Seeking Arrangements

[DiverOyster]

I joined SA about two mos ago. FYI, I am in the San Francisco area.

At first I received a lot of favorites and messages. Most were from my area. Some were from Venezuela, Phillipines, Europe and Africa.

So far I have met 9 women. The first mtgs were M&G over drinks where I offered $200 to show I was serious. Recap:

1. Eastern Euro. She appeared about 10 years older than pics. Was 30 min late to a bar that was 5 min from her place. Not seeing her again.

2. Early 20's Filipina. She changed the time by 3 hours while I was halfway to meeting. Made you turn and then I blocked.

3. Mainland Chinese. Late 20's. Hot bod. Boring. Wants $500 per mtg. I'm not interested. Bye!

4. 30 yr old Latina. Very good looking. Have hung out two more times. Platonic and I'm OK with that. A little too fussy and bossy. Probably done with her.

5. Viet. 23. Cute. Hung out twice. Too far to drive. I'm done.

6. Early 30's Colombian. Holy fuck. Hot! Wants $500 for two hours. I'm done.

7. 27 yr old Taiwanese. Cute. Drinks too much. A little psycho. I'm done.

8. 22 yr old in Guadalajara. Cute. Fatter in person. Nice girl. I'm done.

9. 23 yr old Filipina. Very cute. Enjoyed convo. Wants $500 per mtg. No time limit. Will see again because I am horny.

So you would give a $200 allowance for the first M & G, without any actions? Wow, this is the USA. I am so used to the FKK scene in Europe. For $200, I could bang a hot chic at FKK Globe in Zurich a la public sex style.

With all the current EU travel bans against Americans, I now have no choice but to learn how to play in the USA.

[PilotPaul]

Hello brothers,

My apologies, it's one Month and not one week.

No problem, I was just thinking I was missing out.

I have previously had a one week subscription from SA. Their signup process had made me a "sugarbabe" instead of a sugardaddy, My subscription price was USD20 for a month which I paid before realizing the problem. SA customer service switched my profile and rather than refund the $$ they gave me a 7 day subscription as a SD.

The way out of your subscription is to go into your Account settings / Subscription and just removed the autorenewal. I always suggest deleting or card details also.

PP.

[Gussy]

Which country are you that has a one week option? Here in Aust is a one month minimum.

Hello brothers,

My apologies, it's one Month and not one week.

I did that faux pas.

Anyways.

What's the way out.

[PilotPaul]

Hello bothers,

Can someone please guide me about how can the one week subscription taken on SA be stopped from auto renewal of one doesn't want to continue. Thanks.

Which country are you that has a one week option? Here in Aust is a one month minimum.

[Nounce]

Hello bothers,

Can someone please guide me about how can the one week subscription taken on SA be stopped from auto renewal of one doesn't want to continue. Thanks.

Go to Setting, Payment to cancel but I don't know about weekly subscription.

[Steve 9696]

I couldn't agree more. It's the experience 100%. For me, it's being in a new city (or new parts of a known city), having drinks, chilling in rooftop lounges, flirting, smoking shisha (hookah), and dining, all while thinking that I'll probably be balls deep in this girl by the end of the night. That is the "drug" that keeps me coming back.

I haven't been to Brazil before, but I've heard good things. And the picture that you painted of Brazil in your report sounds amazing. THis may be on my list when the world opens up as well. It looks like they want to start clinical trials for a COVID vaccine, so maybe early 2021 for international travel. Who knows?

02.

I have quite a few Scandallo stories but this is the most recent, has some good color around the experience and is in fact the single best experience of my life considering the lead-up, a 9.5 in face and body, and a 9.5 in bed. It truly does not get better than Scandallo and Andressa. Those who like SA for the experience will enjoy Scandallo for the same reasons. And Brasileiras are unique worldwide in their GFE. It's never fake. They want to be there and totally commit for their time with you.

This was last summer.

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So it's the very last night of my trip and where else would I choose to go but Scandallo? I was drag ass tired and considered not going. What a mistake that would have been. So, professional that I am, I powered thru.

I roll up around 11 PM and it's quite packed like one would expect. First I spend a bit of time on the patio. It's more relaxed out there, before the crush of the club. A few pretty girls that are maybes but no one lights me up.

I decide to wade into the thick of it, which is the main area with the band and grab my second drink. And it's packed. Pretty much have to turn sideways to wend your way thru the crowd. I can't really estimate but surely over 100 girls just in that part, maybe 150? It is a buffet that is unequalled worldwide in my opinion.

I have a certain type and it's a very narrow window. So out of the 150 I will probably find 5 or less that are up my alley even tho they are all pretty in their own way. At some point Julliana from last week appears. She is a sweet girl and pretty and I would repeat under other circumstances. But not with such a target rich environment. So I give her a kiss and move on (later I find out she was pissed. But hey.).

I find one of the very best places to do the girl-buffet is up near the stage to the right. You can stand on the little step there and for some reason a lot of the ladies have a loop that goes right by there. But bear in mind others never leave the back of the room so you need to work both.

While the ladies are on parade there are one or two who catch my eye and I file them for future reference. One particular beauty is wearing a floral print top and matching wrap-around skirt. She has lovely dark eyes and long black hair. Tawny skin. Just my type. We make brief but meaningful eye contact.

This reminds me, it is very interesting how the game is played:

1 Eye contact and quick eye aversion. One of the parties is not interested. Move on.

2 Brief eye contact - 2-3 seconds. Dig you let's talk later.

3 Strong sustained eye contact. Let's talk right now baby.

The irony with number 2 is if you are careful not to let it go to defcon 3 then you only get a brief look at your girl. My tropical girl gets eye contact level 2 - I need further confirmation and file her for later.

Later when I am surveying from the back of the room, I notice that tropical-girl is next to me. I do another quick meeting of the eyes and then drop after a couple seconds. As I turn away, it hits me she is the one. So I reengage and turn towards her and engage her in my broken Portugus. (In retrospect I realize that she is not next to me by accident. She had marked me also after the first gaze and sought me out. Well good for her because she got it right!)

Wow fuck this girl is a real doll. We chat briefly but it's very loud in the club. So we adjourn to the couches in the hall. I'd never really noticed that there are nice couches lining the hall between the restaurant and the club. What a great place to get to know each other. And we do. She's got an architectural degree and hopes to practice soon. She says she loves Scandallo because it's so classy and I agree.

God she is beautiful and I need to move this to the next level but don't want to do a room and be done. So I ask if she wants a drink and does she like dancing. Sim and sim! (All discussion is Portugus. She knows no English.).

So we head back to the main part of the club. She is very girlfriendy, leading me by the hand. We get her a drink and find a section in the middle where there are some tables that create sufficient dancing space. So we put our drinks here and start some dancing. Well not really. More like hips to hips swaying regardless of the beat. And some grinding and gyrating.

The dancing is very sexy and intimate. One of the things that melts my soul is when a girl looks deep into my eyes. Not enough of this so far this trip including my spectacular BA girlfriend. So when Andressa concentrates those liquid browns on mine it is delicious. We lean in and kiss a little. Light stuff at first. A little tongue mixed in as things progress. I honestly enjoy this as much as the room. I did it with Josy for an hour or so last week and loved it. With Andressa it is not the full on tongue tangled mackin like Josy, but very pleasant. And the balance will tip toward Andressa In the room, where she is a goddess.

After 20 minutes or it could be a half hour of dance-flirting I think we were both ready for the room. We do it via Google translate. She initiates with "What do you like to do during sex". Nice. I like the directness. "I like blowjob without condom. And kissing in missionary". Hoping just for an OK, I instead get a surprising "I love BJ without condom. " Which clearly is no lie we discover later.

The room is down the elevator and back up the stairs. R200 at the counter. Again led by the hand, we find our room.

Standing by the bed she faces me and does the full on liquid brown eyes and we kiss a bit. She then turns around and I untie her top. This BFGF part is very sexy and I love when girls do it. It's the first exposure to her tits and they are spectacular BeeCups. Super fine. We get her skirt off as well and then she undoes my buttons and belt. I love being undressed and she is very sexy doing it.

After showers she puts me on my back, straddles me, and sexily crawls up me till we are face to face and plants a strong kiss on me. Love kissing her. She lies fully on top of me, naked junk to lady parts. Gets me rather hard just moving our hips.

Then like a sexy cat she crawls back down and takes me in her mouth, never breaking eye contact. And she is VERY good downstairs. Top one or two of the trip. Lots of licking while giving the doe eyes. Plenty of BLS. A nice buffet of blowjob. Fortunately her being the tenth (ish) fuck of the trip I have plenty of stamina and don't threaten a stack-blowing despite her skills.

Now it's her turn as I turn her on her back. I start by just kissing her deeply but then work down to those spectacular tits. She doesn't get the mega hard nipples like Jana the prior night but she seems to respond in a basic way. Now it's time to move on down.

I take my time going there hoping to get her worked up. When I reach the goal I start some really good tongue work. Her clit is a bit covered so I push up the surrounding flesh to get better access (learned this recently). But despite this, the response is pretty demure. At five or so minutes in, I think she is bored and maybe I should stop. But I do something right and get a little breath intake and head grab. So I keep at it. Sure enough she is just a super slow build.

I spend quite some time working on her as she slow-builds. The magic ticket tho is when I work my index finger inside and curl it back to her Gspot. Using both tongue and fingers is getting her super hot and bothered. I start to feel a small wave and then a huge bucking wave of pussy clamps. Don't know that I've felt that strong a reaction inside a pussy ever before. Made me feel great that I could get her off like that.

Afterwards she just lies fully spent just staring up at me with something like admiration or gratitude. This was no act. She is like a limp wet fish so completely satisfied. But she wants to reciprocate so does a bit more BJ then she grabs the condom and starts riding cowgirl. What a sight! Perfect tits pressed together. Sometimes she'll throw her head back and put her arms back and lean back, just letting go. Fuck she is a stunner -- like a 9. 5.

She switches to RCG which I don't usually prefer but she does a great job. After a while I move her to her back and plunge into Mish. This is really really good. Lots of Mish kissing but she seems to like it best when she buried her face in my neck and wraps her legs strong around me. This is so fine I think I may cum in Mish which I love. But it fades.

In the end, we roll over and lose the condom and she works me by mouth. She has to use every trick in the book and is down at least another ten minutes maybe more. Spectacular climax with ten minutes left on the room.

So we shower, I get her number (ALWAYS do this with Brasileiras) and later get some model-level pics the next day via WhatsApp. Wow what a girl!

P.S. If anyone wants other Brazil Boate stories Scandallo, Bomboa, Casarao etc. Just hit me up with a message.

[Akibono]

Yeah sorry forgot to mention for others that Aphrodisia is heart stoppingly expensive. USD $280/ HALF hour. (If you have coin it is worth the experience. But it can't compare in value to Globe just across town at $140/ half guaranteed GFE service. Or Germany at $65/ half hour at the FKKs. Of course the FKKs have $80-100 entry fee s doing one girl isn't very practical or cost effective.

Almost always the differences in Dollars other than legality is the EXPERIENCE not the girl. In Brazil you can have a spectacular half hour with a 7-8 for $30 (no lie) but if you want an experience go to Scandallo for a few hours and have a girl for one of those hours. Will set you back $300 or 10 X. It's the experience not the girl.

And yeah, Lshroomer I am like you. I have this mental block at $500/ HR just can't do it. Will keep looking till I find $400 or less even if it takes months! It's a hard stop for me. LOL.

You are correct about the experience, but it is also about exclusivity. Who can gain access. The better girls don't want to deal with the tight spender, and the big spender do not want to wait. They want their €£¥ to get them to the front of the line.

[Gussy]

Hello bothers,

Can someone please guide me about how can the one week subscription taken on SA be stopped from auto renewal of one doesn't want to continue. Thanks.

[LshRoomer]

Yeah sorry forgot to mention for others that Aphrodisia is heart stoppingly expensive. USD $280/ HALF hour. (If you have coin it is worth the experience. But it can't compare in value to Globe just across town at $140/ half guaranteed GFE service. Or Germany at $65/ half hour at the FKKs. Of course the FKKs have $80-100 entry fee s doing one girl isn't very practical or cost effective.

Almost always the differences in Dollars other than legality is the EXPERIENCE not the girl. In Brazil you can have a spectacular half hour with a 7-8 for $30 (no lie) but if you want an experience go to Scandallo for a few hours and have a girl for one of those hours. Will set you back $300 or 10 X. It's the experience not the girl.

And yeah, Lshroomer I am like you. I have this mental block at $500/ HR just can't do it. Will keep looking till I find $400 or less even if it takes months! It's a hard stop for me. LOL.

I couldn't agree more. It's the experience 100%. For me, it's being in a new city (or new parts of a known city), having drinks, chilling in rooftop lounges, flirting, smoking shisha (hookah), and dining, all while thinking that I'll probably be balls deep in this girl by the end of the night. That is the "drug" that keeps me coming back.

I haven't been to Brazil before, but I've heard good things. And the picture that you painted of Brazil in your report sounds amazing. THis may be on my list when the world opens up as well. It looks like they want to start clinical trials for a COVID vaccine, so maybe early 2021 for international travel. Who knows?

02.

[Steve 9696]

Yeah sorry forgot to mention for others that Aphrodisia is heart stoppingly expensive. USD $280/ HALF hour. (If you have coin it is worth the experience. But it can't compare in value to Globe just across town at $140/ half — guaranteed GFE service. Or Germany at $65/ half hour at the FKKs. Of course the FKKs have $80-100 entry fee só doing one girl isn't very practical or cost effective.

Almost always the differences in Dollars other than legality is the EXPERIENCE not the girl. In Brazil you can have a spectacular half hour with a 7-8 for $30 (no lie) but if you want an experience go to Scandallo for a few hours and have a girl for one of those hours. Will set you back $300 or 10 X. It's the experience not the girl.

And yeah, Lshroomer I am like you. I have this mental block at $500/ HR just can't do it. Will keep looking till I find $400 or less even if it takes months! It's a hard stop for me. LOL.

[LshRoomer]

Covid is changing the rules for all of us. The reality is that none of us will be travelling freely PLUS every country will have a distrust of overseas visitors. The EU has already banned USA.

The common aspect of your adventures is that you are more attractive when you are from out of town.

One concept I am considering here in my town is creating my SA profile as an 'out of town' visitor that is visiting my home town. So my SA profile will be based in another city with the story that I will be in this town for regular periods. I just feel it may appeal to different ladies and the ones that say they want 'serious ongoing' may be more willing to take on a ONS knowing that I won't be here for long.

Just my strategy.

PP.

I appreciate the advice guys!

It sounds like 300 PPM is the going rate (approximately). That sounds about right. I would usually do 300 euro per meet so, this comes out cheaper after the exchange. Even though I don't speak very highly of Denver, it was actually a pretty decent meet and only cost me 200. I have my personal principles when it comes to paying 500. It's just not going to happen. I took that road early in my SA days. I wasn't thinking clearly at the time, but I'm glad I didn't pay her. She pretty much set the mood in my hotel room and them told me that I need to prove that I'm serious with 500 euro at that very moment. Again, that was my earlier, less experienced days.

Latinas. Love them. So I might have to try Mexico or South America. Your girl in the pics fit my type exactly!

As for the states you mentioned, you may be onto something. I'd be willing to try out Dallas or Baton Rouge. I just searched dallas in Seeking and the vibe of these girls already seems welcoming. I'm seeing more "let's hang out", and "whiskey drinker and intelligent", instead of "model looking for the perfect SD" or "Can you give the best" (Miami). LOL. A very different vibe that hopefully is reflected in the local prices.

FKK. Sounds amazing. Need to check it off the list definitely. I hadn't thought of being there for an extended amount of time to chill out. You mentioned 5 girls in a day, massages, chill, buffet. This sounds like a fucking amazing spa or something. Def going to give it a shot.

I've been to Aphrodisia. It's was an interesting experience. No cover, free drinks, etc. When I was there, it was only me (alone) and 2 other guys. There were probably about 10-12 girls hanging around. Definitely a new experience at the time. I wanted one girl, but there was a language gap. LOL. Most of the girls there were Romanian. I know a decent amount of romanian, so that made the experience a bit better. I don't' think I would go again (room rates felt high) but I would also recommend this place to anyone in town.

I have only had 2 meets in the states and both have been in Denver. I don't think international travel is in the cards anytime soon, so domestic SBs are now on the menu.

Out of town discussion. I'm always the OOT guy. It works for and against you. I usually try to bridge the gap by mentioning that I'm moving into the city, or that I'll be there very often (like once / twice a week) in order to cast the widest net and include the SB that don't like traveling guys. In your case, it's not a bad idea to play the travel game. Make sure your SB knows that you are always leaving, just came back, or about to leave (but keep in contact when you are "out of town". This is a major key in keeping her warm for your future visits) If you do this, she will fit more to your schedule because she understands "how busy you are" and there is a rapport because of your continued contact when you are so busy. She will magically understand (I'm serious. It's like they innately feel the need to relax you bc travel has been so rough for you) to keep you happy when you finally have a moment to rest from travel, and put your balls in her mouth, and why?. Because you're a great guy! LOL.

[Midwestern]

I'm considering the West Coast (Seattle / Vancouver / Portland) for some exploration. I have some clients over there and I love the weather and the vibe. Anybody got experience in this region? Any patterns / scams noticed, etc?



Let me know what you guys think.

I tried SA in both Portland and Seattle. It was great in Portland, but I didn't have much luck in Seattle. In my experience, the bigger the city, the more chaotic is SA. So, I guess that's why Portland worked out better for me. In Portland, there are lots and lots of SBs, but not many rich guys. So, it's a buyers market. One time, when I suddenly found myself on a short one day business trip to Portland, I scanned SA during my lunch break and contacted a half dozen girls to see if any would be available that very night, and I actually got two girls that were ready and willing. I picked the cute skinny blonde. We had a great date, just shooting whisky and talking and laughing, and she stayed overnight and that was awesome, and then she even drove me to the airport the next day, haha. Sorry, I digress. Anyway, so yeah, SA in Portland is very good. I'm not basing this just on that one experience. I was in Portland somewhat regularly, and it was always pretty good. My typically price point was $300 PPM. Even that skinny blonde girl told me that she has so much competition with other SBs in Portland.

One caveat, my information is based on experience from a few years ago. The SA market in both of places may have changed.

And if you ever have to go to Seattle, you can hit the AMPS for FS. I use rubmaps to get intel on AMPS. But in general, even the AMPS in Seattle are not that good.

Finally, you also mentioned Vancouver. I don't have experience in Vancouver, but I do have experience in Niagara Falls, Canada. Wow, SA is fantastic in Niagara Falls. BUT you have to be willing to up the age a bit. Yes, there are 20-something SBs in Niagara Falls, but if you're willing to meet up with 30-somethings too, then you've hit the jackpot. So many SBs! I guess Niagara Falls is a place where almost everyone works in the tourism business, and they are all making low salaries, so a lot of them are on SA. My price point there was also $300 PPM, and this is in Canadian dollars. But again, you have to be willing to meet up with 30-somethings in Niagara Falls. There aren't many young gals there.

[PilotPaul]

I tried SA in Denver and I found a lot of interest, but the SBs want too much for too little. They had that privileged vibe that I haven't seen much of in my normal stomping grounds (europe).

Let me know what you guys think.

Covid is changing the rules for all of us. The reality is that none of us will be travelling freely PLUS every country will have a distrust of overseas visitors. The EU has already banned USA.

The common aspect of your adventures is that you are more attractive when you are from out of town.

One concept I am considering here in my town is creating my SA profile as an 'out of town' visitor that is visiting my home town. So my SA profile will be based in another city with the story that I will be in this town for regular periods. I just feel it may appeal to different ladies and the ones that say they want 'serious ongoing' may be more willing to take on a ONS knowing that I won't be here for long.

Just my strategy.

PP.

[Steve 9696]

I know this is not the FKK forum but to respond to your first comment above. I am totally a girlfriend type of guy. Love the dinner. Love the dancing. Love the flirting. It's the best. But FKK is unique and sooooo worth your time. It too is a complete experience in a different way. Just a complete lusty tour de force. Find a hottie and have an hour of pleasure. Eat at the buffet. Have another hottie. Drink some beers. Have a sauna. Have another hottie. Get a massage. Nap a little. Have another. My max is five but I am a lightweight compared to some guys. It's truly heavenly but in a different way from the "one girl complete evening" thing. Both are awesome. If you are over 45 bring the Viagra. You will be glad you did. FKK is a MUST do for every man.

On SA in the states be prepared for expense compared to elsewhere because prostitution is illegal and the legality or not sets the price throughout the world. In big cities you should expect $300 is a good deal. $400 common. And $500 the norm in NYC and SF for example. Don't be too discouraged by your Denver experience. You have to be very persistent. When I started looking in my home town I was having very average girls quoting $800. WTF? I was mystified and depressed. In the end found four girls who would all regularly see me at $300 PPM. It's a number game. Keep plugging away.

German FKK is not open yet AFAIK. But Swiss is, including the legendary Globe. So is Aphrodisia not technically an FKK but a unique experience of its own. A small bar with 30+ hot girls and maybe 5-6 guys tops. Completely free - no cover and free drinks — including alcoholic drinks. WTF? They are betting that as you sip your free Scotch you will not be able to resist a hottie. So far they are right!

[Steve 9696]

Covid is driving me crazy!

I haven't traveled domestically or internationally (preferrred) in months. My edibles are running low, and I haven't had a new face in my lap in a while. This is getting old, really fast! Not here to complain because we are all experiencing the same thing. Instead, I am considering the positive. Where to venture next? I have a german girl that has kept in touch over the last few months pretty intensely (didn't meet on SA), so Germany will definitely be one of my stops. I'm not an FKK guy, but I have been told to check it out. Not a fan of in the club sex, or a quick bust and go, hence the reason I, like you, chose the SB route. I do want to experience it though, and check it off the list.

The reason I'm writing. 2 separate questions below:

Where do you guys like to go for SB hunting? I personally like Berlin, Poland, and London. Lots of options and just my type (pretty faces. European vibe. Skinny - cool. Some don't want $$ Prague has a lot of options, but I've had to work harder in czechia than in some other places. I've personally had just as much fun with the escorts there and the price is about the same (if you know where to look).

I'm considering the West Coast (Seattle / Vancouver / Portland) for some exploration. I have some clients over there and I love the weather and the vibe. Anybody got experience in this region? Any patterns / scams noticed, etc?

I tried SA in Denver and I found a lot of interest, but the SBs want too much for too little. They had that privileged vibe that I haven't seen much of in my normal stomping grounds (europe).

Let me know what you guys think.

I know this is not the FKK forum but to respond to your first comment above. I am totally a girlfriend type of guy. Love the dinner. Love the dancing. Love the flirting. It's the best. But FKK is unique and sooooo worth your time. It too is a complete experience in a different way. Just a complete lusty tour de force. Find a hottie and have an hour of pleasure. Eat at the buffet. Have another hottie. Drink some beers. Have a sauna. Have another hottie. Get a massage. Nap a little. Have another. My max is five but I am a lightweight compared to some guys. It's truly heavenly but in a different way from the "one girl complete evening" thing. Both are awesome. If you are over 45 bring the Viagra. You will be glad you did. FKK is a MUST do for every man.

On SA in the states — be prepared for expense compared to elsewhere because prostitution is illegal and the legality or not sets the price throughout the world. In big cities you should expect $300 is a good deal. $400 common. And $500 the norm in NYC and SF for example. Don't be too discouraged by your Denver experience. You have to be very persistent. When I started looking in my home town I was having very average girls quoting $800. WTF? I was mystified and depressed. In the end found four girls who would all regularly see me at $300 PPM. It's a number game. Keep plugging away.