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[Sound7]

Immunity to Ro = 30+, South Korea was able to contain the spread.

California at peak 3 to 4 SNF, NYC. Ro Max at SNF and assisted living.

One of my wingmen is an attorney who litigates medical malpractice and personal injuries cases. He seems to have a good grasp of medical issues.

He said CoVid-19 has mutated into more than 30 mutations so far, and will mutate into a very large number. It's impossible to vaccinate against all hundreds or thousands of mutations of this virus. He argues that eventually every one in the world will be infected sooner or later. There are no cures for the virus, only treating symptoms and assisting them with ventilators.

He said government social distance enforcement only aim to flatten out the infection and death curves, pushing infection and death incidents out to the future, may be indefinitely, just so that hospitals don't run out of beds and doctors. US death rate is 55.383 over 330 mil population or about 1 in 6,000 to date. There will be more death in May and death rate will be higher.

China claims 4,642 death to date with a population of 1.52 bil or 1 death per 327,000, 50 times lower than US, and much much lower than Italy, Spain, France, WTF? This figure is not credible, even ridiculous, unless China is full of supermen and superwomen hehe..

[LuvMexicanas]

The annual flu vaccine is only moderately effective, due to the mutations that occur, which is exactly Captain's point. And with that "vaccine", we still have 60,000 per year die. I think the science, when it is allowed to be heard, instead of being distorted by politicians, will show exactly what the Captain believes. Your chances of dying from this virus are very minuscule. Obviously, it depends on your age and overall health.

But Captain, your wingman is exactly right. This lockdown solved absolutely nothing. It did slow the inevitable outcome. It did protect our healthcare system from being completely overrun. But as restrictions ease, we will undoubtedly experience an uptick. Many will point to the easing of restrictions as the cause. But they need to consider exactly what you said. The outcome was just delayed.

I read about Sweden and others, and about how herd immunity doesn't work. That's a false argument. What are we comparing it to? Because I haven't seen an alternative, other than stay at home. That is not a solution, nor is it viable any longer.

You don't have to be an epidemiologist to use common sense and think for yourself.

ED has nothing better to do than pepper the Tijuana threads with his doom and gloom rhetoric.

[Dcrist0527]

And my wingman is the janitor at a liquor store next door to a hospital, and he says I should listen to actual experts, not your attorney friend.

Kidding aside, nobody in the news media is reporting this "hundreds of mutations" theory. It's true of the flu, but even there, there's the annual flu vaccine.

The annual flu vaccine is only moderately effective, due to the mutations that occur, which is exactly Captain's point. And with that "vaccine", we still have 60,000 per year die. I think the science, when it is allowed to be heard, instead of being distorted by politicians, will show exactly what the Captain believes. Your chances of dying from this virus are very minuscule. Obviously, it depends on your age and overall health.

But Captain, your wingman is exactly right. This lockdown solved absolutely nothing. It did slow the inevitable outcome. It did protect our healthcare system from being completely overrun. But as restrictions ease, we will undoubtedly experience an uptick. Many will point to the easing of restrictions as the cause. But they need to consider exactly what you said. The outcome was just delayed.

I read about Sweden and others, and about how herd immunity doesn't work. That's a false argument. What are we comparing it to? Because I haven't seen an alternative, other than stay at home. That is not a solution, nor is it viable any longer.

You don't have to be an epidemiologist to use common sense and think for yourself.

[WombatEd2]

One of my wingmen is an attorney who litigates medical malpractice and personal injuries cases...

He said CoVid-19 has mutated into more than 30 mutations so far, and will mutate into a very large number. It's impossible to vaccinate against all hundreds or thousands of mutations of this virus.

And my wingman is the janitor at a liquor store next door to a hospital, and he says I should listen to actual experts, not your attorney friend.

Kidding aside, nobody in the news media is reporting this "hundreds of mutations" theory. It's true of the flu, but even there, there's the annual flu vaccine.

[Captain Solo]

One of my wingmen is an attorney who litigates medical malpractice and personal injuries cases. He seems to have a good grasp of medical issues.

He said CoVid-19 has mutated into more than 30 mutations so far, and will mutate into a very large number. It's impossible to vaccinate against all hundreds or thousands of mutations of this virus. He argues that eventually every one in the world will be infected sooner or later. There are no cures for the virus, only treating symptoms and assisting them with ventilators.

He said government social distance enforcement only aim to flatten out the infection and death curves, pushing infection and death incidents out to the future, may be indefinitely, just so that hospitals don't run out of beds and doctors. US death rate is 55.383 over 330 mil population or about 1 in 6,000 to date. There will be more death in May and death rate will be higher.

China claims 4,642 death to date with a population of 1.52 bil or 1 death per 327,000, 50 times lower than US, and much much lower than Italy, Spain, France, WTF? This figure is not credible, even ridiculous, unless China is full of supermen and superwomen hehe.

I have been going to stores, food, markets, banks ect a few times every week since the lock down. Have not got infected yet. Even if I get infected I belong to the 5,999 population who will not die. So if La Zona opens back up, a few trips to party with the chicas won't infect or kill anyone. The chicas may even have anti bodies they can donate via DFKs.

Probability of contracting and dying with this virus is very low. Perhaps we should not be so scared. My wingman is a very careful guy. So I will wait for him.

[Sound7]

Plasma treatment in Tijuana?

Stay at Home Order.

New York 14 percent and= 3000.

California:

Northern 2 to 4 percent Stanford Study and=3000.

Southern 5 percent USC / LA and= 1000.

[ScatManDoo]

The Los Angeles Times published an article on April 19,2020 entitled "California lessons from the 1918 pandemic: San Francisco dithered; LOS Angeles acted and saved lives".

Here's my summary:

In the current COVID-19 pandemic, San Francisco was about a week ahead of LOS Angeles in responding. This is the exact opposite of what happened in 1918 in response to the Spanish Flu.

LOS Angeles had the first signs of a second peak mid-September 1918 when Sailors on a Navy ship in San Pedro Naval Base fell ill. By Oct 11, LOS Angeles moved to close down bars, pool halls, movie theaters, sporting event, church services and included an order to stop filming mob scenes for movies under production. LOS Angeles did not require masks except for those in contact with the sick. Civic group were successful in getting hotel rooms set aside for the poor and infirm. LOS Angeles lifted it's social distancing restrictions on Dec 2.

The first influenza case appeared in San Francisco about the same time. They did not shut down "All Places of Public Amusement" until Oct 18, but did not include churches. In San Francisco they went big on gauze masks ordering everyone to wear a mask on Oct 25. Those who did not were fined $5. San Franciscan lifted Social Distancing on Nov 16. On Nov 21 at noon the requirement to wear masks were lifted.

In all, LOS Angeles was practicing social distancing 23 days longer than San Francisco. However, a quick surge in LOS Angeles led to a re-closing of schools which remained closed until February 1919. San Francisco also had a quick surge and ordered masks back in place Jan 10 which would remain in place until February.

Results:

LOS Angeles experienced an excess death rate (The number of deaths above yearly expectations) of 494 per 100,000 residents. San Francisco experienced 673 excess deaths per 100,000.

In the current COVID-19 pandemic San Francisco started mandatory social distancing on March 11. LOS Angeles followed on March 15. Governor Gavin Newsom made staying at home statewide at midnight, March 19th. Gavin Newsom was first to marry gay men & the first governor to take effective action in fighting COVID-19, & in teaching new generations a 102 year-old lesson.

Seems the main thing LA could have done better 102 years ago, was to require more mask usage, which seems to be helping a lot in cities that are opening up now. Wuhan was shut down for 76 days, beginning January 22nd. Wuhan requires wearing masks in public, ever since re-opening on April 4th. (One of these dates must be wrong, since I only count 73 days, including 1/22 & 4/4). If you believe China's statistics (& other cities) that new infections are at or close to 0 with everyone in masks, then a clear path for opening up countries and areas can be seen.

Just the fact that this smarmy weasel got elected shows how far down the rabbit hole California has gone. CA is doomed.

Thank god that Gavin Newsom was here when California needed him.

[Captain Solo]

A student detained without charges for 2 months came out praising the police. Of course he would praise the police after being threatened and tortures.

There are lots of evidences and witnesses to prove criminal intent of a China's government's abuses of its citizen and cover up of CoVid-19 break out in Wuhan. The rest of the world should make China pay $6 trillion damage.

https://www.businessinsider.com/chin...edium=referral#fang-was-arrested-on-February-10-14.

At least 5 people in China have disappeared, gotten arrested, or been silenced after speaking out about the coronavirus — here's what we know about them.

Aylin Woodward Feb 20,2020, 8:06 AM.

Whistleblowers and citizen journalists in China are speaking out against the Chinese Communist Party and President Xi Jinping's handling of the coronavirus outbreak that originated in Wuhan.

Wuhan doctor Li Wenliang contracted the coronavirus after being silenced by local police. He died on February 7.

Other citizen journalists and critics in China have been censored or arrested after sharing information about the outbreak. Some have disappeared or are under surveillance.

More 75,000 people have gotten the coronavirus since December. (For the latest case total and death toll, see Business Insider's live updates here.).

Chinese law professor Xu Zhangrun recently posted a scathing review of the way president Xi Jinping and the Chinese Communist Party have handled the coronavirus outbreak.

"They all blithely stood by as the crucial window of opportunity to deal with the outbreak of the infection snapped shut in their faces," he wrote, suggesting that government censorship of information about the coronavirus hampered China's ability to control its spread.

Xu, who teaches at Beijing's Tsinghua University, added: "The cause of all of this lies with The Axlerod that is, Xi Jinping and the cabal that surrounds him."

The essay, published online February 10, was immediately taken down. Xu was placed under house arrest, cut off from the internet, and scrubbed from all social media sites, The Guardian reported.

His critique came three days after Wuhan doctor Li Wenliang died of the coronavirus. Li had sent a message to a group of medical school alumni, warning them about a mysterious new illness. But local police reprimanded and silenced him.

In addition to Li and Xu, at least three citizen journalists have disappeared or were arrested after sharing information about the outbreak on social media.

Here's what we know about all five of them.

A friend of Xu told The Guardian that the professor was placed under house arrest after he returned to Beijing following the Lunar New Year celebration.

"They confined him at home under the pretext that he had to be quarantined after the trip," the friend said. "he was in fact under de facto house arrest and his movements were restricted. ".

I understand that Professor #XuZhangrun is effectively under house arrest and barred from social media & internet. I am sharing his essay 'Viral Alarm: When Fury Overcomes Fear' to help keep his message alive. Pleases share if you can. http://www.chinafile.com/reporting-o...overcomes-fear .

The Guardian reported that guards were patrolling outside Xu's home last week, though they have since left. Xu remains incommunicado.

The law professor's name is notably absent from China's Weibo social network.

Xu's access to the internet has been cut off, and his social media account on China's WeChat messaging platform was shut down.

Logos of Chinese instant messaging apps WeChat and Bullet Messenger as seen in September 2018. Florence Lo / Illustration / Reuters.

According to The Guardian, many of Xu's friends have been unable to get in touch with him for days. One of the professor's friends anonymously reported that they had managed to text him but feared Xu was under surveillance.

"he has not directly responded (to my queries) but just told me not to worry," the friend told The Guardian.

Xu's essay ended with an ominous acknowledgement: "I can now all too easily predict that I will be subjected to new punishments; indeed, this may well even be the last piece I write. ".

This isn't the first time Xu has been punished for "speech crimes," according to his essay.

In 2018, he was placed under investigation by Tsinghua University after publishing another essay criticizing Xi Jinping.

"I was suspended from my job as a university lecturer and cashiered as a professor, reduced to a minor academic rank," he wrote, adding, "my freedoms have been curtailed ever since. ".

Another activist, Xu Zhiyong, published an article on social media this month urging Xi Jinping to step down.

The recent post from Xu, a civil-rights lawyer and public intellectual, called out the Chinese president for his "inability to handle major crises," according to the South China Morning Post.

Xu previously served four years in prison for his legal activism. He was arrested again on February 15 after being on run for two months following a police crackdown on a meeting of human-rights lawyers and activists that he attended in Xiamen.

The WeChat message Li sent to his medical-school contacts on December 30 told them about seven patients with an unknown virus. They had all worked at or visited the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market.

The same day, the Wuhan Municipal Health Commission published a notice warning that some people had contracted a type of pneumonia, possibly at the market. But the commission said "organizations or individuals are not allowed to release treatment information to the public without authorization," CNN reported.

Screenshots of Li's message had already gone viral, though.

"When I saw them circulating online, I realized that it was out of my control and I would probably be punished," Li told CNN.

A screenshot of the letter Li signed on January 3. Weibo.

Four days after sharing the message, Li was summoned to a police station. Authorities told him that his warning was illegal and had "severely disturbed the social order," the BBC reported.

According to the BBC, the letter he was told to sign read: "We solemnly warn you: If you keep being stubborn, with such impertinence, and continue this illegal activity, you will be brought to justice — is that understood?

Beneath that, Li wrote, "Yes, I do. ".

Li was not detained, and he returned to work.

After his release, Li unknowingly treated a woman infected with the coronavirus. Two days later, he checked himself into the hospital after showing symptoms. He died less than a month later.

While sick in the intensive care unit, Li continued to post on his Weibo account.

"I was wondering why the government's official notices were still saying there was no human-to-human transmission, and there were no healthcare workers infected," Li wrote on January 31 from his hospital bed, according to CNN.

Days before his death, he told the New York Times that officials could have done better at sharing information about the coronavirus at the beginning of the outbreak.

"I think it would have been a lot better. There should be more openness and transparency," he said.

Following Li's death, Chinese lawyer and citizen journalist Chen Qiushi went missing.

Chen traveled to Wuhan in late January and uploaded more than 100 posts from Wuhan to his Twitter and Youtube accounts over two weeks. His videos showed overwhelmed hospitals and medical wards.

Chen's friends and family have been unable to reach him since February 6, according to posts on his Twitter account. They say he was forcibly quarantined by Wuhan police. Chen's Weibo account — which had more than 740,000 followers — was shut down on the day of his disappearance, according to his friends and family.

On January 30, Chen uploaded a video to his YouTube channel in which he said police had called him wanting to know where he was and had questioned his parents, according to the Associated Press.

"In front of me is the virus, and behind me is the legal and administrative power of China," he said in the video. "Even death doesn't scare me! Do you think I'm scared of the Communist Party?

Chen's mother uploaded a video onto Chen's Twitter account after his disappearance, begging for help to find her son.

The Wuhan and Qingdao city police said they had no information about Chen's whereabouts when contacted by CNN.

This wasn't the first time Chen has been silenced by Chinese officials.

In this image from video taken Feb. 4, 2020 and released by Chen Qiushi, Chinese citizen journalist Chen Qiushi speaks in front of a convention center-turned makeshift hospital amid a viral epidemic in Wuhan in central China's Hubei province. Armed with smart phones and social media accounts, Chen and other citizen journalists in China are telling stories from the deadly epidemic in their own words, defying the ruling Communist Party's monopoly on information. Chen disappeared last week after garnering millions of views online. (Courtesy of Chen Qiushi via AP).

Chinese citizen journalist Chen Qiushi speaks in front of a convention center turned into a makeshift hospital in Wuhan. This image is from video taken February 4, 2020. Chen Qiushi via AP.

Chen traveled to Hong Kong in August to report on the protests there. After his trip, all of his social media accounts were deleted, he told Quartz in early February.

So this time, he added, "I gave my overseas friends all the passwords to my social media accounts like YouTube, and if I don't contact them for 12 hours they will change the passwords. ".

One of Chen's friends, Xu Xiaodong, posted an update on YouTube February 9 saying Chen had been "detained in the name of quarantine" for two weeks, despite showing no symptoms of the virus. According to the AP, Xu also said on Twitter that day that no one had been able to get in touch with Chen in quarantine.

"I risked my life to post the videos," Chen told Quartz, and added: "If I get arrested they could force me to delete all my videos on YouTube and Twitter, and that would be a great blow to me. ".

Blogger Fang Bin also got a call from the police in Wuhan. Authorities confiscated his laptop from his home on February 1 and brought him in for questioning. Fang filmed the encounter.

Fang told The LOS Angeles Times that authorities ordered him to stop posting "rumors" that would "spread panic" online.

The police released him the next morning. Fang posted a video suggesting that he was released because of the outpouring of support for his freedom on social media.

A video Fang posted on February 1 showed a hospital in Wuhan where eight body bags were being loaded onto the back of a truck. The footage also showed an overwhelmed medical clinic. It went viral.

After his release, Fang continued posting videos from hospitals across Wuhan.

"This pneumonia we see today, this Wuhan flu, it's both a natural disaster and a man-made problem," he said in one of his videos. "That's because they've covered up the facts. They muffled Li Wenliang for telling the truth. ".

Fang was arrested on February 10.

He refused to leave his home, according to Vice, so firefighters broke down the door after police surrounded the apartment.

The last video Fang posted to his YouTube channel came on February 9. In it, he repeated again and again: "All citizens resist, hand power back to the people!

[Captain Solo]

Mexico is a wild and lawless country with lot of very rough an stupid people. That's why they need policia patrolling every street.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/whats-wro...100011741.html

'What's wrong with you Mexico?' Health workers attacked amid Covid-19 fears.

Analy Nuño in Guadalajara The Guardian April 23,2020, 3:00 AM PDT.

Jovanna was walking home after a morning of hospital consultations when she heard a shout behind her. As she turned to look, she felt something wet in her face. Within seconds, her vision went cloudy and she smelled bleach.

"They picked me out because I was wearing scrubs," said the ear, nose and throat doctor from the Mexican city of Guadalajara, as she described the attack which left her with conjunctivitis and burns on her skin. "I didn't see anything – I don't know who it was, but I know they attacked another doctor on the same day. ".

In most of the world, medical staff have been lauded as heroes for their response to the coronavirus pandemic. But in Mexico, the growing number of Covid-19 cases has brought with it a wave of violence against nurses and doctors who have wrongly been accused of spreading the disease.

At least 21 medical workers have been attacked in 12 states across the country, according to Fabiana Zepeda, the head of nursing for the Mexican Social Security Institute.

Her voice breaking with emotion, Zepeda told reporters this week that many health workers had started to change out of their uniforms when they travelled to and from work, to avoid being targeted.

"I have worn my nurse's uniform for 27 years with great pride – as do doctors. But today we are taking off our uniforms because we don't want to be injured," she said.

So far, Mexico has seen 9,501 confirmed coronavirus cases, and 857 deaths, but health officials admit that the true infection level is at least eight times higher as the country has limited testing capacity.

On Tuesday, the health undersecretary Hugo López-Gatell who has led Mexico's response to the pandemic, announced that the virus had reached the stage of rapid spread, and warned that "a large number of infections and hospitalisations" were imminent.

The country's president, Andrés Manuel López Obrador, drew criticism for initially downplaying the need for social distancing measures, and doctors and nurses have held protests and strikes over the lack of personnel and safety equipment.

Meanwhile, health workers have themselves been stigmatised and blamed for spreading the disease.

On social media, health workers have been targeted by trolls, but doctors and nurses have also been barred from their homes, denied service in restaurants and supermarkets, forced out of buses and metro carriages – and even attacked in the streets.

Sandra, a nurse in the city of San Luis Potosí described in a Facebook post how she was attacked by a woman and her two children as she left a coffee shop on her way to the hospital.

"She hit me in the face, and I had no choice but to defend myself. We ended up on the pavement, me trying to defend myself because I was proudly wearing my white uniform. I fractured two fingers on my right hand," she wrote.

"What's wrong with you, Mexico? We're just trying to go to work. I care for you – but you don't care for me. No more attacks on health workers!

Some health workers have been forced from their homes.

After an eight-hour shift attending to suspected coronavirus patients at the hospital in the northern tourist resort of San Francisco, Melody found that the road into her home village had been blockaded.

Angry residents had closed the village, Lo de Marcos, to tourists and health workers. Melody was eventually allowed in under police escort – but only to collect her belongings and leave the village.

"It was really painful. I was scared for my safety – and I even ended up wondering if I really was spreading the virus. Now I'm staying with colleagues from the hospital because I have nowhere else to go. It's not fair," she said.

Zepeda, the chief nurse, called on Mexicans to remember the sacrifices that medical workers are making in their response to the epidemic. So far 150 health workers have contracted Covid-19 and six have died. "We beg those people who have attacked doctors and nurses to reconsider," she said. "We could end up saving your lives. ".

[Captain Solo]

https://www.borderreport.com/regions...ity-san-diego/

COVID-19 more lethal in Tijuana than sister city San Diego California by: Salvador Rivera.

Posted: Apr 22,2020 / 04:48 PM GMT-0600 / Updated: Apr 22,2020 / 04:48 PM GMT-0600.

SAN DIEGO (Border Report) — Despite having 76 percent fewer coronavirus cases, the Mexican city of Tijuana has almost the same number of COVID-19 deaths as San Diego County.

According to stats provided by Baja California's Secretary of Health, there have been 557 people infected with the virus in Tijuana, 86 of whom have died.

In San Diego County, 2,434 cases have been confirmed with 87 fatalities.

The results indicate that in Tijuana, 15 percent of those who get the virus will die, while in San Diego, the number is 3.5 percent.

Though the amount of testing being conducted can also result in a higher death rate, one of the primary reasons given for the disparity in numbers is that Tijuana significantly fewer respirators than San Diego.

And if the trend continues with escalating cases in Tijuana, they will run out of respirators by Saturday according to Alonso Perez, the state's Secretary of Health.

"We have 10 ventilators at our disposal in all the hospitals in Tijuana, we're trying to bring as many as we can get from neighboring communities such as Mexicali and Ensenada," Perez said.

He added that for every 12 people who test positive for COVID-19, one of them will require a respirator in Tijuana.

Perez said they are trying to acquire 60 ventilators from other public and private sources.

Visit the BorderReport.com homepage for the latest exclusive stories.

[Captain Solo]

Missouri is suing China over coronavirus impacts saying the country did 'little to stop the spread of the disease'.

By Christina Maxouris and Joe Sutton, CNN.

Updated 3:25 AM ET, Wed April 22,2020.

(CNN) Missouri is suing the Chinese government and other top institutions for the role they played in the coronavirus pandemic and the effects it has had on the state, accusing the country of covering up information, silencing whistleblowers and doing little to stop the spread of the disease, Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt announced Tuesday.

At least 6,105 people have been confirmed to have the virus in Missouri and at least 229 have died, according to numbers from Johns Hopkins University.

Schmitt, in his official role as attorney general of Missouri, filed the civil lawsuit in federal court in the eastern district of Missouri.

The lawsuit, the first of its kind, claims "Chinese authorities deceived the public, suppressed crucial information, arrested whistleblowers, denied human-to-human transmission in the face of mounting evidence, destroyed critical medical research, permitted millions of people to be exposed to the virus, and even hoarded personal protective equipment—thus causing a global pandemic that was unnecessary and preventable."

Legal experts have said the lawsuit faces an uphill battle because China is protected by sovereign immunity. CNN is reaching out to the Chinese government for comment.

Missouri's lawsuit alleges that while the Chinese medical community had indications of human-to-human transmission of the virus, they did not inform the World Health Organization when they first reported the outbreak.

It also alleges Chinese leaders did little to curb spread of the virus, still allowing thousands of people to travel to and out of Wuhan.

"In mid-January, on or around January 16, despite knowing the risks of doing so, Wuhan leaders hosted a potluck dinner for 40,000 residents, increasing the potential spread of the virus," it says. "Defendants allowed these massive public gatherings and massive exodus from Wuhan despite knowing the risks of COVID-19, including the risk of human-to-human transmission."

The filing also outlines how officials initially cracked down on medical professionals who posted information about the virus, including Dr. Li Wenliang, who was accused of rumor-mongering by the Wuhan police after sharing information about a new illness with his medical school alumni group. Wenliang later died of the virus.

The state also alleges China hoarded PPE while concealing the outbreak and that the small amounts they have released have been "faulty."

Those, among other actions taken by Chinese officials had a massive toll on human life and health and has led to "enormous" economic disruptions across the world, according to the lawsuit.

"Before the pandemic, Missouri had one of its lowest unemployment rates of the past decade, but on information and belief, Missouri's unemployment rate is now the highest it has been since the Great Depression," the suit claims. "Responding to the pandemic has required shutting down businesses, disrupting ordinary production and trade, and dislocating workers."

CNN's Chris Boyette and Hira Humayun contributed to this report.

[Artisttyp]

China is embarrassed.

Losing Face.

NOTHING good comes from China.

[Sperten]

Yea. And the democrats were shunning and complaining when he closed the border.

Chinas a horrible country which I've spent at least a 100 hours learning about from a utuber named serpentenza. Both before and since coronavirus. Once he left China 8 months ago he was able to really chew them to pieces. China, is Donald Trump, if he truly was a dictator and everyone had to just follow his orders. Trump even admits jealousy over its leader. If you know China, you know that it would be 100% impossible for it to admit fault. It's not in its customs to ever admit fault. So any government that expected or depended on China for ahead up would be a fool. With that being said, 90% countries would act like China did. Keep quiet, don't admit something terrible is going on. It took trump 5 weeks to close the border from 1st notification, as countries move slow in these things due to the ramifications economically and China is embarrassed. With all of that also being said, even if trump closed borders as soon as he found out, this disease, was here already, and if it wasnt it would be, no matter what anyone dis in any country, even China, once even 10 people had it, it was going to spread to the planet. I believe most people will get coronavirus before a vaccine is around. The media hype if vaccine is a fairy tale to keep the sheep indoors and quiet. It ain't comming for few years at best maybe never.

[Captain Solo]

Many doctors and nurses are infected, cannot work. Many days there are no doctors on the Covid19 ward.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation...ed-coronavirus

'Like a time bomb': Tijuana's hospitals under pressure and understaffed as coronavirus spreads.

By SANDRA DIBBLE, Wendy FRY April 20,20201:36 PM.

Tijuana — As Mexico faces rising numbers of coronavirus cases, Tijuana's Clinica 20 is just one more public hospital fighting on the front lines. The five-story facility in central Tijuana has too few doctors, limited equipment and the expectation that the patient load will only grow.

"From the time we got our first patient until we were full, it took only 10 days," said a doctor at Clinica 20. On the coronavirus ward, "many of the doctors and nurses are sick or on leave, and we have only about half the staff. Those who are there are working extremely hard, because there are few doctors and many patients with COVID-19."

Three doctors at Clinica 20 agreed to talk anonymously about their working conditions in the busy hospital. They said they had been forbidden from speaking publicly and risked losing their jobs if they were identified.

Each day, seven to nine suspected coronavirus patients at Clinica 20 are dying, with a similar number recovering enough to be sent home, one doctor said. By the time test results are returned, the patients often are already gone. "We weren't ready at the hospital for the situation to turn so serious in such little time," he said.

Clinica 20, officially called Regional General Hospital No. 20, is part of a network of hospitals funded through Mexico's social security institute, known as IMSS. Both of Tijuana's social security hospitals have been designated to treat coronavirus patients. A third public hospital — Tijuana's Hospital General — is also treating patients. It is operated by the state but supported with federal funds.

About 55 coronavirus patients were hospitalized at Clinica 20 last week. They have barely enough ventilators but have been able to cope, mainly because of the quick turnover of patients. Staff members who interact with coronavirus patients are getting protective equipment as stipulated by the World Health Organization. "The goggles are not the most adequate and the robes and gowns are not very high quality," a doctor said.

A few miles away, the staff at Hospital General is also dealing with the sudden onslaught of coronavirus patients. Dr. Pablo Villlaseñor, whose training is in rheumatology, said he turned to YouTube for guidance on how to safely put on and remove his disposable personal protective equipment when the first patients arrived in mid-March.

Federal health ministry figures show Baja California as one of the states with the highest number of confirmed cases. By Friday, Tijuana had counted 42 deaths, out of 72 statewide, according to the state's health ministry.

A woman is pre screened for COVID-19 by medical staff outside Hospital General Numero 1. (Alejandro Tamayo / The San Diego Union Tribune).

"This is not the worst it's going to get," said Dr. Clemente Zúñiga, an internist at Hospital General.

Zúñiga became infected three weeks ago after treating some of the hospital's first coronavirus patients and had to be hospitalized for seven days. He is now at home, preparing to return to work.

"It is very tense to work in the ward right now; we have a great team, and that's why we have survived," he said. "We know in two weeks we are going to have our hands full."

Tijuana's public hospitals are part of the complex and fragmented system that provides healthcare to a majority of Mexicans. The system has long suffered limitations, but the coronavirus pandemic has made its weaknesses increasingly apparent.

Over the years, it's a situation that's become "just like a time bomb," said Arturo Vargas Bustamante, a UCLA professor who has studied Mexico's healthcare system. "This pandemic revealed chronic under-investment in the public health system."

Some of those most vulnerable to the pandemic are the urban poor. Rodolfo de la Torre, an analyst at the Mexico City-based think tank Centro de Estudios Espinosa Yglesias said that, at some hospitals, the families of patients often have to supply medicine, bandages and other materials.

The system's underfunding "is an inherited problem, but it's a problem that this administration has not responded to," De la Torre said.

Clinica 20 has been in the spotlight across Mexico since a popular film and TV star, Eugenio Derbez, took to social media last week to call attention to the plight of the hospital's doctors. The actor's claim that medical staff lacked personal protection equipment such as goggles and N95 face masks generated a fierce social media rebuttal from a high-ranking administrator. But Baja California's governor, Jaime Bonilla, sided with Derbez and said that doctors in the state's social security hospitals were "dropping like flies."

Top officials with IMSS flew from Mexico City to Tijuana last week to conduct an inspection. They reported that 23 workers at the hospital had been infected with the virus, according to Reforma newspaper — including four in administrative positions. Epidemiologists reported that the contagion came both from inside and outside the hospital.

But it's unclear if those numbers were confirmed with testing. Due to a shortage of tests, only hospitalized patients are being tested, according to one doctor. Meanwhile, doctors with symptoms aren't being routinely tested and instead are sent home for 14 days of quarantine. "In my opinion, it's a way of hiding information, because the hospital does not want it known that many physicians are getting infected in this very hospital."

Clinica 20 is a 200-bed regional hospital that has served working and middle-class Tijuana residents for more than five decades. It sits off the Cinco why Diez intersection, a busy transportation hub for all corners of this city of 1. 8 million residents.

A block from the hospital on Friday morning, many people wore face masks as they rushed to and from bus stops and in and out of stores despite the city's stay-at-home recommendations.

Directly outside the facility, paramedics dressed in full hazmat suits disinfected an ambulance. Heavily protected staff directed lines of people outside the walk-in clinic, some of those waiting were coughing and wearing face masks.

Inside the hospital, anxiety has been mounting among many staff members, who complain they are not receiving N95 face masks and other protective equipment unless they are interacting directly with the suspected COVID-19 patients. Doctors say the IMSS is adhering to World Health Organization guidelines on personal protection equipment, but that is small comfort to other staff members.

"You never know if it's going to be your turn," a doctor said. "Someone who comes in with non-respiratory symptoms can be finally diagnosed with pneumonia."

A rush to buy protective equipment brought crowds of medical workers last week to a supply company in eastern Tijuana. Some two dozen people joined a queue, waiting for the opening of the warehouse — only to learn that supplies were sold out.

Public hospital workers said they were prepared to spend their own money for items such as face shields, goggles and coveralls. One nurse who is receiving protective gear when she is assigned to the coronavirus ward says one suit of gear isn't enough for an eight-hour shift. "Once you put it on, you cannot get a drink of water, you cannot go to the bathroom," the nurse said.

Growing numbers of Tijuana residents have been stepping forward to raise funds and gather donations for the beleaguered medical staffs. There have been cross-border efforts as well. The key will be coordinating among the different donors and hospitals, said Anne McEnany, president and CEO of the National City, Calif. -based International Community Foundation.

"We want to make sure that philanthropy is filling gaps that government is not covering, as opposed to trying to do everything," McEnany said.

Doctors say they are grateful for the donations. But they say the public can't fill their most pressing need: having enough staff to work with the growing numbers of COVID-19 patients.

At Hospital General, 12 doctors have so far tested positive for the coronavirus, said Dr. Villaseñor.

The staff shortage has meant that, on some shifts, no doctors are present on the coronavirus floor. The "patients are extremely ill, a great proportion of them are on ventilators, and under the effects of sedation," Villaseñor said. "This means they are extremely vulnerable.

Sandra Dibble and Wendy Fry are writers for the San Diego Union-Tribune. San Diego Union-Tribune staff writer Alexandra Mendoza contributed to this report.

[Dogers69]

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