Seeking Arrangements

[J Janni]

Straw poll. Does anyone believe a beautiful, doe-eyed brunette 5'2 95 lbs 19 year old with a drum-taut body is a virgin? Literally, the girl we all dream of getting into bed. The girl who would have been amongst the hottest girls at your school / college uni.

I don't. And I'm so not after a virgin.

[J Janni]

Think you are after exactly what is my sweet spot girl who wants to be treated nice and will fuck you if things go well at dinner. I've even had three that balked at the room but managed to fuck two out of three. LOL. (And 28 that went to room smoothly). And yeah agree. Want to undress slowly. A little seduction it's all part of it.

I'the suggest you go to a nice dinner. You drink a lot. You laugh a lot. Next you know she's your girlfriend for the night. Try to go to hotel that night while you have momentum. Don't let it sag over to a second date.

For these girls you can't talk sex and cip and all that. You going to treat them like a date during the SA pickup. Same as you would a girl in a bar. And you will find the right type.

I think you may be right. In fact I'm almost certain you are. I am chatting to some girls like that. The 18/19/20 year old stunners you need to go softly-softly with and would run a mile at explicit sex talk early on. Sorting out the logistics of meeting with a couple of very gorgeous girls. And actually, one 28 year old single mum who I've been having great banter and conversations with, who keeps surprising me with very tastefully sexy pics at just the right moment. Not as pretty or nubile as the ideal, but her personality and ability to turn me on bumps her way up.

HOWEVER. I do have a couple of girls I'm very interested in who are agreeing to BBFSCIP if things go well over a coffee, who are almost as attractive as the Tier 1 girls. If they don't suddenly turn into content sellers or deposit / transport scammers (which I think is highly likely) or complete flakes (highly likely), I'd like to explore it.

I think more than likely I'll end up chasing your sweet spot and have to expend some time, effort and money without guaranteed results.

[Steve 9696]

Met 29 year old leggy single mum today. She matched her pictures (and the videocall duh) so it wasn't a bait and switch. Coining a new phrase, 'getting escorted' - when an SB turns out to actually just be an escort. Some redflags I overlooked wilfully as she was the most convenient girl (close, took my first offer, could meet almost immediately, could host. Which are mostly all redflags themselves) such as wanting to communicate on Kik rather than Whatsapp. With the benefit of hindsight, it was all obvious.

I think she does her business on Seeking exclusively. I can't find a profile in the area that matches her even slightly anywhere else.

Got her place, knocked on the door. And she answered in a dressing gown with just underwear underneath and I immediately knew she was an escort. She took my initial pause as shyness. When really it was an internal debate between my brain 'this isn't what you wanted from SA' and my dick 'you're here, she's hot, why not?

Inside, sit on the couch, cup of tea, perfunctory chat about bollocks where she threw up more redflags to her escorty nature, mostly financial. After maybe 5-10 minutes, at her suggestion, 'Shall we go upstairs?' (and asked for the money. I hadn't immediately handed it over as I was still mentally debating leaving).

Handed it over and went upstairs. Typical escort start, light French kissing (did deepen properly when I succeeded in getting her worked up), blowjob, ok sex, breather, ok sex. Nothing to write home about. Got stage managed out in a way that was far too slick, parted after spending about 2. 5 hours there. I've paid more for far less time with a less attractive girl, so I'm not all cut up about the experience.

Just not what I was looking for on SA. That 'seducing' feeling of the slow escalation of a non-P4 p sexual encounter. If I'm cheeky enough to send her a post match review, I'll suggest she actually wears clothes next time, allows the guy to make the first move and start activities on the couch rather than the change of venue before we've even touched.

I've cancelled with the girl for tomorrow. I suspect it would be more of the same (though as we're meeting at a hotel, at least she'd wear clothes. Am I alone in thinking the slow undressing is a great part of the experience? Hate turning up to see an escort and having her meet me the typical lingerie, stockings and heels.).

Going to try one of the girls a level up who've agreed on a 'coffee / drink, chat and if we're comfortable, to a hotel' to see if that offers the experience I'm looking for. If that's a bust, I might actually have to try one of the girls who won't fuck on the first date.

Think you are after exactly what is my sweet spot girl who wants to be treated nice and will fuck you if things go well at dinner. I've even had three that balked at the room but managed to fuck two out of three. LOL. (And 28 that went to room smoothly). And yeah agree. Want to undress slowly. A little seduction it's all part of it.

I'the suggest you go to a nice dinner. You drink a lot. You laugh a lot. Next you know she's your girlfriend for the night. Try to go to hotel that night while you have momentum. Don't let it sag over to a second date.

For these girls you can't talk sex and cip and all that. You going to treat them like a date during the SA pickup. Same as you would a girl in a bar. And you will find the right type.

Still congrats on ur first closure. Two rounds and 2.5 hours beats an hourly girl. Even if it felt a bit escortish. There are worse things. But U can def find the right girl if u take the right approach.

[Ruch888]

All this back and forth got me pretty damn horny, so on the theory that a pussy in hand is worth two in the Bush as girls are flakey.

Got a date lined up for tomorrow. Tall, slim, pretty brunette. 29. It's 150 ppm but unlike the other girl, she can host so it keeps the cost down. Depends on how it goes, I might pie off the Sunday date.

For anyone contemplating looking into SBs in the UK and concerned about the hotel thing, there's a couple of websites dayrooms.com and dayuse. Co. Uk. You can book a hotel room in the day all over the country. Nothing to pay upfront, occupy from 10 am - 5 pm, cancel by up to mid-day on the day of the booking and pay no fee (not sure how they'd collect a fee if you cancelled after / no showed as they don't have my card details. Maybe just blacklist you if you don't pay). 50% cheaper than overnight rate. My experience so far with SA is it definitely doesn't need to be the trips abroad, fine dining and expensive hotels it might first appear to be.

Even the teen stunners I've floated the idea with seem happy to PPM and straight to a hotel during the day. Whether they'd flake or not remains to be seen.

Thanks for the recommendation I'm in the UK now going to use this site for my sugar dates. What is the average Ppm you're doing? I see 150 £ for the mum I guess? The averages I'm getting are 400-600 for some good ones. Is it because I'm not local and the babes feel that they can take advantage of me being a foreigner? Or is that the standard In London.

[J Janni]

Met 29 year old leggy single mum today. She matched her pictures (and the videocall duh) so it wasn't a bait and switch. Coining a new phrase, 'getting escorted' - when an SB turns out to actually just be an escort. Some redflags I overlooked wilfully as she was the most convenient girl (close, took my first offer, could meet almost immediately, could host. Which are mostly all redflags themselves) such as wanting to communicate on Kik rather than Whatsapp. With the benefit of hindsight, it was all obvious.

I think she does her business on Seeking exclusively. I can't find a profile in the area that matches her even slightly anywhere else.

Got her place, knocked on the door. And she answered in a dressing gown with just underwear underneath and I immediately knew she was an escort. She took my initial pause as shyness. When really it was an internal debate between my brain 'this isn't what you wanted from SA' and my dick 'you're here, she's hot, why not?

Inside, sit on the couch, cup of tea, perfunctory chat about bollocks where she threw up more redflags to her escorty nature, mostly financial. After maybe 5-10 minutes, at her suggestion, 'Shall we go upstairs?' (and asked for the money. I hadn't immediately handed it over as I was still mentally debating leaving).

Handed it over and went upstairs. Typical escort start, light French kissing (did deepen properly when I succeeded in getting her worked up), blowjob, ok sex, breather, ok sex. Nothing to write home about. Got stage managed out in a way that was far too slick, parted after spending about 2. 5 hours there. I've paid more for far less time with a less attractive girl, so I'm not all cut up about the experience.

Just not what I was looking for on SA. That 'seducing' feeling of the slow escalation of a non-P4 p sexual encounter. If I'm cheeky enough to send her a post match review, I'll suggest she actually wears clothes next time, allows the guy to make the first move and start activities on the couch rather than the change of venue before we've even touched.

I've cancelled with the girl for tomorrow. I suspect it would be more of the same (though as we're meeting at a hotel, at least she'd wear clothes. Am I alone in thinking the slow undressing is a great part of the experience? Hate turning up to see an escort and having her meet me the typical lingerie, stockings and heels.).

Going to try one of the girls a level up who've agreed on a 'coffee / drink, chat and if we're comfortable, to a hotel' to see if that offers the experience I'm looking for. If that's a bust, I might actually have to try one of the girls who won't fuck on the first date.

[Steve 9696]

Here is the follow up full FR on Liz. Great reminder in so many ways. One. Girls from years ago will still be ready to fuck you if you treated them right. Just because it's transactional to start doesn't mean it can't blossom. Sometimes going against type can be ok or even good. So much is the girl and her attitude.

I met Liz about two years ago on SA. The first meet was quite memorable because there was some mixup on timing and we only had a very short window. So we meet at the bar and have one quick drink and I can feel the sex-time clock ticking down.

So I say "want to get out if here?" And she is a bit taken aback and says "wow you're really confident aren't you?" To which I reply "Yep. Let's go. " And off we go to the hotel next door. Damn, alcohol can be your friend those words just came out of my mouth without a thought and damn if she didn't just follow me and get it on! And here we are two years later meeting up in earnest after perhaps two or three direct to hotel meets two years ago.

So Liz is fun because she's pretty straightforward (used to be a stripper) but not my type physically (eye color, skin tone etc) but a very pretty girl. After finding nothing better I felt like I was just settling for her. But that was flat out wrong! In the end it was a whale of a time with an awesome vibe and definitely to be repeated.

We had some restaurant snafu but eventually found a place that we both enjoyed. She confessed she'the been swigging wine from her purse to loosen up a bit. And we added Sake to the mix during dinner. Pretty reasonable date and the conversation flowed easily. She ran into a friend who works as a waitress there but she took it like a champ. LOL.

We bopped back to the hotel and up to the room. Because this was not a hometown date and we already knew each other there was really no rush. So I broke out the Tito's and Sprite (her request-I always keep my girl happy in the drinks dept) and we sat cross legged on the bed and just shot the shit and drank for prob a half hour.

I tend to get bold and frisky when I drink so as she's chatting away I just start taking off her sweater. Pretty soon that is off then the rest and we are both naked standing and making out. The kissing is a bit less tongue than I prefer but that will change once I get her cranked up.

She's quite tatted up as it turns out having gotten quite a few these last two years. She now has a full sleeve which I have to say is frankly badass awesome. (I know some guys don't like tattoos but if you travel to Brasil you better learn to love them and I have). She's a bit heavier than I prefer some Covid pounds but still nice and smooth and shapely more thick than fat.

So we get the party started by me easing her down on her back at the edge of the bed with my face positioned between her legs. Damn she has a beautiful pussy not quite like any other I've see. And I've seen a few! It's like a flower with lots of petals. No big pronounced lips but lots of little waves and folds. Quite beautiful to look at and dive into.

I remember last time she didn't like fingering and we had discussed that on text. So gentleman that I am I say "I'm trying to remember what you like." and she says "whatever you want to do is fine with me!" Nice. It's on.

So I dive in for some lengthy DATY including some tentative fingering followed by the full on treatment as she warms up. After satisfying her well, I move up to kiss her and now we are full on tongue tangled macking. Just needed a warm up.

And so we head to BBBJ. I'm starting to position myself on my back and she says "don't you want me on my knees?" Wow aren't you the submissive vixen. Damn straight I do! I throw a pillow on the floor for her to kneel and she appreciates my consideration.

Wow that girl can give some head. Occupational hazard of being a stripper I suppose. Later riding cowgirl she says riding all those strip club laps honed her game. LOL. The BJ is very very good with plenty of BLS. She does something that strangely I have never had before which is at one point she will lean back letting my entire cock leave her mouth then lean forward to a deep throat then lean back again. Basically like a mouth fucking but where your cock exits and re-enters every stroke. Was pretty mind blowing.

After a bunch of this (20 minutes?) I am ready to fuck. I comment on how I luv BJ so much and don't want to stop but just get this powerful urge to fuck and she says same exact with her. So on goes the cover and I position her in my fave position. Just going to start calling this the Steve. On her back. Pussy at edge of bed. Me standing. Insert and let the magic begin. The Steve. We have her tunes on and I get a good rhythm going.

Man we fuck like this forever. I can't remember exactly what she said but it reminded me of Jade who said "You can fuck me all night if you want baby". Very similar comment and in fact I think in total I have never fucked so much in one evening as that night.

After a while we switch to Cowgirl and she is very very good. Blue ribbon baby. I feel like I might cum after a long ride but prefer to finish by mouth and ask her same. She says sure.

So I go to stand in front of the pillow I put down for her to kneel on. She gets up grabs the pillow and chucks it and says "pillows are for pussys!" And gets down bare knees on carpet to suck me off. LOL. Luv that baby. Like your dirty girl style! And it's another long BBBJ to a CIM and swallow finish. A goodly mouthful but she swallows it all.

Lots of drinking and cuddling follows. I get the full tattoo tour plus who knows what we talk about. Surely a half hour as I recover. I get pretty frisky when drinking so on returning from the bathroom I climb on the bed on all fours and go get over top of her like a dog and start kissing her. And damn she warms up quickly. Super comfy now I roll her on her back and get between her legs and say she has such a small clit and it’s quite buried in there. So we root around for a bit and find it. LOL and do some more DATY and then head for some more amazingly long fucking sessions.

Oh round two is a bit foggy but def did the Steve and doggy and more BJ and geez I dunno. Finish with an epic 10+ minute BJ really sloppy with lots of hands on balls and bam. Another CIM swallow.

After relaxing a bit she's got the munchies and is talking about getting an Uber to get some hamburgers at this amazing Late night bar and grill. I say shit I'll just drive you and we can go together and she is all over that. We've moved from transactional to super BFGF and really enjoy each other. So we have some epic late night burgers and I drive her home. A full 6 hours from start to finish. Really nice relaxed experience. Def repeat. She's a whale of a good time.

[WyattEarp]

I've got maybe four categories I've mentally put the girls (that aren't / probably aren't video sellers / scammers) into;.

Escorts. Probably have an AdultWork account or if they don't, they should. They're after 200+ppm and have a list of dos and donts. Bareback is a definite no go, like it would be with most of the girls on Adultwork if you ask for it straight up, out of the blue.

Absolute skanks. They're offering it up at 100-150 ppm. Drunks, drunk addicts, fat an / or fuck ugly!

Semi-pro kinda girls. Newish to the game, maybe hurting for short term money, mid-tier attractiveness, think there's probably a difference between them and a straight up escort. Probably not aware of their 'worth' yet. Condom use outside of the P4 p world isn't as prevalent as you might think so it isn't an absolute 'no' with these girls to fuck without a condom. Generally I find they're biting at 150 ppm or 200 ppm.

Proper SBs (the ones I'm interested in anyway) - Teen, early twenties, pretty as fuck stunners with perfect bodies. Aware of how the game is played, so will take PPM if you play it right. Generally going for 200-250+ppm.

I ditch the first two categories on discovery, focus on the second;..

I think you're giving Steve9696 ideas and he's going to set up his SA shop in London. You might want to claim the Midlands and Northward for yourself. LOL.

[J Janni]

All this back and forth got me pretty damn horny, so on the theory that a pussy in hand is worth two in the Bush as girls are flakey.

Got a date lined up for tomorrow. Tall, slim, pretty brunette. 29. It's 150 ppm but unlike the other girl, she can host so it keeps the cost down. Depends on how it goes, I might pie off the Sunday date.

For anyone contemplating looking into SBs in the UK and concerned about the hotel thing, there's a couple of websites dayrooms.com and dayuse. Co. Uk. You can book a hotel room in the day all over the country. Nothing to pay upfront, occupy from 10 am - 5 pm, cancel by up to mid-day on the day of the booking and pay no fee (not sure how they'd collect a fee if you cancelled after / no showed as they don't have my card details. Maybe just blacklist you if you don't pay). 50% cheaper than overnight rate. My experience so far with SA is it definitely doesn't need to be the trips abroad, fine dining and expensive hotels it might first appear to be.

Even the teen stunners I've floated the idea with seem happy to PPM and straight to a hotel during the day. Whether they'd flake or not remains to be seen.

[J Janni]

Man, wouldn't you be a little worried if any gal agreed to BBFSCIP from the very beginning? Any new girl that agrees to that from the very beginning, then it suggests that she is doing it with lots of others. It kind of indicates that she does not place any value on herself and on her life and is indifferent if she dies from a risk or a disease.

I love BBFS, but I can almost never get it from a new gal right away, but after the gal becomes familar with me, feels safe with me, and kind of even likes me, (and this might take months), she might eventually let me bareback her. Just last week, I finally barebacked someone that I've been doing covered sex with for a couple of years. We were making out passionately, and before she knew what was going on, I slipped my uncovered cock into her, and she freaked out, but after a minute of my reassuring her and gently comforting her, she relented. So, given that it took a couple of years to get to this point, I feel like I kind of earned it. A few days ago, I saw her again, and this time we just went straight to bareback. It does not always take this long to bareback someone of course. Sometimes it only took me a few months, and in a few rare cases it only took me a few dates. But eventually, I am able to bareback most gals if I want to, even though almost all of them adamantly refused barebacking from the beginning.

And so, my point is, maybe just gradually and patiently ease into it, and not ask for it right away.

I'm a serial non-monogamist which is why I'm in this hobby. By the second or third session, I'm losing interest. Give me Keira Knightley all holes, all night long, bareback and she pays me. The second session isn't as good as the first and by the third, I'm planning on how to ditch her. It will never beat the thrill of getting a new girl's knickers off, discovering what she's like in bed, seeing (if it isn't discussed up front) whether I'm 'smooth' to get it to happen in the room, slide in there and cum inside her.

With the girls I've got upfront agreements from, I'm selective. And it might sound like I've made getting the agreement easy, but it's taken a lot of chatting, videocalls etc with the girls I might actually go and see. In person, I'd back away if there was anything suspicious to put me off.

Am I naïve enough to think I'd be the only one they're doing it with? No. But I think they're probably getting a different class of clientele and lower footfall than the Thai and Filipina hookers guys on here are happily barebacking.

So yeah, I try to be selective, take Prep and doxy prophylactically, test frequently (can do it by post for free in the UK. Protip, tell sexual health clinics / online government services in the UK you're a gay bottom hooker, you get the red carpet haha) and just accept my level of risk.

Basically, you're using SA properly and how it's designed. I'm looking for great one off experiences with girls you just don't get in the escort scene in the UK, with that no rushed and practically no limits (these girls don't come with a list of 'nos' like the pro girls) feel.

Ethics of it are definitely up for debate.

[Midwestern]

Man, wouldn't you be a little worried if any gal agreed to BBFSCIP from the very beginning? Any new girl that agrees to that from the very beginning, then it suggests that she is doing it with lots of others. It kind of indicates that she does not place any value on herself and on her life and is indifferent if she dies from a risk or a disease.

I love BBFS, but I can almost never get it from a new gal right away, but after the gal becomes familar with me, feels safe with me, and kind of even likes me, (and this might take months), she might eventually let me bareback her. Just last week, I finally barebacked someone that I've been doing covered sex with for a couple of years. We were making out passionately, and before she knew what was going on, I slipped my uncovered cock into her, and she freaked out, but after a minute of my reassuring her and gently comforting her, she relented. So, given that it took a couple of years to get to this point, I feel like I kind of earned it. A few days ago, I saw her again, and this time we just went straight to bareback. It does not always take this long to bareback someone of course. Sometimes it only took me a few months, and in a few rare cases it only took me a few dates. But eventually, I am able to bareback most gals if I want to, even though almost all of them adamantly refused barebacking from the beginning.

And so, my point is, maybe just gradually and patiently ease into it, and not ask for it right away.

Date never came off. I was on the way and the girl videocalled, half gazeboed at 10 am and asking me to bring more booze with me. Noped out, too skeezy even for me.

I've got a couple of other girls on the hook. Pretty, 23 year old single mum from near Liverpool. A chav for my fellow Brits (I am kind of into that.) BBFSCIP agreed to for 150 ppm. Meeting her at a hotel Sunday. From our chat and videocall, she seems proper filthy. In a good way.

Gorgeous, stacked Black British 20 year old in Liverpool for 200 ppm. BBFSCIP. Possibly might go and see her Tuesday or Wednesday.

Looked into SA during Covid, but it was too difficult to arrange anything with the hotels shuts. Did my research and got all the cheat phrases and advice. It amazes me that these girls don't see themselves as W G. But if you messaged them, '150 an hour outcall, bareback and cum in pussy' you'd get shut down in an instant.

This SA thing is going to bankrupt me though.

[Elvis 2008]

I help that 4th category and fuk the guilt, having sex with the most gorgeous women I can find as often as possible. It is a relief to read these posts. See you all in Medellin, one month beginning November 24. Elvis?

Flight for Cartagena now is November 30 to December 6. I am working like a MF last two weeks of December but might be able to stay until the 8th.

Hopefully, we will be setting up our apartment in Cartagena then. It will be nice to have an apartment just the way I / we want it.

I am working on a threesome but it is not going so well. According to this video, I am probably at stage 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txrnbga-zDA.

With my luck, she will say okay on a threesome and then want it to be with another guy.

I feel like I am a disappointment to the forum but what do you do when you find a girl who gets more stares than anyone you have ever been with, does not ask for a dime, is so sweet she will do anything you ask both in and out of the bedroom, and gets pissed when she does not get it at least 3 X a day?

The women usually have a weakness. It is rare to find a woman top 10 (for me) in kissing, giving head, fucking, and sex drive. That never happens but it did with her. I think God will curse me with shitty sex the rest of my life if I mess this up.

If you come to CTG, the place to go is supposedly Dolce Vita. One guy said it had more hot women per square inch than anywhere in the world. My gal actually was interested in going there and going dancing.

I do not know about you but I have this annoying little habit of looking at other women when I am with my gal or another one. Inevitably, when I think I have the hottest, there is one better. That has not happened with her either. There has been a few rare times there has been equal but not better.

It looks like I am destined to be a one woman man. How the hell did this happen?

[J Janni]

So if you don't talk BBFScip early it sounds like I do talk about that some time. When and how are you bringing it up to these girls? I know the girls I am after would ghost me in two seconds. Sounds like you are finding more WG style girls?

I've got maybe four categories I've mentally put the girls (that aren't / probably aren't video sellers / scammers) into;.

Escorts. Probably have an AdultWork account or if they don't, they should. They're after £200+ppm and have a list of dos and donts. Bareback is a definite no go, like it would be with most of the girls on Adultwork if you ask for it straight up, out of the blue.

Absolute skanks. They're offering it up at 100-150 ppm. Drunks, drunk addicts, fat an / or fuck ugly!

Semi-pro kinda girls. Newish to the game, maybe hurting for short term money, mid-tier attractiveness, think there's probably a difference between them and a straight up escort. Probably not aware of their 'worth' yet. Condom use outside of the P4 p world isn't as prevalent as you might think so it isn't an absolute 'no' with these girls to fuck without a condom. Generally I find they're biting at 150 ppm or 200 ppm.

Proper SBs (the ones I'm interested in anyway) - Teen, early twenties, pretty as fuck stunners with perfect bodies. Aware of how the game is played, so will take PPM if you play it right. Generally going for 200-250+ppm.

I ditch the first two categories on discovery, focus on the second;.

My profile makes a big deal about how I travel for work and pleasure so much, lots of pictures of exotic locales, so no time for a traditional relationship. When we get chatting, I'll talk about a previous (imaginary) SB I had a casual, ongoing relationship with. She was so chill, 25, good job, we'd meet at hers a couple nights a month when I was in the UK, takeaway, wine and a movie. I'm a wealthy guy, see, just simple. (sets expectations that five star hotel and a £100 dinner on a PPM won't be forthcoming, not my style see.).

Talk about how I want to rekindle that, loved the casual and intimate nature bla-bla. Eventually move the conversation on to sexual likes and dislikes. With the stunner SBs, that's where I leave it. If we can find a PPM that works for both of us, I'd be happy for that quality of girl to use a condom. BBFSCIP with those girls I feel (and it has been my experience in other arenas) is more likely to happen with a 'go with the flow' in the room approach. Take your time on foreplay and teasing, get them off with oral yada-yada. An untested theory with SBs.

The 'semi-pro' girls, that's the point I'll ask if they're on birth control and get tested regularly. If they say no, they're probably lying and cutting the bareback question off. Sometimes they say yes and 'I always use protection. ' If they yes and nothing else, I start gushing about 'Oh good, that's what I miss most about previous relationship, the worry free, natural sex, the intimacy of cumming inside bla bla. ' Often the response I get is something like 'oh yes' and even an admission of 'hating the feel of condoms. '.

All untested yet. YMMV, for all I know I'm just talking to scammers / video sellers and bored girls with no intentions of meeting.

[Steve 9696]

Date never came off. I was on the way and the girl videocalled, half gazeboed at 10 am and asking me to bring more booze with me. Noped out, too skeezy even for me.

I've got a couple of other girls on the hook. Pretty, 23 year old single mum from near Liverpool. A chav for my fellow Brits (I am kind of into that.) BBFSCIP agreed to for 150 ppm. Meeting her at a hotel Sunday. From our chat and videocall, she seems proper filthy. In a good way.

Gorgeous, stacked Black British 20 year old in Liverpool for 200 ppm. BBFSCIP. Possibly might go and see her Tuesday or Wednesday.

Looked into SA during Covid, but it was too difficult to arrange anything with the hotels shuts. Did my research and got all the cheat phrases and advice. It amazes me that these girls don't see themselves as W G. But if you messaged them, '150 an hour outcall, bareback and cum in pussy' you'd get shut down in an instant.

This SA thing is going to bankrupt me though.

So if you don't talk BBFScip early it sounds like U do talk about that some time. Personally I’d be scared of any that allow CIP. That’s a level of desperation that I don’t want to get close to. When and how are you bringing it up to these girls? I know the girls I am after would ghost me in two seconds. Sounds like you are finding more WG style girls?

[J Janni]

So, this could be a winner.

Videocalled her again last, sweet talked her into showing me her pussy. Cute, very hairy. And she was wet, very wet, making cute little noises when she spread herself. I think all the talk of cumming in her pussy turned her on.

I'm taking the ungroomed nature (she's agreed to shave) and the wetness as a good sign. Inclined to believe her when she says she hasn't had sex in a year.

Got a date set in a couple of hours time, will report back.

Date never came off. I was on the way and the girl videocalled, half gazeboed at 10 am and asking me to bring more booze with me. Noped out, too skeezy even for me.

I've got a couple of other girls on the hook. Pretty, 23 year old single mum from near Liverpool. A chav for my fellow Brits (I am kind of into that.) BBFSCIP agreed to for 150 ppm. Meeting her at a hotel Sunday. From our chat and videocall, she seems proper filthy. In a good way.

Gorgeous, stacked Black British 20 year old in Liverpool for 200 ppm. BBFSCIP. Possibly might go and see her Tuesday or Wednesday.

Looked into SA during Covid, but it was too difficult to arrange anything with the hotels shuts. Did my research and got all the cheat phrases and advice. It amazes me that these girls don't see themselves as W G. But if you messaged them, '150 an hour outcall, bareback and cum in pussy' you'd get shut down in an instant.

This SA thing is going to bankrupt me though.

[DonCarlos1234]

Yeah, you guys are totally right. I forgot about the category of SBs (and some WGs) that have decent jobs, but they just hook or SB on the side for some extra cash. In fact, these are specifically the ones that I searched for on SA.


Anyway, I just brought up the categories because I wanted to hear your thoughts on the gals that are good people, but they sell their bodies because they feel like they have no other choice in order to survive for themselves and / or for their family. I am regularly seeing several gals that fall into this category, and it is eating me up.
For example, they are single moms with no money and with very poor parents and are from a very rural part of the country. They leave their kids back home and come to the big city to sell their bodies to have enough money to take care of the family. I feel guilty about seeing them, because I feel like I am taking advantage of their bad situation in life. And because my situation is the opposite of theirs. I was born into a good family, and raised well. I am actually lazy and a loser, but because I have a college degree that my parents paid for, I am doing okay financially with a decent job. And so, I feel like I am bad person because I am taking advantage of good people. I did not deserve my good fate and they did not deserve their bad fates. Ironically, they are among the best WGs, SBs, GFs that I ever had.

Never thought this was where my Mom's SD dates from the 70's would finally make sense. She kept me from knowing (but years later I figured it out) There was no SA then. The USA was a perfect, clean, pious place to grow up in. Where we lived in a preachers home (my grandfather, yikes!) & all the time Mom had at least 5-6 SD's that I know now helped her to make it in that country town. And we only left when she married a wealth businessman (my stepfather) . So I guess it's no wonder in today's world I get to do the same. I help that 4th category and fuk the guilt, having sex with the most gorgeous women I can find as often as possible. It is a relief to read these posts. See you all in Medellin, one month beginning November 24. Elvis?