Seeking Arrangements

[Elvis 2008]

I would not listen to most of the guys on the Colombian page, most are very cheap and just angry dudes, in fact I would probably do the opposite. Same with some of the guys on CDMX, they are just jealous because you are not using there girls, and having more fun, but they claim they get no compensation. Do what makes you happy, do not listen to the haters.

The CDMX and Medellin forums are probably the worst. I like to keep abreast of what is going on in Colombia so I read them, but at one point, I got frustrated and made this post.

There is a culture on the Medellin forum, and you are asking for consistency in the results. And here is what the rules are:

1. All women are working girls.

2. The only thing women want us for is money.

3. Anyone sending any money to a Colombian woman for any reason is a sucker.

4. They want to spend time with their novios (boyfriends) not you.

5. The women in centro are as fine as anywhere else.

6. All Colombian women are scammers. A Colombian lawyer or doctor is just as likely to use scopolamine on you as a street girl.

7. Because the women really want to be with their novios, dress like a Colombian. You get better prices that way.

8. Anything over $15 or 60,000 COP and you massively overpaid.

9. All women are in equal demand.

10. All women in Medellin are equally beautiful and good in bed so paying more for one makes no sense.

One thing I can assure you of is that if you follow these rules you will be hugely disappointed and be fucking fat and ugly women which I guess is the point. The guys who cement this culture do not want anyone doing better than them.

Maybe it is because of the drug trade in the past, but Medellin certainly has more of a ho culture than other Colombian cities. That said, I met women there who knew about the ho culture and went out of their way to prove they were not part of it.

But anyone who wants a great time and to fuck truly beautiful and great performing women, you had best throw those 10 rules in the trash.

End.

Funny thing is this is from one one of the guys I was talking about.

Elvis had a list of straw men going and you took up the mantle. There's really no basis for pride in paying hookers, though hopefully one enjoys themselves. What I do is find casa and Centro strip club girls, enjoy them there, then ones I especially like I invite to a nice love motel in Laureles. And I'll say for the 1001st time, the Centro casa and strip club girls are from the same handful of lower tier neighborhoods as your "higher end" providers. It's all perception, maybe some nicer clothes for the latter but at the end of the day they are all the same. As to the bragging, I mostly see that from the guys paying more who think they have game, think they have a girlfriend, think it's smart to send Western Unions, think their girls are seeing fewer guys than most, whatever. It's your fantasy. Enjoy it.

This is typical writing on the Medellin forum. A guy trashes me and then agrees with much of what I wrote. LOL.

One weird / nice thing about Colombia is that the cities are rated on their wealth, and the rich ones pay higher taxes. And if you are looking for an arrangement, IMO it makes sense to focus on the women from nicer neighborhoods where long term means years not tomorrow.

All the "experts" on the Medellin forum are chasing women from an American neighborhood like Watts, Harlem, or the South side of Chicago. Not only do the guys on the forum not believe such women are available from the nicer places in Colombia, they call anyone a liar who believes they exist. Admitting that would knock them from their pedestal of being Colombia experts. That is why it is best to just shrug them off and ignore them if you are using seeking.

[Ggekko2009]

I would not listen to most of the guys on the Colombian page, most are very cheap and just angry dudes, in fact I would probably do the opposite.

Do what makes you happy, do not listen to the haters.

This actually turns out to be better. They stick to their own playground and I stay in my own play area without the need of any extra competition I guess. That's why I never want to discuss pricing in that forum since there are many egos at play. I do what I like that makes me happy.

Currently enjoying all these SA girls in Bogota. Time and energy are probably something that I might not have enough of.

[Midwestern]

Canada is interesting. Which cities would you suggest, though I reckon their ppm will not come cheap.

Try Niagara Falls and surrounding area. I was surprised at how active SA is there. Lots of hourly workers there, working in the tourism industry, and always looking for ways to make some extra cash.

[Midwestern]

So was in SFO and Sonoma this week and tried SA. Got some decent leads and a few wanted to meet. They made it very clear it was $800-1 K per meet. The lowest was at $500 and she was so DTF. The high priced girls were hot 8. 5-9. 0 but didn't want to chance it.

The $500 girl was a 6. 5-7 in real life. I was not attracted to her, but she made me horny with our conversation and drinking. So I brought her back to the room. 2 rounds, CIP both and face fuck between. She wanted to stay the whole night but I asked her to leave after 3 hrs. She was 40 yr, listed at 28, looked 40 in real life. She told me she was recently laid off and divorced, who knows. I believe it, because was intelligent and well dressed.

Didn't have time for more because of work. I think a hot escort would have been better.

I was most active on SA while I was living and working in SF. And yeah, there are lots of divorced women on there. They are struggling to pay their crazy high rent in the SF Bay area. I actually liked most of them. It was a nice change of pace. I found most divorced women to provde good GFE.

But SF is a craxy scene for SA. When I finally got to meet some of the SBs on there, they always told me that they get hundreds of messages a day on SA, and I believed them, given how active SA is in SF. The SDs don't have much of the upper hand.

I am curious if the AMP scene and the red light district scene are still active. I used to go to the AMPS about 3 times per week. Quality was really good.

[The Cane]

It is funny when you look at it that way. All the best mongering countries I have been to (Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, Colombia) are mostly Catholic. It looks like the only country and religion that can compete is Thailand and Buddhism. I never asked about religion when interviewing a SB. Maybe I should have. He he.

Brazil (Catholic) is my number one, but Germany (Protestant) is my number two. That said, the majority of the girls working in Germany are from eastern Europe bringing a mix of catholicism, protestantism, and eastern orthodoxy. I've even had Muslim poon tang over there! So, I guess you can get some of everything in Germany hehehe! By the way, my number two destination in Europe for a long time was Spain (solid Catholic). You're definitely on to it!

[Elvis 2008]

Canada is interesting. Which cities would you suggest, though I reckon their ppm will not come cheap.

Canada has weird prostitution laws. From what I gather, it is illegal to buy sex but not illegal to sell it. https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/other-autre/c36faq/.

The net effect though is that you have all these websites with women listing prices unlike the USA. Because of their weird law, there is not the stigma with selling yourself that the USA has. Still, I have to wonder how much enforcement of this law is going on. I doubt there is too much of it.

Thing is that you have USA prices in British Colombia but they go down the further you head East. I would not bother with anywhere but Toronto or Montreal then. Where I was getting the hits though was Montreal. Thing is they are escort agencies like Vogue, EscortsXO, and Euporia girls where you have stunningly beautiful women going for like $160 to $180 USA for an hour. Given that rate and there not being as much negative stigma with selling yourself for sex, I had several responses when I sent PMs to women in Montreal even very attractive ones. Thing is I was doing so well with the escorts I did not invest the time into SA at that point. It was not just the quality but when you go these agencies, you see dozens of stunning women, so the quantity is there as well.

Also, and this is just my opinion and you can take it for what it is worth, the women of Quebec are mostly of French origin and Catholic, and I saw more of that traditional female role in the women there which makes for a better sugar baby IMO. The women in Toronto are a melting pot from all over the world but the native Canadian women were cut from the same feminist thread as most American women. And this is women of protestant origin I guess. I felt a sense of tension with these women like they hated themselves for being escorts of sugar babies whereas the women of Quebec were pretty much always upbeat.

It is funny when you look at it that way. All the best mongering countries I have been to (Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, Colombia) are mostly Catholic. It looks like the only country and religion that can compete is Thailand and Buddhism. I never asked about religion when interviewing a SB. Maybe I should have. He he.

[DramaFree11]

LOL. Yeah, and I am getting shit in the Colombia forms because I spend $1200 total on my gal in Colombia for a month. And I know my girl is better looking and better in bed then anyone I would meet from the site in California. When I hear a girl is from California, I almost marked her off my list mentally because I assumed the amount she would want would be sky high.

The one good thing about California though is that it is close to Mexico. One other plus in the past was it used to be the capital of desirable porn stars but now like three in four porn stars are fat and asking for $2000. Occasionally you will see a porn star on SA, but I cannot imagine how much they would want now.

I would not listen to most of the guys on the Colombian page, most are very cheap and just angry dudes, in fact I would probably do the opposite. Same with some of the guys on CDMX, they are just jealous because you are not using there girls, and having more fun, but they claim they get no compensation. Do what makes you happy, do not listen to the haters.

[DramaFree11]

I have given up on the US. I have pretty good experiences in Colombia and having a blast with all these college girls now that many of them are on their break. Tempted to check out CDMX next time since there are some positive postings from some members. Canada is interesting. Which cities would you suggest, though I reckon their ppm will not come cheap.

M.

CDMX is the best, but more long term game. Just got from 4 days of so much fun. Heading back Saturday.

[The Cane]

I have given up on the US.

Me too. Although, I have only used it in the US LOL! And traveling overseas, I doubt I would use Seeking in favor of other things I already know that I like, and that work for me. But, with respect to this, never say never!

[Ggekko2009]

If things are not going well for you in the USA, try fishing in a different pond. Not only did I get great leads in Mexico, I was talking with some hotties in Canada. That country might be worth looking at more now that the Covid hysteria is down.

I have given up on the US. I have pretty good experiences in Colombia and having a blast with all these college girls now that many of them are on their break. Tempted to check out CDMX next time since there are some positive postings from some members. Canada is interesting. Which cities would you suggest, though I reckon their ppm will not come cheap.

[Elvis 2008]

I keep getting girls from SA who would proclaim that they were either robbed, drained of funds, etc etc at a statistically high frequency. A ploy to try play into your pity with the hope of soliciting help. Yeah right.

In any case, this is the time when I would have my spidey sense up and either ignore them completely or block their sorry ass.

I know that there are times in the USA that I would get so few hits that helping one of these women was something I considered. It is always a bad idea. You may as well flush your money down the toilet. IMO if they ask for money up front, you block them and move on to the next. If things are not going well for you in the USA, try fishing in a different pond. Not only did I get great leads in Mexico, I was talking with some hotties in Canada. That country might be worth looking at more now that the Covid hysteria is down.

[Elvis 2008]

So was in SFO and Sonoma this week and tried SA. Got some decent leads and a few wanted to meet. They made it very clear it was $800-1 K per meet. The lowest was at $500 and she was so DTF. The high priced girls were hot 8. 5-9. 0 but didn't want to chance it.

LOL. Yeah, and I am getting shit in the Colombia forms because I spend $1200 total on my gal in Colombia for a month. And I know my girl is better looking and better in bed then anyone I would meet from the site in California. When I hear a girl is from California, I almost marked her off my list mentally because I assumed the amount she would want would be sky high.

The one good thing about California though is that it is close to Mexico. One other plus in the past was it used to be the capital of desirable porn stars but now like three in four porn stars are fat and asking for $2000. Occasionally you will see a porn star on SA, but I cannot imagine how much they would want now.

[Ggekko2009]

I keep getting girls from SA who would proclaim that they were either robbed, drained of funds, etc etc at a statistically high frequency. A ploy to try play into your pity with the hope of soliciting help. Yeah right.

In any case, this is the time when I would have my spidey sense up and either ignore them completely or block their sorry ass.

[GoingDumb]

IMO it's all about confidence and charisma. When I was in my thirties I looked better but probably had about 25% of the confidence and charisma I have now later in life. And it develops more and more with each date. I think back to my early first 10-20 dates and how I was much more unsure. And while the dates generally went well I couldn't sweep a girl off her feet like I can now. I can think of five dates offhand that would have gone totally differently if the current me was on those dates.

A couple other thoughts. Just let it flow and don't give one fuck about what others think. Like dancing. I used to be intimidated to be at a club with a ton of twenty somethings and dancing with my girl. Thifany changed my life. Now I dance like a madman with no fucks to give and girls love being a part of that confidence. Just go for it and don't look back.

Second I highly recommend Nanpa (Japanese pick up game) to increase your confidence. Just search "Attraction Japan Playbook". I learned so much about how women think and how to flow a date and stuff that now is second nature. And honestly it's not like some set of slick moves where you are tricking a girl or something. It's just adjusting your style in a way that women find very attractive.

Hope this helps some.

P.S. for all: No more OT STD talk please? Let's focus on those amazing SBs!

Thanks, I'll look into nanpa. I'll be in london the next few weeks and have been hitting up girls but it's a lot of work. May just use diva instead since you've recommended so many steve.

[FastMdSter]

So was in SFO and Sonoma this week and tried SA. Got some decent leads and a few wanted to meet. They made it very clear it was $800-1 K per meet. The lowest was at $500 and she was so DTF. The high priced girls were hot 8. 5-9. 0 but didn't want to chance it.

The $500 girl was a 6. 5-7 in real life. I was not attracted to her, but she made me horny with our conversation and drinking. So I brought her back to the room. 2 rounds, CIP both and face fuck between. She wanted to stay the whole night but I asked her to leave after 3 hrs. She was 40 yr, listed at 28, looked 40 in real life. She told me she was recently laid off and divorced, who knows. I believe it, because was intelligent and well dressed.

Didn't have time for more because of work. I think a hot escort would have been better.