic carriers or people who show only mild symptoms means the death rate is much lower than scare-mongering media wants us to believe and likely no worse than a bad flu.

Well Dickus, we can look at the results of the 2016-2017 flu season. According to the CDC estimates, 29 million people in the United States had symptomatic illnesses from the flu, resulting in 38,000 deaths.

With three million confirmed cases in the United States, about half of those three million have concluded (resulting in recoveries or deaths).

From these numbers, the CDC could speculate the 3 million confirmed cases represent 29 to 30 million actual infections (the same number of flu illness as the '16-'17 flu season).

When the other half of today's infections eventually resolve in recoveries, or deaths, the death count is likely to top 200,000 (from the current 132,000 count).

The'16-'17 flu season resulted in only 38,000 deaths (without the resulting damaged health to the millions of surviving, recovered patients). Year 2020 is much more than just a bad flu season.

Donald Trump and the Republican Party has made us Americans far worse off than we were four years ago.

Dozens of other (well managed) countries are handling Covid much better than the United States, with better results to show.

[Goyo61]

Yes. Yes. And also. If you have any idea what ICU costs per day. If you have insurance thank god. If you don't. You just spent the same amount you would have to buy a small condo.

Goyo.

In just the last four months, Covid-19 has killed over twice as many Americans than died in the Vietnam War.

The United States was heavily involved in that war for (I think) over 9 years.

Perhaps more than a million Americans will face multiple months of recovery time and lingering health complications from having suffered through it and survived.

[ScatManDoo]

The CDC conclusion is based on normal cities without a lot of tourism. If you are a Chinese national where are you going to visit with your tourist visa, I would say Disneyland (have you ever been there and seen how many Asian tourist are there). Since your only 2 hours away how about a stop at the San Diego Zoo (the largest zoo in the world) and a quick stop at Wild Animal park which is on the way, How about a day at Mission Beach to relax, now lets multiply that by 8,000 people a day, after that you will conclude my estimate is not that far fetched.

So your explanation for your [Deleted by Admin] belief that 1 million San Diego County residents are now infected with Covid-19 (and not just a CDC estimated ten-fold number exceeding the 15,696 confirmed cases) is that roaming bands of Chinese tourists didn't travel to other parts of the United States, but instead traveled all over San Diego County (prior to February) and coughed on other people in San Diego tourist venues?