Seeking Arrangements

[Steve 9696]

Hi,

I just started my membership in SA and currently in Medellin. I feel most of the conversations are going no where when I say lets meet for a coffee and then decide as I am not sure if I would like her in person. So I would highly appreciate any tips on getting started as I am kind of getting tired of the PL and other places.

Thanks again.

Sorry I can't help w Medellin — maybe Elvis or DramaFree can. What I do know is that Seeking is not usually worth your time in a P4 P playground like Med. Facebook seems the route there. I am sure you can read more in that forum which is one of the most active on ISG.

[AmorPorFavor]

Not sure who your bragging jab was aimed at but suppose it could have been me. I have had very great luck at SA and do like to post it here for two reasons:

1. I enjoy memorializing it and sharing it with other like minded folks. I truly enjoy reading the exploits of others and have been told many times people enjoy my FRs. I try to post the good and the bad. Mostly it's been good or great. Long time readers know I've had my heart broken and been taken to the cleaners for about $3000 in wasted spending. But I've shared and lived and learned.

2. I hope that people lurk here and will come to see what a paradise SA can be when done right. Especially in pussy prison USA. If you told me three years ago I'd be extolling the virtues of P4 P in the US I'd have said you were crazy. Now I am the number one fan.

That said if you are looking for tips for newbies happy to answer any questions you might have. I posted a full guide but it's back a lot of pages now but can repost or answer specifics.

I do have to disagree with The Manager when he asserts that an SB is 2-3 X more expensive than an escort. Maybe he had this backwards. Because there is no escort in the US in the 7+!looks category that is going to have dinner, fuck you and sleep over for $4-500 and that is par for the course on SA.

Sorting through all the scammers, hookers and crazy babies is a pain in the ass. A reposting of your guide would be appreciated, thanks.

[Akibono]

Not sure who your bragging jab was aimed at but suppose it could have been me. I have had very great luck at SA and do like to post it here for two reasons:

1. I enjoy memorializing it and sharing it with other like minded folks. I truly enjoy reading the exploits of others and have been told many times people enjoy my FRs. I try to post the good and the bad. Mostly it's been good or great. Long time readers know I've had my heart broken and been taken to the cleaners for about $3000 in wasted spending. But I've shared and lived and learned.

2. I hope that people lurk here and will come to see what a paradise SA can be when done right. Especially in pussy prison USA. If you told me three years ago I'd be extolling the virtues of P4 P in the US I'd have said you were crazy. Now I am the number one fan.

That said if you are looking for tips for newbies happy to answer any questions you might have. I posted a full guide but it's back a lot of pages now but can repost or answer specifics.

I do have to disagree with The Manager when he asserts that an SB is 2-3 X more expensive than an escort. Maybe he had this backwards. Because there is no escort in the US in the 7+!looks category that is going to have dinner, fuck you and sleep over for $4-500 and that is par for the course on SA.

I have a message for you.

[Atxbadgers]

That said if you are looking for tips for newbies happy to answer any questions you might have. I posted a full guide but it's back a lot of pages now but can repost or answer specifics.

Hi,

I just started my membership in SA and currently in Medellin. I feel most of the conversations are going no where when I say lets meet for a coffee and then decide as I am not sure if I would like her in person. So I would highly appreciate any tips on getting started as I am kind of getting tired of the PL and other places.

Thanks again.

[Steve 9696]

Thanks for your post. Finally some good useful info on this thread for newbies instead of just a bunch of bragging.

Not sure who your bragging jab was aimed at but suppose it could have been me. I have had very great luck at SA and do like to post it here for two reasons:

1. I enjoy memorializing it and sharing it with other like minded folks. I truly enjoy reading the exploits of others and have been told many times people enjoy my FRs. I try to post the good and the bad. Mostly it's been good or great. Long time readers know I've had my heart broken and been taken to the cleaners for about $3000 in wasted spending. But I've shared and lived and learned.

2. I hope that people lurk here and will come to see what a paradise SA can be when done right. Especially in pussy prison USA. If you told me three years ago I'd be extolling the virtues of P4 P in the US I'd have said you were crazy. Now I am the number one fan.

That said if you are looking for tips for newbies happy to answer any questions you might have. I posted a full guide but it's back a lot of pages now but can repost or answer specifics.

I do have to disagree with The Manager when he asserts that an SB is 2-3 X more expensive than an escort. Maybe he had this backwards. Because there is no escort in the US in the 7+!looks category that is going to have dinner, fuck you and sleep over for $4-500 and that is par for the course on SA.

[FRobertson]

In my local paper today:

A FORMER elite Brisbane school student from a "loving family" who spat in the face of a cop and stole $1000 from a man she met on a sugar daddy site has received a sentence of imprisonment.

Bridgette Emily Fenton, 19, was immediately paroled after pleading guilty to 14 charges including assaults occasioning bodily harm, stealing, serious assault police, affray, enter dwelling and wilful damage.

The former Loreto College student's offending was driven by alcohol, the Brisbane Magistrates Court heard. The most serious offence occurred in June last year when Fenton met with a man in his Carrara unit after they communicated on the dating app "seeking arrangements", the court heard. After consuming wine the pair agreed on $1000 for intimacy but when the man left the room Fenton fled with the cash before anything occurred, the court heard. Fenton received 12 months imprisonment with a parole release date of Tuesday, taking into account 119 days already served. She was ordered to do 40 hours community service.

Good on the guy for following through and bringing her to justice.

$1000 for intimacy. What's wrong with some people?

[FRobertson]

Yeah def not. But touch that I am hypocritical on this topic. A year ago I would have said no way not taking the chance. But here I am a year later having fucked three different girls bareback. To be fair I never CIP, only shoot a small amount about an inch these days. LOL. I did some reading on pull out effectiveness and it's in the 90's when done right. I am pretty sure at my age I am going to do this way better than the general population of horny 20 somethings so prob on the high end of that. Actually my biggest issue is pulling out too soon and losing the shot and having to work up to it again! Hahaha. Didn't have that problem a few years back.

Anyhow it's a good reminder that I need to be careful snd keep my wits about me. And first time barebacking two different girls same month (not sure that's an awesome idea) so I will prob go back to condoms with Sue. She's too in love with me already. 😋.

I just remembered, back when I was a little less fat, a little less old, and a little less shy. Just enough to get a genuine girlfriend. (yes, that was years ago, so long I even forgot about it) I used vaginal contraception (spermicide gel, dissolving film) - something like this: https://www.walgreens.com/store/c/vc...417675-product. Many many unprotected injections and not a single problem, with different girls, too.

Certainly do your licking first, you don't want to taste the chemical, but otherwise it doesn't really interfere with the sensation as long as you get a quality product.

It pains me to imagine how badly could one of those girls mess up your life if she was to get pregnant and go bonkers. Especially if she's US-based.

https://rollingout.com/2014/02/04/woman-uses-sperm-oral-sex-get-pregnant-force-man-pay-child-support/
"In the ultimate case of relationship treachery, a woman collected the sperm she gathered from oral sex on her lover and used it to impregnate herself, then had the courts force the man to pay child support." $800 per month.

[AmorPorFavor]

For start I want to thank everyone contributing to this thread. I have myself been active on SA on and off for nearly a 10 year period and have gathered many experiences of being a SD in North America, Europe and South East Asia. Still it's always valuable to gain others perspectives.

Through my work I have a lot of business related travel and thus the opportunity to sample many places though often constrained by time. Something that typically doesn't jive well with my love for the girls-next-door that I find are immeasurably more likely to be found as sugarbabies than other kinds of sex workers.

So, I'll just throw out a few points on my process.

1. You have to be willing to spend. I'm wealthy. I'm not saying that with the intent to flex, but rather than to communicate that if you are going for sugarbabies to get your nut off then you need a deep wallet. An SB will typically cost you 2-3 x as much as an escort for the same time. That's excluding the dinners, cocktails and gifts that are typically needed to keep things alive.

2. You have to manage the relationship. IE, whereas an escort might be challenging to get on the hook you won't need any real social exchanges with her once you've agreed to a time, place and price.

3. You have to be able to walk away. Sugar is fickle by nature. While you can find genuine gems among potential SB's that are barely touched and extremely attractive you have very little idea going in what her goal in the sugar bowl is. Many have romanticized ideas about the what arrangements mean. Some think they just need to hold your hand to earn $$, others want to more or less date for several meetings before they commit to an arrangement (IE sex starts). All this requires screening and can be quite time consuming, which adds to costs if in your own work role is billing by the hour or simply have an occupation the requires many hours.

Now any monger reading this might be wondering "why go through all this trouble when I can just get some ass cheap and quick from a regular sex worker"? This is a completely legitimate protest. What you get with SBs though is something different. My focus is on top tier girls that I gladly pay the premium for. These are typically girls that have some profession and are not making a living by escorting / stripping / massaging etc. My roster history includes ballet dancers, ice dancers, models, business owners, photographers etc etc. They typically have in common that they don't think of themselves as sex workers but just need a little help with bills or projects. Some just wants to travel and get a new Gucci bag. In short, this is a game. For some people that translates as a waste of time and energy and I fully respect anyone that won't be part of that but rather get to the fucking / sucking / squeezing without further ado. But I love the game and I play it well.

Thanks for your post. Finally some good useful info on this thread for newbies instead of just a bunch of bragging.

[BrizLad]

In my local paper today:

A FORMER elite Brisbane school student from a "loving family" who spat in the face of a cop and stole $1000 from a man she met on a sugar daddy site has received a sentence of imprisonment.

Bridgette Emily Fenton, 19, was immediately paroled after pleading guilty to 14 charges including assaults occasioning bodily harm, stealing, serious assault police, affray, enter dwelling and wilful damage.

The former Loreto College student's offending was driven by alcohol, the Brisbane Magistrates Court heard. The most serious offence occurred in June last year when Fenton met with a man in his Carrara unit after they communicated on the dating app "seeking arrangements", the court heard. After consuming wine the pair agreed on $1000 for intimacy but when the man left the room Fenton fled with the cash before anything occurred, the court heard. Fenton received 12 months imprisonment with a parole release date of Tuesday, taking into account 119 days already served. She was ordered to do 40 hours community service.

Good on the guy for following through and bringing her to justice.

[Steve 9696]

Someone is ready to have little Steves running around!

Yeah def not. But touché that I am hypocritical on this topic. A year ago I would have said no way not taking the chance. But here I am a year later having fucked three different girls bareback. To be fair I never CIP, only shoot a small amount about an inch these days. LOL. I did some reading on pull out effectiveness and it's in the 90's when done right. I am pretty sure at my age I am going to do this way better than the general population of horny 20 somethings so prob on the high end of that. Actually my biggest issue is pulling out too soon and losing the shot and having to work up to it again! Hahaha. Didn't have that problem a few years back.

Anyhow it's a good reminder that I need to be careful snd keep my wits about me. And first time barebacking two different girls same month (not sure that's an awesome idea) so I will prob go back to condoms with Sue. She's too in love with me already. 😋.

[FRobertson]

So even tho the excitement of a first date is great, there are some great benefits from the comfort of a reg. Sue and I hadn't seen each other in about a month. It was great to see her again. She's just so genuine and goofy and so 22. Double edge sword is that she def has caught feelings for me.

We talk about NSA but there is no question she's got real feelings that I need to manage carefully. Got to say it's fun because being adored doesn't suck. Round one was spectacular. She basically worships my dick with her mouth and goes to another world when we fuck. And midway thru round two she says "I wish you didn't have to use the condom" and I say up to you babe. Well about ten seconds later we fucking bareback and damn that was fine.

So it was a great date all around. I do care for and about her so I've got to manage her infatuation but it's a nice problem to have. All good!

Someone is ready to have little Steves running around!

[Steve 9696]

So even tho the excitement of a first date is great, there are some great benefits from the comfort of a reg. Sue and I hadn't seen each other in about a month. It was great to see her again. She's just so genuine and goofy and so 22. Double edge sword is that she def has caught feelings for me.

We talk about NSA but there is no question she's got real feelings that I need to manage carefully. Got to say it's fun because being adored doesn't suck. Round one was spectacular. She basically worships my dick with her mouth and goes to another world when we fuck. And midway thru round two she says "I wish you didn't have to use the condom" and I say up to you babe. Well about ten seconds later we fucking bareback and damn that was fine.

So it was a great date all around. I do care for and about her so I've got to manage her infatuation but it's a nice problem to have. All good!

[TheManager]

For start I want to thank everyone contributing to this thread. I have myself been active on SA on and off for nearly a 10 year period and have gathered many experiences of being a SD in North America, Europe and South East Asia. Still it's always valuable to gain others perspectives.

Through my work I have a lot of business related travel and thus the opportunity to sample many places though often constrained by time. Something that typically doesn't jive well with my love for the girls-next-door that I find are immeasurably more likely to be found as sugarbabies than other kinds of sex workers.

So, I'll just throw out a few points on my process.

1. You have to be willing to spend. I'm wealthy. I'm not saying that with the intent to flex, but rather than to communicate that if you are going for sugarbabies to get your nut off then you need a deep wallet. An SB will typically cost you 2-3 x as much as an escort for the same time. That's excluding the dinners, cocktails and gifts that are typically needed to keep things alive.

2. You have to manage the relationship. IE, whereas an escort might be challenging to get on the hook you won't need any real social exchanges with her once you've agreed to a time, place and price.

3. You have to be able to walk away. Sugar is fickle by nature. While you can find genuine gems among potential SB's that are barely touched and extremely attractive you have very little idea going in what her goal in the sugar bowl is. Many have romanticized ideas about the what arrangements mean. Some think they just need to hold your hand to earn $$, others want to more or less date for several meetings before they commit to an arrangement (IE sex starts). All this requires screening and can be quite time consuming, which adds to costs if in your own work role is billing by the hour or simply have an occupation the requires many hours.

Now any monger reading this might be wondering "why go through all this trouble when I can just get some ass cheap and quick from a regular sex worker"? This is a completely legitimate protest. What you get with SBs though is something different. My focus is on top tier girls that I gladly pay the premium for. These are typically girls that have some profession and are not making a living by escorting / stripping / massaging etc. My roster history includes ballet dancers, ice dancers, models, business owners, photographers etc etc. They typically have in common that they don't think of themselves as sex workers but just need a little help with bills or projects. Some just wants to travel and get a new Gucci bag. In short, this is a game. For some people that translates as a waste of time and energy and I fully respect anyone that won't be part of that but rather get to the fucking / sucking / squeezing without further ado. But I love the game and I play it well.

[Elvis 2008]

You guys know how I do not line Colombia, chicks especially girls from MDE, in fact I usually just block them or delete there profile. Any way I met a new girl and she was from Bogota. Great experience, very nice and a total freak, we will definitely meet again. Rules are met to be broken.

This is the first time I have been around a girl from Colombia, that I did not want to kill myself with there crappy attitudes. Another thing, I have never had s Mexican girl tell me how hot they are. Colombian girls are always telling me how hot they are, major turn off for me.

I always found Americans traveling abroad to be nicer. It is like the opposite for Colombian women in Mexico. They are less nice.

I think part of that is the Mexican men are so damned crazy about them. It is hilarious to see them tripping over themselves with my gal. When we go to a restaurant, the Mexican waiters could give a fuck about me. But with her, the waiters are willing to kill themselves if she is not happy.

One Mexican cab driver picked out that my gal was Colombian. She asked him why, and he said her accent. That cracked me up. When I was in Peru, I could pick out the Venezuelan MEN versus Peruvian ones based on attractiveness. While I see women in Texas and California over 5 foot 9 all the time like my gal, I have never seen a Mexican woman that tall. You do not even see it that much in Colombia.

I have seen that attractiveness thing before with Medellin women. It is funny that my last two girlfriends weighed 120 pounds, but one was five foot and the other is five ten. The shorter one was from Medellin, and she was like a 7 beauty wise, but she was great in bed and had a wonderful personality. Thing is her beauty was not what drove me to her, and she was constantly showing me her tits and ass like I was supposed to be fawning all over them. I was tempted to say, "Honey, I am not with you for your looks." even though she was cute.

There was a woman I dated from Bogota, and she would send me videos of her masturbating. She was better looking, maybe an 8. One video would have been nice, but it was multiple videos that lasted like ten minutes total. It was too much and a turn off. I was like, "Honey, I can watch hotter porn than this", but the idea that I am supposed to melt at her looks bugged me. She was adamant that I not share these videos like they somehow were worth gold. It was not as bad as the Medellin girl but it was not good either.

Thing is that I am seeing how different Colombians are based on where they live in the country. Medellin is everything you have said it is and outside of the weather and pollution, I like Bogota better than Medellin in almost every way. Thing is the women I met from the coast, the Costenas, are my favorites. They are the nicest, and IMO the best looking, and most sexual and do not seem to be as cocky. Even though they are in a distinct minority of women I have been with, the top three or four fucks I have had in Colombia have been with the Costenas.

And to me, when I went to Cali, it was like virgin territory. The potential for SA there seemed to be huge. I met a stunning black law student and a white girl with a perfect body (she was a PE teacher) but a bit of a butter face who was on her period. I was literally the first guy she ever gave head to, and I doubt either of these women would have that Medellin attitude you speak of.

[WyattEarp]

Fat chicks are fine with me, as long as they have huge tits. Plus, many younger fat girls are firm. It is when they get older that the fat starts to sag. So, a young firm fat girl with huge tits is awesome.

I hooked with up a young fat chick with monster tits several months ago, and I have been trying like crazy to see her again, but we keep missing each other.

Yep, chubby girls can carry the weight. It all seems to slide and even balloon starting in their late 20's. I had a cute friend who was a very busty chubby. By her thirties, the pounds were taking their toll in my eyes. She said guys would still want to hook up with her for a chance to roll around and play with her rack.

If you look at Seeking, the body types for curvy, athletic and average can hold a wide range of types. You'll see thin girls and outright fat girls in all of those categories. The Latinas seem to like to describe themselves as curvy. When by general American standards, some would be considered slim. It would also seem you get a lot of photo manipulation. Faces and bodies look very different from one photo to the next.