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  1. #5125
    Quote Originally Posted by JonnySutton  [View Original Post]
    Interesting points. I always stay in 5 star hotels (when I'm travelling) and dine at a high end restaurant (at least for the first meet, and then gauge what they want), I dress properly and all that stuff. But not crazy bling or anything. I don't wear a Rolex, I'm more casual. I also treat women with great respect and just be natural. I don't need to show off, I'm a bit understated actually, and always make sure the woman feels safe, comfortable and respected. I don't go in strong with sex talk, I'm not a creep. And I'm also prepared to walk away. Giving the vibe that you're desperate is such a turn off. The strategy works well. I've never had a M&G not lead to an arrangement or intimate date, so on that front a 100% success rate. But as I said only 20% of women I've met via Seeking never asked for money.
    It sounds like your method is working great for you.

    We are all attracted to different women and the ones you are targeting seem to be matching up.

    I know I target women that will match my style. I like the model type / high heels / designer fits / cool sneakers etc but most would think are high maintenance / high end. I am not attracted to girl next door types.

    In reality, most of them can't afford what they have, they saved / they splurged / or were gifted. So when I show up having what they aspire to have, it fucks their mind.

    I also believe in the line by drake "don't tell me you model if you ain't been in Vogue" LOL. So I shut down a lot of their BS.

    If I have to pay no big deal, I know the rules of the game going in.

    You are winning, so good work.

  2. #5124
    Interesting points. I always stay in 5 star hotels (when I'm travelling) and dine at a high end restaurant (at least for the first meet, and then gauge what they want), I dress properly and all that stuff. But not crazy bling or anything. I don't wear a Rolex, I'm more casual. I also treat women with great respect and just be natural. I don't need to show off, I'm a bit understated actually, and always make sure the woman feels safe, comfortable and respected. I don't go in strong with sex talk, I'm not a creep. And I'm also prepared to walk away. Giving the vibe that you're desperate is such a turn off. The strategy works well. I've never had a M&G not lead to an arrangement or intimate date, so on that front a 100% success rate. But as I said only 20% of women I've met via Seeking never asked for money.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    JS, I first saw this in Colombia. FastMD covered it but I want to re-emphasize it. If you stay in a Super 8/ motel 6 type place and dress plainly, the women will ask for money upfront because they are afraid you have nothing. If you show up at a nice hotel, dress sharply, and are at a nice restaurant or bar, you are selling the women the dream that this is what they get if they hang out with you, and they will be much, much less inclined to ask for money.

    I didn't plan for this as much as fell into it. I just keep meeting women in Colombia, and they didn't ask for any money. I would give them something afterwards but after a while, I just tried giving the women nothing. Then I would ask to see them again, and they would show up. Because I felt like they really liked me, in the end, I gave the women who did not ask for money more than the ones who did.

    One guy here and I both saw the same woman. I actually told him that she didn't ask for money but I gave it to her. He said the same happened with him, and he gave her money too. So there are women on SA, not a lot but some, who have learned that there is value in not setting a price.

  3. #5123

    Haha!

    Quote Originally Posted by FastMdSter  [View Original Post]
    They say thick, but they are fat.
    Reminds me of a guy from years ago who used the handle "YaNotThickYaFat" LMAO! I got tired a long time ago of fat chicks misappropriating the descriptor "thick" to describe themselves. I can remember a time when it was "in" for women to describe themselves as being "rubenesque". Same thing. Fat!

  4. #5122
    I agree with you about Seeking in the US. I'm from Europe but travel across the pond quite a bit and everytime I go on Seeking and search US cities I'm left feeling very uninspired. And reading the SLF on Reddit it seems the expectations of SBs in the US are a bit ridiculous. Europe and Asia are the best places I've found (not used Seeking in Latin America since there were alternative aproaches when I went). That being said Seeking hasn't been so great this past year even in Europe after finding absolute gems in 2020/21/22. So this year I've given it a rest and I'm just seeing a girl (too infrequently I admit) that I met in Berlin back in 2020. She's such a sweetie and I've got a bit hooked I guess. When you connect with a girl it's hard to start over and try to find someone else that comes close to what you're experiencing. And now the whole FKK and escort thing leaves me a bit cold even though I've met some absolute stunners via that route (inc a model in Prague who turned out to have been on the cover of Czech Playboy).

    Quote Originally Posted by FastMdSter  [View Original Post]
    So I use SA when traveling ex-us mostly. It is great in that aspect. I find it has deteriorated for the US and continues to get worse.

    I have had success in the US but it's not the same level of hotness I'm looking to bang. If you like black, Latin, fat, curvy, that is really the biggest demographic of the women in the US on seeking imo. Additionally, many more pros, scammers, pic sellers etc then before in the US.

    They say thick, but they are fat.

    I like my women 5'5"+ Caucasian, mixed light skin, thin, fit, active, with good teeth, 8+ on scale and no chemical demons. I'm finding that group mostly ex-US.

    I don't like to have anyone to close to my home area. I had one about 1 month ago against my better judgement, a 23 yo nursing student who was hottie but just had so much drama going on, but she was off tinder.

    In the US, I use RAYA, Tinder, bumble, SA in that order.

    Ex-US, I use RAYA, Tinder, and SA in that order.

    I have a SO in Montreal that I found on SA a little over a year ago who is the perfect woman imo, but she will be turning 28 next month and I know she wants to be wifey and has been dropping hints and I'm not ready for that again. So I'm ratcheting up now.

    The dollar is still really strong, take advantage.

  5. #5121
    Quote Originally Posted by JonnySutton  [View Original Post]
    Great report. So how old are you since you said none of the girls you met asked for donations. I've experienced that 20% of the time (once in Berlin), but I'm over 50 (though pretty fit and have been told I'm very good looking) so I'm not going to attract many under 30's without some financial incentives.
    JS, I first saw this in Colombia. FastMD covered it but I want to re-emphasize it. If you stay in a Super 8/ motel 6 type place and dress plainly, the women will ask for money upfront because they are afraid you have nothing. If you show up at a nice hotel, dress sharply, and are at a nice restaurant or bar, you are selling the women the dream that this is what they get if they hang out with you, and they will be much, much less inclined to ask for money.

    I didn't plan for this as much as fell into it. I just keep meeting women in Colombia, and they didn't ask for any money. I would give them something afterwards but after a while, I just tried giving the women nothing. Then I would ask to see them again, and they would show up. Because I felt like they really liked me, in the end, I gave the women who did not ask for money more than the ones who did.

    One guy here and I both saw the same woman. I actually told him that she didn't ask for money but I gave it to her. He said the same happened with him, and he gave her money too. So there are women on SA, not a lot but some, who have learned that there is value in not setting a price.

  6. #5120
    Quote Originally Posted by GoingDumb  [View Original Post]
    I went out with a girl last weekend for the first time. Things went well, ended up at my place but didn't have sex because she was waiting for a hsv 2 lab result and wanted to be safe. She didn't go into details and I was glad she told me. We got along well so I saw her again this weekend. I didn't want to bring up the lab over text but when it came up we were already making out. She hadn't gotten the result yet but felt better and left it up to me. I may have made a big mistake and went for it using a rubber. Sex was great, she stayed over but my issue is I made plans with a different girl this week who I've seen before. Should I be safe and cancel? Or meet her for dinner and let her know I want to wait a little?
    https://www.ucsfhealth.org/medical-t...lex-antibodies#text=About%2070%25%20 of%20 adults%20 have, once%20 you%20 have%20 been%20 infected.

    About 70% of adults have been infected by HSV-1 and have antibodies against the virus. About 20 to 50% of adults will have antibodies against the HSV-2 virus, which causes genital herpes.

  7. #5119

    Paying for Seeking

    Just a friendly note because I found this information much to hard to find. If you are looking to pay for Seeking with a burner card the only ones I have found to work are those that are from Black Hawk. You look on the back and make sure that is listed as the issuer. To be safe go pull an address from the same zip code you bought it with a name attached to that address. That seems to work pretty reliably.

    For those that care you can sign up on the "monthly repeat payment" price with the burner card and pay a single month (or more if you like).

    I am about to head off in another extended trip through El Salvador and Nicaragua. I have posted about my Nicaragua experience here before. It will be the first time using it in El Salvador. In theory I have a very nice lady excited to come spend a day or two with me at the beach and a back up or two I am keeping warm.

    Nicaragua is looking promising since I lost my original SB there to Europe. But we shall see.

  8. #5118
    Quote Originally Posted by GoingDumb  [View Original Post]
    Do most of you travel for work? I know steve has regulars in the US but I'm curious if anyone has a regular arrangement at home vs mainly using it when traveling.
    So I use SA when traveling ex-us mostly. It is great in that aspect. I find it has deteriorated for the US and continues to get worse.

    I have had success in the US but it's not the same level of hotness I'm looking to bang. If you like black, Latin, fat, curvy, that is really the biggest demographic of the women in the US on seeking imo. Additionally, many more pros, scammers, pic sellers etc then before in the US.

    They say thick, but they are fat.

    I like my women 5'5"+ Caucasian, mixed light skin, thin, fit, active, with good teeth, 8+ on scale and no chemical demons. I'm finding that group mostly ex-US.

    I don't like to have anyone to close to my home area. I had one about 1 month ago against my better judgement, a 23 yo nursing student who was hottie but just had so much drama going on, but she was off tinder.

    In the US, I use RAYA, Tinder, bumble, SA in that order.

    Ex-US, I use RAYA, Tinder, and SA in that order.

    I have a SO in Montreal that I found on SA a little over a year ago who is the perfect woman imo, but she will be turning 28 next month and I know she wants to be wifey and has been dropping hints and I'm not ready for that again. So I'm ratcheting up now.

    The dollar is still really strong, take advantage.

  9. #5117
    Quote Originally Posted by GoingDumb  [View Original Post]
    Do most of you travel for work? I know steve has regulars in the US but I'm curious if anyone has a regular arrangement at home vs mainly using it when traveling.
    Almost exclusively when traveling. Because married and that's playing with fire. Even when I'm traveling I am afraid some business connection is also going to be in the other country and notice me with some 19 year old dolled up girl and the jig will be up. But so far so good.

  10. #5116

    Secret Benefits

    Hi fellow members.

    I tried to create a new Thread about the Secret Benefits site / app, for some reason I can't create one even though I'm a paying member and have a subscription. If anyone can create it, please do.

    Anyway, I would like to know your experience about this Secret Benefits site, I usually use seeking arr. And its been a good experience.

    But last week I susbcribed to Secret Benefits and I got like 30-40 messages in about 3 days, lots of hotties PMing me and stuff. Any of you have any expericiences meeting chicks of this app? Thanks.

  11. #5115
    Quote Originally Posted by Gfefan  [View Original Post]
    SA is trying to get me to sign up. Offering a 20% discount.

    I am tired of US women and not biting the bait. Leveraging existing phone numbers and hoping one or two will fall in bed.

    If anyone would like the code, pm me. Happy to share (doesn't look like it is a code tied to my account. No Harm trying).
    I think SA sends you the discount promo right after your subscription expires. I got that discout too, its 25%, I got the email 3 times this weeks, I haven't re subscribed because I'm already fking a few sugar babies right now, but as soon as I get bored ot them, ill re sign and find some new ones.

  12. #5114

    Progression

    Quote Originally Posted by GoingDumb  [View Original Post]
    Do most of you travel for work? I know steve has regulars in the US but I'm curious if anyone has a regular arrangement at home vs mainly using it when traveling.
    For me it was a progression. At first I only ever did the hookers and club scene and always abroad. Then COVID was the mother of invention and I found SA for domestic trips because all international was shut down. But still only during travel for first year. Then decided to try discreetly at home. Worked well. Amped that up quite a bit to where I had a regular girl pretty much. But still maybe once or twice a month. Also no one quite satisfactory in all respects. Then of course Shayla the goddess and the slippery slope to full on mistress.

    It all started with a handjob in Tokyo 20+ years ago. And here we are in mistress land! It's a slippery slope!

  13. #5113
    Quote Originally Posted by FastMdSter  [View Original Post]
    I turned 49 yesterday, but have been told I don't look more than 35. Could be the shaved head and beard, but my beard is almost 70% gray.

    I am very fit though and really into fashion. I've been told I'm very handsome, but we all have.

    However, I think a lot has to do with the vibe / experience they get on the pre-game date. I don't think about cost when it comes to dinners / drinks / bottles etc because if I was alone I would pay for the top end anyway for myself, so it's just an extra I have to pay.

    Additionally, like many of you I have been traveling for 20 years and tend to stay and visit many of the same places so have developed relationships that get me good tables / seats etc. So what I believe happens is that they get this vision in their mind that this is what it's going to be like for them through out this relationship and they want that life. It's an illusion that they fall into. I will tell you, it leads to a lot of clingers though.
    Do most of you travel for work? I know steve has regulars in the US but I'm curious if anyone has a regular arrangement at home vs mainly using it when traveling.

  14. #5112
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    Did you say WITH rubber? I think the chances of catching anything with a rubber are very small.
    Yeah with rubber.

  15. #5111

    SA discount

    SA is trying to get me to sign up. Offering a 20% discount.

    I am tired of US women and not biting the bait. Leveraging existing phone numbers and hoping one or two will fall in bed.

    If anyone would like the code, pm me. Happy to share (doesn't look like it is a code tied to my account. No Harm trying).

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