Seeking Arrangements

[FilthyBeaver]

I'm not going to argue that particular situation but I most definitely have had gfs from Seeking. We've had exclusivity talks, spent days together, swapped std test results, and texted throughout the day for months on end while the relationship lasted. Yes I gave her money, sometimes more than we agreed to, but it is no different (in my mind) than seeing a girl my own age that didn't have her act together and constantly needed money except that I'd never see a girl my own age without her act together. There are as many reasons as there are girls out there for being on that site and some just want stability with an older guy. I had a beautiful girl half my age (literally) talk about marriage which scared the hell out of me causing me to pull back because I didn't want to hurt her. Call it what you want, in my book it's a GF / relationship. To be fair, I've also been more engaged than she was and gotten hurt so reality isn't lost on me but it's definitely possible to have a real GF from there. I've said this a million times but for the most part money isn't the driving factor for most of the girls there. There are just too many guys and too many options for them. They need to like you on some (or several other) levels and God bless them when they do. If I could tell my 17 year old self what I'd be getting away with when I was three times that age I probably would have kicked my own ass for lying to me.

If you paid her she's not your GF. She is your SB. Wake up and smell the coffee.

[Steve 9696]

If you paid her she's not your GF. She is your SB. Wake up and smell the coffee.

You know. You are right. Girlfriends can be moody, bitchy, and deny you sex because they aren't in the mood. No. She was definitely not my girlfriend. 😂.

[Vendelo]

Seeking is worth it if you visit places where it's not easy to get pussy in a brothel or club format. Not worth it in Germany or Thailand or Brazil for example. But if u are looking for pussy in USA or CDMX or Buenos Aires then it's indispensable. CDMX does not have good options other than massage format which is not my game. I had good success with SA there but it's not cheap. And I'm one of the few that loves the shopping and chitty chat on Seeking.

And the browsing can lead to greatness. That led to for example me shopping Madrid despite a great club and brothel scene there. And that lead to meeting the only legit ten I've ever encountered. And subsequently flying her to spend 4 days with said goddess in Athens. And I can now with a straight face say I had a legit ten as my girlfriend in all ways (for a short time). Would not have happened without an active subscription and nothing better to do than browse and chat up the girls. So it has unexpected side effects.

If you paid her she's not your GF. She is your SB. Wake up and smell the coffee.

[Steve 9696]

Planning my first trip into CDMX. At the high price point for SA and it looking to still being a 1% numbers game is it really worth it for LA / CDMX? I been lucky with a much higher average using less costly alts in other locations (EU / Asia). Or am I way off based and haven't figured out no one is actually paying the 100/ month? I don't mind spending, I do mind throwing away money like everyone else.

Seeking is worth it if you visit places where it's not easy to get pussy in a brothel or club format. Not worth it in Germany or Thailand or Brazil for example. But if u are looking for pussy in USA or CDMX or Buenos Aires then it's indispensable. CDMX does not have good options other than massage format which is not my game. I had good success with SA there but it's not cheap. And I'm one of the few that loves the shopping and chitty chat on Seeking.

And the browsing can lead to greatness. That led to for example me shopping Madrid despite a great club and brothel scene there. And that lead to meeting the only legit ten I've ever encountered. And subsequently flying her to spend 4 days with said goddess in Athens. And I can now with a straight face say I had a legit ten as my girlfriend in all ways (for a short time). Would not have happened without an active subscription and nothing better to do than browse and chat up the girls. So it has unexpected side effects.

[Gfefan]

Never been to CDMX. So, no comment there.

SA has been lot useful to me in EU. Less in US. However, it does produce outcomes. Requires work.

I don't pay 100 every month. I sign up, contact all the girls I "favorited" during non-sign up, chat, get numbers, operate off the phone and let subscripton expire. 3 or 4 months later, if I need fresh, I sign up again and repeat cycle.

Seeking usually sends you promo once you cancel subscription.

It's a lot of work, yes.

Planning my first trip into CDMX. At the high price point for SA and it looking to still being a 1% numbers game is it really worth it for LA / CDMX? I been lucky with a much higher average using less costly alts in other locations (EU / Asia). Or am I way off based and haven't figured out no one is actually paying the 100/ month? I don't mind spending, I do mind throwing away money like everyone else.

[AmericanPi]

Planning my first trip into CDMX. At the high price point for SA and it looking to still being a 1% numbers game is it really worth it for LA / CDMX? I been lucky with a much higher average using less costly alts in other locations (EU / Asia). Or am I way off based and haven't figured out no one is actually paying the 100/ month? I don't mind spending, I do mind throwing away money like everyone else.

A lot of us don't spend 1200/ yr. We just sign up to collect numbers when we go somewhere. Maybe 400/ yr.

But to me that's easily worth it. It's not even a question. It's expensive but it's kind of the only game in town for this sort of thing.

[Simtel]

Planning my first trip into CDMX. At the high price point for SA and it looking to still being a 1% numbers game is it really worth it for LA / CDMX? I been lucky with a much higher average using less costly alts in other locations (EU / Asia). Or am I way off based and haven't figured out no one is actually paying the 100/ month? I don't mind spending, I do mind throwing away money like everyone else.

[AmericanPi]

I'm an OG of the area and purposely stay off those boards as I'd be easy to identify. Just like everything else as we age, all I can do is ***** about how it used to be and that's enough to turn me off of taking a trip to the zona. Turns out I spend nominally more at home on SA and get more of what I want for much less hassle. Never been remotely concerned about going there for safety reasons, in fact I'm convinced the calle is probably one of the safest streets on the planet due to the hardward LE carries. The turn off is more about the constant propina, deafening music, sleezy hotels, crowds, and, most importantly, my type is generally not Latina but I have seen girls for months or even years when I found one I liked. Always from Sinaloa if that tells you what my type is.

I hear you. And of course, to each his own. But one thing I do like about going is that for a few hour drive from OC you are legitimately visit in a foreign country. And it feels like it. It's a real getaway.

I don't do zona much. It was fun a few times until it wasn't. But I do like Seeking there. I mean you have to wade through the escorts and pros. But there are some good ones mixed in.

[FilthyBeaver]

I'm an OG of the area and purposely stay off those boards as I'd be easy to identify. Just like everything else as we age, all I can do is ***** about how it used to be and that's enough to turn me off of taking a trip to the zona. Turns out I spend nominally more at home on SA and get more of what I want for much less hassle. Never been remotely concerned about going there for safety reasons, in fact I'm convinced the calle is probably one of the safest streets on the planet due to the hardward LE carries. The turn off is more about the constant propina, deafening music, sleezy hotels, crowds, and, most importantly, my type is generally not Latina but I have seen girls for months or even years when I found one I liked. Always from Sinaloa if that tells you what my type is.

Cross? No. I go there. I like it. It's not for everyone. It's seedy and kinda dangerous. But it's an inventive city. It's like a huge gentrification experiment right now where the gentrification is in the 4th inning. Some amazing restaurants and such. But also next to half finished buildings and you have to stay in certain areas.

[AmericanPi]

Not that I live anywhere near there or know anything about it.

There should be a way to filter out that place. I've no interest in crossing or relying on her to cross for a fling. Price savings doesn't matter as I'd rather pay a premium or whatever you want to call it for a 20 something caucasian girl to come to my door.

Cross? No. I go there. I like it. It's not for everyone. It's seedy and kinda dangerous. But it's an inventive city. It's like a huge gentrification experiment right now where the gentrification is in the 4th inning. Some amazing restaurants and such. But also next to half finished buildings and you have to stay in certain areas.

[FilthyBeaver]

Not that I live anywhere near there or know anything about it.

There should be a way to filter out that place. I've no interest in crossing or relying on her to cross for a fling. Price savings doesn't matter as I'd rather pay a premium or whatever you want to call it for a 20 something caucasian girl to come to my door.

I sometimes Seek in Tijuana. Yeah it's a mixed bag as you'd expect. A lot of escorts cross promote there. But still, some good times.

But it seems like they wiped it clean a few months ago. Like Seeking came in and cleared everyone out and rebooted Tijuana. Anyone else notice that?

[AmericanPi]

I sometimes Seek in Tijuana. Yeah it's a mixed bag as you'd expect. A lot of escorts cross promote there. But still, some good times.

But it seems like they wiped it clean a few months ago. Like Seeking came in and cleared everyone out and rebooted Tijuana. Anyone else notice that?

[JonnySutton]

I've used Seeking in London + European and Asian cities, and I'm selective about who I message. On average I'd get a reply from 40-50% of the girls I message, and 50% of those would be up for meeting. Some of them would then bale before the arranged meet (go quiet and not confirm my 'are we meeting' later text that I send in the morning). But anyways, during a 1 month sub I always manage 2-3 M&GS and 100% of those are successful. How many f-ing hours I waste on the website and chatting on IMs I can't say. Too many!

I was very active on SA for about 20 months, and used it all over the USA.

For big cities, my batting average for finally meeting gals in person, out of the gals I contacted, was way less than 1%. Literally. The attractive and youngish gals are getting hundreds of messages from hundreds of guys each week, and maybe each day. They don't have time to reply to everyone, nor the time to obviously meet all of us. In addition, many are pretty lazy to meet up and some are actually busy with jobs or school or with life in general. But for smaller cities, my average was much better, probably above 1%.

But once we met in person, then my batting average for eventually doing the deed with them was probably around 70% (of which half happened at that first meet and the other half happened at the next meet). This part all depends on chemistry and your game. When I was active on SA, I was a decent looking guy, not fat, and I think I am normal. If I were using SA today, I am sure my success rate after the first meeting in person would be much lower. For some reason, I have gotten way uglier as I have gotten older. Probably all that drinking wasn't helpful for my looks.

[Steve 9696]

For the guys have experience doing SA.

When starting out what batting average will I be expecting.

A what % of SA contacts will lead to off SA messaging.

Be what % of leads from messaging off SA leads to person meets.

See what % of initial meeting leads to ready to fuck.

Thanks for all thd contributions in this thread.

The percent conversation you get from initial contact is the largest falloff point. Vast majority of contacts just fizzle. I'the put it a bit higher than Midwestern did. Prob 5-10% come thru to a message. You can increase this with good text game. Make your opener interesting and try to mention something from their profile. Most responded to question is what color are your eyes? I only ask this when I can't tell but the response rate on this is nearly 100%.

Then as to be. Message to meet I'the say it's also small but that is partly my doing. I might talk seriously to five girls in a location and then decide on one or two. The key to text game is to ask questions. Anytime you just make a statement the conversation will end.

Now a few years into the game my closure rate is nearly 100%. Starting it will be less. The keys are to NEVER have a coffee date and always have drinks and take it to the room after dinner/drinks first night. I only date 21-26 years old. They are used to going out, drinking and fucking all the first night if they like a guy. So be fun and charismatic and say "want to get out of here" and take her to the hotel. Had a few fails my first year or two but once you get the hang you can close most every time (depending on game and looks. I am above average on both if I may say. But I am officially old. Hahaha).

[Midwestern]

I was very active on SA for about 20 months, and used it all over the USA.

For big cities, my batting average for finally meeting gals in person, out of the gals I contacted, was way less than 1%. Literally. The attractive and youngish gals are getting hundreds of messages from hundreds of guys each week, and maybe each day. They don't have time to reply to everyone, nor the time to obviously meet all of us. In addition, many are pretty lazy to meet up and some are actually busy with jobs or school or with life in general. But for smaller cities, my average was much better, probably above 1%.

But once we met in person, then my batting average for eventually doing the deed with them was probably around 70% (of which half happened at that first meet and the other half happened at the next meet). This part all depends on chemistry and your game. When I was active on SA, I was a decent looking guy, not fat, and I think I am normal. If I were using SA today, I am sure my success rate after the first meeting in person would be much lower. For some reason, I have gotten way uglier as I have gotten older. Probably all that drinking wasn't helpful for my looks.

For the guys have experience doing SA.

When starting out what batting average will I be expecting.

A what % of SA contacts will lead to off SA messaging.

Be what % of leads from messaging off SA leads to person meets.

See what % of initial meeting leads to ready to fuck.

Thanks for all thd contributions in this thread.