Seeking Arrangements

[Blue Swede]

Sometimes, once you're in, you're in forever. I've had several ex-GFs that later married, and ex-WGs that later went legit, and they are still DTF with me because, after us having done the deed a dozen plus times already, who cares if we do it a few more times? At least that's how I think their subconscious mind works. I currently have a situation similar to yours. She lives in a city that I visit once or twice per year. When I'm in town, we just meet for sex. No dating or anything. I just go over to her place and we do the deed. Been going on for almost 10 years now. Another FWB told me that she got engaged, but she said we'the still be FWBs. Not lying. Not bragging. I'm sure others have experienced the same. Enjoy it. Don't question it.

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Enjoy it, why it last, do not question the arrangement, have fun. One of the girls I am with in MTY is model, smoking hot and so nice. I ask myself the same questions, then I think about it. I will Continue to have fun and see what happens. I am 51 and she is 26, too much fun and some of the best sex of my life. Unfortunately I have not seen her for 2 weeks her parents are in town, but they are leaving Monday or Tuesday. I need to go back to Austin for work, but will be back the following week, depending on the lockdown, they are definitely getting stricter in Mexico.

Have fun.

Thanks for the replies!

I will of course not question this. I have tried to briefly discuss the topic och her "boyfriend", as she mentioned that she had met a guy and didn't know how that will develope in future. (that was about the time they married).

She just change subject and I will not push it.

Interesting is than she lately prefer to meet either early evening (like 5 pm) or mornings, so I guess she does this on her way to or from work. .

Suits me perfect. I can meet another SB in the evening and get a nice "room service" in the morning!

I am just waiting for this pandemic situation to end, as everybody else.

[Elvis 2008]

She was clearly dating this 40+ guy, they also married and moved in together about two years ago.

All this time, and still (with a covid pause for the moment) she is still seeing me when I am in town.
I cannot understand why in the world she is (still) seeing me!?
She has a very handsome man, she is very pretty, she has a top job and she is problably well payed.
How do I fit in this picture, guy double her age? Help me to understand this!.

It has been 10 years so I may as well brag now. Below are the photos of a married woman I was with. Two of the three photos are her and her fraternal twin sister.

I took the two of them to a business conference and let me tell you I know what it was like to be famous. Everyone wanted to talked to me and know what was up with me and them and I just said that these women worked for me. These two were actually smart enough to pull it off.

I do not know if the photos do her justice. When I saw her, I was like, "Damn, I think that is her. I hope that is her." When I took her on another trip, every minute somebody stopped us and asked of a pic of her. Maybe the pics do not do her justice, but she was a 10.

So why was she with me? Well, I did not know she was married at first. Slowly, the story came out. She had female surgery and her husband claimed to be unable to cum with masturbating and was suffering from blue balls. She fucked him and it was incredibly painful for her. She later found out that he had porn and masturbated all the time, and she was furious about that.

She was a housewife not working and frequently found fault with him and her kids. As hot as she was, I think even he got kind of tired of her. When they had sex, he would finish in less than a minute. She was so unsatisfied that she was like why even bother?

Then one time she came home to find lingerie near her bed that was not hers. I am sure he was handsome, and he was a military guy. When I was not talking to her about his sex life, I could tell she loved him and admired him. Also, he was supporting her and their children. Maybe he was the kind of sexual scum she was talking about but I could see how she drove him to be like that.

A few months after seeing me, she sadly got raped. She was afraid to let any man touch her but me and her husband, and he was not satisfying her. I saw her every three months or so. She would get up and ride me as long as I could stand it. She was so happy fucking me. Man did that woman have endurance. She even confessed to dreaming about my penis one time before we met.

I mentioned being a little more serious one time and was shot down which kind of pissed me off. She also wanted huge $$ and she could get it. If she were an escort, she could make $700 an hour easy, and I was just paying her $500 for a day or several hours. Thing is that I was seeing women who were just in good in bed for half that and I eventually felt a little guilty about the marriage thing. Part of the time when I was seeing her, I went through a divorce, and I have to say I kind of resented her living off her husband while talking shit about him. That hit too close to home for me.

So Blue Swede, to answer your question, why is she with you? Honestly, you are probably a better fuck than you think. A lot of guys do not give a shit about pleasing their wife, and they are off fucking new and strange. I am sick of women that I see for a time that inevitably do not care about how they perform in the bedroom. With my ex, eventually, there was no oral sex, and we only did missionary. She may be a great fuck for you but horrible for him doing the one position no oral shit I endured. I would be shocked if the husband is not playing around too.

I assumed good looking men are great in the bedroom, but I was surprised when a black woman I was with told me that I was better than most black athletes. Hell, she even mentioned football and basketball players by name. These men have chiseled bodies and I assumed were very well hung. I didn't believe her but when you have five or ten women tell you something and they are screaming with an orgasm and telling you how great you are, I did finally think there was something to it. What I have found is that a lot of the "great looking" guys are all roided up and cannot get an erection. Either that or they expect the women to do all the work. She mentioned one basketball player and said, "he is the only guy I have been with who is as good as you." I was like. WTF?

When a 25 year old Colombian fucked me the first time, she said it was the best fuck she ever had, and I finally believed it. I am in my 50's, could stand to lose a few pounds, and do not fit anyone's stereotype of what a good lover looks like. This time I am not bragging. Only reason I am bringing this up is do not concede that you are a worse lover than her husband. You probably care more about pleasing your woman than he does.

So why did the blonde fuck me? I was a nice guy, generous, good in the sack, and she felt safe with me. I wish I would have had the confidence 10 years ago that I have today. I would have been unstoppable, but I had a wife who could shame Mother Theresa, and I stupidly put up with her shit.

[Midwestern]

Ever tell a girl that "all girls are bad at giving BJs"? Sometimes, they cannot wait to prove you wrong, LOLOL.

Of course she does blowjobs. She was just putting up resistance that had to be broken thru. It was clear once broken thru that she knew her way around a dick. Actually she did that thing where she deep throat's and then uses her tongue at base of shaft. Only had this with a Vegas hooker before.

I've learned by reading a bit of PUA / Nanpa to be persistent and work thru this kind of resistance. I still think my crowning moment was with Jesse when she said "I can't have sex with a guy I just met" only to work thru that resistance and fuck a short time later.

These were different tho. With Jesse it was a matter of kissing passionately and working her tits till she's worked up and then teasing her pussy till she said "OK we can fuck now. Just turn down the lights. " LOL. With Arianna it was more her proving she's not weird or stuck up. I left out a bit of the back and forth. When i said it was weird she said well i mean I used to. Actually I used to be a **** and I give a great blowjob. Of course I said oh interesting and at some point I said something about her showing me those skills.

So she did the BJ as a point of pride. She's a weird pretty damaged chick. And really a nice person under it all. I realize also that Jesse was only 20 and Arianna just turned 21. So younger girls. I notice a huge difference between 21 and 23 year olds. Girls grow up in those two years more than any other. On the other hand Valentina was 20 when she took me to the swingers club LOL. So YMMV.

And oh, she went and spit. But didn't make a big deal about it.

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[Midwestern]

Sometimes, once you're in, you're in forever. I've had several ex-GFs that later married, and ex-WGs that later went legit, and they are still DTF with me because, after us having done the deed a dozen plus times already, who cares if we do it a few more times? At least that's how I think their subconscious mind works. I currently have a situation similar to yours. She lives in a city that I visit once or twice per year. When I'm in town, we just meet for sex. No dating or anything. I just go over to her place and we do the deed. Been going on for almost 10 years now. Another FWB told me that she got engaged, but she said we'the still be FWBs. Not lying. Not bragging. I'm sure others have experienced the same. Enjoy it. Don't question it.

I met a girl via SA a couple of years ago, she is living in a city I visit a couple of times per year in my job.
Every time I am in town, we meet. I am 60+ and she is 31. She is slim, classy and very pretty. Sex is perfect. .
This has been ongoing for 3-4 years.

Already on the second date, I by "mistake" noticed a text message popping up on her phone while she was in the shower. A full name of the sender and a couple of hearts in the message. .
She had never told me her full name, but now it was a one minute job to find out all details via social media.
(Also found out that she had a job as a sales executive at a large company.).
She was clearly dating this 40+ guy, they also married and moved in together about two years ago.

All this time, and still (with a covid pause for the moment) she is still seeing me when I am in town.
I cannot understand why in the world she is (still) seeing me!?
She has a very handsome man, she is very pretty, she has a top job and she is problably well payed.
How do I fit in this picture, guy double her age? Help me to understand this! .

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[Steve 9696]

Something seems really off here. So she doesn't do blowjobs and then takes a load in her mouth? Did she run screaming to the bathroom or just sucked it down like a champ?

Of course she does blowjobs. She was just putting up resistance that had to be broken thru. It was clear once broken thru that she knew her way around a dick. Actually she did that thing where she deep throat's and then uses her tongue at base of shaft. Only had this with a Vegas hooker before.

I've learned by reading a bit of PUA / Nanpa to be persistent and work thru this kind of resistance. I still think my crowning moment was with Jesse when she said "I can't have sex with a guy I just met" only to work thru that resistance and fuck a short time later.

These were different tho. With Jesse it was a matter of kissing passionately and working her tits till she's worked up and then teasing her pussy till she said "OK we can fuck now. Just turn down the lights. " LOL. With Arianna it was more her proving she's not weird or stuck up. I left out a bit of the back and forth. When i said it was weird she said well i mean I used to. Actually I used to be a **** and I give a great blowjob. Of course I said oh interesting and at some point I said something about her showing me those skills.

So she did the BJ as a point of pride. She's a weird pretty damaged chick. And really a nice person under it all. I realize also that Jesse was only 20 and Arianna just turned 21. So younger girls. I notice a huge difference between 21 and 23 year olds. Girls grow up in those two years more than any other. On the other hand Valentina was 20 when she took me to the swingers club LOL. So YMMV.

And oh, she went and spit. But didn't make a big deal about it.

[Dickus Maximus]

...Eventually it's clear I am down for a BJ but she literally says "I don't give blowjobs". And I tell her that's super odd because I've never been with a girl that didn't. Again Long story short she eventually blows me and it's a very good BBBJ. But like totally without life or passion or chemistry. I bless her with a hot load in her mouth regardless because her technique is excellent....

Something seems really off here. So she doesn't do blowjobs and then takes a load in her mouth? Did she run screaming to the bathroom or just sucked it down like a champ?

[DramaFree11]

I met a girl via SA a couple of years ago, she is living in a city I visit a couple of times per year in my job.
Every time I am in town, we meet. I am 60+ and she is 31. She is slim, classy and very pretty. Sex is perfect. .
This has been ongoing for 3-4 years.

Already on the second date, I by "mistake" noticed a text message popping up on her phone while she was in the shower. A full name of the sender and a couple of hearts in the message. .
She had never told me her full name, but now it was a one minute job to find out all details via social media.
(Also found out that she had a job as a sales executive at a large company.).
She was clearly dating this 40+ guy, they also married and moved in together about two years ago.

All this time, and still (with a covid pause for the moment) she is still seeing me when I am in town.
I cannot understand why in the world she is (still) seeing me!?
She has a very handsome man, she is very pretty, she has a top job and she is problably well payed.
How do I fit in this picture, guy double her age? Help me to understand this! .

Enjoy it, why it last, do not question the arrangement, have fun. One of the girls I am with in MTY is model, smoking hot and so nice. I ask myself the same questions, then I think about it. I will Continue to have fun and see what happens. I am 51 and she is 26, too much fun and some of the best sex of my life. Unfortunately I have not seen her for 2 weeks her parents are in town, but they are leaving Monday or Tuesday. I need to go back to Austin for work, but will be back the following week, depending on the lockdown, they are definitely getting stricter in Mexico.

Have fun.

[Blue Swede]

I met a girl via SA a couple of years ago, she is living in a city I visit a couple of times per year in my job.
Every time I am in town, we meet. I am 60+ and she is 31. She is slim, classy and very pretty. Sex is perfect. .
This has been ongoing for 3-4 years.

Already on the second date, I by "mistake" noticed a text message popping up on her phone while she was in the shower. A full name of the sender and a couple of hearts in the message. .
She had never told me her full name, but now it was a one minute job to find out all details via social media.
(Also found out that she had a job as a sales executive at a large company.).
She was clearly dating this 40+ guy, they also married and moved in together about two years ago.

All this time, and still (with a covid pause for the moment) she is still seeing me when I am in town.
I cannot understand why in the world she is (still) seeing me!?
She has a very handsome man, she is very pretty, she has a top job and she is problably well payed.
How do I fit in this picture, guy double her age? Help me to understand this! .

[CarloRogue]

I am a bit surprised that no one has raised this topic, but have any of you guys met married women on SA?

Yes, and they come in different flavors. The type you describe is the older woman in a sexless marriage that is otherwise committed to her marriage. Usually they do this with the husband's consent, as in your case. I have also come across one that admitted she was doing it behind her husband's back, and that I would be her first affair. She had young kids, and I couldn't get past the idea of being a homewrecker, so I passed.

The second type is the swinger hotwife, usually a bit older like the first category, in a very open relationship and looking to post numbers so to speak (usually, although they won't come out and admit that). I've dabbled in the swinger scene for several years and have occasionally run across an SA profile of someone I had previously met at a swing event. Sometimes they're looking for a threesome with hubby, sometimes a partner to take to events and parties. I've always passed on these, since it's not the dynamic I come to SA for, and I can always have them via other means.

The last category is a relatively new phenomenon, which is the married girl (like early 20's) in an open relationship. It seems that many in the younger generation don't put the same traditional value into marriage that our generation does (or did). Perhaps they're trying to satisfy their parents by getting married, but they haven't lived out their single life yet, so they have an open marriage. I'm not sure, but it is a generational difference. I've had short term relationships with a couple of these. I say short term because they were really into it, but then suddenly ghosted me. I take it that their emotional needs are satisfied elsewhere, so it's harder to build any kind of friendship-like connection with them. But, these are really fun, I must confess. I had one young Asian mother a couple years ago, who was still lactating from giving birth just a few months prior. Just a crazy experience (got to check breastfeeding off the bucket list).

[Bdb013]

I am headed to CDMX in a couple weeks. I have started scouting on SA. Any good leads anyone might share?

[Steve 9696]

I am a bit surprised that no one has raised this topic, but have any of you guys met married women on SA?

I met one married person on SA while I was in a small city in the states. She was totally into me based on my pic and profile, but I eventually decided to bail on her because I thought it would be too weird to be with a married chick, and I was also worried that her husband would find out and kill me.

However, I later had a great fling with a woman in San Francisco that I met on SA, and eventually she told me that she was married, but she was in a sexless marriage and that she desperately needed to have NSA sex. She said she tried different websites, but eventually decided that the most successful and the most alpha males were on SA. When it came to payment, she never cared about it too much, and just viewed any gift or cash as a nice bonus, but she didn't need the money. I have to say, the sex was incredible. She really was starving for sex. After that, I started to cruise SA to see if I could find other married women, and I did. I found two others that I hit it off with, and we tried to meet up, but both of them were so busy with their family lives, and so I never ended up meeting either of them.

The other weird thing is that every single one of these married women said that their husbands were okay with them having sex outside of their marriage.

Any of you guys have any experience with married women on SA?

BTW, I bring this up because my SB #2 is a married woman. She's been married for over 20 years. She said that the last time she had sex was over 6 years ago, when she had a previous affair. She too is sex starved. If I wanted to have sex with her for the entire day, she would be totally down for it. There were times when we were at it for several hours, and I wanted to stop or rest, but she would then climb on top of me and she would do all the work. She never wants to stop. I always have to tell her that I have to go to work, just so we can stop having sex. Recently, she told me that we could meet at her home, while her husband was away at work. Man, this sounds like something out of the 1980's. Do people still do this?

Well I think what you found in the married nympho is unusual, but yeh I've come across married women and yes the desire can be passionate. Early in my new city had a lunch date with a girl was married (26). Didn't work out. Turns out she had a six month old baby and suffering post partum depression so that was weird.

Turns out Sarah is married still! She told me she was divorced but later confessed she was still married and just filed. She was the most passionate sex I ever had. I say "was" because I just got the Dear John that she doesn't want to have sex anymore. I think I might have misplayed this a bit because we stopped doing the date part and just straight to hotel. I think her mind started to figure out she was selling sex and it rebelled given her upbringing. I suppose a lot of these girls where it’s their first time can be shortlived anyhow. Think we met five times and it was BBFS mostly so that’s pretty good.

Also my recent fail but get a BJ date was also married. She's only 21 now and got married young. She didn't tell me at first but confessed she is still technically married on date 2.

So both of those are not quite married and cheating. More technically married. But yeah I am surprised there are gals out there who "need it" when lots of us have gals at home that don't want it. LOL.

[Midwestern]

I am a bit surprised that no one has raised this topic, but have any of you guys met married women on SA?

I met one married person on SA while I was in a small city in the states. She was totally into me based on my pic and profile, but I eventually decided to bail on her because I thought it would be too weird to be with a married chick, and I was also worried that her husband would find out and kill me.

However, I later had a great fling with a woman in San Francisco that I met on SA, and eventually she told me that she was married, but she was in a sexless marriage and that she desperately needed to have NSA sex. She said she tried different websites, but eventually decided that the most successful and the most alpha males were on SA. When it came to payment, she never cared about it too much, and just viewed any gift or cash as a nice bonus, but she didn't need the money. I have to say, the sex was incredible. She really was starving for sex. After that, I started to cruise SA to see if I could find other married women, and I did. I found two others that I hit it off with, and we tried to meet up, but both of them were so busy with their family lives, and so I never ended up meeting either of them.

The other weird thing is that every single one of these married women said that their husbands were okay with them having sex outside of their marriage.

Any of you guys have any experience with married women on SA?

BTW, I bring this up because my SB #2 is a married woman. She's been married for over 20 years. She said that the last time she had sex was over 6 years ago, when she had a previous affair. She too is sex starved. If I wanted to have sex with her for the entire day, she would be totally down for it. There were times when we were at it for several hours, and I wanted to stop or rest, but she would then climb on top of me and she would do all the work. She never wants to stop. I always have to tell her that I have to go to work, just so we can stop having sex. Recently, she told me that we could meet at her home, while her husband was away at work. Man, this sounds like something out of the 1980's. Do people still do this?

[Midwestern]

This is one reason I avoid extended text messaging, and get right to the meet & greet as soon as possible. It's the only way to gauge chemistry, and that's essential to me as well,.

For a moment there, I thought I wrote this post. I totally agree with this.

[DramaFree11]

This is one reason I avoid extended text messaging, and get right to the meet & greet as soon as possible. It's the only way to gauge chemistry, and that's essential to me as well, if you're into real sugar dating. A bit of flirtatious text banter ahead of the meet can help set the right mood for the date (as long as you can do it without sounding like a creep), but real girls want to meet, and there's simply no substitute for the short range exchange of pheromones. Incidentally, the hotter the girl, the quickest your close to in-person date needs to be, from my experience -they're just in too much demand for prolonged courtship, no matter how special you think you are. Where I differ is, if the connection isn't there, and sometimes it just isn't, I don't push it. I prefer things to develop organically. But otherwise, I agree that missed connections are best ended with a polite smile and a genuine thank you. Karma will reward you eventually.

Yep, I do the same. Since I am primarily dealing with girls in MTY, I convert them to WhatsApp as soon as possible. The girls that are actually interested with switch, the others have many excuse why they will not, those are usually scammers, 85%. Everyone is on WhatsApp in Mexico now.

[CarloRogue]

A few takeaways:

1. Awesome text vibe does not always lead to awesome in person vibe. Tho I still think its a leading indicator.
2. If u think the chemistry is off it probably is. But that doesnt mean I wont get off. Mixed results here recall I bedded Jesse right after she said I cant have sex with a guy I just met and it was passionate. And I managed to eek out a BJ here but mechanical.
3. Sex without passion just aint that great (for me)
4. When something feels off just say It. U can work thru it.
5. A fail doesnt have to be nasty. It can be a friendly fail.

This is one reason I avoid extended text messaging, and get right to the meet & greet as soon as possible. It's the only way to gauge chemistry, and that's essential to me as well, if you're into real sugar dating. A bit of flirtatious text banter ahead of the meet can help set the right mood for the date (as long as you can do it without sounding like a creep), but real girls want to meet, and there's simply no substitute for the short range exchange of pheromones. Incidentally, the hotter the girl, the quickest your close to in-person date needs to be, from my experience -they're just in too much demand for prolonged courtship, no matter how special you think you are. Where I differ is, if the connection isn't there, and sometimes it just isn't, I don't push it. I prefer things to develop organically. But otherwise, I agree that missed connections are best ended with a polite smile and a genuine thank you. Karma will reward you eventually.