Seeking Arrangements

[Midwestern]

One SB messaged me, "If I send you nudes will you send me money?

I hope that you will reply, "I can see nudes for free on the internet. " Does she know what the purpose of SA is? There are other sites for what she wants to do. Happy hunting, bro. Looking forward to reading your juicy reports of your successes.

[Pessimist]

I took a one month crash course in Mandarin, so I have a vocabulary of about 500 highly-used words. I can mix and match them well enough to make small talk. That's it, but it's enough. My conversations with them are never more than a few sentences, and it mostly just involves a transaction for something, like groceries, or just to exchange a friendly Hello, etc. After seeing them regularly for about a few weeks, I can tell who sort of likes me, because they will smile when they see me. So, I would eventually just ask for their WeChat. It's not the same thing as asking for a phone number. In China, people exchange WeChats all the time. So, most of the time, they will think nothing of it. But some ask why I want their WeChat, and I simply reply that I like them. Once I have their WeChat, we can have a deeper convo, because WeChat has text translate, but I've never had a deep convo with any of them. It's all bland shit, like, "how are you?" or "did you eat lunch?" or some basic shit like that. After a week of chatting, I move it to flirting. And then after a week of flirting, and I ramp up my game and see where it goes from there..

Wow, so cool. Good for you, my friend. Best of luck with that young hot chick! I'm sure it will work out.

[Midwestern]

How do you converse w / these women, given you speak no Mandarin as you said and most likely they don't speak English, not being in the higher strata and all? Text translate?

Why are more of your conquests in the MILF type? Is it because the migrant labor are more in the MILF category? Did you try to hit upon hotter chicks in the barristas, higher end restaurants and other such places?

I took a one month crash course in Mandarin, so I have a vocabulary of about 500 highly-used words. I can mix and match them well enough to make small talk. That's it, but it's enough. My conversations with them are never more than a few sentences, and it mostly just involves a transaction for something, like groceries, or just to exchange a friendly Hello, etc. After seeing them regularly for about a few weeks, I can tell who sort of likes me, because they will smile when they see me. So, I would eventually just ask for their WeChat. It's not the same thing as asking for a phone number. In China, people exchange WeChats all the time. So, most of the time, they will think nothing of it. But some ask why I want their WeChat, and I simply reply that I like them. Once I have their WeChat, we can have a deeper convo, because WeChat has text translate, but I've never had a deep convo with any of them. It's all bland shit, like, "how are you?" or "did you eat lunch?" or some basic shit like that. After a week of chatting, I move it to flirting. And then after a week of flirting, and I ramp up my game and see where it goes from there.

I should say that most of my successes have been with milfs, but they are not my targets per se. I hit on almost everyone. However, the younger ones are more coy. I mentioned that I am working on a couple of prospects right now, but now that I think of it, I am actually working on at least a half dozen prospects. For example, there's a young very hot girl that works at a convenience store. I get coffee there. I have no idea what she says to me, and so it makes her giggle. I got her WeChat, under the guise that it would help with our future transactions. But I started flirting with her on WeChat. After a couple of weeks, I just asked her if we could meet for sex. She said, "let's get to know each other first. " That was about 2 weeks ago. Last night, I asked her again, and she said, "haha" and then she said, "we can, but let's get to know each other first. " I have no idea how we can know each other first. Does she mean to date? But with older women, they are just shocked that I would be interested in them. They probably have not gotten a man's attention in years. So, they are much easier to seal the deal with. Like I mentioned before, I have a couple a milfs already yqueued up, ready to meet for sex, but given the strictness at hotels these days, I am nervous about moving forward with it for now. But in general, I always find that average looking milfs are so horny in the sack anyway, so I am happy if all I can get are milfs.

At SonicBoom:

I did not invent this MO. I said that I discovered it, but that was just for myself. A lot of mongers have done this in China. When I first moved to China, there was a monger in the Beijing forum that always bragged about banging women for free, and these women were almost all minimum wage employees from other cities, like the gals that I am hitting on. I just didn't realize how easy it was until recently.

I am sure this can be done in other cities that have migrant workers. My friend in Singapore slept with a lot of Filipina maids during their days off. They were not pretty, and they were old. But he said they were horny and free. It is only now that I understand the wisdom of his ways, LOL.

But like I said before, most of the time, when I tell these girls that I like them or want to have sex with them, it goes nowhere. Like I said before, only about 1 out of 4 give me a positive reaction to my flirting, but I consider that a good percentage. I also have become narrower in my targeting. For example, I now realize that I cannot hit on girls that are close by. For example, I hit on a girl that works at my favorite fruit store. She didn't take to it well. And now I can't go there because it's a little awkward, because everyone there gives me the cold shoulder, probably because she told them. Unfortunately, a MILF that works at the front desk of my apartment complex is always giving me a big smile and fuck me eyes. She's thin and tall, and pretty attractive. Damn, I wish I can get with her, but given that she works in my building, that's too close. Oh well.

[Wupoer]

I think Sugar Baby season is in full bloom now with college / university exams all done. I'm getting Favorited 3 x more often now than before. Big increase starting last week.

One SB messaged me, "If I send you nudes will you send me money?

[SonicBoom1]

A few years ago, I overheard my house keeper (she's from another town) telling her friend on the phone that she had a local boyfriend, even though she was married with a husband and kids back home. This made me realize that many of these migrant workers must be hungry for attention and affection. So, I started hitting on them, such as waitresses, department store attendants, janitors, security guards, etc. They are generally quite receptive! They are even surprised that a foreigner would be interested in them. I guess it's not that surprising, as they probably have really low self esteem.
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Wow, that is an amazing tactic, and some serious out-of-box thinking. I'm impressed!

[Pessimist]

I am an expat in Shanghai. China only has a few first tier cities, such as Shanghai and Beijing. Over a hundred million Chinese people migrate from their shitty rural hometowns to work in Shanghai or Beijing or Shenzhen or Guangzhou. Most married couples work separately, especially given the fact that one of them might have a decent job at home or is needed at home.

A few years ago, I overheard my house keeper (she's from another town) telling her friend on the phone that she had a local boyfriend, even though she was married with a husband and kids back home. This made me realize that many of these migrant workers must be hungry for attention and affection. So, I started hitting on them, such as waitresses, department store attendants, janitors, security guards, etc. They are generally quite receptive! They are even surprised that a foreigner would be interested in them. I guess it's not that surprising, as they probably have really low self esteem.

I've had a couple of affairs with them, and it's free as long as you have a place to meet. These gals aren't lookers of course. And we are talking about gals in their 30's and 40's. But they are horny as hell. I am currently working on a few right now. One already says she likes me. She has a husband and 3 kids back home. She actually gave me a peck on the cheek the last time I saw her. Another says she likes me too, but she is a little freaked out because she's never had a foreigner like her before..

Great post, MW! Well done, mate. No, you are much on topic. Thank you, enjoyed reading it.

How do you converse w / these women, given you speak no Mandarin as you said and most likely they don't speak English, not being in the higher strata and all? Text translate?

Why are more of your conquests in the MILF type? Is it because the migrant labor are more in the MILF category? Did you try to hit upon hotter chicks in the barristas, higher end restaurants and other such places?

[Midwestern]

So are you worried you might get one of these milfs pregnant though? Or are you snipped?.

I'm mid 50's, so I'm either too old to cum easily or I have it under control. I don't know which it is. But to make sure I don't cum accidentally, I'll usually drink a half a can of beer before I do the deed. The alcohol is enough to numb my dick. I use Viagra to make sure it's hard. With this combo, I almost never cum, which is fine with me. I prefer fucking, not cumming.

[Wupoer]

That's hot. When you originally wrote "migrant worker", I thought you were talking about Mexicans in the United States! That changes the context a lot! So are you worried you might get one of these milfs pregnant though? Or are you snipped? Feel free to PM if you got more details. I want to retire in Asia and do this and more.

I am an expat in Shanghai. China only has a few first tier cities, such as Shanghai and Beijing. Over a hundred million Chinese people migrate from their shitty rural hometowns to work in Shanghai or Beijing or Shenzhen or Guangzhou. Most married couples work separately, especially given the fact that one of them might have a decent job at home or is needed at home.

A few years ago, I overheard my house keeper (she's from another town) telling her friend on the phone that she had a local boyfriend, even though she was married with a husband and kids back home. This made me realize that many of these migrant workers must be hungry for attention and affection. So, I started hitting on them, such as waitresses, department store attendants, janitors, security guards, etc. They are generally quite receptive! They are even surprised that a foreigner would be interested in them. I guess it's not that surprising, as they probably have really low self esteem.

I've had a couple of affairs with them, and it's free as long as you have a place to meet. These gals aren't lookers of course. And we are talking about gals in their 30's and 40's. But they are horny as hell. I am currently working on a few right now. One already says she likes me. She has a husband and 3 kids back home. She actually gave me a peck on the cheek the last time I saw her. Another says she likes me too, but she is a little freaked out because she's never had a foreigner like her before.

My MO usually goes like this. There are women that I see almost every day, such as the security guards at the subway station, or the store assistant that works at the fruit store, or the waitress of the restaurant that I eat at a few times per week. I just smile at them. Or exchange an extended greeting. In China, we text each other using WeChat. Once I am familiar with someone, I will just ask for their WeChat. It's no big deal to anyone. And so, I will start texting them. I can't speak Chinese for shit, but WeChat has a translation function. Anyway, I just text bland shit, like "where are you from?" or "it is so hot today" and etc. Then, after a few weeks of this, I will just text them to say that I like them. They are always astonished. And then I start flirting with them.

Here's a story from last year. I was texting with someone for a few months. And then I told her that I liked her. She just laughed it off. But I kept telling her that I liked her. The next time I saw her, we chatted, and then I said I had to run, but before I did, I gave her a quick friendly hug. That night, I told her again that I liked her. And to my surprise, she said she liked me too. The next time I saw her, we kissed when no one was looking. That night, I said I liked her. She again said she liked me too. I said "what should we do?" She replied, "maybe meet a a hotel?" BAM!! Just like that. I couldn't believe it. Anyway, over the course of the next 6 months, we met up for about once per week. The sex was so passionate. Basically, I would just stick it in, and we would make out for a couple of hours. She's in her mid-40's, been married for OVER 20 years, and didn't have sex in 6 years. Right now, she's stuck in her hometown, but I am hoping she will return this summer.

Once I discovered this source of sex, I started collecting WeChats from migrant workers like crazy. I basically repeat what I did above. I am now even more brazen sometimes. I just text them and ask if we can meet for sex. It's amazing how often the women are interested. I would say 1 out 4 are interested. Like I said above, they are bored and lonely and hungry for attention and affection, and they are super flattered by my interest, especially because a lot of them probably have low self esteem. They probably get yelled at every day by their bosses. I bet my MO would work in a lot of places that have migrant workers. I know that in Singapore, the Filipino maids are often looking for hookups, just to give another example city.

My only problem right now is that I have a few women that are in play, but I don't have a place to meet them for the rendezvous, especially given how strict the hotels and apartment complexes are, due to COVID.

Anyway, hope this helps. And to everyone else, sorry to go off topic.

[PilotPaul]

I am an expat in Shanghai. China only has a few first tier cities, such as Shanghai and Beijing. Over a hundred million Chinese people migrate from their shitty rural hometowns to work in Shanghai or Beijing or Shenzhen or Guangzhou. Most married couples work separately, especially given the fact that one of them might have a decent job at home or is needed at home.

This is similar with filipna foreign workers. I us ea similar strategy but I like ot keep distance from my regular haunts. Even here in my home town I will not flirt with waitresses on my regular haunts and instead find new haunts based on this objective.

[Midwestern]

Would you share some of the stories? I'm curious to see how this has been working for you.

I am an expat in Shanghai. China only has a few first tier cities, such as Shanghai and Beijing. Over a hundred million Chinese people migrate from their shitty rural hometowns to work in Shanghai or Beijing or Shenzhen or Guangzhou. Most married couples work separately, especially given the fact that one of them might have a decent job at home or is needed at home.

A few years ago, I overheard my house keeper (she's from another town) telling her friend on the phone that she had a local boyfriend, even though she was married with a husband and kids back home. This made me realize that many of these migrant workers must be hungry for attention and affection. So, I started hitting on them, such as waitresses, department store attendants, janitors, security guards, etc. They are generally quite receptive! They are even surprised that a foreigner would be interested in them. I guess it's not that surprising, as they probably have really low self esteem.

I've had a couple of affairs with them, and it's free as long as you have a place to meet. These gals aren't lookers of course. And we are talking about gals in their 30's and 40's. But they are horny as hell. I am currently working on a few right now. One already says she likes me. She has a husband and 3 kids back home. She actually gave me a peck on the cheek the last time I saw her. Another says she likes me too, but she is a little freaked out because she's never had a foreigner like her before.

My MO usually goes like this. There are women that I see almost every day, such as the security guards at the subway station, or the store assistant that works at the fruit store, or the waitress of the restaurant that I eat at a few times per week. I just smile at them. Or exchange an extended greeting. In China, we text each other using WeChat. Once I am familiar with someone, I will just ask for their WeChat. It's no big deal to anyone. And so, I will start texting them. I can't speak Chinese for shit, but WeChat has a translation function. Anyway, I just text bland shit, like "where are you from?" or "it is so hot today" and etc. Then, after a few weeks of this, I will just text them to say that I like them. They are always astonished. And then I start flirting with them.

Here's a story from last year. I was texting with someone for a few months. And then I told her that I liked her. She just laughed it off. But I kept telling her that I liked her. The next time I saw her, we chatted, and then I said I had to run, but before I did, I gave her a quick friendly hug. That night, I told her again that I liked her. And to my surprise, she said she liked me too. The next time I saw her, we kissed when no one was looking. That night, I said I liked her. She again said she liked me too. I said "what should we do?" She replied, "maybe meet a a hotel?" BAM!! Just like that. I couldn't believe it. Anyway, over the course of the next 6 months, we met up for about once per week. The sex was so passionate. Basically, I would just stick it in, and we would make out for a couple of hours. She's in her mid-40's, been married for OVER 20 years, and didn't have sex in 6 years. Right now, she's stuck in her hometown, but I am hoping she will return this summer.

Once I discovered this source of sex, I started collecting WeChats from migrant workers like crazy. I basically repeat what I did above. I am now even more brazen sometimes. I just text them and ask if we can meet for sex. It's amazing how often the women are interested. I would say 1 out 4 are interested. Like I said above, they are bored and lonely and hungry for attention and affection, and they are super flattered by my interest, especially because a lot of them probably have low self esteem. They probably get yelled at every day by their bosses. I bet my MO would work in a lot of places that have migrant workers. I know that in Singapore, the Filipino maids are often looking for hookups, just to give another example city.

My only problem right now is that I have a few women that are in play, but I don't have a place to meet them for the rendezvous, especially given how strict the hotels and apartment complexes are, due to COVID.

Anyway, hope this helps. And to everyone else, sorry to go off topic.

[Midwestern]

Hi guys. I've been thinking about trying out SA for a few years now but was mongering on trips to Cuba and Columbia and day trips to Tijuana and the Hong Kong Club (I live very close to Mexico). I am going to register and take a look at the girls now that those activities have been shut down. I have read most of this forum. How important is it to set up a separate email account? I am single and self employed so not concerned with keeping my ID secret.

For a site like SA, you should definitely use an anonymous email account. Think about the Ashley Madison fiasco. Some hacker uncovered tens of thousands (or was it milllions?) of registered users' email accounts, and threatened to make them all public. Remember that?

Recently, there's this scam: https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/blog/20...aten-blackmail.

I was ALSO a target of the above scam. I got an email to my anonymous email account saying that my password is XYZ (which was correct!) and they said they know that I am a registered user of a sex site. Unless I gave them bitcoins, they were going to send an email to all of my contacts to let them know about my indiscretions.

So, any time you do something that you don't want people to know about, use an anonymous email and a unique password for it.

[Midwestern]

I felt like I was an asshole but in my heart, I knew I was not. What I learned was that I was normal and society was crazy.


What you are really saying MS is that you would like to engage in bareback sex but are afraid to do so. I get it. If you educate yourself and get to the bottom of things yourself, you probably won't be. Maybe you feel guilt with seeing working girls. I don't. It is normal. This society is the one that is fucked up.

This is one of the best written screeds on this forum that I've ever read. I usually skim long posts, but I read every single word of yours. So, you bareback pros all the time? Because of you, I may go back to barebacking that pro that I used to bareback regularly.

[Big Boss Man]

Holly Golightly broke two dates with me this week. She told me that $500 a week does not really change things for her. She still has to work in other words. I also think that the relationship was too close to being a prostitute for her. Since all the restaurants and entertainment venues are closed, it was just her coming over to my house and having sex. I think she was uncomfortable with the idea of it. She imagines it to be more a girlfriend-type arrangement. For me, I am not ready to take that step with her. There is a 46-year age difference. I didn't want to be seen in public places with her around my town. As Mick Jagger sang, "Don't want you out in my world, just be my backstreet girl. ".

It was the my first go at this type of thing. I overpaid but nothing that were really hurts. She was the type that I would enjoy a regular relationship. She was an attractive nerd. Given that she is turning down a reliable $2000 a month, she might have better offers. I have an issue with an alcoholic brother who I support so I have a budget limitations.

She did talk about wanting to travel. She mentioned weekend trips to various venues. She is an Instagram model with 16000 followers. Much of her Instagram is filled with pictures of her trips wearing new clothes. I might keep texting her every three days or so just to keep the irons hot and if I get an idea for a weekend trip as things open up, I might propose one to her. She was the one that brought vacationing together up in the conversation. The sex was good. Like I previously commented, it was equivalent to an hour room at FKK Sharks.

I am glad I did it. It took a bunch of time and money to get her in bed. But in the age of Covid-19, I have time and money.

After being stood twice, she calls me this morning saying she can be there in a 30 minutes. I have no plans. Sundays are like every other day under Covid-19. I say okay. So I guess the $500 is enticing enough for her. She asked me if it was okay to hang out at my house while she does her homework. I am thinking it might be okay. One girl during Covid-19 is enough risk. This one is not perfect but she is fun enough. I am willing to keep it going.

[SonicBoom1]

This is why I started trying to hook up with with married migrant workers. I started doing this last year. I got the idea from a housekeeper. I heard her on her cell phone talking about her local boyfriend, even though she's married with kids back home. This made me realize that there must be tens of thousands (maybe hundreds of thousands) of horny migrant workers in my city, doing the minimum wage jobs such as waitress, security guard, janitor, etc. I started flirting with so many of them. Sure, most of them laugh at me, but a good portion are flattered by the attention. I've got some good stories on this, but I digress.

Would you share some of the stories? I'm curious to see how this has been working for you.

[Steve 9696]

Hi guys. I've been thinking about trying out SA for a few years now but was mongering on trips to Cuba and Columbia and day trips to Tijuana and the Hong Kong Club (I live very close to Mexico). I am going to register and take a look at the girls now that those activities have been shut down. I have read most of this forum. How important is it to set up a separate email account? I am single and self employed so not concerned with keeping my ID secret. Also in light of the covid, is this a good or bad time for finding SB's. Thanks in advance for any info.

Truly better to try to stay anonymous. Sure she's fine now. But what if your SB turns south and stalks you or tries to make difficulty? No sense inviting trouble. Girls are used to fake names and contacts. They do the same. So yes set up a "girls" account and pick a name you will go by consistently.