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03-02-21 19:37 #1547
Posts: 3160Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]
Every second after she got that money, she was angling for more. Halfway into the month, there was just a straw that broke the camel's back, and I was like "Fuck it, I am out. " She called me back a few years later, I saw her and fucked her at her place which was very nice. She claimed to have a job and then I realized she did not. She hooked up with a guy, sucked him dry, and he put up with her longer than I did. I think they lived together, and she bought him tons of things, and then when she turned him down, he lost it and hit her, and she got him kicked out of their place. Seeing what she did with him sealed it for me, and I never saw her again. The notion that she is a victim in today's society just makes me sick. She is and was a blood sucker.
So when I told women that is why I never paid monthly, they never pushed it. People have said that paying by the month makes women feel more like working girls, and my response to that is I do not care. I am not going to be suckered like that again. Paying in advance is almost always a bad idea.
As for her offering you a lower bargain rate, that goes against the natural order as well. For women, there is less fear factor with the known and so I saw they would take less as I got to know them better. Also, usually with men, the pleasure goes down after the first and second meeting with a woman so the value is less as well. I would usually start higher and then go lower especially if the women were not performing as well.
As for a bartender, I am assuming she works here and is from Colombia. Maybe there is a female bartender that is not a flake or drunk, but I cannot recall meeting and getting to know one that is not.
My last SB found herself in that field. She is stunning but more than that she is a health nut and gives off this healthy woman, therapist vibe. So we go out to eat at some sub shop like Subway, and she is asked by staff how she is doing and she says, "Fine, how are you?" Time and again, people would go over all their problems with her for like 15 minutes even if it meant holding up the line. It was bizarre.
The real irony and one of the reasons she liked me so much is that I knew she was bipolar and I really got what that entailed. So often after one of these therapy sessions, we would head back to my place, and she would say, "Elvis, I want to kill myself. I am thinking about slashing my wrists", and I would have to soothe her and talk her out of it.
I am not sure that is what a typical female bartender is. Great listening, problem solving, sweet, chaste woman at the bar and wrist slashing sugar baby in private, but I do not think that is really so much of an exception for bartenders.
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03-02-21 18:19 #1546
Posts: 2672Yeah Yup Yes
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
I'm kinda fixated on one girl now who is super hot Colombiana bar tender and super sweet as well. For allowance she just said "we can start with something small and increase as our relationship grows. Whatever you are comfortable with I wouldn't want to impose".
Is that cool? Or is there a hammer about to fall on me? Most girls just state their price. Two have given me that sort of line. Any advice. Push on it or just deal in person after sex?
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03-02-21 03:27 #1545
Posts: 3160Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]
That breaks my heart. You have to come meet me and Dramafree in Monterrey and I will introduce you to women who will blow your socks off for 20% of that amount. I have two very nice women I can hand off to you, and Steve, they are beautiful and they are not your typical American screwups. Monterrey is an hour and a half flight from Dallas or Houston, so I think you can hit it in almost four hours from anywhere in the USA.
I have guys I am going to meet going to Colombia in a few weeks and others wanting to go to Brazil in the summer. I hope you consider saving up and going with us.
I have a trip planned with Flo and Nancy for four days, and it is going to cost a little above that $700 to $1000 mark, and it is with two women for four days. $1000 for a meet? Fuck that place, dude.
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03-01-21 18:18 #1544
Posts: 2672Musings and Advice
So I am hopefully traveling soon and have embarked on a search. A few thoughts and or advice as I start here on a new city.
Hun and Love. I've noticed a few girls I am in contact with calling me hun or hunny or love. In the past I've associated those terms with hookers. Just based on prior experience. And maybe it doesn't even matter. But what's your experience there. Are these code words for I am a pro? Or am I reading too much into it.
Directness. Recently when I was engaging with girls and getting offers of $700 and $1000 - not kidding — I was pretty bummed. I just started casting a wider net with a pre canned message of "I'm coming to xxx on yyy and going to have dinner and drinks and more, depending on chemistry with some awesome girl. Maybe that's you? Let's chat" And got a lot of responses from very good prospects. It cut thru a bunch of the BS back and forth. I was surprised at how easy that was for an opener.
Directness 2. I had recently analyzed what my favorite SBs all have in common. So once I started texting a girl I just said it outright. That the girls I really like are all Xxx yyy zzz and love to kiss. That last one rather sexualizes the interaction and frankly it's true — if she doesn't love to kiss then she's not for me. And again surprised at how this directness works. Like pretty much everyone I had engaged to that level was like "yep that's me".
So I am continually learning!
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02-22-21 14:27 #1543
Posts: 3160Originally Posted by HelloIm [View Original Post]
In Monterrey, Mexico, I used SA and got six women, five were BBFS. In Colombia, there was one hooker that allowed semi bare back. She would dip it in and then out, but I could not tip enough to get hookers to do BBFS. With SA in Colombia, I eventually went bare with all the women.
The Colombian government scares the women not going bare. By the way, the plan be birth control, one pill after sex is better protection against pregnancy than condoms, is over the counter and cheap in Colombia. It is a good place to load up. That drug is levonorgestrel and you give the woman 1500 MG one time after sex. It officially lasts 3 days but unofficially lasts 5 days.
Originally Posted by HelloIm [View Original Post]
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02-22-21 08:55 #1542
Posts: 218Originally Posted by GuyBrusg1957 [View Original Post]
Seekingarrangement.
Seekingarrangements.
With dot com ending, all takes me to seeking dot com, which is the site discussed as SA.
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02-22-21 04:09 #1541
Posts: 2672Yes and Alcohol!
Originally Posted by Midwestern [View Original Post]
And alcohol is KEY with newbies. I guarantee several of the deals I closed were socially lubricated. No regrets either way we both knew what we were doing but it all flows so much easier just like in real life. Actually my most recent date we had good text but mostly she's beautiful so we met up. In person she was really shy and awkward looking away, not knowing how to act. But after a good solid drink (followed by more) she lost her guard and we really had a blast. By the end she was feeding me from her plate off her fork and ended up putting her foot up on my knee to massage her calf. Clearly if we had more time this woulda been a done deal (long story) but we parted with a kiss (which she later apologized for being awkward and lame) and will hopefully seal the deal later this week.
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02-22-21 03:53 #1540
Posts: 366Originally Posted by BlueSwede [View Original Post]
Should I be going to.
Seeking.com
Seeking Arrangements takes me to sugardaddymeet.com.
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02-22-21 03:25 #1539
Posts: 2672Kinda Backwards?
Originally Posted by HelloIm [View Original Post]
But in South American you can already get hotties for extended time very reasonably. So you don't need SA in SA! LOL. Of course it works. It's just not nearly as needed as in the USA.
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02-22-21 03:20 #1538
Posts: 1202Steve's newbie guide
Steve is hands down one of the best guides to using SA on this sub-forum, if not the best, especially for the USA market. But my only small caveat or lemma to Steve's recent guide for newbies is that I try to move from text to meet-and-greet as soon as possible. Any chemistry that I accomplish, or fail to accomplish, on text has not been very predictive of the eventual outcome. On many occasions, I achieved great chemistry and convo while texting, but when we met, the chemistry wasn't there. On many occasions, the convo was a dud on text, but when we met the chemistry was amazing (the latter happens a lot if we meet for a drink and then get drunk, hahaha). So, when I can get a girl's attention, I just immediately say, "let's meet to see if there's any chemistry. " A lot of times, they may feel it can be a big waste of time, because texting is so easy, but if they raise this issue then I always offer to meet them wherever and whenever they want. Just my 2 cents.
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02-22-21 03:10 #1537
Posts: 1202Originally Posted by HelloIm [View Original Post]
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02-22-21 02:47 #1536
Posts: 111Thank you for all your replies, especially Steve and Elvis for providing an in-depth look into my question.
Another question is, do you guys find more opportunities for BBFS from SA?
And if you do, do you find that more often if the BBFS does happen, does it tend to happen on the first date?
A bit about me, since I am new to the Seeking Arrangement subforum, I am more used to straight forward transactions with hookers. But since I am visiting countries like South America soon, I can afford (in my opinion) to hop on SA, and maybe get some pussy that way. And once again (imo), the pussy will probably be a bit higher quality.
Thank you all.
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02-21-21 20:41 #1535
Posts: 3160Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]
Yes, we are paying for it, but maybe that criticism will grow teeth when I see a beauty queen with an average looking unemployed guy with no money.
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02-21-21 20:29 #1534
Posts: 3160Originally Posted by HelloIm [View Original Post]
You need to get out of the price mentality. A gift is just that. If the woman is truly a sugar baby, I focus my gift on their needs. Being a sugar daddy, a real one, means you are investing in the woman. With a working girl, I do not care if she spends all her money on drugs. Not my problem. With a SB, I care and give like I have a daughter. I am going to be far more liberal with money for education and health than for the latest fashions. What you will find is women will respond to this by not wanting you to give them anything, to show they are not hookers.
You often do have to wade through a sea of hookers to get a real sugar baby, but that is the fun of the hunt.
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02-21-21 16:26 #1533
Posts: 35Over the past 1.5 years, my experiences with SE have been mostly positive. It's been far more useful than any of the other 6 or so sites I've used. I've had to weed through a lot of time wasters who will likely never meet anyone and more than a few scammers, but that's not unusual and in fact much worse on other sites I've been on.
I had a very bad experience with a scammer over a year ago. I reported her, giving great detail about her actions but I never received any reply and I know she remained very active for the following year, probably scamming many other guys. It would have been nice to at least received some reply indicating why no action would be taken. Seeking claimed to take such matters seriously, yet as I said, I didn't even receive a response to my report.