Stupid Shit and Rants in Budapest

[Wiild]

Can I kindly remind you that the correct term is Romani people. I know that Romani people suffer increasing rascism in Hungary, Romania and possibly also in Serbia where you drago-esque people seems to be from but as this is an international forum, and many of us users come from more developed, open and liberal cultures where we are used to treating each other like equals, let's keep it civil and call them romani OK? They are people and should be treated with respect.

We see lots of complaints by many users in their reviews about gypsy girls.

[Hacsek]

Anybody who needs advice or help should contact Il Drago. There are numerous commending reports from users who were helped by him (myself included). Just look 'them up. The man is honest, efficient, reliable and above all he can be trusted.

He can save your time (that's crucial if you're in Budapest for a 2-4 days). It's not just girls. His invaluable advice about choosing restaurant, night club, tourist activity or even business related matter is second to none. As a Budapestian he's connected in all walks of life. Lawyers, doctors, accountants, restaurant owners are among Il Drago's personal friends. I was personally helped by a doctor (prescription medication) & a lawyer (company registration advice).

His expertise of any aspect of Budapest sex scene is top notch. It covers the whole spectrum, whether we're talking about cheaper girls (rosszlanyok or beszamolok) or more exclusive girls (high end escorts or pornstars).

Therefore, I recommend his help and I encourage new users (more experienced too) to ask for advice with confidence. F

Let's start by calling a spade a spade.

When I "help" someone it is free without any strings attached.

This is being done by hobbyists on every other ISG forum.

We usually have other names and descriptions for paid services.

If you believe it is worth the price by all means it is your money.

I for one will never use the services of middle men I don't even use agencies in Montreal because I will not go through a booker.

I only deal with independent escorts and directly with them, never needed a middle man never will.

[Judge Dread]

Thank you for all your contribution so far. Your one and most important contribution to this Budapest forum and all it's users have been warning about pimps and dangers that goes with that. It is most valuable thing to new users and old users to know here, so they will not lose their money or identity or even something worse.

It is one of most asked question here in my personal messages "what I should do ** ? And should I trust ** ? And can I pay ** ?" Everytime I answer NO! Do not send money in advance to anyone and do not tell your personal information to anyone in internet!

And I keep doing that as long people needs advise, you can use private messages or ask here directly from us honest Budapest regulars.

So thank you Wiild and Hacsek and Hhann and all the other honest older writers who have done the same, you guys keep this forum alive and safe!

While we're on the topic of private messages you should let users (new or experienced ones) decide what it's best for them instead of sending them private messages telling them (very aggressively) what to do. Freedom to choose is sacred.

Stop creating drama by talking about false danger. I don't believe in empty words. If I've had experienced any issues regarding my personal safety or privacy I'd have made it public. I'm certain the same goes for any other user here.

Have we seen such reviews from anybody? We haven't.

All you do is writing about this (user you dislike). Occasionally, you quote, praise users who share your opinion about this topic. It's really becoming tiresome.

[Judge Dread]

I was a bit surprised to see the "gypsy card" being played like that on this forum. Antiziganist (anti-Roma) feelings are rather widespread in Hungary, and sticking the label of "gypsy" on anyone or anything (like a website) is probably just a tool trying to depreciate the target. So it may work on a Hungarian forum, but I think that using it here is rather provincial and narrow-minded. Actually I know examples when guys coming to Budapest are explicitly interested in gypsy girls, because they have the reputation of being passionate in their country (just like Latinas), so I'm not sure this labeling is effective here.

If you ask my personal opinion and attitude, I wouldn't use this as a serious criterion. I could do it upon the "gypsy look", but actually many gypsy girls in Hungary have green eyes and a shade of skin colour well within the range of local average. Or I could do it upon their behaviour, but I find it a cheap stereotype, as I've had both good and bad experiences with them, just like with any other (ethnic) groups. And finally: if anyone would still like to avoid gypsy girls, he can very well do it using the two major sites, as they keep on featuring a lot of non-gypsy sexworkers.

Every topic should be addressed. We see lots of complaints by many users in their reviews about gypsy girls. The issue is real.

As such it should be discussed, dealt with. It's counterproductive to sweep it under the carpet or try to defend it without valid arguments.

Can you name users who travel to Budapest exclusively for gypsy girls? Perhaps, they would like to join discussion.

Why do you use quotation marks so often for things or people which are real? Gypsy girls are real. The same goes for high end escorts and pornstars.

[Judge Dread]

Anybody who needs advice or help should contact Il Drago. There are numerous commending reports from users who were helped by him (myself included). Just look 'them up. The man is honest, efficient, reliable and above all he can be trusted.

He can save your time (that's crucial if you're in Budapest for a 2-4 days). It's not just girls. His invaluable advice about choosing restaurant, night club, tourist activity or even business related matter is second to none. As a Budapestian he's connected in all walks of life. Lawyers, doctors, accountants, restaurant owners are among Il Drago's personal friends. I was personally helped by a doctor (prescription medication) & a lawyer (company registration advice).

His expertise of any aspect of Budapest sex scene is top notch. It covers the whole spectrum, whether we're talking about cheaper girls (rosszlanyok or beszamolok) or more exclusive girls (high end escorts or pornstars).

Therefore, I recommend his help and I encourage new users (more experienced too) to ask for advice with confidence. F

[Hacsek]

I was a bit surprised to see the "gypsy card" being played like that on this forum. Antiziganist (anti-Roma) feelings are rather widespread in Hungary, and sticking the label of "gypsy" on anyone or anything (like a website) is probably just a tool trying to depreciate the target. So it may work on a Hungarian forum, but I think that using it here is rather provincial and narrow-minded. Actually I know examples when guys coming to Budapest are explicitly interested in gypsy girls, because they have the reputation of being passionate in their country (just like Latinas), so I'm not sure this labeling is effective here.

If you ask my personal opinion and attitude, I wouldn't use this as a serious criterion. I could do it upon the "gypsy look", but actually many gypsy girls in Hungary have green eyes and a shade of skin colour well within the range of local average. Or I could do it upon their behaviour, but I find it a cheap stereotype, as I've had both good and bad experiences with them, just like with any other (ethnic) groups. And finally: if anyone would still like to avoid gypsy girls, he can very well do it using the two major sites, as they keep on featuring a lot of non-gypsy sexworkers.

I with you it is not right to stereotype, a gorgeous woman is just that, regardless of race or colour.

It just so happens that my ATF is of Brazilian heritage, with skin like golden silk, the kind women pay a fortune for in tanning salons.

She was raised as French Canadian but speaks 3 languages.

I have seen ones from many ethnic backgrounds and different skin colour but they can all be beautiful.

My preference is obviously Latina / Brazilian and actually some Roma girls have similar looks.

It is unfortunate that in Eastern Europe these prejudices still exist.

This is the same kind of mentality that thinks an "elite" or "pornstar" is somehow better than a gorgeous girl advertising on a local website or agency website.

There are just as many Princess " elite" girls and I use the term loosely that provide mechanical and horrible service as so called ordinary girls.

Service many times depends a lot on how the hobbyist is also, if you are clean, polite treat her with respect as if she was your real girlfriend you would be amazed at the fabulous time you can have with someone who others may have found mediocre.

[Hilvar]

And one more short remark: I would like to join in welcoming new contributors in the thread, especially Hacsek and Wiiild. I like your approach in general, and in most cases I also agree with you in the concrete issues you've posted about.

[Hilvar]

BTW I haven't been on a paid date since September, but in the summer and early autumn I was quite active for my standards (partly due to issues in my private life, just after a painful break-up and all), and I have at least three interesting positive experiences that I haven't yet mentioned here. I'm going to write about them as soon as I have a bit more time, and the girls' ads get active again after New Year's holiday, so that they can serve as recommendations as well (at least in two cases). And one of the girls was obviously gypsy, just to make it more teasing (smiley).

[Hilvar]

Actually Gypsy girls can be absolutely gorgeous whether they play a violin or not.

They are well versed in playing with other things also.

Then again there are other people that keep playing the same song also, but once we all know the lyrics it becomes repetitive and boring.

I was a bit surprised to see the "gypsy card" being played like that on this forum. Antiziganist (anti-Roma) feelings are rather widespread in Hungary, and sticking the label of "gypsy" on anyone or anything (like a website) is probably just a tool trying to depreciate the target. So it may work on a Hungarian forum, but I think that using it here is rather provincial and narrow-minded. Actually I know examples when guys coming to Budapest are explicitly interested in gypsy girls, because they have the reputation of being passionate in their country (just like Latinas), so I'm not sure this labeling is effective here.

If you ask my personal opinion and attitude, I wouldn't use this as a serious criterion. I could do it upon the "gypsy look", but actually many gypsy girls in Hungary have green eyes and a shade of skin colour well within the range of local average. Or I could do it upon their behaviour, but I find it a cheap stereotype, as I've had both good and bad experiences with them, just like with any other (ethnic) groups. And finally: if anyone would still like to avoid gypsy girls, he can very well do it using the two major sites, as they keep on featuring a lot of non-gypsy sexworkers.

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