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[Scbb1]

Ten times the number of 15,696 is only 156,960, not the 1 million infected San Diegians as you assert.

Your faulty "common sense" is based on bad math.

The CDC conclusion is based on normal cities without a lot of tourism. If you are a Chinese national where are you going to visit with your tourist visa, I would say Disneyland (have you ever been there and seen how many Asian tourist are there). Since your only 2 hours away how about a stop at the San Diego Zoo (the largest zoo in the world) and a quick stop at Wild Animal park which is on the way, How about a day at Mission Beach to relax, now lets multiply that by 8,000 people a day, after that you will conclude my estimate is not that far fetched.

[ScatManDoo]

I have taken a lot of time to dig into the data behind the media reports. I am convinced that while COVID-19 is real and has serious complications for older patients, that is has been way overhyped in the news. I believe that all of the facts you quoted above are correct. (except for the 35%, I don't think it's quite that high yet, but it's possible.) Furthermore, significant numbers of asymptomatic cases explain why it seemed to explode out of nowhere. It appears when someone sensitive contacts an asymptomatic carrier. That there are so many symptomatic carriers or people who show only mild symptoms means the death rate is much lower than scare-mongering media wants us to believe and likely no worse than a bad flu.

Furthermore, the media has turned to complete rubbish. When I take the time to dig up the underlying info, the press accounts are almost always a completely distorted picture of what happened. How it's distorted depends on who's reporting it, but it's all bullshit.

In just the last four months, Covid-19 has killed over twice as many Americans than died in the Vietnam War.

The United States was heavily involved in that war for (I think) over 9 years.

Perhaps more than a million Americans will face multiple months of recovery time and lingering health complications from having suffered through it and survived.

[Dickus Maximus]

I am going to issue a disclaimer for my response and original post as I am not a medical professional and have been affected personally by COVID by having 3 sanctioned masters boxing tournaments disappear. I must now wait until the end of October to visit Tijuana just to get 2 fights in this year. My opinions are based on common sense. I will elaborate below:

1. The COVID 19 virus originated in Wuhan China sometime in the fall of 2019. We will never know the exact date due to an attempted Chinese cover up. That is a fact.

2. 8000 Chinese nationals from China including Wuhan visited California each and every day until 30 Jan 2020. That is a fact. So not one of them had the virus?

3. I contracted the virus in December of 2019 along with a lot of people from work. One with diabetes had to be put on a ventilator. That is a fact (however since the fear mongering media did not sink there teeth into COVID at that time I was not tested).

4. An out break occurred on a US aircraft carrier a few months back, 80% of the personnel were asymptomatic due to there good health and age. That is a fact.

5. Based on a CDC report the infection rate is 10 time higher based on antibody testing. That is a fact. See link.

https://www.10news.com/news/national...RC0m6xAzWdV_aU

6. Death rates from COVID have dropped to smaller percentage than when we were locked down, a lot of those deaths were people that died with COVID not because of it. The CDC says because of this COVID may lose it's epidemic status. See link.

https://justthenews.com/politics-pol...OzTscihllE9zHE

7. Based on the the amount of infections predicted by the CDC that have already occurred, the death rate is more like. 026%. My 35% infected population estimate is based on common sense, not the fear mongering media reports. You can take it or leave it.

I have taken a lot of time to dig into the data behind the media reports. I am convinced that while COVID-19 is real and has serious complications for older patients, that is has been way overhyped in the news. I believe that all of the facts you quoted above are correct. (except for the 35%, I don't think it's quite that high yet, but it's possible.) Furthermore, significant numbers of asymptomatic cases explain why it seemed to explode out of nowhere. It appears when someone sensitive contacts an asymptomatic carrier. That there are so many symptomatic carriers or people who show only mild symptoms means the death rate is much lower than scare-mongering media wants us to believe and likely no worse than a bad flu.

Furthermore, the media has turned to complete rubbish. When I take the time to dig up the underlying info, the press accounts are almost always a completely distorted picture of what happened. How it's distorted depends on who's reporting it, but it's all bullshit.

[ScatManDoo]

5. Based on a CDC report the infection rate is 10 time higher based on antibody testing. That is a fact. See link.

https://www.10news.com/news/national...RC0m6xAzWdV_aU

7. Based on the the amount of infections predicted by the CDC that have already occurred, the death rate is more like. 026%. My 35% infected population estimate is based on common sense, not the fear mongering media reports. You can take it or leave it.

Ten times the number of 15,696 is only 156,960, not the 1 million infected San Diegians as you assert.

Your faulty "common sense" is based on bad math.

[Scbb1]

That is not being asserted in countries that have managed the pandemic well, like New Zealand, Taiwan, Denmark, Norway & Canada, probably because it is not true.

According to Wikipedia: The ongoing COVID-19 pandemic was confirmed to have reached the United States in January 2020. The first confirmed case of local transmission was recorded in January, while the first known deaths happened in February. What source can you cite Scbb1?

You seem to be making a piss poor guess. San Diego County so far has reported 15,696 confirmed Covid-19 infections. If the real rate of infection was 10 times greater, then it would still be less than 1/2 of 1% of San Diego County residents (infected today). Remember, more than 3 million people live in San Diego County! Where (other than your ass) do you get your 35% infection rate?

I am going to issue a disclaimer for my response and original post as I am not a medical professional and have been affected personally by COVID by having 3 sanctioned masters boxing tournaments disappear. I must now wait until the end of October to visit Tijuana just to get 2 fights in this year. My opinions are based on common sense. I will elaborate below:

1. The COVID 19 virus originated in Wuhan China sometime in the fall of 2019. We will never know the exact date due to an attempted Chinese cover up. That is a fact.

2. 8000 Chinese nationals from China including Wuhan visited California each and every day until 30 Jan 2020. That is a fact. So not one of them had the virus?

3. I contracted the virus in December of 2019 along with a lot of people from work. One with diabetes had to be put on a ventilator. That is a fact (however since the fear mongering media did not sink there teeth into COVID at that time I was not tested).

4. An out break occurred on a US aircraft carrier a few months back, 80% of the personnel were asymptomatic due to there good health and age. That is a fact.

5. Based on a CDC report the infection rate is 10 time higher based on antibody testing. That is a fact. See link.

https://www.10news.com/news/national...RC0m6xAzWdV_aU

6. Death rates from COVID have dropped to smaller percentage than when we were locked down, a lot of those deaths were people that died with COVID not because of it. The CDC says because of this COVID may lose it's epidemic status. See link.

https://justthenews.com/politics-pol...OzTscihllE9zHE

7. Based on the the amount of infections predicted by the CDC that have already occurred, the death rate is more like. 026%. My 35% infected population estimate is based on common sense, not the fear mongering media reports. You can take it or leave it.

[ScatManDoo]

, my guess would be that 35% of San Diego's population has already had it. Some had no idea they had anything at all. The CDC announced based on antibody testing that the infection rate is 10 times more than what is reported.

Correcting my math in my prior post. With between 15 K and 16 K of confirmed Covid-19 infections in San Diego county, that is a infection rate of around 1/2 of 1% for the 3.1 million residents of San Diego County. If the real rate of infection is ten times greater, as CDC recently speculated, that's still only 5% of residents, not the 35% in your guess.

Why do you think that around 1 million of San Diego County residents are infected? If that were the case, San Diego hospitals would look worse than Tijuana & have most of their patients overflowing into hospital parking lots.

[ScatManDoo]

Most everyone is going to get COVID sooner or later,

That is not being asserted in countries that have managed the pandemic well, like New Zealand, Taiwan, Denmark, Norway & Canada, probably because it is not true.

the virus has been here since late November,

According to Wikipedia: The ongoing COVID-19 pandemic was confirmed to have reached the United States in January 2020. The first confirmed case of local transmission was recorded in January, while the first known deaths happened in February. What source can you cite Scbb1?

my guess would be that 35% of San Diego's population has already had it. Some had no idea they had anything at all. The CDC announced based on antibody testing that the infection rate is 10 times more than what is reported.

You seem to be making a piss poor guess. San Diego County so far has reported 15,696 confirmed Covid-19 infections. If the real rate of infection was 10 times greater, then it would still be less than 1/2 of 1% of San Diego County residents (infected today). Remember, more than 3 million people live in San Diego County! Where (other than your ass) do you get your 35% infection rate?

[DramaFree11]

Most everyone is going to get COVID sooner or later, the infection rates are up due to increased testing, the virus has been here since late November, my guess would be that 35% of San Diego's population has already had it. Some had no idea they had anything at all. The CDC announced based on antibody testing that the infection rate is 10 times more than what is reported.

So true, this why we should not be shutting down and returning to normal. I would say much higher then 35%. The world needs to get to normal, especially Mexico, but they continue to tighten up. This is going to be way worse financially then any of us could have ever imagined. What a mess.

[Scbb1]

Eight weeks ago I wrote that we seemed to jumping to fast into "reopening" in the United States.

The required guidelines for reopening were not being met, but instead ignored.

It brings me no joy to have been correct.

Most everyone is going to get COVID sooner or later, the infection rates are up due to increased testing, the virus has been here since late November, my guess would be that 35% of San Diego's population has already had it. Some had no idea they had anything at all. The CDC announced based on antibody testing that the infection rate is 10 times more than what is reported.

[ScatManDoo]

Seems to me that we are coming out of earlier "Stay at home" orders too soon. The federal suggested guidelines, which ended 5/1/20, called for us peeps going out more when the infection rates were on the decline for at least 14 days. None of the 20-some states moving towards letting down their guards have reached that 14 day goal.

Why would you want to come out from shelter when infection rates haven't sufficiently declined? Or not declined at all?

In many states the rate has not declined, only its rate of increase has declined.

I don't accept this false right-wing argument that coronavirus has a low death rate, like similar to the regular flu at. 1%.

Coronavirus is much more deadly, like around 11% or 12% in Italy of their confirmed cases. Similar for Spain. We might be experiencing a lower death rate in the United States than the rate in Italy. But our death rate in the United States health "system" is only around half or a third of of that of Italy, NOT 110 times lower.

Eight weeks ago I wrote that we seemed to jumping to fast into "reopening" in the United States.

The required guidelines for reopening were not being met, but instead ignored.

It brings me no joy to have been correct.

[Captain Solo]

With this $39 K FEMA's reimbursement, I volunteer for 3 months of CoVid treatment in the New Hong Kong Nursing Home with 100 hot chicas doing mouth-to-mouth ventilation and penile resuscitation therapies.

Would be far happier than being molested, violated and sexually abused by old, fat, ugly nurses in the US.

HK model very affordable for cash payment.

[Sound7]

FEMA Reimburse:

COVID including ventilator treatment $39,000.

Standard COVID. $19,000.

Typical Skilled Nursing Facility average daily rate $1,000.

Hospital average daily stay $10,000.

Comrade Sound7 has an excellent idea.

Hong Kong should reopen as a a skilled nursing home so the nurses can take care of the pervs and keep them very happy.

Death in Skilled Nursing Homes.

[Captain Solo]

Comrade Sound7 has an excellent idea.

Hong Kong should reopen as a a skilled nursing home so the nurses can take care of the pervs and keep them very happy.

Death in Skilled Nursing Homes.

[Sound7]

COVID Senior Death Rate in Los Angeles County and cities is extremely high as 90%+ of reported death in some cities and certain SNF.

First SNF in Pasadena closed yesterday, patients transfers (69) to other SNF.

I was at a Sharp clinic up here for something not related to the virus and it was dead! Amazing how few people were in the Sharp clinic. Bare-bones crew. The media and politicians can go back and forth about the danger level but the hospitals really give you a clue to how this virus is not the flu at any level.

Goyo.

[Goyo61]

Sharp Rees-Stealy Medical Group. Near Camino Ruiz and Mira Mesa blvd. Nice new building. Been going there for years for little stuff now and then.

Will see how they reopen over the next month etc.

Several people at my work have their health insurance in Tijuana at Simnsa just over the boarder and drive back and forth all the time.

Goyo.

Have no idea where this Sharp hospital is.

Looks like a lot of hospitals were ordered to delay all elective treatments to reserve room for Covid-19 patients, so they stay empty. There were news doctors and nurses got furloughed or hours reduced. People also vastly cancel or delay visiting their doctors so revenues are down. Healthcare workers are mad.

Even before CoVid-19 I know a few hospitals in SoCal that ran on empty most of the time. Their nursing staff are mostly temporary, careless types. Their doctors are known to make a lot of serious mistakes, some even fatal. They are known as death-trap hospitals. Rich doctors pool their money to build medical and surgeries centers that had very few patients, running on empty. A few were foreclosed.