Seeking Arrangements

[LshRoomer]

Some places are definitely better for SA than others. I let loose the wins and the losses alike.

I was in Orlando for business for 4 days. In traditional fashion, I activated my membership and started messaging about 7 days before arrival. I started probably around noonish and after sending out quite a few messages I was surprised that an hour had gone by and I only got like one reply and it wasn't very good. Very little views and in general, it was far less than what I'm used to. After chekcing the site the next day, there were replies, but none were very interesting. It's like I was fighting an uphill battle with the girls resisting the whole way.

Conversations would start, then after 2 exchanges no answer, ghosted or blocked. It felt like the dynamic was such that the girls felt they were in control and wanted to maintain that power dynamic. Very different vibe than in other parts of the world. Of the many girls that I spoke to, I was able to pull 5 or so out of the water.

The madness:

Girl1:

She wanted to meet the first day that I messaged her, but I wasnt' in town. After I arrived, she wouldn't respond to any messages. Ghosted.

Girl2:

Brazilian girl that gave me her number in her first response. Her profile only showed her ass. When we moved over to texting, she asked me to send her some of my pics. I usually comply and don't have a problem with this. It's a fair trade. In this case, being as though you can see me on my profile (with glasses) yet on hers, you can only see her ass, I asked her to send me a pic so I can see her face. She refused and said "you first". After two rounds of this, I got a little irritated and stopped texting. SBs usually don't' behave like this, escorts do.

Girl3:

Had a great conversation and she was down. She want three see notes and the deal was set. She lived about 40 minutes from where I was staying which makes an hour and twenty minute round trip commute during rush hour. I had a team dinner with my Director that was around 8 ish. We were talking around 5 and I didn't want to risk being late, so I didn't' go and told her that the timing just doesn't work out and maybe we should try the next day. Initially she said okay. Then she wrote back an hour later and said that my dinner was "optional" (I never said that) and that she doesn't understand why it takes 3 hours to hookup. She said SA is a hookup site and I was wasting her time. Keep in mind that I offered to Uber her to me in order to save time and she said it was too far and that she wanted to chill with her cousins around 730/800; also that traffic was going to be pretty bad. This is def not the type of selfish girl I'm looking for and in my case, I'm not looking for just a hookup. I need the SB package.

Girl 4:

We spoke for a couple days and she seemed promising. She works three jobs but was going to make time for me one of the nights. I like the thin EU spinner type. Her body was thicker than I'm used to but, it was still acceptable in the pics, so I figured I'd give it a try. She asked me to come by her job to see her so I did and as soon as she walked up I could see that the pics lied. I mean they really lied. She had a big ass, sloppy tits and generally was fluffy. I don't want skin and bones, but I'm not into the fluff. Besides that, she was busy with work and told me that she wanted to hookup with her friends after work. I was kind of expecting to hang out together and then head back to my place. I left and went back to the hotel. She texted me several times since then, but my interest is gone. I don't want the mom body that hasn't spent a day in the gym. I take care of myself and I kinda expect the same.

Girl5:

Looks were a 5, but her body was a 7. 5 based on the pics. We moved to text after 3 exchanges and she was right to the point. She wanted 3 see notes and was very forward from the begnning. She told me that she does eat ass and doesn't like cum in her mouth or on her face. This was totally unsolicited as I never mentioned any of them. I was still trying to find out what she liked to do for fun. LOL. We met at a hookah lounge and as she walks up I am immediately disappointed. The face was busted, her thighs were thick (not in a good way), ass was flat, and generally had no sex appeal. I couldn't even bribe my dick to give it a shot. You know like, "Hey buddy, I know this one is really bad, but it you do this one, I'll give you that russian blonde from Madrid that you like. " LOL LOL. What made it worse was revealed when I sat next to her. She had really really bad breath. I have never smelled breath that bad on a girl before. It was disgusting. She then went on to tell me that she spends all day drinking and smoking and making money, but at the same time she was very excited to start a new job at Dunkin Donuts. She told me how crazy she is and that her legs sometimes go numb without warning. My first thought was how are you able to drive? I was scared as hell getting in the car with her. I had to end the night early, as it truly was that bad.

This was my experience over the weekend. Now in stark contrast, I browsed some profiles in Frankfurt and Madrid (just to check out the talent) as I will be there in the coming months. I didn't send any messages, and I already have more than 10 views and about 8 messages within about 2 hours. I haven't even tried yet! My experience keeps showing over and over that SA (for me) works waaaay better in EU than in the US. Just my experience, and it's definitely not a definitive statement.

Be safe out there guys and good luck.

[Steve 9696]

Being with Shayla for a couple months now (off and on) I am concluding I've never been with a truly horny girl before. Yes been with girls that def enjoy sex. But never one who got turned on so quickly and just doesn't want to stop. I guess Jade was damn close with her "you can fuck me all night baby if you want" line. She was a hot mess also.

But damn Shayla is a beast. Like you start kissing and it's light stuff. Maybe LFK at best and you are wondering, does she really like to kiss? She starts off this way every time. Then you get her going by sucking her tits. She starts moaning and is wet as Niagara Falls in like 30 seconds flat. And starts kissing like she will eat your face. After we fuck she literally has juice running down her thighs. And the other night after fucking for like 30 minutes I am near the edge so I say "babe I want to cum in your mouth" and she says "ummmm just a few more strokes it feels so good" and continues on a bit before giving me a shattering CIM and swallow.

Never met anyone like her. Counting my blessings. Who's the horniest beast you have ever been with?

[AsianPursuits]

Anyone have a similar experiences and suggestion for a fix?

A) clear your browser cache.

If pain persists.

B) clear your browser cookies.

[WyattEarp]

Yes, FWB as Gekko said. I was being a bit dramatic, that not only FWB phrase is banned but even the individual letters f, w, and be are banned. But you get my gist.

P.S. For some reason, this site changes my be to be. Also S to yes. Autospell correct? Not due to my phone.

Oh my bad. My eyes were locked in on F and b.

And for some reason, this site does have an awkward auto-editor. I think it will strangely auto-edit USA and other abbreviations.

[Pessimist]

I must be getting old because I have no idea what W is.

Yes, FWB as Gekko said. I was being a bit dramatic, that not only FWB phrase is banned but even the individual letters f, w, and be are banned. But you get my gist.

P.S. For some reason, this site changes my be to be. Also S to yes. Autospell correct? Not due to my phone.

[Ggekko2009]

I must be getting old because I have no idea what W is.

I think he meant to say, FWB, Friend with Benefits.

[WyattEarp]

This explains why SA is happily tolerating the umpteen number of obvious scammers posing as girls but shuts down a dude's account after he paid $240 for 3 months if he so much as mentioned the letters F, W, and be in the same sentence. Any whiff of paid sex might lead it to be shut down while the Feds will never shut it down even if it is crawling with a million scammers.

I must be getting old because I have no idea what W is.

[Globo]

Last night I was logged out of SA. I tried to log back in, enter my google authentication and a screen pops up for one second saying my location or device changed and to reverify. This only appears for a second and I was able to click on the confirm button twice but the browser refreshes to the login screen with a message to say I was logged out.

I have tried a few times but happens on mobile and different desktop browsers.

Anyone have a similar experiences and suggestion for a fix?

[Pessimist]

Thanks to you and Pessimist for this feedback. I was excited for a minute there, until I realized that they are probably operated by a bunch of amateurs. It does not have a few good features like the video verification and seems to have quite a list of SBs, but other than that, everything else is just meh.

Case in point:

- They only accept bitcoin to buy their credit. However there is no way to do so other than being told to contact their support team. Ok, how to contact their support team? That info is completely missing. If anyone wants to run any viable business, that is something they should pay attention to. I am surprised they are still kicking. Not even sure if they are on life-support..

That's because these sites are insanely profitable. Match group margins were nearly 30% and revenues stretching into 3+ billions and its margins would be much higher if it was not spending so much money on increasing its subscriber count. Seeking charges $90 a month while tinder charges less than 100 now for A year of Platinum. And unlike match which spends tons of money marketing on search engines and other places, seeking spends far far less. I would be shocked if seeking margins are Less than 50%. There are hardly any new features. Don't think they are paying a thousand developers to write code adding new features. It is a pure cash cow.

I am sure other sugar daddy sites have far fewer members but they probably have nice profitability as well. Costs are minimal once you get up to a certain scale.

So, they will keep going, make sure they are not shut down by authorities. This explains why SA is happily tolerating the umpteen number of obvious scammers posing as girls but shuts down a dude's account after he paid $240 for 3 months if he so much as mentioned the letters F, W, and be in the same sentence. Any whiff of paid sex might lead it to be shut down while the Feds will never shut it down even if it is crawling with a million scammers.

That is another peeve, that our government and law think scammers are an ok part of our society but a man paying for sex has to be silenced immediately.

[Ggekko2009]

It's more than just a waste of time and money. It's a scam. I have a close girl friend (not girlfriend) who is 24 and on the prowl for SDs. (We didn't work out) And what we found is that it's sending out her "interest" to various guys at random. Including me. Then the guy punches on her because she's interested (she's not!) and he pays $6. So every one of these "interested" girls is really just the system spamming you to get your $$ AVOID.

Thanks to you and Pessimist for this feedback. I was excited for a minute there, until I realized that they are probably operated by a bunch of amateurs. It does not have a few good features like the video verification and seems to have quite a list of SBs, but other than that, everything else is just meh.

Case in point:

- They only accept bitcoin to buy their credit. However there is no way to do so other than being told to contact their support team. Ok, how to contact their support team? That info is completely missing. If anyone wants to run any viable business, that is something they should pay attention to. I am surprised they are still kicking. Not even sure if they are on life-support.

- No SBs outside the US. WTF. I already dislike my experience trying to connect with all these SBs in the US. With no option to search for SBs outside the US, this service is definitely a no-no for me.

- Crap, they don't even have the option to delete my account. I am just going to remove as much information as possible and making it unsearchable in the meantime.

[NeilGeorge]

It's more than just a waste of time and money. It's a scam. I have a close girl friend (not girlfriend) who is 24 and on the prowl for SDs. (We didn't work out) And what we found is that it's sending out her "interest" to various guys at random. Including me. Then the guy punches on her because she's interested (she's not!) and he pays $6. So every one of these "interested" girls is really just the system spamming you to get your $$ AVOID.

I have stopped playing with SA now for 2 months and have been most happy. Only scammers, girls who want money before meeting, no shows, girls wanting to sell photos, onlyfan subscriptions, etc. Its worthless now.

[Steve 9696]

Has anyone ever used sugardaddy dot com? Is it a good alternative to SA? They seem to rely on credit system instead of a hefty monthly fee like SA.

Looks like the locations are limited to USA only. I cannot seem to search for any cities outside the US. I would like to hear from anyone who has used this platform on their experiences with it.

It's more than just a waste of time and money. It's a scam. I have a close girl friend (not girlfriend) who is 24 and on the prowl for SDs. (We didn't work out) And what we found is that it's sending out her "interest" to various guys at random. Including me. Then the guy punches on her because she's interested (she's not!) and he pays $6. So every one of these "interested" girls is really just the system spamming you to get your $$ AVOID.

[WyattEarp]

Sorry, missed your post.

I think NSA and discretion are ok, no? They don't connote sex in anyway. NSA simply is an equivalent of at will employment? That neither the dude nor the girl are exclusive to each other, nor obligated into any long term arrangement? Discretion is just wanting to keep it quiet, I. E. No movie dates, or at highly visible restaurants etc.

The thing is, the above are my interpretations of the law, but I am not a lawyer. And when it comes to SA, what is provable in a court of law is important but we don't want to even get to that level. So, I am with you that it is prudent to cut out any words and phrases that smack of paid sex.

I wasn't trying to make a point really. I just wanted your take and other's take on various Seeking descriptors. While NSA and Discretion don't connote sex, they do connote zero attachment in the relationship and something we have to keep secret respectively. If a girl was willing to provide transactional sex, that would be a good start. Some of the descriptors certainly seem to imply the opposite.

As I mentioned, some of the photo sets and the poses certainly seem provocative beyond a casual beach or boat shot.

Just curious to know if members here look for certain signals on a women's profile.

[AmericanPi]

On behalf of everyone on this totally anonymous forum where you're anonymous and everyone is and there's no need to be coy: when you say you overstepped and things went so crazy, what are we talking about here?

Had another meeting with my total unicorn of an utterly wild, crazy SB. We did some things and pushed some limits that left us feeling a little. Dazed and me very guilty.

It's hard not to overstep in the moment because she is so submissive and we've agreed in future to set limits with unclouded minds. She isn't upset we did what we did, she just doesn't feel she can cope with it emotionally regularly and I've felt like a total prick for pushing things that far. Still, she feels like what happened was a mutual thing. We egg each other on.

Very very fond of this girl. But we've both agreed we're bad for each other at this current moment in time. I've told her I'm leaving the UK (hopefully in the next few days) for a month or so.

If she's still around when I return (I've told her I seriously would like to hear she's found the dream sugar daddy she needs or preferably sorts her life out and gets out of this), I want try and meet her in a more sustainable way for both of us..

[Pessimist]

Has anyone ever used sugardaddy dot com? Is it a good alternative to SA? They seem to rely on credit system instead of a hefty monthly fee like SA.

Looks like the locations are limited to USA only. I cannot seem to search for any cities outside the US. I would like to hear from anyone who has used this platform on their experiences with it.

I have and sites that use such credit systems are not worth it. Steve tried recently and came to the same conclusion. You can give it a shot to scratch the itch but in the end, I'm afraid you will probably agree with that view. Your Bill's run up too much too quickly, the long and short of it.