Seeking Arrangements

[Steve 9696]

Yes, this happens to me all the time in MTY, it totally sucks. Each girl handle how they handle there periods differently. This is why it important to always have a back up plan.

I love your post and feedback.

Going to disagree a bit. I used to worry this same thing when it's come up occasionally but I had a friend point out it's prob genuine if a girl is otherwise into you. I mean think about it. If a girl has a three day period chances are 10% your going to hit it. Pretty good odds to miss if you see her one time. But what if she's a four day girl? Unless you are tracking carefully, see her seven times and you are bound to hit it.

Last two times I thought this it was false alarm. One because I could see the string poking out. Maybe she went that far but really? I don't think she dreads sex with me that much. And the next was Kayla. Went to pic up tampons and I thought oh no. But she was on tail end and took it out and let me CIP.

I don't think a girl is going to train ride and then bail on you with chance of being sent home or put on BJ for an hour. Could be wrong. Although I will say since you fuck for hours on end maybe girls do tire of it. All the reason to get a new girl.

[NeilGeorge]

Have you guys ever been in the situation where you are just about to get laid, but then the gal says that she suddenly got her period? Happened to me twice recently. When this happens, do you guys think we are being played?.

Yes, I had a woman who went into my hotel room bathroom and then came out an announced that her period just started and she could not have sex.

[Akibono]

Have you guys ever been in the situation where you are just about to get laid, but then the gal says that she suddenly got her period? Happened to me twice recently. When this happens, do you guys think we are being played?

A few weeks ago, I invited an ex-SB to go on a business trip with me. As she is arriving on the train, she tells me that her period suddenly started. I was stuck with her for three nights.

Yesterday, I was meeting someone that I have had relations with in the past. When we first hooked up, she would not kiss, and I put up with this for a while, but then stopped seeing her. She asked why I stopped seeing her and I told her that I like DFK, and so she agreed to do it. After seeing her some more, I asked her if we could bareback, and she said no. So again, I stopped seeing her, but then she suddenly contacts me and wants to see me. I thought it meant that we were going to bareback for the first time, so I agreed to meet her yesterday, but during her shower, she says oh no my period came.

I think in both cases that I got played. Periods do not suddenly come. Girls have a ball park idea of their period calendar, and they also start to get moody and experience discomfort at least a couple of days before their period comes..

Yes, you got played. OTOH nothing is as bad as a disinterested gal just being passive and not engaging you. Men are always at a disadvantage. Most of the time it doesn't pay to be cheap. The most expensive session is a cheap session.

[DramaFree11]

Have you guys ever been in the situation where you are just about to get laid, but then the gal says that she suddenly got her period? Happened to me twice recently. When this happens, do you guys think we are being played?

A few weeks ago, I invited an ex-SB to go on a business trip with me. As she is arriving on the train, she tells me that her period suddenly started. I was stuck with her for three nights.

Yesterday, I was meeting someone that I have had relations with in the past. When we first hooked up, she would not kiss, and I put up with this for a while, but then stopped seeing her. She asked why I stopped seeing her and I told her that I like DFK, and so she agreed to do it. After seeing her some more, I asked her if we could bareback, and she said no. So again, I stopped seeing her, but then she suddenly contacts me and wants to see me. I thought it meant that we were going to bareback for the first time, so I agreed to meet her yesterday, but during her shower, she says oh no my period came.

I think in both cases that I got played. Periods do not suddenly come. Girls have a ball park idea of their period calendar, and they also start to get moody and experience discomfort at least a couple of days before their period comes..

Yes, this happens to me all the time in MTY, it totally sucks. Each girl handle how they handle there periods differently. This is why it important to always have a back up plan.

I love your post and feedback.

[Midwestern]

Have you guys ever been in the situation where you are just about to get laid, but then the gal says that she suddenly got her period? Happened to me twice recently. When this happens, do you guys think we are being played?

A few weeks ago, I invited an ex-SB to go on a business trip with me. As she is arriving on the train, she tells me that her period suddenly started. I was stuck with her for three nights.

Yesterday, I was meeting someone that I have had relations with in the past. When we first hooked up, she would not kiss, and I put up with this for a while, but then stopped seeing her. She asked why I stopped seeing her and I told her that I like DFK, and so she agreed to do it. After seeing her some more, I asked her if we could bareback, and she said no. So again, I stopped seeing her, but then she suddenly contacts me and wants to see me. I thought it meant that we were going to bareback for the first time, so I agreed to meet her yesterday, but during her shower, she says oh no my period came.

I think in both cases that I got played. Periods do not suddenly come. Girls have a ball park idea of their period calendar, and they also start to get moody and experience discomfort at least a couple of days before their period comes.

Anyways, just wanted to come on here to vent.

[Elvis 2008]

Straw poll. Does anyone believe a beautiful, doe-eyed brunette 5'2 95 lbs 19 year old with a drum-taut body is a virgin? Literally, the girl we all dream of getting into bed. The girl who would have been amongst the hottest girls at your school / college uni.

I don't. And I'm so not after a virgin.

I have been with two virgins. Sexually speaking, it was way below average. Emotionally with one, it was okay. The other felt guilty and later implied she was forced even though I wanted to stop because I could not get in, and she said to keep trying.

So with your virgin question, my answer is, I guess it is possible but if were my gal, I would hope not.

[J Janni]

Seeing a girl next week. 28 year old single mother, a little plain but has bumped herself way up with the quality of our banter together and the tastefully sexy pictures she's sent at just the right moment in conversations.

Simple coffee & a walk date. Definitely no hint of it being more than a 'meet and greet' due to timings and circumstances surrounding childcare. If nothing else, it'll be a good chance to get some experience in chatting up an SA girl.

Kinda' like the girl and she's right on my doorstep, so a convenient prospect. Would my fellow Brit SD's contribute something towards said childcare (babysitter) in this scenario? And what's the classy way to go about it?

No financials have been discussed.

[NeilGeorge]

Recently I have come across (no pun intended) a couple ladies with smelly butt odor, and also smelly pussy odor, especially when performing doggie position sex. Other than cutting them loose, is there a good way to get corrective action and get this cleaned up? I do not want to be rude, but some of these women need to bathe. Showering does not cleanse the butt hole or the pussy hole from the smell. Should I tell them that and risk a confrontation? They may say, well your penis smells too. Urine smell or urine drip and she does not want to perform felatio.

[J Janni]

Straw poll. Does anyone believe a beautiful, doe-eyed brunette 5'2 95 lbs 19 year old with a drum-taut body is a virgin? Literally, the girl we all dream of getting into bed. The girl who would have been amongst the hottest girls at your school / college uni.

I don't. And I'm so not after a virgin.

[J Janni]

Think you are after exactly what is my sweet spot girl who wants to be treated nice and will fuck you if things go well at dinner. I've even had three that balked at the room but managed to fuck two out of three. LOL. (And 28 that went to room smoothly). And yeah agree. Want to undress slowly. A little seduction it's all part of it.

I'the suggest you go to a nice dinner. You drink a lot. You laugh a lot. Next you know she's your girlfriend for the night. Try to go to hotel that night while you have momentum. Don't let it sag over to a second date.

For these girls you can't talk sex and cip and all that. You going to treat them like a date during the SA pickup. Same as you would a girl in a bar. And you will find the right type.

I think you may be right. In fact I'm almost certain you are. I am chatting to some girls like that. The 18/19/20 year old stunners you need to go softly-softly with and would run a mile at explicit sex talk early on. Sorting out the logistics of meeting with a couple of very gorgeous girls. And actually, one 28 year old single mum who I've been having great banter and conversations with, who keeps surprising me with very tastefully sexy pics at just the right moment. Not as pretty or nubile as the ideal, but her personality and ability to turn me on bumps her way up.

HOWEVER. I do have a couple of girls I'm very interested in who are agreeing to BBFSCIP if things go well over a coffee, who are almost as attractive as the Tier 1 girls. If they don't suddenly turn into content sellers or deposit / transport scammers (which I think is highly likely) or complete flakes (highly likely), I'd like to explore it.

I think more than likely I'll end up chasing your sweet spot and have to expend some time, effort and money without guaranteed results.

[Steve 9696]

Met 29 year old leggy single mum today. She matched her pictures (and the videocall duh) so it wasn't a bait and switch. Coining a new phrase, 'getting escorted' - when an SB turns out to actually just be an escort. Some redflags I overlooked wilfully as she was the most convenient girl (close, took my first offer, could meet almost immediately, could host. Which are mostly all redflags themselves) such as wanting to communicate on Kik rather than Whatsapp. With the benefit of hindsight, it was all obvious.

I think she does her business on Seeking exclusively. I can't find a profile in the area that matches her even slightly anywhere else.

Got her place, knocked on the door. And she answered in a dressing gown with just underwear underneath and I immediately knew she was an escort. She took my initial pause as shyness. When really it was an internal debate between my brain 'this isn't what you wanted from SA' and my dick 'you're here, she's hot, why not?

Inside, sit on the couch, cup of tea, perfunctory chat about bollocks where she threw up more redflags to her escorty nature, mostly financial. After maybe 5-10 minutes, at her suggestion, 'Shall we go upstairs?' (and asked for the money. I hadn't immediately handed it over as I was still mentally debating leaving).

Handed it over and went upstairs. Typical escort start, light French kissing (did deepen properly when I succeeded in getting her worked up), blowjob, ok sex, breather, ok sex. Nothing to write home about. Got stage managed out in a way that was far too slick, parted after spending about 2. 5 hours there. I've paid more for far less time with a less attractive girl, so I'm not all cut up about the experience.

Just not what I was looking for on SA. That 'seducing' feeling of the slow escalation of a non-P4 p sexual encounter. If I'm cheeky enough to send her a post match review, I'll suggest she actually wears clothes next time, allows the guy to make the first move and start activities on the couch rather than the change of venue before we've even touched.

I've cancelled with the girl for tomorrow. I suspect it would be more of the same (though as we're meeting at a hotel, at least she'd wear clothes. Am I alone in thinking the slow undressing is a great part of the experience? Hate turning up to see an escort and having her meet me the typical lingerie, stockings and heels.).

Going to try one of the girls a level up who've agreed on a 'coffee / drink, chat and if we're comfortable, to a hotel' to see if that offers the experience I'm looking for. If that's a bust, I might actually have to try one of the girls who won't fuck on the first date.

Think you are after exactly what is my sweet spot girl who wants to be treated nice and will fuck you if things go well at dinner. I've even had three that balked at the room but managed to fuck two out of three. LOL. (And 28 that went to room smoothly). And yeah agree. Want to undress slowly. A little seduction it's all part of it.

I'the suggest you go to a nice dinner. You drink a lot. You laugh a lot. Next you know she's your girlfriend for the night. Try to go to hotel that night while you have momentum. Don't let it sag over to a second date.

For these girls you can't talk sex and cip and all that. You going to treat them like a date during the SA pickup. Same as you would a girl in a bar. And you will find the right type.

Still congrats on ur first closure. Two rounds and 2.5 hours beats an hourly girl. Even if it felt a bit escortish. There are worse things. But U can def find the right girl if u take the right approach.

[Ruch888]

All this back and forth got me pretty damn horny, so on the theory that a pussy in hand is worth two in the Bush as girls are flakey.

Got a date lined up for tomorrow. Tall, slim, pretty brunette. 29. It's 150 ppm but unlike the other girl, she can host so it keeps the cost down. Depends on how it goes, I might pie off the Sunday date.

For anyone contemplating looking into SBs in the UK and concerned about the hotel thing, there's a couple of websites dayrooms.com and dayuse. Co. Uk. You can book a hotel room in the day all over the country. Nothing to pay upfront, occupy from 10 am - 5 pm, cancel by up to mid-day on the day of the booking and pay no fee (not sure how they'd collect a fee if you cancelled after / no showed as they don't have my card details. Maybe just blacklist you if you don't pay). 50% cheaper than overnight rate. My experience so far with SA is it definitely doesn't need to be the trips abroad, fine dining and expensive hotels it might first appear to be.

Even the teen stunners I've floated the idea with seem happy to PPM and straight to a hotel during the day. Whether they'd flake or not remains to be seen.

Thanks for the recommendation I'm in the UK now going to use this site for my sugar dates. What is the average Ppm you're doing? I see 150 £ for the mum I guess? The averages I'm getting are 400-600 for some good ones. Is it because I'm not local and the babes feel that they can take advantage of me being a foreigner? Or is that the standard In London.

[J Janni]

Met 29 year old leggy single mum today. She matched her pictures (and the videocall duh) so it wasn't a bait and switch. Coining a new phrase, 'getting escorted' - when an SB turns out to actually just be an escort. Some redflags I overlooked wilfully as she was the most convenient girl (close, took my first offer, could meet almost immediately, could host. Which are mostly all redflags themselves) such as wanting to communicate on Kik rather than Whatsapp. With the benefit of hindsight, it was all obvious.

I think she does her business on Seeking exclusively. I can't find a profile in the area that matches her even slightly anywhere else.

Got her place, knocked on the door. And she answered in a dressing gown with just underwear underneath and I immediately knew she was an escort. She took my initial pause as shyness. When really it was an internal debate between my brain 'this isn't what you wanted from SA' and my dick 'you're here, she's hot, why not?

Inside, sit on the couch, cup of tea, perfunctory chat about bollocks where she threw up more redflags to her escorty nature, mostly financial. After maybe 5-10 minutes, at her suggestion, 'Shall we go upstairs?' (and asked for the money. I hadn't immediately handed it over as I was still mentally debating leaving).

Handed it over and went upstairs. Typical escort start, light French kissing (did deepen properly when I succeeded in getting her worked up), blowjob, ok sex, breather, ok sex. Nothing to write home about. Got stage managed out in a way that was far too slick, parted after spending about 2. 5 hours there. I've paid more for far less time with a less attractive girl, so I'm not all cut up about the experience.

Just not what I was looking for on SA. That 'seducing' feeling of the slow escalation of a non-P4 p sexual encounter. If I'm cheeky enough to send her a post match review, I'll suggest she actually wears clothes next time, allows the guy to make the first move and start activities on the couch rather than the change of venue before we've even touched.

I've cancelled with the girl for tomorrow. I suspect it would be more of the same (though as we're meeting at a hotel, at least she'd wear clothes. Am I alone in thinking the slow undressing is a great part of the experience? Hate turning up to see an escort and having her meet me the typical lingerie, stockings and heels.).

Going to try one of the girls a level up who've agreed on a 'coffee / drink, chat and if we're comfortable, to a hotel' to see if that offers the experience I'm looking for. If that's a bust, I might actually have to try one of the girls who won't fuck on the first date.

[Steve 9696]

Here is the follow up full FR on Liz. Great reminder in so many ways. One. Girls from years ago will still be ready to fuck you if you treated them right. Just because it's transactional to start doesn't mean it can't blossom. Sometimes going against type can be ok or even good. So much is the girl and her attitude.

I met Liz about two years ago on SA. The first meet was quite memorable because there was some mixup on timing and we only had a very short window. So we meet at the bar and have one quick drink and I can feel the sex-time clock ticking down.

So I say "want to get out if here?" And she is a bit taken aback and says "wow you're really confident aren't you?" To which I reply "Yep. Let's go. " And off we go to the hotel next door. Damn, alcohol can be your friend those words just came out of my mouth without a thought and damn if she didn't just follow me and get it on! And here we are two years later meeting up in earnest after perhaps two or three direct to hotel meets two years ago.

So Liz is fun because she's pretty straightforward (used to be a stripper) but not my type physically (eye color, skin tone etc) but a very pretty girl. After finding nothing better I felt like I was just settling for her. But that was flat out wrong! In the end it was a whale of a time with an awesome vibe and definitely to be repeated.

We had some restaurant snafu but eventually found a place that we both enjoyed. She confessed she'the been swigging wine from her purse to loosen up a bit. And we added Sake to the mix during dinner. Pretty reasonable date and the conversation flowed easily. She ran into a friend who works as a waitress there but she took it like a champ. LOL.

We bopped back to the hotel and up to the room. Because this was not a hometown date and we already knew each other there was really no rush. So I broke out the Tito's and Sprite (her request-I always keep my girl happy in the drinks dept) and we sat cross legged on the bed and just shot the shit and drank for prob a half hour.

I tend to get bold and frisky when I drink so as she's chatting away I just start taking off her sweater. Pretty soon that is off then the rest and we are both naked standing and making out. The kissing is a bit less tongue than I prefer but that will change once I get her cranked up.

She's quite tatted up as it turns out having gotten quite a few these last two years. She now has a full sleeve which I have to say is frankly badass awesome. (I know some guys don't like tattoos but if you travel to Brasil you better learn to love them and I have). She's a bit heavier than I prefer some Covid pounds but still nice and smooth and shapely more thick than fat.

So we get the party started by me easing her down on her back at the edge of the bed with my face positioned between her legs. Damn she has a beautiful pussy not quite like any other I've see. And I've seen a few! It's like a flower with lots of petals. No big pronounced lips but lots of little waves and folds. Quite beautiful to look at and dive into.

I remember last time she didn't like fingering and we had discussed that on text. So gentleman that I am I say "I'm trying to remember what you like." and she says "whatever you want to do is fine with me!" Nice. It's on.

So I dive in for some lengthy DATY including some tentative fingering followed by the full on treatment as she warms up. After satisfying her well, I move up to kiss her and now we are full on tongue tangled macking. Just needed a warm up.

And so we head to BBBJ. I'm starting to position myself on my back and she says "don't you want me on my knees?" Wow aren't you the submissive vixen. Damn straight I do! I throw a pillow on the floor for her to kneel and she appreciates my consideration.

Wow that girl can give some head. Occupational hazard of being a stripper I suppose. Later riding cowgirl she says riding all those strip club laps honed her game. LOL. The BJ is very very good with plenty of BLS. She does something that strangely I have never had before which is at one point she will lean back letting my entire cock leave her mouth then lean forward to a deep throat then lean back again. Basically like a mouth fucking but where your cock exits and re-enters every stroke. Was pretty mind blowing.

After a bunch of this (20 minutes?) I am ready to fuck. I comment on how I luv BJ so much and don't want to stop but just get this powerful urge to fuck and she says same exact with her. So on goes the cover and I position her in my fave position. Just going to start calling this the Steve. On her back. Pussy at edge of bed. Me standing. Insert and let the magic begin. The Steve. We have her tunes on and I get a good rhythm going.

Man we fuck like this forever. I can't remember exactly what she said but it reminded me of Jade who said "You can fuck me all night if you want baby". Very similar comment and in fact I think in total I have never fucked so much in one evening as that night.

After a while we switch to Cowgirl and she is very very good. Blue ribbon baby. I feel like I might cum after a long ride but prefer to finish by mouth and ask her same. She says sure.

So I go to stand in front of the pillow I put down for her to kneel on. She gets up grabs the pillow and chucks it and says "pillows are for pussys!" And gets down bare knees on carpet to suck me off. LOL. Luv that baby. Like your dirty girl style! And it's another long BBBJ to a CIM and swallow finish. A goodly mouthful but she swallows it all.

Lots of drinking and cuddling follows. I get the full tattoo tour plus who knows what we talk about. Surely a half hour as I recover. I get pretty frisky when drinking so on returning from the bathroom I climb on the bed on all fours and go get over top of her like a dog and start kissing her. And damn she warms up quickly. Super comfy now I roll her on her back and get between her legs and say she has such a small clit and it’s quite buried in there. So we root around for a bit and find it. LOL and do some more DATY and then head for some more amazingly long fucking sessions.

Oh round two is a bit foggy but def did the Steve and doggy and more BJ and geez I dunno. Finish with an epic 10+ minute BJ really sloppy with lots of hands on balls and bam. Another CIM swallow.

After relaxing a bit she's got the munchies and is talking about getting an Uber to get some hamburgers at this amazing Late night bar and grill. I say shit I'll just drive you and we can go together and she is all over that. We've moved from transactional to super BFGF and really enjoy each other. So we have some epic late night burgers and I drive her home. A full 6 hours from start to finish. Really nice relaxed experience. Def repeat. She's a whale of a good time.

[WyattEarp]

I've got maybe four categories I've mentally put the girls (that aren't / probably aren't video sellers / scammers) into;.

Escorts. Probably have an AdultWork account or if they don't, they should. They're after 200+ppm and have a list of dos and donts. Bareback is a definite no go, like it would be with most of the girls on Adultwork if you ask for it straight up, out of the blue.

Absolute skanks. They're offering it up at 100-150 ppm. Drunks, drunk addicts, fat an / or fuck ugly!

Semi-pro kinda girls. Newish to the game, maybe hurting for short term money, mid-tier attractiveness, think there's probably a difference between them and a straight up escort. Probably not aware of their 'worth' yet. Condom use outside of the P4 p world isn't as prevalent as you might think so it isn't an absolute 'no' with these girls to fuck without a condom. Generally I find they're biting at 150 ppm or 200 ppm.

Proper SBs (the ones I'm interested in anyway) - Teen, early twenties, pretty as fuck stunners with perfect bodies. Aware of how the game is played, so will take PPM if you play it right. Generally going for 200-250+ppm.

I ditch the first two categories on discovery, focus on the second;..

I think you're giving Steve9696 ideas and he's going to set up his SA shop in London. You might want to claim the Midlands and Northward for yourself. LOL.