Stupid Shit and Rants in Budapest

[Hacsek]

I guess you did.

We're here to suit our needs. The man you attack provided for me high end escorts and pornstars with good service (they were extra safe, all of them provided fresh medical, STD, test). There's nobody in this thread who can give better information about Budapest touristic offer than Il Drago. Man lives in Budapest (unlike you) and knows restaurants' owners personally, so he doesn't have to search internet to know which ones are the best (unlike you).

There are men like Il Drago in other threads (Sao Paulo for example). That man openly advertises his services as a local guide, nobody has a problem with that. I didn't see you or the members of your group infesting Sao Paulo thread attacking him. It is perfectly fine for me (not just for me, for many other men too) to pay for quality service. Is somebody's forcing you to use services of Il Drago? If not why do you have a need to think for others and try to impose your opinion? I certainly won't change my ways because of what you and your friends say. Freedom to choose is sacred. Remember? Don't try to impose your opinion to others, keep it to yourself. I hope you won't dodge my questions. Your friends Hilvar, Wiild, DreamK and FIAdventur always do. That's a trade mark of your group. They make a statement (mostly a lie) and when confronted to explain it, they never do.

I've never said I was a Hungarian, but Il Drago sure is.

Perhaps we should straighten a few things out.

Everyone is free to choose to do what ever he likes and spend his money whichever way he chooses, and I have said this a few times.

Next he is definitely not a tour guide. There are other names for it which everybody knows and understands.

I am not imposing my opinion on anyone, I am stating mine.

I have not met or know or even private messaged anyone on this board I don't have the capability and don't really need it. I do know many on the Montreal one as they belong to the same local board as I do and we all try to help visitors to our city free of charge.

Now I am wondering what is your vested interest in this white knight defense that you have embarked on.

In all honesty I couldn't care less what you or Il Drago does, I don't need help or advice on anything in Hungary, I was born there I speak the language I have many friends and relatives so I can manage quite well.

The only interest I had was as a Hungarian I like to see visitors to my homeland kept safe and given sound advice free and unsolicited.

Everyone can draw their own conclusions and if they want to spend more on a "tour guide" so be it.

Like Fiadventurer mentioned they have lost many real hobbyists / mongers over this and I have better things to do than play these games as well.

[Judge Dread]

I guess I misunderstood the whole concept of what this forum was about.

I thought we were here to give our opinions and recommend escorts who provide safe and a good service with perhaps information about anything else a tourist might enjoy to do in Hungary and about its culture and people.

I did not realize that it could also serve as advertisement for services. Now I have seen this before and I would welcome it if it was by the escorts themselves with photographs, websites, and clear explanation of services, but by a middleman not so much.

I am afraid there is always something lost in the translation even when someone claims to be Hungarian.

I guess you did.

We're here to suit our needs. The man you attack provided for me high end escorts and pornstars with good service (they were extra safe, all of them provided fresh medical, STD, test). There's nobody in this thread who can give better information about Budapest touristic offer than Il Drago. Man lives in Budapest (unlike you) and knows restaurants' owners personally, so he doesn't have to search internet to know which ones are the best (unlike you).

There are men like Il Drago in other threads (Sao Paulo for example). That man openly advertises his services as a local guide, nobody has a problem with that. I didn't see you or the members of your group infesting Sao Paulo thread attacking him. It is perfectly fine for me (not just for me, for many other men too) to pay for quality service. Is somebody's forcing you to use services of Il Drago? If not why do you have a need to think for others and try to impose your opinion? I certainly won't change my ways because of what you and your friends say. Freedom to choose is sacred. Remember? Don't try to impose your opinion to others, keep it to yourself. I hope you won't dodge my questions. Your friends Hilvar, Wiild, DreamK and FIAdventur always do. That's a trade mark of your group. They make a statement (mostly a lie) and when confronted to explain it, they never do.

I've never said I was a Hungarian, but Il Drago sure is.

[Judge Dread]

Let's start by calling a spade a spade.

When I "help" someone it is free without any strings attached.

This is being done by hobbyists on every other ISG forum.

We usually have other names and descriptions for paid services.

If you believe it is worth the price by all means it is your money.

I for one will never use the services of middle men I don't even use agencies in Montreal because I will not go through a booker.

I only deal with independent escorts and directly with them, never needed a middle man never will.

Let's. It's time to be transparent, expose those with an agenda and praise the one with unique offer.

There's a many different kinds of help. Maybe you are lucky to have a lawyer as a friend who will defend your interests for free, maybe. In a real world most of us pay a lawyer and are happy to do so when he delivers. I'm sure you catch my drift.

I don't care about other ISG forums. Why do you even bring them up in this thread? What's the point?

Crucial thing is, Il Drago delivers. That's a proven fact. Read Budapest and Belgrade thread, you'll find plenty of proof of that. I've reached out to him first, by my own free will. I'm happy paying for his services (I find them unique). He helped me (for free) when I needed prescription medication (a doctor he knows helped me with that) and when I was in a need of experienced lawyer (that gentleman gave me the information I needed for free, just because he was personal friend of Il Drago).

It's absolutely worth it. That's why I've recommended Il Drago to anybody I know and to all those users who asked me about him in a private messages.

Frankly, I don't care what you do. You shouldn't care what other people do. You obviously have an agenda as most of your posts look the same (criticizing same men). May I politely ask you to stop bring up Montreal in a thread of Hungarian capital?

[Judge Dread]

The forum was established as a place for guys to discuss mongering in various countries and help each other out with advice. It has been misused by one individual for his own personal gain. We have lost many good mongers over the years because they did not like that focus as it detracted from what the rest of us wanted. I expect that we have turned the corner here.

The forum was established as a place for guys to discuss mongering in various countries and help each other in any way that is okay between two (or more) grown up men. This thread has been misused by several individuals who're spreading flat out lies, false information, are making tension and creating fake picture of reality. You're one of them. As usual, you're throwing around false information. Who are those member that we've lost? Name names. I'm willing to bet anything you can't do that. You'll ignore this request as per usual as that's what you always do when somebody's ask you to explain your lies.

Over the years? I've been on this forum since 2010 (much longer than you). My posts are in a Budapest thread since day one. You started posting in a Budapest thread in mid May of 2017. You're a rookie in comparison to me. As such you can't say "over the years". You're here for one reason only, personal agenda against one man. Funny thing is, you used to praise and support that man. Here's the proof:http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...428&viewfull=1#post2132428. How can anybody trust you or believe you have integrity? Grown men will do what they think it's best for them. You and several friends of yours achieved nothing here.

[Hacsek]

At Hacsek: You are welcome to open a thread and provide opinions and information for escort services. However, please don't reduce the purpose of this forum to escorts. Please don't bring in the dreadful scene of North America into Europe. I take your posts positively and at face value, and if in fact you can contribute as a Hungarian, please know that many including myself, prefer not to deal with escorts, but have a great night out or party time, and meet women face to face, other than spend hours punching numbers and reading their online reviews.

I don't really think the escort scene is dreadful at all in Canada, you are right in the US it is and that is not my intention to compare it to Europe, although it would make for an interesting discussion.

You are also correct that my posts were maybe starting to be about one subject and I have made my opinion on it I think quite obvious.

I am glad to see that there are tourists like you who like to meet civilian women, which is what I have done most times in Hungary especially in my youth.

Hungary is a wonderful place to visit, not only Budapest, there are many other cities, like Pecs, Eger, Miskolc, Debrecen, Szeged, the people are warm and welcoming, the food is comparably to the best that can be found anywhere, and the women are gorgeous.

As you can tell I am proud of my heritage and happy to hear when visitors to my homeland enjoy being there.

[Questner]

At Hacsek: You are welcome to open a thread and provide opinions and information for escort services. However, please don't reduce the purpose of this forum to escorts. Please don't bring in the dreadful scene of North America into Europe. I take your posts positively and at face value, and if in fact you can contribute as a Hungarian, please know that many including myself, prefer not to deal with escorts, but have a great night out or party time, and meet women face to face, other than spend hours punching numbers and reading their online reviews.

[FlAdventurer]

I guess I misunderstood the whole concept of what this forum was about.

I thought we were here to give our opinions and recommend escorts who provide safe and a good service with perhaps information about anything else a tourist might enjoy to do in Hungary and about its culture and people.

I did not realize that it could also serve as advertisement for services. Now I have seen this before and I would welcome it if it was by the escorts themselves with photographs, websites, and clear explanation of services, but by a middleman not so much.

I am afraid there is always something lost in the translation even when someone claims to be Hungarian.

The forum was established as a place for guys to discuss mongering in various countries and help each other out with advice. It has been misused by one individual for his own personal gain. We have lost many good mongers over the years because they did not like that focus as it detracted from what the rest of us wanted. I expect that we have turned the corner here.

[Hacsek]

Anybody who needs advice or help should contact Il Drago. There are numerous commending reports from users who were helped by him (myself included). Just look 'them up. The man is honest, efficient, reliable and above all he can be trusted.

He can save your time (that's crucial if you're in Budapest for a 2-4 days). It's not just girls. His invaluable advice about choosing restaurant, night club, tourist activity or even business related matter is second to none. As a Budapestian he's connected in all walks of life. Lawyers, doctors, accountants, restaurant owners are among Il Drago's personal friends. I was personally helped by a doctor (prescription medication) & a lawyer (company registration advice).

His expertise of any aspect of Budapest sex scene is top notch. It covers the whole spectrum, whether we're talking about cheaper girls (rosszlanyok or beszamolok) or more exclusive girls (high end escorts or pornstars).

Therefore, I recommend his help and I encourage new users (more experienced too) to ask for advice with confidence. F

I guess I misunderstood the whole concept of what this forum was about.

I thought we were here to give our opinions and recommend escorts who provide safe and a good service with perhaps information about anything else a tourist might enjoy to do in Hungary and about its culture and people.

I did not realize that it could also serve as advertisement for services. Now I have seen this before and I would welcome it if it was by the escorts themselves with photographs, websites, and clear explanation of services, but by a middleman not so much.

I am afraid there is always something lost in the translation even when someone claims to be Hungarian.

[Hacsek]

Drago-man, I was not trying to teach YOU anything. You are untouchable of course, you know what the P-shot is, you is the MAN. What I was trying to do was to teach the dreadful judge about not being such a racist. He is a self proclaimed important international businessman with fine taste, staying in only five star luxury establishment, a high level guy like him should know better than to show such hate. I suspect he has a lot of hate within him, I would love to give him a hug. Please give him a hug if you see him?

Perhaps you should give a group hug to all three IL Drago, Kolbino, and Judge Dread, after all they all have similar luxury tastes and seem to like the same things in life. Group hugs are so much fun or would that be too much like hugging the same person.

[Wiild]

Drago-man, I was not trying to teach YOU anything. You are untouchable of course, you know what the P-shot is, you is the MAN. What I was trying to do was to teach the dreadful judge about not being such a racist. He is a self proclaimed important international businessman with fine taste, staying in only five star luxury establishment, a high level guy like him should know better than to show such hate. I suspect he has a lot of hate within him, I would love to give him a hug. Please give him a hug if you see him?

There is a great movie with some iconic / masterful actors in it, the movie is called Glengarry Glen Ross. In it there is a legendary line by Al Pacino that says:"You never open your mouth until you know what the shot is. "You are that guy, the one who constantly opens his mouth never knowing what the shot is. You are going to teach a Hungarian things about Hungary? Good luck with that. Gypsy people call themselves gypsy. There is even a song Cigany vagyok, I am a gypsy. Porn star Darcia Lee, when I asked her about this subject, proudly told me: En cigany vagyok, nem roma! I am a gypsy, not a roma! I am sure she & other gypsy people know better than you. "Drago-esque people"? That sounds like a derogatory / discriminatory term. Are you not being contradictory? I know many gypsy people personally & I treat them just like anyone else, with respect, as long as they deserve to be treated that way. Respect is not a gift you have to earn it. Key thing is, ordinary gypsy girls on beszamolok & rosszlanyok are notorious for their bad attitude / service. That is a fact.

[Hacsek]

There is a great movie with some iconic / masterful actors in it, the movie is called Glengarry Glen Ross. In it there is a legendary line by Al Pacino that says:"You never open your mouth until you know what the shot is. "You are that guy, the one who constantly opens his mouth never knowing what the shot is. You are going to teach a Hungarian things about Hungary? Good luck with that. Gypsy people call themselves gypsy. There is even a song Cigany vagyok, I am a gypsy. Porn star Darcia Lee, when I asked her about this subject, proudly told me: En cigany vagyok, nem roma! I am a gypsy, not a roma! I am sure she & other gypsy people know better than you. "Drago-esque people"? That sounds like a derogatory / discriminatory term. Are you not being contradictory? I know many gypsy people personally & I treat them just like anyone else, with respect, as long as they deserve to be treated that way. Respect is not a gift you have to earn it. Key thing is, ordinary gypsy girls on beszamolok & rosszlanyok are notorious for their bad attitude / service. That is a fact.

I can't believe that for once I am going to agree with you to a certain extent.

Gypsies in Hungary do refer to themselves as Cigány or Gypsy just as often as Roma, there are hundreds of songs that I could name (not sing, you would not want that) that are sung by Gypsy singers that all refer to themselves intermittently as both Cigány and Roma.

Apart from that there is still rampant discrimination in Hungary and all over Europe against the Roma.

As far as ordinary gypsy girls have bad attitudes / service compared to others, I don't believe that for a minute, they are no different than any other white, black or "elite" pornstars.

Women are women, you treat them with kindness, respect, don't haggle unreasonably over their rates and you can have a fabulous time with them.

[FlAdventurer]

Rosszlanyok is full Romani girls, Romanian girls, girls with dark skin. The situation seems to be same here in Budapest, Belgrade and Sofia. In Vienna, most of the girls in laufhaus are Romanian, the same in FKK in Germany.

In which country should I go to see white European girls? I regret that Romani suffer prejudice in several European countries. And I am into European white girls.

I just now went to rosszlanyok and pulled up all girls as my criteria and am puzzled that you are unable to find beautiful white girls (a tan does not make a girl non white) and I see the majority of girls are white. I also see some girls that may be Romani. I met a girl years ago in Aachen, Germany and she was one of the best experiences and best looking I have ever seen. So, I think you are in the right place if you are looking in Hungary. If you like, we can compare, but I would steer you to Hungary as I think as a whole, the girls on rosszlanyok are fairly representative of the beautiful women of Hungary. I have traveled extensively in Hungary, and not just Budapest, and throughout Europe. I also spend 6 weeks a year in Asia so I get to sample many ladies from various countries. For my money, you just can't beat what we have in front of us. And although there are a few people that struggle with how to use the filters or how to contact the girls on rosszlanyok, for the vast majority of experienced mongers, we come back from Hungary very satisfied. You really have to be looking for reasons to hire help if the tips in the blog below are not a blueprint for success in Hungary. Yes, there are a few that have their own agenda and try to make a living making introductions, but that is your call.

If anyone has serious questions after reviewing the blog, http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...ng-in-Budapest , I would urge you to invest a small amount of money in a subscription to International Sex Guide and then you can start a dialogue with specific questions about any of the girls we have met with. No fee, I don't need your private information, and you don't need to take a chance on me. I am always willing to help anyone on here that helps themselves. Please start by reading the blog, it is the result of many senior mongers that post consistently on this forum. Good luck!

[Il Drago]

Indeed!

https://mindfulmermaid.com/stopsayinggypsy/

Do not try to teach Hungarian about Hungary. Zsofi Szabo, Hungarian TV host & actress who is married to a gypsy man clearly prefers to use word gypsy. She said that a gypsy is not a bad / offensive word. She even said:"I am a gypsy too because my husband is a gypsy & we are a family. So, if a well known Hungarian celebrity is publicly calling her gyspy husband not a roma, but gypsy, that is a proof, it is okay to use word gypsy.

https://www.blikk.hu/sztarvilag/szta...vagyok/4vfz97j

[Il Drago]

Rosszlanyok is full Romani girls, Romanian girls, girls with dark skin. The situation seems to be same here in Budapest, Belgrade and Sofia. In Vienna, most of the girls in laufhaus are Romanian, the same in FKK in Germany.

In which country should I go to see white European girls? I regret that Romani suffer prejudice in several European countries. And I am into European white girls.

You can see & meet white girls in both Belgrade & in Budapest.

[Il Drago]

Can I kindly remind you that the correct term is Romani people. I know that Romani people suffer increasing rascism in Hungary, Romania and possibly also in Serbia where you drago-esque people seems to be from but as this is an international forum, and many of us users come from more developed, open and liberal cultures where we are used to treating each other like equals, let's keep it civil and call them romani OK? They are people and should be treated with respect.

There is a great movie with some iconic / masterful actors in it, the movie is called Glengarry Glen Ross. In it there is a legendary line by Al Pacino that says:"You never open your mouth until you know what the shot is. "You are that guy, the one who constantly opens his mouth never knowing what the shot is. You are going to teach a Hungarian things about Hungary? Good luck with that. Gypsy people call themselves gypsy. There is even a song Cigany vagyok, I am a gypsy. Porn star Darcia Lee, when I asked her about this subject, proudly told me: En cigany vagyok, nem roma! I am a gypsy, not a roma! I am sure she & other gypsy people know better than you. "Drago-esque people"? That sounds like a derogatory / discriminatory term. Are you not being contradictory? I know many gypsy people personally & I treat them just like anyone else, with respect, as long as they deserve to be treated that way. Respect is not a gift you have to earn it. Key thing is, ordinary gypsy girls on beszamolok & rosszlanyok are notorious for their bad attitude / service. That is a fact.