Seeking Arrangements

[Steve 9696]

If you are going to take this road, you have to be prepared for the time investment. That is the first thing I was told about SA. This couldn't be more true. It is easy to get 50 responses, but then you have to weed out the pros / scammers / scared girls etc. When it all boils down, you'll have 5 dates lined up, of which only 3 materialize to a bang. If this is exciting to you, then you will love SA (it's my drug). If not, then you will spend a lot of money trying to find a solid pro that gives you an awesome experience. They are out there, but not easy to find, plus the factors that affect the quality of an interaction with a pro are many. Including but not limited to: is she bitter from years in the field? Did she just have a bad experience right before you? Is she normally a *****? Does she not like your race (black / asian / indian / white)? Does she think she can scam you? So much to consider.

For instance, I love the EU scene and I have had great times in London. I have had a few romanian girls and every experience has been shit, to the point that I avoid romanian girls now. This is coming from a guy that can speak some romanian too. I just don't like their vibe, attitude, willingness to participate, etc. When I have come across romanian strippers, we have a blast, and I get more for less (high mileage) !! They love that I can understand them and they don't ahve to speak english, but for some reason I don't jive with the escorts? I even had one of those karmatantric girls in London one evening and she was awesome (romanian / turkish) with no issue. I find that I get much better value from other girls, especially ukrainians and czechs.

So, keep your options open and use the quality avenues that bring you pleasure (escorts / strippers / massage parlors / fkks). I personally have a few escorts that I keep in whatsapp that already know me as a trusted monger, so I get priority. One of them even sends me holiday greetings LOL.

02.

Lshoomer. It's true in general Romanian girls have a bad rep. But have you ever had a top girl at Diva in London? Melty, Fortune, Cambria, Rivetta, Noleta, Kendall? These are just some of the raven haired beauties I've enjoyed all Ro-girls and all with great attitude looks and service. I can't imagine you have had a top Diva girl. They will change your mind on Romanians. I am a fan now.

[LshRoomer]

It takes a lot of time, but I enjoy it. Like I browse and chat EVERY DAY sometimes for a couple hours. This is probably overkill but remember the non-pros come on and go off pretty quickly. There is constant churn. So you have to be on a lot to catch the window.

I browsed south Florida for several weeks and found 3-4 that would have been quality meetups. Had Covid not hit I would be with one of them for sure. I think I posted a FR a few weeks back of a Columbiana I found in Miami last year. Semi-pro in that she knew what she was doing but it never felt escortish. Great experience.

If you are going to take this road, you have to be prepared for the time investment. That is the first thing I was told about SA. This couldn't be more true. It is easy to get 50 responses, but then you have to weed out the pros / scammers / scared girls etc. When it all boils down, you'll have 5 dates lined up, of which only 3 materialize to a bang. If this is exciting to you, then you will love SA (it's my drug). If not, then you will spend a lot of money trying to find a solid pro that gives you an awesome experience. They are out there, but not easy to find, plus the factors that affect the quality of an interaction with a pro are many. Including but not limited to: is she bitter from years in the field? Did she just have a bad experience right before you? Is she normally a *****? Does she not like your race (black / asian / indian / white)? Does she think she can scam you? So much to consider.

For instance, I love the EU scene and I have had great times in London. I have had a few romanian girls and every experience has been shit, to the point that I avoid romanian girls now. This is coming from a guy that can speak some romanian too. I just don't like their vibe, attitude, willingness to participate, etc. When I have come across romanian strippers, we have a blast, and I get more for less (high mileage) !! They love that I can understand them and they don't ahve to speak english, but for some reason I don't jive with the escorts? I even had one of those karmatantric girls in London one evening and she was awesome (romanian / turkish) with no issue. I find that I get much better value from other girls, especially ukrainians and czechs.

So, keep your options open and use the quality avenues that bring you pleasure (escorts / strippers / massage parlors / fkks). I personally have a few escorts that I keep in whatsapp that already know me as a trusted monger, so I get priority. One of them even sends me holiday greetings LOL.

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[LshRoomer]

This discussion that services and number of hours can vary is odd to me. We are on SA to hire a GF, not a pro. And a GF should NOT specify services and number of hours per date.

If we agree on 400 or 500, then by default that means we should then stop talking about the money and just have a good time. This means bar hopping, gambling, drinking, dancing, holding hands, eating, site-seeing, etc. And then going back to the room for great sex and then passing out. Next morning, maybe get breakfast together. For her, the money should just be a bonus, and not the only reason why she dates me.

If a gal on SA told me that the date would be for 2 hours or 4 hours, then I would take a pass. I could find a real pro for that, and with little time and effort. This is why many of us spend so much time on SA, to hire a great GF, not to hire a pro. My arrangements always stayed until the date felt like it was naturally coming to an end, almost always the next day. Yes, I did have many girls tell me that the date would be for 4 hours, but I never agreed to meet any of them. I didn't use SA to find someone that only wanted to see me for money. I already hire pros for that.

I couldn't agree more. As I was reading the post that mentioned a specific number of hours for an outing or hotel time, I immediately thought exactly what you wrote MW. The whole purpose of SA is to have the GF experience. If a SB is quoting time and essentially breaking her time with you down to an amount per hour, then you should abandon ship.

I personally haven't come across an SB that tells me how long she expects the date to be. But if I did, it would be a pass 100%. Our time together needs to feel natural, no schedule (unless you make it known that you have other plans), and def not let's bang so I can get my money and go attitude. I make it very clear in my profile that if an SB is just an idiot with a pretty face that wants Chanel bags, then we will not click. I emphasize that I'm looking for someone to chill with, explore and have good times. Most SBs usually mention that in my profile when we talk, and they like it. Maybe this helps to weed out some of the pros when you make it clear that pussy isn't your only aim. It is, but I like to have fun first!

What I hate is the girl that changes the number mid date. She takes your kindness for a weakness and thinks she can get over on you. This has only happened to me once, but it made me much more harsh to the girls, essentially completely intolerant. I haven't' been on SA for a while now, bc of COVID, but I can see all the BS that I'll have to deal with when I come back. I'm hoping that they haven't become more like sharks bc of COVID.

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[Steve 9696]

You are really making want to go to London, Steve! Did you do SA in Brazil? Anyone else here try it in Brazil? I was getting great responses before I realized we could not go to Brazil (although we can go now) and am going to fly a gal from SP to Mexico City next month.

I did not try SA in SP. I love the Boate scene so much I can't see doing anything else. I did engage a few SA girls and they were very nice and seemed promising but found myself kicking myself for possibly reducing my Boate time. In the end I am glad I didn't do any SA. I think every minute I am not at a Boate I will regret.

But if U find a girl u are into its no problem to see them outside the club. Most Brasileiras are really flexible and not clock watchers.

P.S. Remember these girls don't speak English mostly so dinner out might not be the same as dinner in London or US say.

PPS Remember that in Brasil being an hour late is being on time. I am NOT kidding. It is perfectly accepted that if she is an hour late to ur date time she is on time. LOL. Takes some getting used to! (And it happened to me with both Carolina and Thifany, both of whom I saw outside the club).

[Elvis 2008]

Yet in London where ro-girl escorts are spectacular on my one day layover had an Escort at 10 AM, SB from 3-7, and an escort later that night. Maximum impact! LOL.

You are really making want to go to London, Steve! Did you do SA in Brazil? Anyone else here try it in Brazil? I was getting great responses before I realized we could not go to Brazil (although we can go now) and am going to fly a gal from SP to Mexico City next month.

[Akibono]

Yeah depends on your city and country. In the US I don't care for the pro scene that much. Overpriced for mediocre looks and talent. When I was in Vegas I had three different SBs (8. 5, 8, 7. 5) across 5 nights, repeating with two of them. Yet in London where ro-girl escorts are spectacular on my one day layover had an Escort at 10 AM, SB from 3-7, and an escort later that night. Maximum impact! LOL.

I agree completely. There is no limit to good sex. Do not limit yourself to one option. Each has its advantages. But 3 in one day! I am impressed, both by the number and the duration. That's lining up the cherries on the slot machine. LOL. My favorite ladies are not the ones that let you come multiple times, but want to make you come multiple times until you are satisfied. That, to me, is combining the best of GFE and PSE.

[Steve 9696]

Agree with Steve. When I was active on SA, I spent about 20 hours (sometimes more) per week on the site. Over a 20 month period, I had about two dozen great arrangements. You might think this is a huge waste of time, but when was the last time I had two dozen great GFs in less than 2 years? Answer: never.

A lot of skeptics may say it's not worth the time and effort, and say that I should just go with the pros. But here's the thing: being active on SA and being with pros is NOT mutually exclusive. During the 20 months while I was on SA, I still saw pros and went to FS AMPS, probably about twice (or more) per week.

But like Steve says, I enjoyed it while I was on it. If this doesn't sound enjoyable, then definitely don't do it. If someone were to say that this is a total waste of time, I probably would not argue with him that much.

Yeah depends on your city and country. In the US I don't care for the pro scene that much. Overpriced for mediocre looks and talent. When I was in Vegas I had three different SBs (8. 5, 8, 7. 5) across 5 nights, repeating with two of them. Yet in London where ro-girl escorts are spectacular on my one day layover had an Escort at 10 AM, SB from 3-7, and an escort later that night. Maximum impact! LOL.

[Midwestern]

Agree with Steve. When I was active on SA, I spent about 20 hours (sometimes more) per week on the site. Over a 20 month period, I had about two dozen great arrangements. You might think this is a huge waste of time, but when was the last time I had two dozen great GFs in less than 2 years? Answer: never.

A lot of skeptics may say it's not worth the time and effort, and say that I should just go with the pros. But here's the thing: being active on SA and being with pros is NOT mutually exclusive. During the 20 months while I was on SA, I still saw pros and went to FS AMPS, probably about twice (or more) per week.

But like Steve says, I enjoyed it while I was on it. If this doesn't sound enjoyable, then definitely don't do it. If someone were to say that this is a total waste of time, I probably would not argue with him that much.

It takes a lot of time, but I enjoy it. Like I browse and chat EVERY DAY sometimes for a couple hours. This is probably overkill but remember the non-pros come on and go off pretty quickly. There is constant churn. So you have to be on a lot to catch the window.

I browsed south Florida for several weeks and found 3-4 that would have been quality meetups. Had Covid not hit I would be with one of them for sure. I think I posted a FR a few weeks back of a Columbiana I found in Miami last year. Semi-pro in that she knew what she was doing but it never felt escortish. Great experience.

[Steve 9696]

How much time / effort does it take to find these non-pros? Most of the ones I'm running into South Flordia are pros!

It takes a lot of time, but I enjoy it. Like I browse and chat EVERY DAY sometimes for a couple hours. This is probably overkill but remember the non-pros come on and go off pretty quickly. There is constant churn. So you have to be on a lot to catch the window.

I browsed south Florida for several weeks and found 3-4 that would have been quality meetups. Had Covid not hit I would be with one of them for sure. I think I posted a FR a few weeks back of a Columbiana I found in Miami last year. Semi-pro in that she knew what she was doing but it never felt escortish. Great experience.

[Luminous]

This is why many of us spend so much time on SA, to hire a great GF, not to hire a pro.

How much time / effort does it take to find these non-pros? Most of the ones I'm running into South Flordia are pros!

[DiverOyster]

The 300-1000 range that you shared has been my experience too. Connected with a girl that claims to be 20 year athlete and 1 K per meeting. Was way higher than what I was expecting!

Did you ask her for 1 k, how much time will she spend with you?

[Midwestern]

Agreed. In my market, I have been quoted anywhere from $300 to $1,000 PPM. However, the number of hours included in a PPM varies from girl to girl. It's best to clarity the PPM's "number of hours" with your chic so there won't be any surprise. One chic told me for $300, she will spend 1-2 hours in the hotel. Another chic told me for $400, it's dinner and then about 1. 5 hours in hotel.

This discussion that services and number of hours can vary is odd to me. We are on SA to hire a GF, not a pro. And a GF should NOT specify services and number of hours per date.

If we agree on 400 or 500, then by default that means we should then stop talking about the money and just have a good time. This means bar hopping, gambling, drinking, dancing, holding hands, eating, site-seeing, etc. And then going back to the room for great sex and then passing out. Next morning, maybe get breakfast together. For her, the money should just be a bonus, and not the only reason why she dates me.

If a gal on SA told me that the date would be for 2 hours or 4 hours, then I would take a pass. I could find a real pro for that, and with little time and effort. This is why many of us spend so much time on SA, to hire a great GF, not to hire a pro. My arrangements always stayed until the date felt like it was naturally coming to an end, almost always the next day. Yes, I did have many girls tell me that the date would be for 4 hours, but I never agreed to meet any of them. I didn't use SA to find someone that only wanted to see me for money. I already hire pros for that.

[Luminous]

Agreed. In my market, I have been quoted anywhere from $300 to $1,000 PPM. However, the number of hours included in a PPM varies from girl to girl. It's best to clarity the PPM's "number of hours" with your chic so there won't be any surprise. One chic told me for $300, she will spend 1-2 hours in the hotel. Another chic told me for $400, it's dinner and then about 1. 5 hours in hotel.

SA is so different from FKK Globe, which is my pre-COVID playground. Each chic on SA sets her own price and rules. I can't assume anything. I will have to clarify with each chic the specifics of the arrangement.

The 300-1000 range that you shared has been my experience too. Connected with a girl that claims to be 20 year athlete and 1 K per meeting. Was way higher than what I was expecting!

[DiverOyster]

In my local market $500 is the quoted price but it's the inclusions for this that varies. Some girls will do overnight for $500, some all afternoon, some will be 2 hours for $500. I had one girls that would travel with me for $500 per week. Some will have zero flexibility with $500 others will totally accommodate for $500.

In considering the 'price' it means nothing without also consider the service. Within their peer groups, the girls may say they get $500 per week but maybe they are not so specific on what each of them does for $500.

In considering opening offers, $500 maybe the price point but you could always increase her performance requirements to sex twice per week etc.

It's the girls that say $500 per meet for two hours are the ones I avoid as there is no upside.

PP.

Agreed. In my market, I have been quoted anywhere from $300 to $1,000 PPM. However, the number of hours included in a PPM varies from girl to girl. It's best to clarity the PPM's "number of hours" with your chic so there won't be any surprise. One chic told me for $300, she will spend 1-2 hours in the hotel. Another chic told me for $400, it's dinner and then about 1. 5 hours in hotel.

SA is so different from FKK Globe, which is my pre-COVID playground. Each chic on SA sets her own price and rules. I can't assume anything. I will have to clarify with each chic the specifics of the arrangement.

[DiverOyster]

So I've gone from nearly batting 1000 to batting like a chump in the last two encounters. And they had a common thread. You may recall Courtney very nice vibe. Real pics. Girlfriendy. Arrange a meetup. And when I show she says she needs CashApp to get there. Damn. An anomaly?

A couple days ago I found a girl. Nice enough but clearly a pro. Says she can host. We text a little. Agree to meetup. She gives me the road she lives on a day or so ahead and it's a pretty nice area. Slight alert there. Then we are to meetup today. I tell her I am on my way and she gives me the house number. Arrive but need a unit number. I now have a text oh did we talk about how I need CashApp because I've been burned before? NO we did not fucking talk about that or I wouldn't have driven over here you be*tch!

WTF. Two very extensive catfishes with me driving to meetup. Feel like a total chump. Not quitting but damn that was discouraging. Just FYI it's not all roses. Even for a pro.

A scammer for sure Steve. Report her profile to SA. SA is very responsive. I think they try hard to weed out the scammers.

The chics who mention CashApp are all scammers. Heck, there may not be even a chic behind the profile.