Seeking Arrangements

[WyattEarp]

Honestly it was a great date right up to a few minutes before the end. We went out for Italian at a restaurant of her choice. She's late 20's and a pretty accomplished middle manager so not as submissive as the young 20's girls. But we had a really great dinner. And I wasn't ready to just rush to the room so she followed me (20 min drive) to the speakeasy near my hotel. We parked in hotel parking so it def seemed very on.

She loves speakeasies and the vibe was great. I was doing plenty of light touching and lean ins and the chemistry was there. Walked to the hotel hand in hand. Ninths room it was very comfortable and a bit playful. We end up on the bed and while we're chatting I softly play with her tits. We kiss some. Just letting it develop. Eventually I am pulling her lacy bra down and working her nipples which are super big and get nice and hard. She is clearly enjoying herself. We even get her dress mostly off. Licking at her waistline I move down to her thigh gap and get a "not ready for that yet". Boo. We do kiss some more and some more tit play but she is adamant no sex on first date. Damn 28 year olds!

Well obviously I am disappointed and she is surprised I would expect sex on first date. So a bit of a light verbal scuffle there..

This is a very interesting situation Steve. Do you want to see if this morphs into non-monetary sex? Perhaps you don't have the time and patience for this. Even worse, maybe she wants a real boyfriend.

Things would be perfect if you could go out with this girl and then go back to your hotel to have sex with Kayla. I'm only joking of course.

[WyattEarp]

Skinny under 25 girls are all over the planet so then you need to ask yourself what you like. White, black, Latina. Latinas tend to plump up fast so as a numbers guy I'd say that wouldn't be my first choice.

So funny and so true about the Latinas. I think you might be off a few years though. The skinny, hot Latinas really work to keep that club figure. Beginning around 25 is when I think they start to lose the battle.

[WyattEarp]

Interestingly enough, in my considerable mongering life, the best sex I've ever had was with girls that didn't speak my language and I did not or barely spoke theirs.

I thought about this and I have to admit there is something to this. Perhaps it's somewhat similar to how deaf or blind people have heightened senses. The focus is solely on the sex. No need for phony, superficial conversations between two people with very different lives. Sex is the only way to communicate.

I remember a Brazilian girl who I met on one trip to Brazil. I spent two amazing nights with her and she spoke absolutely no English. I saw her every year for a couple years. As her English improved (undoubtedly she met many foreigners in her line of work), I found I really did not have much verbal chemistry with her. And as such, the sex was not as amazing.

I could chalk this up to a one-off situation or I just got tired of sex with her. However, I found this to be somewhat true with other foreign women as well as other parts of the world.

[DramaFree11]

I can't remember any real advice from you, only accusations of me complaining too much (all my complaints / issues are legit, there are multiple reports by other members experiencing the same). I used to like reading your field reports though, good stuff.

M.

Yes, you said the girls in MTY were not goid looking enough for you. But, who cares. Remember we are all very fortunate and lucky enough to have great lives and do amazing things. Be positive and try to learn something from everyone. It is ok, to complain about 1 or 2 destinations, but no every where. I will do the same. Good luck.

Kiev was great at one time.

MDE has probably always sucked, or you have very low standards.

Mxico / Moscow are the best!!

[MiamiBoy1]

As usual you are wrong. You forgot that you turned down advice from myself and others. My life is amazing both professionally and socially, maybe you could learn something from my hard work and treating people with respect.

I can't remember any real advice from you, only accusations of me complaining too much (all my complaints / issues are legit, there are multiple reports by other members experiencing the same). I used to like reading your field reports though, good stuff.

[Igor54]

M. Boy is great example of how not to act. All this guys does is brag about how great he is and yet he runs into one problem after another. I am 52 and having the best time of my life, and the most sex in my life. I meeting incredible girls, having amazing experiences.

It's good, the problem is, aging is not a linear process, you can expect that the rate will increase exponentially. Good luck with girls.

[Pessimist]

I would say 3-6% in the states. But in Mxico I am probably at 18-25% it is amazing. I listen to guys bashing it. I could not disagree, my experience has been amazing. Sure bad things happen, but I just keep moving forward.

Perhaps you are right. That's a great success rate in Mexico, good for you! I should say a few things, fairly obvious points: (a) these percent's are imprecise, I did not calculate with a spreadsheet (b) individual mileage will vary; in the same, same prices, one dude will have more success than some other, just the nature of this game (c) there will be variation between cities and most definitely countries (d) depends on how much we are willing to pay; pay high enough, you can have 100% success rate and vice versa (e) my target spec is White / early 20's, slim bodied, pretty girls; they usually demand highest amounts (f) I am very disciplined and don't pay up.

Also, my 2% number is based on actual sex encounters. There are many more girls who say yes to my offer but due to scheduling etc we did not make it happen. I am having difficulty making up enough excuses to leave the house as I have a family and we still have work from home at my company. If I was single and could fuck whenever I wanted, my success rates would be much higher. So, if a girl says "hey, I am free, come over to my place or can I come to you" at 11 PM on Wednesday night, I can't say yes but if I was single, I could do that. That makes a huge difference.

All in all, SA is a great experience. Much better than Tinder etc. Yes, the fee is high but if you avail of the discounted fare, it is only $200 for 3 months which is worth it. (P.S.: SA should offer a discount annual sale, say $600 to $700). The reason some guys are frustrated is because they have inflated, unrealistic expectations. The problem is them. To me, SA is a resource. It is up to the monger how efficiently he will use the resource.

[Steve 9696]

Please clear out some messages from your inbox. Thanks!

All clear fire away!

[DramaFree11]

I don't know anything about those locations. My activity on SA is confined to US (and EU when I travel there, which hasn't happened in 2 years). I don't disagree there is a high amount of flakiness and if anything, it has increased massively since the pandemic. But 2 visits with repeat girls is very much doable, if you find the right ones of course. One example: there was a University student I wrote about a few weeks ago. Pretty, 22, blonde, slim body, quite intelligent and independent. It took me nearly 4 to 5 weeks of pursuit before she finally met me. I liked her but the sex quality has been somewhat tepid. $300 allowance. Since that first time, she writes to me pretty much every week, and often multiple times a week to see if I want to "hang". This is a fairly common experience for me. The first sex meet is a high hurdle with a girl, she doesn't put out so easily, even when you pay a good amount. But once she has been deflowered in an arrangement, she wants to keep coming back (provided you don't turn out to be an AH in the bed). Of course for me, I want to sample as many pussies as possible and the desire is the exact opposite. After a single fuck, the novelty wears off 50% and after 2 or 3, it is down 90% and it feels like an old relationship.

That said, I don't disagree that SA is a lot of work. I used to think success rate is 5% to 10% at most, now it is probably 2%. I. E. If I send a "Hello, how are you?" message to 100 girls, the chance that I will actually fuck one of them is 2/100, AT the price point I want to. Even if I went up to $500 or more, the chance only increases to 10% to 20%. Nearly 50% or more of the "girls" on SA are absolute scammers, thieves. Of late, at least in my city, there are a bunch of Chinese or some other Asian nationals, probably not in the USA, posing as girls and trying to lure the guy onto WhatsApp (rarely use local numbers) who are then trying to sell some kinda defi, crypto, mining some other shit scam. I have gotten good at spotting them after a few encounters and typically flag them to the mod right away but they keep sprouting up by the dozens. I don't know if others are noticing this group.

I would say 3-6% in the states. But in Mxico I am probably at 18-25% it is amazing. I listen to guys bashing it. I could not disagree, my experience has been amazing. Sure bad things happen, but I just keep moving forward.

[The Cane]

Please clear out some messages from your inbox. Thanks!

[Pessimist]

I have been flaked on countless number of times, in Medellin, Bogota, Rio, CDMX. I was always wondering how other guys manage to fuck so many girls in a short period of time. I simply can't, even if I wanted to. I consider myself lucky if I score 2 dates per week (even with repeat girls). I rarely see negative reports here, most of them are indeed rainbows and unicorns. Thanks for sharing!

I don't know anything about those locations. My activity on SA is confined to US (and EU when I travel there, which hasn't happened in 2 years). I don't disagree there is a high amount of flakiness and if anything, it has increased massively since the pandemic. But 2 visits with repeat girls is very much doable, if you find the right ones of course. One example: there was a University student I wrote about a few weeks ago. Pretty, 22, blonde, slim body, quite intelligent and independent. It took me nearly 4 to 5 weeks of pursuit before she finally met me. I liked her but the sex quality has been somewhat tepid. $300 allowance. Since that first time, she writes to me pretty much every week, and often multiple times a week to see if I want to "hang". This is a fairly common experience for me. The first sex meet is a high hurdle with a girl, she doesn't put out so easily, even when you pay a good amount. But once she has been deflowered in an arrangement, she wants to keep coming back (provided you don't turn out to be an AH in the bed). Of course for me, I want to sample as many pussies as possible and the desire is the exact opposite. After a single fuck, the novelty wears off 50% and after 2 or 3, it is down 90% and it feels like an old relationship.

That said, I don't disagree that SA is a lot of work. I used to think success rate is 5% to 10% at most, now it is probably 2%. I. E. If I send a "Hello, how are you?" message to 100 girls, the chance that I will actually fuck one of them is 2/100, AT the price point I want to. Even if I went up to $500 or more, the chance only increases to 10% to 20%. Nearly 50% or more of the "girls" on SA are absolute scammers, thieves. Of late, at least in my city, there are a bunch of Chinese or some other Asian nationals, probably not in the USA, posing as girls and trying to lure the guy onto WhatsApp (rarely use local numbers) who are then trying to sell some kinda defi, crypto, mining some other shit scam. I have gotten good at spotting them after a few encounters and typically flag them to the mod right away but they keep sprouting up by the dozens. I don't know if others are noticing this group.

[DramaFree11]

This is a great example of bragging.

As usual you are wrong. You forgot that you turned down advice from myself and others. My life is amazing both professionally and socially, maybe you could learn something from my hard work and treating people with respect.

[MiamiBoy1]

I am 52 and having the best time of my life, and the most sex in my life. I meeting incredible girls, having amazing experiences.

This is a great example of bragging.

[DramaFree11]

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[Steve 9696]

So I took one for the team. My $60 on sugar daddy.com was total waste of money. Of the 8 or so missives I sent out, not a single response. Not one. Not even a Hi. Def avoid.