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  1. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDough  [View Original Post]
    I find that taking zinc supplements can increase muscle stiffness. It speeds up the rate of decalcification, thereby draining magnesium reserves from the muscles. Taking sufficient magnesium can prevent this problem.
    Do you have any recommendation about the magnesium dosage and types preferred? Currently doing triple type and what I consider pretty high doses (600-1200 MG / day). Where can we expext it to plateau?

  2. #122
    Quote Originally Posted by ChuchoLoco  [View Original Post]
    I do have muscle stiffness. Have zinc pincolate 50's, one a week then. MG Malate but 650 so will get lower dose. Thanks for the great info.
    I find that taking zinc supplements can increase muscle stiffness. It speeds up the rate of decalcification, thereby draining magnesium reserves from the muscles. Taking sufficient magnesium can prevent this problem. Taking vitamin D3 supplements can also reduce your muscle levels of magnesium and increase muscle stiffness, since magnesium is used up when the body converts D3 to the active form.

  3. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by XXL  [View Original Post]
    This can serve as a test: if you go from an ejaculation to nearly premature ejaculation as soon as a young hot girl lets you ride her bareback, there's nothing wrong with your testosterone or magnesium and whatnot.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coolidge_effect

    "The Coolidge effect is a biological phenomenon whereby males exhibit renewed sexual interest whenever a new female is introduced, even after sex with prior but still available sexual partners. The Coolidge effect can be attributed to an increase in sexual responsiveness, and a shortening of the sexual refractory period. The Coolidge effect is attributed to an increase in dopamine levels and the subsequent effect upon an animal's limbic system".

    https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/ybop...e-effect-2011/

    "Following each copulation with the same female his reward circuitry squirts less and less dopamine. Consider the graph. The fifth time a rat copulates with the same female it takes him 17 minutes to get off. Ejaculation time increases as dopamine released decreases. But if he keeps switching to novel females, he can do his duty very quickly all five times. His brain renews his virility with strong squirts of dopamine in response to each new partner. Unlike rats, humans are pair bonders. But the Coolidge Effect lurks in us, too".
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  4. #120
    Quote Originally Posted by Aureliano16  [View Original Post]
    Today after brushing my teeth I realized that my gums bleed extremely easily, and this has always been like this for me since a few years. Like even with normal usage of dental floss or with normal toothbrushing, I always tend to get some blood. Could this be related to some vitamin deficiency?
    There are various possible causes of bleeding gums, including vitamin and mineral deficiencies. I had a problem with both plaque and bleeding gums that improved after I took vitamin K2 MK7. I also found that zinc supplements help prevent gum and nose bleeding, as well as reduce plaque on the teeth. Zinc also helps control bacteria in the mouth that cause gum disease.

    https://www.webmd.com/oral-health/bl...her-conditions

    "Bleeding gums are a sign of gingivitis, or inflammation of your gums. It's a common and mild form of gum disease, and it's caused by a buildup of plaque at your gumline".

    "A severe shortage of vitamin C in your body can lead to scurvy. Bleeding gums are a typical sign of scurvy".

    https://www.news-medical.net/health/...Concerned.aspx

    "One form of anemia is pernicious anemia, associated with Vitamin B12 malabsorption, which also causes bleeding from the gums".

    https://www.janssendentalclinic.com/...al-deficiency/

    "Dr. Craig Janssen recommends adding a daily regimen of specific supplements to address cases of bleeding gums from nutritional deficiency. Key among supplements you should consider are vitamin D3, vitamin K2, vitamin C, magnesium, zinc, and iodine".

    https://www.rrdch.org/blog/effect-zi...y-oral-health/

    "if your body is deficient of zinc it automatically means that your oral health is at risk already. Your bleeding gums would not heal faster if your body is deprived of zinc because without zinc your body cannot transport the Vitamin A that your gums need in order to heal naturally".

  5. #119
    Quote Originally Posted by ChuchoLoco  [View Original Post]
    Do you have any experience with DIM for lowering or balancing estrogen levels in men?
    DIM.

    Zinc.

    Fenugreek.

    Tribulus terrestris.

    Tongkat Ali.

    Maca Peruana.

    Vitamin K2.

    Yohimbe.

    The list goes on of supplements supposed to boost testosterone or to curb oestrogen. At the end of the day they may only do good to the vendors. For most of us the problem is not testosterone. The problem is girls not young / hot enough, at the same time the body having enough of the condom.

    This can serve as a test: if you go from anejaculation to nearly premature ejaculation as soon as a young hot girl lets you ride her bareback, there's nothing wrong with your testosterone or magnesium and whatnot.

    Everything and its exact opposite is a sex-drive booster these days. Make-work jobs for scientists and money for the snake oil industry.

    The screenshot is an example on how the internet can drive us crazy. It concerns melatonin. As you can see, "serious" science makes it both an aromatase inhibitor AND an aromatase promoter, lol.
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  6. #118
    Today after brushing my teeth I realized that my gums bleed extremely easily, and this has always been like this for me since a few years. Like even with normal usage of dental floss or with normal toothbrushing, I always tend to get some blood. Could this be related to some vitamin deficiency?

  7. #117
    Quote Originally Posted by Artisttyp  [View Original Post]
    Try using Marijuana. It works wonders for sex.
    That sounds interesting. Please supply more details, like when to take it and what effects it has.

  8. #116
    Quote Originally Posted by Lamboos  [View Original Post]
    What sort of tests would you recommend that even a healthy individual should get done every once in a while?
    It wouldn't hurt to have your vitamin B12 and D3 levels tested. Alternatively, it should be safe to supplement B12 occasionally. I've never had any side effects. I buy one bottle every year. It is the only B vitamin that is stored in the body.

    https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-sup...2/art-20363663

    "When taken at appropriate doses, vitamin B12 supplements are generally considered safe. While the recommended daily amount of vitamin B12 for adults is 2.4 micrograms, higher doses have been found to be safe. Your body absorbs only as much as it needs, and any excess passes through your urine".

    If you get your vitamin D3 from sunshine, then you shouldn't have to worry about taking too much. Humans evolved to live outdoors without sunscreen. If you take supplements, there is controversy over the appropriate amount. 5,000 iu per day or less is generally considered safe. If you are deficient, then higher doses would be appropriate, but you would need to get tested to know. The biggest danger to higher doses of D3 is if you are deficient in magnesium or vitamin K2. This is especially true for older people, who are more likely to have calcium plaque in their arteries. Vitamin D3 is converted in the body to the active form. This process uses up magnesium. It is a good idea to supplement magnesium when getting D3 orally or from sunshine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lamboos  [View Original Post]
    What sort of tests does one have to do to measure mineral levels?
    Mineral levels are difficult to test. Most lab tests are done on blood serum levels. However, the body strives to maintain consistent blood levels. These tests won't measure tissue levels, where most of the minerals reside.

    https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/10/9/1202

    "the much larger exchangeable pool of magnesium is more often called upon to augment blood levels to maintain a narrow range preferentially, which is a key reason why blood measurements can easily mask deficiency. The tight control of magnesium serum levels, representing only 0.8% of total body stores, therefore serves as a poor proxy for the 99.2% of magnesium in other tissues that constitutes the body's true magnesium status".

    Quote Originally Posted by Lamboos  [View Original Post]
    Also, saw this one post which mentions taking multivitamin supplements to be a wasteful endeavor. It classifies taking multivitamins as one of out 8 habits that are usually considered good but actually could do more harm than good. The article suggests taking a dietary route instead of popping pills.

    https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/blog...-be-so-healthy
    Some vitamin supplements work and some don't. As I've previously posted, synthetic vitamin K2 MK4 supplements didn't work for me and studies prove they don't work. Vitamin K2 MK7 supplements are made naturally from bacterial fermentation using Natto bacteria. They worked for me, based on the smooth teeth effect, and studies prove they work. Generally speaking, vitamins produced using bacteria will work.

    I don't take multivitamins. One problem they have is that they contain a combination of vitamins that work and some that don't. Another problem is that they usually contain large amounts of calcium. Most people get too much calcium and not enough magnesium in their diet. Combined with vitamin K2 deficiency, that causes plaque in the arteries, the leading cause of death by heart attack and also erectile dysfunction. Most people need to remove excess calcium from their body. Why take more and make the problem worse (more harm than good)?

    Getting your nutrients from food is the best way. Unfortunately, that isn't always possible or practical. For example, vitamin K2 is only found in sufficient quantities in rare foods that most people don't eat, like natto, goose liver and emu oil. It makes sense to use supplements for K2. Iodine deficiency used to be very common, so now it is added to salt. I like to use a combination of foods high in nutrients and also selected supplements.

  9. #115

    Great info

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDough  [View Original Post]
    The most common symptom of low magnesium is muscle tightness. You will feel more limber if you increase your muscle storage levels. Low magnesium can cause insomnia. Magnesium is a good sleep aid if taken at night. I've tried many forms of magnesium and they all work. The only difference is the amount absorbed by the body. The ones with the lowest absorption rate have the highest dose per capsule (magnesium oxide) and are the least expensive. The ones with the highest absorption rate have the lowest dose per capsule (magnesium glycinate) and are the most expensive. The rest are in between. Magnesium attracts water and helps prevent dehydration. Unfortunately, the supplements retain the water you drank in your digestive tract instead of letting you absorb it. This can cause loose stools or even diarrhea, depending on how much you take. If you are prone to constipation, magnesium supplements can relieve it.

    I prefer to take magnesium glycinate because the lower dose causes less diarrhea. That is only an issue if you take several capsules per day. There are supplements labelled magnesium bisglycinate that are usually a combination of the glycinate and oxide forms. They do that to increase the dose per capsule and fool you into thinking it is all glycinate. Take the ones you already have. If they give you loose stools then consider switching to something different. If you eat a lot of meat, then the cheap ones might work better for you, since meat can cause constipation. There is another type called magnesium malate, that contain malic acid. Malic acid is what makes apples sour. It is supposed to have some health benefits. It is difficult to get too much magnesium since diarrhea will flush it out before you can absorb it. Magnesium citrate solution is used as a laxative before surgery or colonoscopy.

    Any form of zinc supplement will work. The most common is zinc gluconate. Take zinc with food to prevent nausea. Men need more zinc than women because some is lost every time they ejaculate. You could safely take 10 MG per day on a long term continuous basis. Supplements are commonly sold at a dose of 50 MG. That is okay for a month or two, but is too much for the long term, unless you only take it once or twice a week. Zinc and copper balance each other. Taking too much of one will cause a deficiency of the other. There are supplements with zinc and copper together. If you have grey hair, consider taking those.
    I do have muscle stiffness. Have zinc pincolate 50's, one a week then. MG Malate but 650 so will get lower dose. Thanks for the great info.

  10. #114
    Quote Originally Posted by ChuchoLoco  [View Original Post]
    I will try adding some magnesium and zinc which I have had because I too read about their benefits but can't remember why or when. Hahaha. You may have answered this before but which MG do you recommend. There are so many types out there with different uptakes.
    The most common symptom of low magnesium is muscle tightness. You will feel more limber if you increase your muscle storage levels. Low magnesium can cause insomnia. Magnesium is a good sleep aid if taken at night. I've tried many forms of magnesium and they all work. The only difference is the amount absorbed by the body. The ones with the lowest absorption rate have the highest dose per capsule (magnesium oxide) and are the least expensive. The ones with the highest absorption rate have the lowest dose per capsule (magnesium glycinate) and are the most expensive. The rest are in between. Magnesium attracts water and helps prevent dehydration. Unfortunately, the supplements retain the water you drank in your digestive tract instead of letting you absorb it. This can cause loose stools or even diarrhea, depending on how much you take. If you are prone to constipation, magnesium supplements can relieve it.

    I prefer to take magnesium glycinate because the lower dose causes less diarrhea. That is only an issue if you take several capsules per day. There are supplements labelled magnesium bisglycinate that are usually a combination of the glycinate and oxide forms. They do that to increase the dose per capsule and fool you into thinking it is all glycinate. Take the ones you already have. If they give you loose stools then consider switching to something different. If you eat a lot of meat, then the cheap ones might work better for you, since meat can cause constipation. There is another type called magnesium malate, that contain malic acid. Malic acid is what makes apples sour. It is supposed to have some health benefits. It is difficult to get too much magnesium since diarrhea will flush it out before you can absorb it. Magnesium citrate solution is used as a laxative before surgery or colonoscopy.

    Any form of zinc supplement will work. The most common is zinc gluconate. Take zinc with food to prevent nausea. Men need more zinc than women because some is lost every time they ejaculate. You could safely take 10 MG per day on a long term continuous basis. Supplements are commonly sold at a dose of 50 MG. That is okay for a month or two, but is too much for the long term, unless you only take it once or twice a week. Zinc and copper balance each other. Taking too much of one will cause a deficiency of the other. There are supplements with zinc and copper together. If you have grey hair, consider taking those.

  11. #113
    Quote Originally Posted by ChuchoLoco  [View Original Post]
    Do you have any experience with DIM for lowering or balancing estrogen levels in men?
    I've never been tested for estrogen, but after reading good things about it, I tried DIM and some other stuff like sulforaphane, maca and pomegranate seed. I didn't notice any improvement, but maybe my estrogen wasn't high at the time. I've tried a lot of herbs and other supplements. Many of them just made me feel sick. Eventually I concluded that nobody has a deficiency of herbs and I began to focus on vitamins and minerals. I believe zinc deficiency is the root cause of high estrogen and low testosterone in older men. Taking herbal or prescription aromatase inhibitors might temporarily suppress the symptoms, but it won't fix the source of the problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDough  [View Original Post]
    "If zinc levels are inadequate, the levels of aromatase (and estrogen) rise. Without zinc, the pituitary gland cannot .... stimulate the testes to produce testosterone".
    My theory is that during pregnancy, nutrients are transferred from mother to baby in optimal amounts and ratios, to the extent that the mother has those nutrients available. The mother may become deficient in certain nutrients as a result. For example, women often suddenly get grey hair after a pregnancy. As the child grows, some nutrients are deficient in the diet and others are consumed in excess. Over time everything gets out of balance. If all vitamins and minerals are returned to optimal amounts and ratios, health should improve. Unfortunately that is a long and difficult process. How do you know what you need and how much? How should you take it? Resolving deficiencies in one nutrient can cause others to become deficient.

    A good example is vitamin K2. Fortunately, you can estimate your requirements with the smooth teeth effect. Most nutrients don't give you that sort of feedback. Once you take K2, it activates certain processes that use up zinc and magnesium. Having spent a lifetime with insufficient vitamin K2, calcium accumulates in the arteries and soft tissues. Clearing this backlog in a shorter time than it took to accumulate will drain your reserves of zinc and magnesium. That's why I recommend to supplement those when taking K2, and also because studies show many people are deficient.

    My guess is that vitamin K2 is the most common vitamin deficiency. One study that I quoted earlier showed 97% of subjects were deficient. I would guess that D3 is next and old people are often deficient in B12. The most common mineral deficiency is probably magnesium, followed by zinc. Supposedly grey hair is caused by copper deficiency. If that is true then old people are deficient. The biggest nutritional excesses are calcium and protein.

  12. #112

    Dim

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDough  [View Original Post]
    https://www.healthline.com/health/estrogen-in-men

    "Testosterone is the most significant hormone to male sexual development and function. But estrogen needs to stay in balance with testosterone to help control sex drive, the ability to have an erection, and the production of sperm. Testosterone naturally decreases as men age, while estrogen increases. Increased estrogen levels can affect the balance of hormones that are needed to help get an erection and stay erect.

    Substances that can raise your estrogen levels include: certain antibiotics, herbs or other natural substances, such as gingko or ginseng, phenothiazines (a medication used for mental health conditions). Some health conditions can raise your estrogen levels, such as: stress, weight gain or obesity, diseases that affect the liver.

    Theoretically aromatase inhibitors which keep an enzyme known as aromatase from turning hormones called androgens into estrogen should work, but research shows that they don't have that great of an effect. Aromatase inhibitors are also available in natural forms, such as wild nettle root, maca, and grapeseed extract. Pomegranates are high in estrogen-blocking phytochemicals. Staying in shape can also keep your estrogen levels low: work out for about 15 to 30 minutes per day, and increase the time as you feel comfortable. Switch it up: do cardio one day, strength the next, and so on".

    https://www.letsgetchecked.com/artic...trogen-in-men/

    "symptoms of high estrogen in men can include: Weight gain, Erectile dysfunction, Low sex drive, Infertility, Enlargement of breast tissue, Depression, Loss of energy, Decrease in muscle mass. As men age, it is possible for the enzyme aromatase to cause estrogen to spike and testosterone to decrease in volume.

    There are some lifestyle changes that may potentially help in lowering estrogen levels, these include: Incorporate magnesium and B vitamins into your diet, Try adding fresh and organic foods to your everyday diet whenever possible, Get the right amount of sleep, Decrease stress levels, Stick to a healthy weight".

    https://thecompounder.com/increased-estrogen-in-men/

    "aromatase converts certain amounts of testosterone into estradiol (an estrogen). With aging, a man's body will produce larger amounts of aromatase. Larger amounts of aromatase mean more conversion of testosterone to estradiol. All fat cells contain aromatase, so an increase in fat cell population will cause an increase in the conversion of testosterone into estrogen. Zinc inhibits the levels of aromatase in the body. If zinc levels are inadequate, the levels of aromatase rise. Without zinc, the pituitary gland cannot release the luteinizing and follicle stimulating hormones that stimulate the testes to produce testosterone".

    https://www.planetnaturopath.com/reduce-high-estrogen/

    "a couple of ways to reduce aromatase enzyme activity like decreasing body fat, reducing insulin resistance, and increasing the intake of phytoestrogens. Another way to reduce the aromatase enzyme is by supplementing with the following nutrients: Zinc, Selenium, Magnesium. Zinc is the number one inhibitor and commonly a nutrient that is deficient in men and women. It is recommended to take 20 - 50 MG of zinc a day, depending on the person. Reducing alcohol consumption can help reduce estrogen levels in men".
    Do you have any experience with DIM for lowering or balancing estrogen levels in men?

  13. #111
    Try using Marijuana. It works wonders for sex.

  14. #110

    Blood work

    What sort of tests does one have to do to measure mineral levels? What sort of tests would you recommend that even a healthy individual should get done every once in a while?

    Also, saw this one post which mentions taking multivitamin supplements to be a wasteful endeavor. It classifies taking multivitamins as one of out 8 habits that are usually considered good but actually could do more harm than good. The article suggests taking a dietary route instead of popping pills.

    https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/blog...-be-so-healthy

  15. #109

    Good info

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDough  [View Original Post]
    Yes there are side effects to such things. I have had unfavorable side effects from herbs. Now I prefer to focus on basic nutrition in the form of vitamins and minerals; things that are essential nutrients. The research I quoted points out that ginko and ginseng increase estrogen. Some guys might be taking those. The other suggestions of sleep, exercise, nutrition and reducing alcohol are reasonable. I believe that low testosterone is often caused by nutritional deficiencies, in particular zinc and vitamin D3. If that is true, then it would make more sense to supplement those rather than doing testosterone replacement therapy. Likewise, it would be better to supplement zinc to inhibit aromatase instead of using aromatase inhibitors, which the quoted study says "don't have that great of an effect" and would likely have side effects, as you mentioned. Many men take those natural inhibitors quoted in the article. I was trying to point out that they wouldn't help much and that zinc would probably work better.

    It is well known that older people are more prone to being deficient in vitamin B12 and D3. Studies show they are also deficient in K2. My theory is that declining testosterone and increasing estrogen might be due to simple nutritional deficiencies. Here is evidence that zinc is also deficient in older people.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/srep21850

    "In adults, highly significant inverse correlations between zinc concentration and age were observed. A considerable proportion of (Japanese) elderlies (20% or more) were found to have marginal to severe zinc deficiency. A study conducted in five European countries reported zinc deficiency in 31% of people over 60 years of age. These findings indicate that elderly individuals are prone to zinc deficiency, even in developed countries".
    You have definitely done some research and have also learned from experience. The body is incredible and so many things are dependent on other things. Vitamins and nutriciķand for sure. I'm at that age, 71 and take D3 and B12 because blood work showed that I was deficient in those 2. Basically in good health. Need more cardio but do weights. I will try adding some magnesium and zinc which I have had because I too read about their benefits but can't remember why or when. Hahaha. You may have answered this before but which MG do you recommend. There are so many types out there with different uptakes. I tried Anastrazole but it made me incredibly tired among other things. Thanks for the info and keep it coming.

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