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  1. #2164
    So I've met a few new candidates, in my own country. Also had a few cancel.

    Of one that cancelled she was strictly business at the start that I had to warn her about SA rules. She saw this as a 6 month experiment for herself. Asked €500, which I agreed to. As we talked to pin a date she softened up. And eventually folded, scared to meet.

    Had one that asked €350. But she wasn't really a looker. Because I wasn't sure I suggested the first meet just talk to see if there would be some chemistry but no fee, though expenses paid by me.
    She got upset and blocked me.

    Another one, looks to be more of a 6. Quoted a price of €200 per meet. Very willing to meet. Have this one on standby.

    Soon meeting up with a 8/9. No price set. I really hope I can get this one, else the 6 just to see if she upgrades to a 7.

    Met and slept with a 7, price at €300 per meet. Great pussy and company. Went straight to BB.

    Another 7, I wasn't sure about her but got her to the room. Man was I disappointed, €350 fee. We agreed for 2-3 hours on the room. I let her go after 1 saying I was tired.

    Things seem different than when I last fished in my own pond. One thing if for certain, the men are more crazy than before. The stories I heard explains why a lot disappear quickly.

  2. #2163
    Quote Originally Posted by Shyzai  [View Original Post]
    I am in LA, and yes, those numbers for LA are just too low. The minimum to get anything here is 400. If you want a 9 and above, then at least 500. Of course, YMMV and you might get lucky and get a good one for less, but I am talking about the norm.
    For $500 I tell the women I would rather look at porno and play with myself. Then they drop the price and their panties.

  3. #2162
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1  [View Original Post]
    I'm in Medellin now, for 1. 5 months already, and SA here sucks. 90%+ of SA girls have no clue how real SB-SD relationships work (or at least, some similar relationships, not 1 night stands). They don't think long term, they don't care about chemistry and affection, but they lie both are important to them. Every time I try to set up a date, I explain what I expect from the date, what I want and need. I explain what GFE means, without going into too much detail. I tell them how chemistry important to me, and that I want both of us to have fun and enjoy our time together. And you know what? They all agree to it, they lie that that is exactly what they are looking for, blah blah blah. When we finally meet, I give them my best BFE (boyfriend experience LOL) and make sure girls are comfortable and relaxed. Only to see them get dressed in less than 3 minutes and stand by the entrance door ready to leave after 1st (and last) round of sex. What a turnoff! And of course, no "thank you" or "would love to see you again" message after the date. Most of my SA dates in MDE happen to be 1 night stands, no matter how hard I try or screen them. Reminds me of Lleras girls, they want you to cum as fast as possible, so that they get back to the park to milk another sucker. The difference is that SA girls are usually lower volume, and provide better GFE service, overall than hardcore pros in El Centro or Parque Lleras.
    My experience with sa in medellin is that it takes a fuck ton of time. There's maybe some gems ti be found but I think the FB route is just easier. Yeah FB girls are all at least Semi pros, but at least it's quick and reliable. If you want a real SB experience Seeking or as you said real life may be the way to go, but FB is just easier overall.

    SA seemed ok in Mexico City, met a couple of great girls, but that was a year ago.

  4. #2161

    Yes. That. Exactly.

    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1  [View Original Post]
    SA / Tinder girls have provided much better service than all others putas. GFE all around. Only once I had a situation when SA girl tried to upcharge me for BBBJ (obviously, never saw her again). I would rather prefer PPM, which is per meet, than get charged by the hour by some Lleras puta and get mechanical all covered shitty service. There is nothing wrong with PPM as long as it serves both parties' needs. My dates with SA girls, with a few recent exceptions, are non-rushed, relaxed and passionate. Yes, I pay extra wine and dine expenses, taxis, etc but overall experience is so much better and well worth it. Sometimes a girl stays overnight, and the price we agreed on becomes so much sweeter, and cost per fuck decreases.
    This is spot on. An SA date (done right) is so much more / better than just going to the room for an hour or two of sex. And yeah, the moment when you realize she's sleeping over because she WANTS to is simply priceless. My only fear is that I started SA just as a way to have sex in the US. But now some 25 girls later ive become totally addicted to the more complete experience. I honestly don't know how I will feel about straight up P4 P when that becomes available to me again. I've grown very accustomed to the companionship and romance part and think I will find pure P4 P lacking. Guess we'll see!

  5. #2160
    Please drop me a private message with a short note about you and your contact details. I will share it with her and you can take it from there.

    G.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shyzai  [View Original Post]
    I am very much interested. I just bought a subscription using Bitcoin, about 9 hours ago and I am waiting for the Admin to activate my privileges. I am more of a contributor on the Los Angeles Sugar Babe USG forum, since I almost never travel and I live vicariously through you gentlemen.

  6. #2159

    Yeah Seems Low

    Quote Originally Posted by RedWaters44  [View Original Post]
    Great write up! Can any current members confirm whether they've had great mileage with those US rates? They seem awfully low but maybe I'm just nave (still learning the SA game).
    My experience is rates are up a bit post pandemic. Going to be lucky to score an 8+ in a major US city for $400. Seems all the girls are asking $500 and sticking to it pretty good. Might get them down to $400. But don't think it's going lower than that. I've been thrilled with my $500 girls. Especially when they are 24 hrs like Kayla. Worth every penny.

  7. #2158

    LA too low

    Quote Originally Posted by RedWaters44  [View Original Post]
    Great write up! Can any current members confirm whether they've had great mileage with those US rates? They seem awfully low but maybe I'm just nave (still learning the SA game).
    I am in LA, and yes, those numbers for LA are just too low. The minimum to get anything here is 400. If you want a 9 and above, then at least 500. Of course, YMMV and you might get lucky and get a good one for less, but I am talking about the norm.

  8. #2157

    US PPM Rate

    Quote Originally Posted by Ailton  [View Original Post]
    I have updated the table with new entries, thank you all for the additions. To all the silent readers: we know you are there. Please consider telling us about your experiences, the setting and how much it set you back.

    EUROPE

    Austria

    Vienna 300 EUR for the Night.

    Czech Republic.
    Great write up! Can any current members confirm whether they've had great mileage with those US rates? They seem awfully low but maybe I'm just nave (still learning the SA game).

  9. #2156

    Interested

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunners1  [View Original Post]
    One of my gym instructors SB is planning a 3 week sojourn in LA. She is super horny and ready for anything. A true squirter. You will need a mattress protector.

    Ok. If anyone is keen to have her details let me know. And I shall share her contacts with you.

    She plans to arrive on 10 Sep.

    G.
    I am very much interested. I just bought a subscription using Bitcoin, about 9 hours ago and I am waiting for the Admin to activate my privileges. I am more of a contributor on the Los Angeles Sugar Babe USG forum, since I almost never travel and I live vicariously through you gentlemen.

  10. #2155

    Because I get better service

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Thing I do not get is if you are having to name a price and they are hos then why use seeking at all.
    SA / Tinder girls have provided much better service than all others putas. GFE all around. Only once I had a situation when SA girl tried to upcharge me for BBBJ (obviously, never saw her again). I would rather prefer PPM, which is per meet, than get charged by the hour by some Lleras puta and get mechanical all covered shitty service. There is nothing wrong with PPM as long as it serves both parties' needs. My dates with SA girls, with a few recent exceptions, are non-rushed, relaxed and passionate. Yes, I pay extra wine and dine expenses, taxis, etc but overall experience is so much better and well worth it. Sometimes a girl stays overnight, and the price we agreed on becomes so much sweeter, and cost per fuck decreases.

  11. #2154
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1  [View Original Post]
    Yes, I do complain, but my complaints are legit, based on my own experience. SA in Mexico City was much much better than in MDE (at least, last summer when I was there). Bogota is better than MDE, and it was pretty good on my trip there half a year ago (maybe because of covid restrictions / strikes? Who knows), but this time Bogota sucked too. SA could be good in Rio, but for some reason it is not popular there, and pickings are slim, even though Rio got plenty of great talent, most beautiful girls I have ever seen, but I assume they are non-pros or just not familiar with SA. Can't tell anything about Russia, never used SA there, but Tinder rocks (at least for me, because I'm Russian and speak the language).

    Dramafree, and all other posters, if you think my complaints are not legit, feel free to explain why. Maybe I'm being overly pessimistic and you have different experiences.
    I agree with MB: I tried SA in Mexico City: Cancún: Tegucigalpa in Honduras: Managua in Nicaragua: Panama: Caracas in Venezuela.

    I can vouch it is much better than picking up hoes in clubs or strippers or massage girls and the price is dirt cheap.

    Quality of women and pussy is outstanding.

    Peace.

    I miss Central America and SA chicas.

  12. #2153
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Well, I had five women in Medellin I fucked bare without a price, and I was last there in March or April and banged two hot blondes without a price but anyway.

    Thing I do not get is if you are having to name a price and they are hos then why use seeking at all. You would have better luck turning hos into sugar babies. I did that a lot with strippers in the USA. As long as I kept it as PPM and did not let them get too serious, I. E. Paying for anything outside of sex, things were great. I had great sex with amazing looking women.

    To me, the point of having a Colombian GF or SB is their ability to travel. If there is an uneducated ho or one who does not have a passport and cannot make it through an airport (a lot harder and more intimidating challenge that it sounds), I would fuck them and that be it. She was not SB material.

    I guess it is different if you are living there. Still, I had a chick from La Isla come over and spend a few hours with me and banged her for 300 k, and she was an 8 or 9 on your scale. I would rather have a hot, excellent performing real ho than get a chick who thinks that by going on seeking she is not a ho. If she is PPM, she is.
    Sorry Elvis, I agree with almost everything you say, including your political views, but I do disagree about talking to girls about what you are willing to pay, especially in Latin America. As you know, I am having great success, honestly even better then then my reports. I am very open and up front in what I am willing to pay. This eliminates so many issues and problems down the road. After this we almost never discuss money again. I have renegotiated with a couple girls. Some of my Top Tier girls I have given extra money and gifts. If you do not discuss money you will waste a lot of valuable time and many girls simply will not agree to meet, sorry this is the truth.

    As far as making a great experience and mentoring this is a great idea if that is what they are looking.

    As Steve said, you probably should never discuss money with American chicks until you meet them face to face. Maybe in text messages after you have talked a few times.

  13. #2152
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1  [View Original Post]
    Elvis, thanks for the advice. But I think we all agree that SA markets are different, and the one in Medellin in particular, is a tough one. It is full of pros, and your strategy of meet and greet, not discussing PPM, etc. Most likely won't work here (never worked for me). I never bring up PPM when I chat up the girl. She does it first. Yes, that means she is a ho. But if I tell them to fuck off, I will have no other options to choose from.
    Well, I had five women in Medellin I fucked bare without a price, and I was last there in March or April and banged two hot blondes without a price but anyway.

    Thing I do not get is if you are having to name a price and they are hos then why use seeking at all. You would have better luck turning hos into sugar babies. I did that a lot with strippers in the USA. As long as I kept it as PPM and did not let them get too serious, I. E. Paying for anything outside of sex, things were great. I had great sex with amazing looking women.

    To me, the point of having a Colombian GF or SB is their ability to travel. If there is an uneducated ho or one who does not have a passport and cannot make it through an airport (a lot harder and more intimidating challenge that it sounds), I would fuck them and that be it. She was not SB material.

    I guess it is different if you are living there. Still, I had a chick from La Isla come over and spend a few hours with me and banged her for 300 k, and she was an 8 or 9 on your scale. I would rather have a hot, excellent performing real ho than get a chick who thinks that by going on seeking she is not a ho. If she is PPM, she is.

  14. #2151

    Sugar sugar in LA

    One of my gym instructors SB is planning a 3 week sojourn in LA. She is super horny and ready for anything. A true squirter. You will need a mattress protector.

    Ok. If anyone is keen to have her details let me know. And I shall share her contacts with you.

    She plans to arrive on 10 Sep.

    G.

  15. #2150

    Don't do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gfefan  [View Original Post]
    What are some of your thoughts on why some SB's insist we do CIP? What is in it for them?

    While both my SB and I are clean, my concern is around unwanted pregnancy. She claims she has IUD (intra uterine device). I'm not sure if it is trustworthy enough to do CIP without a care in the world.
    You sound like that person who is being talked into buying that sports car he cannot afford which the salesperson will happily find someone to finance at 30%. Trusting someone who you barely know who has an interest to deceive you is a very bad idea. I always remind myself that no matter how smart I think I am I only know half the story. I can only imagine the rest and it is bound to be biased and wrong.

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