Seeking Arrangements

[Steve 9696]

1. Do you guys avoid single moms? I was talking to one woman who was very direct, asked if I wanted to meet right away, ppm 800 which was the highest I'd seen at that point. Couldn't meet on the weekends bc of the kids but looked good, profile said she was kinky so I was tempted. Kept texting me to stay in contact too. Told her I'd think about it because of the high ppm and the kids, didn't want anything complicated and she blasted me accusing me of paying for sex LOL. I read a post awhile back about a single mom scam. Pay for the sitter, the car repair etc so should I just avoid them from now on?

2. Outrageous pricing. Good looking 19 yo told me her ppm was 1800. She wasn't a model and I'm sure some guys around here can swing that but if that's where things are going my time here is limited. Another ok looking 22 yo said she usually does 1 k and could only go to 800. I'm in awe of you guys getting 3-400.

I avoid single moms. Logistics are just too tough. And you can get the guilt trip bad. I had a girl (after we fucked once) asking for diaper and formula money. Fuck. I'm a nice guy but I don't need that shit. I sometimes say I want to be the frosting not the cake!

Anyone asking $800 and up just kick to curb. Keep at it. Your not going to get 3-4 in a major city these days but you going to get a winner at 500 if you just keep at it.

[The Cane]

Well I'm still out here grinding guys. Seeking on SA! And what a ride it's been. I'm still seeing Abby, the girl who I met back in January, and so far so good! We really enjoy the no drama time we spend together, both in and out of the sack. But already, I'm worried about things getting a little stale. Not that we're there yet, but I guess it's just the monger in me seeping in. I mean, I haven't been steady fucking the same woman in years and years and years! So, it's just all a little weird for me right now if you know what I mean. I keep looking for different ways to keep it interesting for the both of us. You know, mix it up some. Both sexually and non-sexually. Been working slow but steady to get into her pink butt hole LOLOLOL! As for new action, unfortunately I don't have anything interesting to report on that front.

It's not like I haven't had my chances. There was one hottie I was talking to who lives about an hour and a half away from me. Things were progressing really well, but then I stopped and asked myself. Why am I doing this? I mean, I live in a large metro area with plenty of prospects much, much closer to me. And I'm not desperate from some pussy. So, I'm not driving to some new pussy an hour and a half away! Blew it all off and moved on, and I actually met up with a young, white, 23 year-old, college grad. The meet and greet all went swimmingly well, and she was down. Hell, she out and out told me she was ready to suck my dick LOL! The thing is, although she was cute in her own way, there simply was no sexual attraction to her from my end. So, I ended up passing on the opportunity. We have texted back and forth a few times since, but I made no follow-up moves. After a while, a girl gets the message I'm sure. She is nice and cute and bubbly. But, no sexual desire in me to fuck her.

And then of course, there was that "scam event" that I told you all about. Set up a dinner date with "somebody" after communicating with them for a week, then they tried to pull the old "can you send me some money to cover gas and the sitter" LOLOLOL! Like I said, I just had to laugh out loud about it. It didn't cost me much but a little investment of my time, and a nice dinner that I enjoyed by myself. Which brings me to where I've been with this thing from the beginning. It's simply just too much work. The fakes, the flakes, the fraudsters, and the scammers. That's mostly what the site is. Abby and I keep telling each other that we absolutely cannot believe we found each other on "that bullshit site". One more month left of my membership. And then I'm out. At least for a very, very long while! Until my next and final report my friends!

[GoingDumb]

1. Do you guys avoid single moms? I was talking to one woman who was very direct, asked if I wanted to meet right away, ppm 800 which was the highest I'd seen at that point. Couldn't meet on the weekends bc of the kids but looked good, profile said she was kinky so I was tempted. Kept texting me to stay in contact too. Told her I'd think about it because of the high ppm and the kids, didn't want anything complicated and she blasted me accusing me of paying for sex LOL. I read a post awhile back about a single mom scam. Pay for the sitter, the car repair etc so should I just avoid them from now on?

2. Outrageous pricing. Good looking 19 yo told me her ppm was 1800. She wasn't a model and I'm sure some guys around here can swing that but if that's where things are going my time here is limited. Another ok looking 22 yo said she usually does 1 k and could only go to 800. I'm in awe of you guys getting 3-400.

[Steve 9696]

This is such a good line. I'm def using this.

Later in your FR you talked about giving her a choice as you left the restaurant. For me I would have made a little assumption that she was staying if she wasn't peeling off to her car.

Totally agree. OP was spot on with that response and it worked! Agree w you as well. Once you say "want to get out of here" which is code for let's have sex you want to lead directly to hotel. But I will say I have had a deer in the highlights moment even just this past year with Mika where we were outside and I was like "um so what do you think?" I was just befuddled by her awesomeness! And she said said "I think I really like you" and kissed me full on the lips and said where is your hotel?

Just goes to show these girls are down and the deal is sealed pretty early in the date. Nonetheless the strong lead to hotel approach has also scored a handful of girls (including one long term) that I know I never would have bedded or seen again with a soft lead.

[Black Eyes]

The short answer is to use a prepaid Visa. I buy them at Kroger and get 2 x (or 4 x during promos) Fuel Points, plus miles on the card I use to buy the Visa.

Before you can reliably use them, you'll need to register the cards online, giving an address. The good news is that you don't need to register them with your real name or address, but you need to be consistent, using the name / address you register when paying for your membership. I just use my long deceased grandfather's name and address.

Thanks for your response.

I did use a prepaid card. But tried the monthly subscription since I was trying it for one month to see how it goes.

Could it be the reason rather than selecting a one time option.

[AsianPursuits]

However, Wednesday AM, I get a text saying "Hey, I'm not sure I should be doing this. You are traveling here. So, this is likely a ONS. I'm not looking for ONS. Good luck with your search". My heart stopped for a minute but responded "Listen, I recognize I'm traveling but I never said that I won't be flying you out to me if we have the chemistry. I'd hate to end this even before it started but if that is your decision, I respect you at that. If I were you, I'd at least meet for dinner and see where it takes us. In the end, if you decide to walk away, you can. No questions asked". After 30/40 minutes of silence, she agreed. Game on.

This is such a good line. I'm def using this.

Later in your FR you talked about giving her a choice as you left the restaurant. For me I would have made a little assumption that she was staying if she wasn't peeling off to her car.

[Gfefan]

Yet again it does that. It is Miss "the" - my favorite. And Miss K the hot 9 rated.

Thanks, Steve. Don't think I would have hit 4 home runs in a week without your (and other seniors here) guidance. Much appreciated.

Apologies for the many typos on the FR with my first girl. It is Miss the. For some reason, it turns it all to THE. She and I have great chemistry, yes. I'm going to fly her to me or take her on a trip with me. Very sweet girl. The hottie (9) - Miss K. Who insisted on a condom on Wed came back to see me on Friday (she wanted to see me before I left). The second time, we ditched the condom. Even better sex. I also had one at my place last week. All those reports are coming soon.

Totally agreed. SA is lot of work. Time investment. Lot to weed through but once done, the quality of sex and chemistry is amazing. Cannot find this with pros. Spoiled. Yes.

Haven't done CIP barring my first SB. I kind of felt nervous after that for a while. So, decided no more CIP but enjoy the BBFS. Not 100% safe but yet better than CIP.

[Gfefan]

Thanks, Steve. Don't think I would have hit 4 home runs in a week without your (and other seniors here) guidance. Much appreciated.

Apologies for the many typos on the FR with my first girl. It is Miss the. For some reason, it turns it all to THE. She and I have great chemistry, yes. I'm going to fly her to me or take her on a trip with me. Very sweet girl. The hottie (9) - Miss K. Who insisted on a condom on Wed came back to see me on Friday (she wanted to see me before I left). The second time, we ditched the condom. Even better sex. I also had one at my place last week. All those reports are coming soon.

Totally agreed. SA is lot of work. Time investment. Lot to weed through but once done, the quality of sex and chemistry is amazing. Cannot find this with pros. Spoiled. Yes.

Haven't done CIP barring my first SB. I kind of felt nervous after that for a while. So, decided no more CIP but enjoy the BBFS. Not 100% safe but yet better than CIP.

Wow GFEfan. Those are amazing stories. And welcome to the "spoiled forever" club. Once you have had it roll like this, paying to fuck an hour seems a shade (or more) less awesome. Not that I'll stop doing that!

And completely textbook awesome escalation and seduction. You the man! And I don't mean text book in a bad way because obviously it came naturally to you. Hands across the table is a classic. In one of my rare sex-fails (attempted civilian date) when I did the hands reach she didn't want to take them. I should have know right then we were done. Instead we played the charade another half hour only to part sexless. But all other times its been a nice moment leading to the bedroom.

I love your response to the ONS objection. I could not have written it better. Sometimes they need just a light push and some justification. And its on!

Love all the play by play but my fave is when you are getting a BJ on the balcony while sipping your wine and looking at the waves roll in. King of the world man! Best of luck with ur first girl, where the chemistry was magic, and all your yet to be discovered hotties.

[Steve 9696]

Wow GFEfan. Those are amazing stories. And welcome to the "spoiled forever" club. Once you have had it roll like this, paying to fuck an hour seems a shade (or more) less awesome. Not that I'll stop doing that!

And completely textbook awesome escalation and seduction. You the man! And I don't mean text book in a bad way because obviously it came naturally to you. Hands across the table is a classic. In one of my rare sex-fails (attempted civilian date) when I did the hands reach she didn't want to take them. I should have know right then we were done. Instead we played the charade another half hour only to part sexless. But all other times it’s been a nice moment leading to the bedroom.

I love your response to the ONS objection. I could not have written it better. Sometimes they need just a light push and some justification. And its on!

Love all the play by play but my fave is when you are getting a BJ on the balcony while sipping your wine and looking at the waves roll in. King of the world man! Best of luck with ur first girl, where the chemistry was magic, and all your yet to be discovered hotties.

[The Cane]

Great accounts man. Great accounts! It's as if you attended the Steve Writing School for Mongers LOLOL! And you're doing great on the pricing too! Getting it good at favorable rates. Bravo! Bravo!

[Gfefan]

So, after enjoying time with Miss the, and missing out on Miss M, I move to next city.

Landed on Tuesday late afternoon. Nice sunny day with beaches. Rented a car and go to my resort. A run by the beach and great dinner in the evening.

I had reached out to maybe 50/60 girls on SA but weeded out all those that were sure shot pros (nothing against them but if I wanted a pro, why invest so much time on SA? I might as well get it easily on other sites) and those that were purely transactional (give me $, I will give you time / sex). This left me with only a handful.

One lady. Miss K. Her pics were super hot. Like a 9. We moved from SA to text (all these started a couple weeks before reaching the city. Per veteran advices here. Thanks to you all). We had planned for Wednesday. She owns a spa and said she could meet only after 8 PM.

However, Wednesday AM, I get a text saying "Hey, I'm not sure I should be doing this. You are traveling here. So, this is likely a ONS. I'm not looking for ONS. Good luck with your search". My heart stopped for a minute but responded "Listen, I recognize I'm traveling but I never said that I won't be flying you out to me if we have the chemistry. I'd hate to end this even before it started but if that is your decision, I respect you at that. If I were you, I'd at least meet for dinner and see where it takes us. In the end, if you decide to walk away, you can. No questions asked". After 30/40 minutes of silence, she agreed. Game on.

I booked a nice restaurant 5 minutes walk from my hotel (thanks, Steve), and she had to drive 45 kms to get to me. She was a bit late but she did show up and apologized. Gosh. In person, I have this super tall model like figure, long legs, high cheeks, twinkling eyes, and a nice cleavage that was visible just enough to get my mind running wild. We start talking. She asks a lot of questions to get to know me. I'm careful not to divulge what I shouldn't but answered here genuinely. Maintained eye contact throughout without letting my eyes wander down to her cleavage (at least not when she is looking). She is originally from Russia, dated a British guy and ended up with a kid but not married. Runs her own business. Haven't had a man in a while but is also afraid to get involved seriously given her recent experience. Basically, she opened up gradually over the two hours of dinner (and drinks helped her open up, for sure) and I get the drift of it that she wants good sex, respect, but no commitment. Perfect.

I do that same trick. Once we spoke, and got to know each other. Once I know she is getting comfortable with me, I reach out and hold her hands from across the table. Same trick I used with Miss the. It worked with Miss K as well. I get the check, and we walk out. I ask her "So, what do you think? You want to walk away now as a friend or. ?" and winked. She blushes first, laughs, gathers herself and goes "I think I want to spend more time with you. Let's go to your room? Do you have some drinks in room? I had kept some wine ready. So, off we go. She even allows me to ride in her car, we park near my hotel. We walk up. With my arms around her waist. Holding her tight. She responds in kind. (Exact same thing as Miss D). Good signs.

We go to my room (has a balcony looking over the ocean). We grab wine, relax in the balcony on two separate chairs. At some point, I signaled her to come sit on my lap. She quickly moved over as if she had been waiting for me to make the first move. We sip more wine and I gradually stoke her hair. Put my hand behind her neck and pull her towards me for a kiss. It was gentle at first and she makes the first move of tongue digging deeper into mine. We kiss for a while and take a break. Sip more wine. Again, we started kissing. BY this time, I had finished my glass. Put it down and started using both my hands. One hand wandering freely on her back and another on her thighs. She places her wine aside and put both her hands around me and pulls me closer. Deeper kisses.

I'm now emboldened and slip my hand under her dress. Play with her boobs (I could feel them nice and firm, natural. Just the way I like it). As things start heating up, she moans and her kisses were becoming harder. She breathes heavier. I'm fully turned on. In one swift motion I pulled her dress and bra to one side fully exposing her left boob. I dived right in and started to suck on them. It started well but she quickly pulled back as it was too sensitive (she says it became sensitive after having a kid. I believe her). But, she says she still likes to be sucked there but not on nipples. And, she pulled my head back to her boobs. We keep making out this way for a while and then, I pulled off her right boob as well. Same exercise. No discrimination right vs. Left (She pulls my shirt off and runs over my chest. And I pulled her dress off. Here we are half naked, with her only in her bras, making out on a balcony facing the sea. She quickly kneels down between my knees, unzips me and pulls the guy out (already hard) and starts licking at first before taking the boy completely in. Boy. What a BBBJ. I pick up her wine, drink some, enjoy the sea breeze while having a hot chick sucking my dick.

Then, I lift her up, we both are still kissing and walking half naked from the balcony to the room. I push her on the bed and dived right in for a DATY. She moans, laughs, giggles and builds momentum. At some point she said. In exact words - "Baby, I want you inside me. I haven't felt a dick in a long while. Please put it inside". I'm about to oblige in raw but she stopped me. Bummer. She wants a condom. Luckily, I had some. Slip it on and we start fucking. The problem with me is. With condom, I tend to lose it. It is impossible to get it again. So, I fuck her hard and fast. But, that hard and fast lasted for a good 8/10 minutes. She came multiple times as her legs wrapped around me were shaking. I see our bodies wrapped in one in the huge mirror. I counted at least three times her coming. Each time, she would scratch my chest, or hold me tight (in mish and bury her nails on my back. Boy, heaven). I see her boobs move as I go deeper and harder. After a while, I shoot my load. We lay there cuddling each other.

The condom took a lot of fun off but still it was a great fuck. She then showered (I offered to join like I did with Miss the, but she refused). She came back out dressed. While she was in shower, I had her 250 (as agreed previously) in an envelop beside her bag (just the way I did with D). We hugged, embraced for a couple minutes. I could feel her check behind my back whether I have paid as agreed while I was hugging her. But I decide not to make a big deal out of it. Walked with her to the car. Another passionate kiss near the car and off she went.

She texted me once she reached home that she has reached safe.

[Gfefan]

So, following up on my first report (more to come, as I had a week long fun).

After an amazing date with Miss the on Saturday evening, I had one on standby for Sunday. The idea was if things went south on Sat, I have Sunday for action. This lady seemed genuinely nice. Spoke little English but good enough for us both to communicate. However, Saturday evening the and I met at 9 PM, had dinner, then hung out at bar, then eventually, she and I were fucking each other till 2 AM. Then, we both fell asleep only to make love again at 8 AM. The left my hotel around 1030 AM.

Was pretty tired. I did some sight seeing, grabbed lunch and took a nap. Later in the evening, the backup lady was keen on meeting me but I knew it was not going to be a home run. She was more interested in knowing me. I was just so tired and did not have the energy for a dinner. Skipped it citing some excuses.

For Monday, I had a 20 why. O. Miss M. Lined up. She was going to college and was going to meet me for lunch at 2 PM. I had a nice restaurant booked. She said she was 20. I checked up age of consent in Spain and all good. I was also going to check her ID somehow before taking her to my room. While texting, she had told me that she has had sex only once in her life before (and that she was looking for a more mature man to "teach" her. How exciting!

We kept in touch, and once I reach the lunch place, her messages start reducing. I had a weird feeling but she did not show up. I still went ahead, had a nice lunch, few drinks, and went sight seeing. Well, what goes around comes around. I bailed out on the Sunday lady. Monday someone bailed out on me.

Later that evening, I was horny again. Tried to get in touch with the but she had work to do. Seemed genuine. So, decided to check out some swinger clubs. Tried two of those but for some reason, both the clubs I went to told me they were closed. Not sure why but anyway. I had a great night with the which made my trip.

There was another 23 why. O I was in touch with. She was DTF, super cute but was expecting an amount even for a meet and greet. Said something like "My time is so precious. Even for M&G, I do take gifts". Not my kinda girl. Told her right away - "OK. I see everything else to be a good fit but if you think your time is precious for M&G, the converse goes true as well. My money is too precious to pay you just for having lunch with me. I'm not that desperate".

Tuesday AM, I took my flight out to the next city.

[ColoradoHobby]

Hi guys,

Need some help.

I was trying to pay for the seeking premium membership as and the payments were declined.

I don't want to pay using my credit card.

Is there any way to make the payment.

Cheers and regards..

The short answer is to use a prepaid Visa. I buy them at Kroger and get 2 x (or 4 x during promos) Fuel Points, plus miles on the card I use to buy the Visa.

Before you can reliably use them, you'll need to register the cards online, giving an address. The good news is that you don't need to register them with your real name or address, but you need to be consistent, using the name / address you register when paying for your membership. I just use my long deceased grandfather's name and address.

[Gfefan]

Good point. Totally forgot that.

So, at the back of my mind, when I knew she was going to end up on my bed that night, I wanted to set "expectations" but somehow I also felt I did not want to lose the opportunity. Let things flow. Next day, after breakfast, when she was freshening up before leaving my hotel, I left 300 in an envelope beside her bag. I know she picked it up but did not check anything in frontof me (good sign).

We are still in touch (planning her trip to me). I asked her if she was happy with what I offered. She goes "I really like you. Whatever you offered is much more than what I wanted".

No talk about $. The way she said it, it looks like she is lookimg at me as total package while I am doing the same.

Honestly, for a quality girl like this, I would pay more.

This feeling of friends with benefits, no condom, texting each other. Escorts no longer appeal to me.

Well! Seems like you took all of the advice to heart and used it well. Your own grand slam home run! However, you did leave out some key data. What was the "damage"? How much of your wealth did you part with for the privilege and the honor?

[AsianPursuits]

You guys ever see a profile from a girl who comes across as totally desperate? I avoid those types like the plague. I saw one last night where she's like "I lost my job and have two kids and I'm doing this because I need to feed my children. Please help"! I've seen a few like that. I'm on my last leg kind of stuff and please help me. If the person is for real, then I suppose like anything it could go good or it could go bad. But, my inclination is to stay away from anybody sounding too desperate. Where there's smoke there's fire, and a lot of problems I don't want to have introduced into my life.

Not the traits you wants in a SB and that's even if it's not a scam profile. For sure they will be asking for cash before you see her (or him).

Easier to just move on and put your savior traits where they belong.