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  1. #2574

    Numbers are believable

    I've been asked outright for 1 k twice. Paid it once and still considering it for the other. As you clearly state, it's about expectations. Paying that at a $60 AMP makes no sense but the goal and circumstances are different. Paying that to get a no kidding GFE where she now knows my money is where my mouth is and there's no BS; I've now moved up in her priority queue (hopefully) which is what I want over time (hopefully if she's not a starfish or can't hold a conversation with me).

    The more I've done SA the more I look at it like a poker game. You need to make the best decisions you can with bits and pieces of info that come in all different forms (words, actions, etc). When I'm playing poker I need to ante to be in the game. I may lose 10 antes before I have a hand I want to play. Price of doing business. If I need to blow 1 k to find out she's a dud that's fine because if she's not a dud I may be happier than a pig in shit that I'm getting her so "cheap" you just don't know. To be clear, we're way past talking about blowing your load in some hot girl. We're taking about, all things being equal, one might actually consider marrying because they literally check every box.

    I easily believe 5 k. My first arrangement had a guy with a several thousand person company overseas. He'd write her a check for 5 k every month. It happens. It's the holy grail for some girls but fortunately for the masses (of the rest of us guys) those guys are few and far between.

    Don't ever forget, they are there to cover expenses. Rent. X, college. Why, living expenses. Z, income from her job. A, shortfall. Be (that's where you come in). In a large expensive coastal city like mine 3-5 k a month sounds like a pretty honest answer. 10 k would be a little nuts. BTW there's nothing that says you need to be her only source. As long as you're not the jealous type accept you're one of a couple other guys and reserve yourself to the line. If she's that good then her part of the time is still probably better than her none of the time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    So I've been low key trying to hook up a date tonight but I am getting pros or we can't work timing or whatever. I'm now going to go on a SA mission. I'm going to hit it hard, find a girl, chat her up and meetup tonight. Wish me luck!

    Ps in the WTF dept: Aftet wonderful chats and plans to meetup, Ive had one girl ask $1000 ppm and another $5000/mo allowance. I mean WTF really?

  2. #2573
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    Ps in the WTF dept: Aftet wonderful chats and plans to meetup, Ive had one girl ask $1000 ppm and another $5000/mo allowance. I mean WTF really?
    One girl did start with 1000 but came down a bit and she was the best SB I ever had Still talk to her every week and if I am in her town we continue. I moved states so am far away now.

  3. #2572

    On a Mission

    So I've been low key trying to hook up a date tonight but I am getting pros or we can't work timing or whatever. I'm now going to go on a SA mission. I'm going to hit it hard, find a girl, chat her up and meetup tonight. Wish me luck!

    Ps in the WTF dept: Aftet wonderful chats and plans to meetup, I’ve had one girl ask $1000 ppm and another $5000/mo allowance. I mean WTF really?

  4. #2571

    Expectations are Key

    Quote Originally Posted by EverythingBlue  [View Original Post]
    Damn dude, great insights here. I enjoyed reading this a lot. I joined the site and spent a lot of time on it for the 2 months I was able to keep a standard premium subscription active before getting banned. I made some mistakes but that's water under the bridge now. Anyhow, I spent significant time texting with

    She messaged when she arrived home to wish me good night, and we spent about 5 hours together so I have no complaints. But, was the time invested prior worth the experience? I don't know. I've since fucked another 7 girls here, and honestly I'm not sure I'll remember this experience more than the others, but maybe I just had a bad date. The cost was only about 2 hours worth with a pro here in Montreal, and she looked about a solid 8.

    Anyhow, if I was still on the site maybe I would try my luck again, but I'm not sure the juice is worth the squeeze, at least I can't say that yet. Or maybe I just fuck too many pros and can't appreciate a normal girl because of it LOL.
    Great report. Thanks for the view from Montreal. I think so much of the world is about expectations. Like if you book a pro and you show and she says let's have dinner first. You would be like WTF. I'm here to fuck. And the opposite is true also. You look on SA for something more authentic. So even those this had all the elements it didn't meet your expectation for a "real girl". And that's where it's off because it sounds pretty good otherwise!

    I totally get this. Kayla has become a bit more of a homebody. She presented as a party girl (went to strip club and sex club together) but now all our dates are Netflix and chill (and still amazing bareback sex) so I am casually looking around for someone more fun on the town and it's def a slog. And I get girls who are like "let's skip dinner and just go to your hotel" and it's so funny because I am not so interested. She's saying "I just want to have sex for money" and my SA brain is saying don't settle for that. So I keep working SA and hope to turn up the real deal. But have these pros in back pocket.

    And of course even tho Kayla has become more wifey we are super comfortable (too comfortable?) and sex remains mind blowing so I am careful not to accidentally kill this off.

    Anyhow point is it's all in what you expect. Expect a true SA girlfriend and get a pro. disappointed. Expect to show up and fuck and get a dinner invite. Disappointed. True in all aspects of life.

  5. #2570
    Nah, I was thinking you were banging them in the shop before opening hours. I'm a little less impressed knowing they have their own place Cheers bud.

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwestern  [View Original Post]
    In China, from what I understand, the girls are no longer allowed to live in the MPs. But almost all of them (maybe about 80-90 percent) live in a dorm that is provided by the MP. Rent is like $150 per month. Obviously, I cannot visit them at the dorm. However, some of gals hate living in those dorms, and will either find a roommate and rent a place, or live by themselves in a tiny studio apartment. The kinds of MP gals that rent on their own usually have a little bit too much pride to live in the dorm. These girls that have their own place still want to enjoy life a little bit, by going out with their friends, or having out-of-town friends visit them. They also take a day off from work every week or so. The ones that live in the dorms are strictly about making a living, and so they do almost nothing but work and sleep every day. Whenever I meet an MP gal that I like, I get their WeChat contact. If you really want to know more, then let me know.

  6. #2569
    Quote Originally Posted by FilthyBeaver  [View Original Post]
    At their home? Don't they live there (at least the AMPS)? That's a whole new level of game for me. Congrats. If you need a padawan I'm willing to polish your lightsaber in exchange for training in that side of the force.
    In China, from what I understand, the girls are no longer allowed to live in the MPs. But almost all of them (maybe about 80-90 percent) live in a dorm that is provided by the MP. Rent is like $150 per month. Obviously, I cannot visit them at the dorm. However, some of gals hate living in those dorms, and will either find a roommate and rent a place, or live by themselves in a tiny studio apartment. The kinds of MP gals that rent on their own usually have a little bit too much pride to live in the dorm. These girls that have their own place still want to enjoy life a little bit, by going out with their friends, or having out-of-town friends visit them. They also take a day off from work every week or so. The ones that live in the dorms are strictly about making a living, and so they do almost nothing but work and sleep every day. Whenever I meet an MP gal that I like, I get their WeChat contact. If you really want to know more, then let me know.

  7. #2568

    Wow, my thoughts EXACTLY

    YES! That is exactly how I feel about some of the MP gals that I hooked up with in Shanghai. There is this one gal that I have known for several years now. We can barely say a few sentences to each other. And yet, she has now traveled with me to Beijing (or met me there) on over a half dozen occasions, and we just genuinely like each other. The day that I met her, if I had arrived 10 minutes later, then we probably never would have had met and had our great relationship. Yeah, yeah, maybe the other gal that I would have met that day would have been great as well. But who knows? But overall, I too feel pretty lucky with some of the MP gals that I have met over the years, and can barely have a conversation with. In fact, I saw an MP gal yesterday morning before her shift. I have known this gal for several years too. We have known each other for so long, that we now bareback. The sex is passionate, and she often orgasms. We can connect so well, but we can barely communicate. And so, every once in a while, I just go to new MPs, hoping to find the next great GF, but 9 out of 10 times, it is a failure. Oh well. I know that if I want more than just a session with a pro, then I will have to pay some dues.

    Quote Originally Posted by FilthyBeaver  [View Original Post]
    My friend, I can't explain it either. I'm talking about a girl in an MP (proper Asian, in Asia, not AMP with imported product) who will come in on her day off to see you. Or the girl who spent the whole day me after she told me she'd be fired (she inspired me to start learning her language BTW). Or the girl who desperately tries to have a conversation with me before or after the act even though she knows damn well I don't speak hers and she speaks even less of mine. They like what they l like when they like it. Had I been a day later or an hour earlier before some a-hole customer who the hell knows what the result would have been but thank God the stars aligned the way they did. I will never forget any of those girls. Total magic.

  8. #2567

    If I knew the answer to that I'd know the answer to life itself

    My friend, I can't explain it either. I'm talking about a girl in an MP (proper Asian, in Asia, not AMP with imported product) who will come in on her day off to see you. Or the girl who spent the whole day me after she told me she'd be fired (she inspired me to start learning her language BTW). Or the girl who desperately tries to have a conversation with me before or after the act even though she knows damn well I don't speak hers and she speaks even less of mine. They like what they l like when they like it. Had I been a day later or an hour earlier before some a-hole customer who the hell knows what the result would have been but thank God the stars aligned the way they did. I will never forget any of those girls. Total magic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwestern  [View Original Post]
    I agree. But I cannot put a finger on why this is the case. Is it because we cannot argue, or is it because they are uninteresting out of bed, or is it because of something else?

  9. #2566

    Yep totally know what you mean

    Quote Originally Posted by FilthyBeaver  [View Original Post]

    Interestingly enough, in my considerable mongering life, the best sex I've ever had was with girls that didn't speak my language and I did not or barely spoke theirs.
    I agree. But I cannot put a finger on why this is the case. Is it because we cannot argue, or is it because they are uninteresting out of bed, or is it because of something else?

  10. #2565

    Wow

    At their home? Don't they live there (at least the AMPS)? That's a whole new level of game for me. Congrats. If you need a padawan I'm willing to polish your lightsaber in exchange for training in that side of the force.

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwestern  [View Original Post]
    These days, I am just visiting MP gals (at their homes) before their shift starts. Otherwise, I have not been that active. It's cold where I live. Everyone is bundled up. Without seeing some flesh, I have lost my horniness. I need the skirts to come back. LOL.

  11. #2564

    Way more info needed

    What's "reasonable" to you for a flight? Time / distance, cost? Skinny under 25 girls are all over the planet so then you need to ask yourself what you like. White, black, Latina. Latinas tend to plump up fast so as a numbers guy I'd say that wouldn't be my first choice. If it were me I'd pick a large wealthy city in a first world country for the best chance of getting what I want from my post a few back. We are on the SA board so if you want a legit SB that's the way AFAIK. If you just want to bang a hot young girl and forget her name walking back to your car, pick a place where prostitution is legal or tolerated e. G. Deutschland.

    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowJ  [View Original Post]
    I've been on SA for about a year and I must say, it has changed my life. I'm banging higher quantity and quality than I have at any other point in my adult life. I've been doing almost monthly trips to Tijuana and to Bogota. In a workweek, I try to bang 2-3 chicks per day and I've been doing a healthy mix of new girls and repeats with favorites. I've got my script down so I am upfront that I'm looking for "friends with benefits" and that I expect our relations to be natural. That selects out a decent percentage of girls but I've built a pretty extensive database of girls who are down.

    That said, I'd like to ask for some guidance. I'd like to try another city (within a reasonable flight from the east coast of the US). I LOVE skinny girls (under 100 lbs) under 25 years old. What is a good, fertile place for me to hit?

  12. #2563

    Little desire these days

    These days, I am just visiting MP gals (at their homes) before their shift starts. Otherwise, I have not been that active. It's cold where I live. Everyone is bundled up. Without seeing some flesh, I have lost my horniness. I need the skirts to come back. LOL.

  13. #2562

    Want a gem? Then you need to be a gem too.

    For the USA market, I admit that it was tough finding gems. But to get one, you have to be a gem too. Luckily, it only requires three things IMHO.

    First, you cannot be physically hideous.

    Second, you cannot be an asshole (and on a related note, you do not want to do super bizarre weird sh! T in bed).

    Third, you are in it for more than the sex. Like, you will actually hang out with her.

    If you just want great sex with a hottie, then do not waste you time on SA in the USA. Instead, just go with a pro.

  14. #2561
    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowJ  [View Original Post]

    That said, I'd like to ask for some guidance. I'd like to try another city (within a reasonable flight from the east coast of the US). I LOVE skinny girls (under 100 lbs) under 25 years old. What is a good, fertile place for me to hit?
    Short flight from the East Coast of the USA? You might try either the. Are. Or Panama. I have a friend that loves to monger, and he loves both of these places. But that is just one person's opinion. Maybe check out their forums to get a feel for the places.

  15. #2560

    My SA experience

    I've been on SA for about a year and I must say, it has changed my life. I'm banging higher quantity and quality than I have at any other point in my adult life. I've been doing almost monthly trips to Tijuana and to Bogota. In a workweek, I try to bang 2-3 chicks per day and I've been doing a healthy mix of new girls and repeats with favorites. I've got my script down so I am upfront that I'm looking for "friends with benefits" and that I expect our relations to be natural. That selects out a decent percentage of girls but I've built a pretty extensive database of girls who are down.

    That said, I'd like to ask for some guidance. I'd like to try another city (within a reasonable flight from the east coast of the US). I LOVE skinny girls (under 100 lbs) under 25 years old. What is a good, fertile place for me to hit?

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