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01-04-22 03:43 #2624
Posts: 2794Originally Posted by Pessimist [View Original Post]
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01-04-22 03:20 #2623
Posts: 2794Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1 [View Original Post]
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01-04-22 02:59 #2622
Posts: 2703Negotiate Ahead
Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1 [View Original Post]
Back to following my playbook!
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01-04-22 02:32 #2621
Posts: 1385Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1 [View Original Post]
I never see older ladies, other ethnicity women, 'a few extra pounds" etc.
I don't care about smoking, height, etc.
Oh, I filter out trans, seeking trans, anything with trans. That would be my nightmare; we check into a room, she pulls down panties and has "a dangling little her".
I think at any given time, in my 100 mile range, I see 150 to 200 girls online (during peak times could be 250+). Over a week, my guess would be that there are 500 to 800 girls in that spec range in my 100 mile range. Perhaps higher. So, it would appear I am somewhat lucky; for fun, I checked the same in various European cities and numbers are far smaller. * For example I just checked out Novosibirisk in Russia because Siberian girls are supposed to be hot. There is one girl online at the moment (it is morning there), 4 who logged in the last 24 hours, 3 more who logged in last week. Yes, they are all fucking super hot, but just 7 who logged in a week.
I do say Hello, (copy / paste message, generally 3 or 4 lines with how cute they are, I want to get to know them and I will provide help promise; no reference to sex whatsoever) to a fair number if the face is attractive enough. Since I limited search by race, body type, age etc, the only deciding factor is facial attraction. I typically don't bother to read what they wrote in their bios. It is BS anyway. I had sex with girls who claimed they want to be strictly platonic, and a ton of girls who say in the bio "down for anything" coyly inform me they want to be online only. Clearly "anything" has a different meaning in their dictionary.
I would say, 30% or more are total scammers. I. E. They might be dudes sitting in some foreign country looking to scam some money off horny US gentlemen. As I mentioned, of late, these DeFi / crypto scammers have propped up. They usually front with a model-type Asian women, very skinny, glossy photos, almost Eurasian faces; age is often listed 30 but she looks 21; more than half are listed as divorced, single moms etc. They are always traveling, half have London apartments (plural), they are not here for money but want a romantic relationship and they can't meet because of the travels. Not sure why, this scammer type has been infesting my area. I was curious if others are seeing them in their searches.
At least a third or more will not have sex whatsoever. Platonic only. Nearly 80% of 18-20 age group falls into this category. Most of them do not even want to meet. Some of these girls can be totally clueless. Sometimes I play along with them; several said they don't need much, just enough to meet their current living expenses, and then quoted they want $1,500 to $2,000 a week for chatting, texting, some non-nude pics. Sometimes I weep about the intelligence of my country's future women, if these are representative samples. Or perhaps there are some guys who actually are that gullible.
I'd say, the remaining (may be a third) are open to meet, perhaps to sex. Since I don't outright ask for sex due to concern about sting operations, it is always somewhat implied, never stated. I typically ask to meet for a drink / coffee meet. Here, many discussions break down. Quite a few want upfront payment for the intro meet. "why should I meet you and spend time if I don't get compensated" is a common refrain. So, the more malleable / honest ones agree to meet if I promise them I will pay something for the intro meet (which I don't). The less flexible / less honest ones want a Cashapp / Venmo payment before they agree to come over. Obviously, only the dumbest people ever do that.
The change I have seen is that prepandemic to now, the percent demanding upfront payment has spiked up a lot. Very puzzling because so many are broke and need money.
Some of them are full of themselves. "my time is of value" they arrogantly claim. I mean so many of them are making minimum wage or nothing, and here I make hundreds an hour if I divide my annual comp by the number of hours I work, and I am being told their time is too valuable.
A small percent agreed to meet, I confirmed they are still coming before I start driving, and it is a no-show. That's right, the bloody b) t) h had no intention to show up but said "yes I am on my way". The gall these girls have talking about wasting time on scammers.
That leaves really 10-20% who are truly interested and will meet and have sex and all that; since I will always have a allowance negotiation prior to a intro coffee meet, and with my strict discipline, I lose quite a few there.
If I was ready to pay $500 or even more (say the $1000 that the other gentleman was paying), perhaps these percent's would be larger, even much larger. It is possible many of the girls who want upfront payment for a coffee meet may not demand it if I said I pay $1000 ppm. But I stay honest and tell them my allowance limit and I will not budge.
So, how am I snagging any girls at all? (a) because even a small percent of 800 is a big enough number (b) time and patience. I have been on the site for 6 years now and accumulated contacts help. Not contacts from 6 years, mind you. The shelf life of these girls is maybe 2 to 4 years max. I see very few girls on the site who I had seen 3 years ago* or 4 years ago. Of course, if someone was 26 years old 4 years ago, she is pushing 30 now and I filter her out with my screens.
With all these things said, in just 4 to 5 months, I have phone#s of at least 15 to 20 girls who agreed to everything and ready to have sex and I did have sex with 5 or 6 of them, all of them new contacts since I rejoined the site in late August I think. So, time and law of large numbers are on your side. Be patient, enjoy the process, enjoy the chats even with obvious scammers (I even enjoy the chats with the DeFi scammers even though I spot them off the bat). If I was not married and could meet a girl anytime of the day / week, then I am fairly confident I can have sex on 4 to 5 days a week if not all 7. Once a girl had sex with you, she knows you are safe, will pay as promised, don't hurt her physically, she wants that money and will meet multiple times a week.
I also have seen the good girls being flexible at lower prices but also a lot more scammers. On the face of it, that seems paradoxical. If the supply worsened, more scammers can be expected; but why are the good girls available at cheaper prices than earlier? Tough to say.
4 to 5 years ago, that 800 number I quoted above was significantly lower. But scammer percent was also way low. As the site became better known, everyone flocked onto the site. In this regard, I see parallels to German FKKs which is my other mongering outlet (in normal times).
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01-04-22 00:10 #2620
Posts: 728Originally Posted by Pessimist [View Original Post]
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01-03-22 23:52 #2619
Posts: 6420WyattEarp
Please clear your inbox. You guys just don't actively manage your messages do you?
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01-03-22 23:44 #2618
Posts: 2041Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]
Things would be perfect if you could go out with this girl and then go back to your hotel to have sex with Kayla. I'm only joking of course.
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01-03-22 23:33 #2617
Posts: 2041Originally Posted by FilthyBeaver [View Original Post]
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01-03-22 23:28 #2616
Posts: 2041Originally Posted by FilthyBeaver [View Original Post]
I remember a Brazilian girl who I met on one trip to Brazil. I spent two amazing nights with her and she spoke absolutely no English. I saw her every year for a couple years. As her English improved (undoubtedly she met many foreigners in her line of work), I found I really did not have much verbal chemistry with her. And as such, the sex was not as amazing.
I could chalk this up to a one-off situation or I just got tired of sex with her. However, I found this to be somewhat true with other foreign women as well as other parts of the world.
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01-03-22 18:57 #2615
Posts: 2794Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1 [View Original Post]
Yes, you said the girls in MTY were not goid looking enough for you. But, who cares. Remember we are all very fortunate and lucky enough to have great lives and do amazing things. Be positive and try to learn something from everyone. It is ok, to complain about 1 or 2 destinations, but no every where. I will do the same. Good luck.
Kiev was great at one time.
MDE has probably always sucked, or you have very low standards.
Mxico / Moscow are the best!!
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01-03-22 18:22 #2614
Posts: 728Originally Posted by DramaFree11 [View Original Post]
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01-03-22 15:45 #2613
Posts: 167Originally Posted by DramaFree11 [View Original Post]
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01-03-22 14:05 #2612
Posts: 1385Originally Posted by DramaFree11 [View Original Post]
Also, my 2% number is based on actual sex encounters. There are many more girls who say yes to my offer but due to scheduling etc we did not make it happen. I am having difficulty making up enough excuses to leave the house as I have a family and we still have work from home at my company. If I was single and could fuck whenever I wanted, my success rates would be much higher. So, if a girl says "hey, I am free, come over to my place or can I come to you" at 11 PM on Wednesday night, I can't say yes but if I was single, I could do that. That makes a huge difference.
All in all, SA is a great experience. Much better than Tinder etc. Yes, the fee is high but if you avail of the discounted fare, it is only $200 for 3 months which is worth it. (P.S.: SA should offer a discount annual sale, say $600 to $700). The reason some guys are frustrated is because they have inflated, unrealistic expectations. The problem is them. To me, SA is a resource. It is up to the monger how efficiently he will use the resource.
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01-03-22 13:50 #2611
Posts: 2703All Clear
Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]
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01-03-22 05:07 #2610
Posts: 2794Originally Posted by Pessimist [View Original Post]