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  1. #2782
    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanPi  [View Original Post]
    This is great input, thank you!

    And what a generous but not over the top amount for date 1 in Mex City if you know? Would 150 bucks be good? 200? 300?
    $400 to $500 for a true 10 type. $150 to $200 for a 9 in Mexico City. With a 8 or below, you can do $150 or less, and most gals were happy with $100.

    I met some nice women in Mexico City on seeking, but if you are looking to get laid, I found the escorts to be better looking, better in bed, and a better value on average than seeking women.

    The top gals for sure were on seeking, but with the 10 types, you had to pay what is big money in Mexico to get them.

  2. #2781
    This. Is. Gold.

    Thank you once again!

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    So someone on here is a Mexico City expert. Can't recall who. Hopefully he will chime in. My experience is mostly US but I still think it mostly applies.

    Your opener should be clear it is not canned. Like use her name or something in her profile as part of your opener. And ALWAYS end every chat with a question or she will not respond. Strangely the question "what color are your eyes" which I sometimes ask when not clear gets a near 100% response rate!

    My opener might be "Wow. Bree you are amazing looking but I also like your profile. Love that you love dogs. Think we might vibe well. What's your fave beer or wine? Or maybe something stronger?" (May flavor by the vibe I get from the girl).

    On discussing sex def don't ever discuss on SA and def be circumspect. After chatting some I take them to text or WhatsApp. At the appropriate time I might say "Hey seems like we rather like each other. I could see a date going like this: We have some amazing Italian and prob drink too much and laugh a ton. If we vibe like I think we will we'the take things private after dinner. On the off chance we don't vibe, we can part after dinner no harm no foul. That sound about right?

  3. #2780

    Openers and Other Discussion

    So someone on here is a Mexico City expert. Can't recall who. Hopefully he will chime in. My experience is mostly US but I still think it mostly applies.

    Your opener should be clear it is not canned. Like use her name or something in her profile as part of your opener. And ALWAYS end every chat with a question or she will not respond. Strangely the question "what color are your eyes" which I sometimes ask when not clear gets a near 100% response rate!

    My opener might be "Wow. Bree you are amazing looking but I also like your profile. Love that you love dogs. Think we might vibe well. What's your fave — beer or wine? Or maybe something stronger?" (May flavor by the vibe I get from the girl).

    On discussing sex def don't ever discuss on SA and def be circumspect. After chatting some I take them to text or WhatsApp. At the appropriate time I might say "Hey seems like we rather like each other. I could see a date going like this: We have some amazing Italian and prob drink too much and laugh a ton. If we vibe like I think we will we'the take things private after dinner. On the off chance we don't vibe, we can part after dinner no harm no foul. That sound about right?

    More often than not if you are getting along they will answer yes and you are good. I never discuss overnight or bareback. Those things just happen. And on a high percentage if you are non objectionable and charming. A lot of these girls just want a man to treat them right for a night! They are so used to penniless losers fucking them for free!

    Good luck!

  4. #2779
    This is great input, thank you!

    Can I ask a few more things.

    Not to divulge your secret sauce but what kind of stuff should I have in my opener?

    How direct do you have to be with expectations of sex? Like "I need to know if you're prepared to stay at my hotel. I'm not just looking to buy someone dinner?"

    And what a generous but not over the top amount for date 1 in Mex City if you know? Would 150 bucks be good? 200? 300?

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    You def don't need a pic in your profile but be prepared to send one. Pretty much any girl you want to fuck on SA (non or semi pro) wants to know what you look like. But you don't have to broadcast it to the world. Just wait till she asks. I don't have a pic and have banged about 35 SA girlfriends over last two years, including a reg and a newbie just this week.

    As far as ratios there is the way I usually play it and the way I sometimes do for a quickie.

    First. I am picky about my type. So as I scroll a major city maybe 1 in 20 or less I will engage with. And I will send an opener. I've gotten pretty good at openers and I prob get about a 25-50% response rate. Most of those die quickly tho if a girl is not going to get on daily or every two days and engage in more than two words she's not going to work for me. Girls that engage in real-time conversation almost always being good.

    Of the ones that respond to my open I'the guess about 1 in 10 makes it to a date. I am usually in a city for a few days and pick two girls to see and repeat with the best.

    On occasion, I have spammed a lot of girls with "Going out to a nice dinner and drinks tonight. Join me?" And have been successful with that. Both were one night stands so far but both want to see me next time I'm in their town. So yeah that works too!

  5. #2778
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    . At some point she says something that makes me respond "that would be great but I'm already taken". There is a bit of silence and she says "what do you mean your taken?" And I say "you know, married" not thinking a thing of it, and point out my wedding ring which has been in plain sight this whole evening.
    In my mind I just assume that deep down the girl must know why guys are pay $xxx dollars to take them on a date.

  6. #2777

    No Pic Needed

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanPi  [View Original Post]
    Can I ask, do you recommend that guys use photos on SA or can I catch enough game without making my face available?

    Also, what's the ratio for you? How many reach outs do you think you need to make to land one solid date? Trying to figure out if I just spray and pray, or go selective?
    You def don't need a pic in your profile but be prepared to send one. Pretty much any girl you want to fuck on SA (non or semi pro) wants to know what you look like. But you don't have to broadcast it to the world. Just wait till she asks. I don't have a pic and have banged about 35 SA girlfriends over last two years, including a reg and a newbie just this week.

    As far as ratios there is the way I usually play it and the way I sometimes do for a quickie.

    First. I am picky about my type. So as I scroll a major city maybe 1 in 20 or less I will engage with. And I will send an opener. I've gotten pretty good at openers and I prob get about a 25-50% response rate. Most of those die quickly tho — if a girl is not going to get on daily or every two days and engage in more than two words she's not going to work for me. Girls that engage in real-time conversation almost always being good.

    Of the ones that respond to my open I'the guess about 1 in 10 makes it to a date. I am usually in a city for a few days and pick two girls to see and repeat with the best.

    On occasion, I have spammed a lot of girls with "Going out to a nice dinner and drinks tonight. Join me?" And have been successful with that. Both were one night stands so far but both want to see me next time I'm in their town. So yeah that works too!

  7. #2776

    Getting it!

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    Back in the room it was epic sex for a very long time. I was too liquored up to cum quickly so we sucked and fucked in every position possible. Gave her some nice DATY and fingering early on and she was a hot wet mess. Finished while making out in mish with full BBFSCIP. It was heavenly. Worth every penny of that birth control ask.

    Pleasantly, and I don't get this enough from SA girls, she starts a nice wake-up BJ as the way to start the day. She wants the D bad though because she only BJs till I'm hard and mounts up Cowgirl within a minute. And man does she fuck the hell out of me. That aggressive Cowgirl where they lean over so the can really jam it in and out. She has two apparent medium Os as I just let her use me as her fuck toy.

    And so ends my three day two girl bareback adventure and a study in contrasts between SA girls. Spent and satisfied.
    On the birth control, so long as they do indeed use it LOL! My girl has her tubes tied so. And on being used like a sex toy, that's how my girl did me the other night from reverse cowgirl. She was picking those cheeks up and setting them down with a rough "whack, whack, whack, whack, whack"! I let her get all that dick she wanted until she had a "feminine nut", then I blew. Me and Steve. We be bareback fucking SA girls and shit. And so went another nice saga of the SA legend known as "Steve" hahahaha!

  8. #2775

    Photos

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanPi  [View Original Post]
    Can I ask, do you recommend that guys use photos on SA or can I catch enough game without making my face available?

    Also, what's the ratio for you? How many reach outs do you think you need to make to land one solid date? Trying to figure out if I just spray and pray, or go selective?
    I have a pic that I keep private, and only show it to whoever I would like to versus everybody being able to see it.

  9. #2774

    SA Photos

    Can I ask, do you recommend that guys use photos on SA or can I catch enough game without making my face available?

    Also, what's the ratio for you? How many reach outs do you think you need to make to land one solid date? Trying to figure out if I just spray and pray, or go selective?

  10. #2773
    Quote Originally Posted by DrainMaker  [View Original Post]
    Let me put it differently.

    You would struggle to get anyone for under 250,300 and upwards is the norm.
    I don't doubt it. Have you seen the price of a pint in London?

    Happily up North the girls are more my type and much more reasonable.

  11. #2772
    Quote Originally Posted by JJanni  [View Original Post]
    Luckily I don't hang around London when I'm in the UK.

    Besides which, 'decent' is a very subjective thing, which is why I refrain from all the talk of 6's and 7's and 9 and 10's that goes on here.

    What I'm after from a seeking girl is not the glammed up Insta go style hottest girl in the nightclub, I want the pretty 18 year old supermarket checkout girl.
    Let me put it differently.

    You would struggle to get anyone for under 250,300 and upwards is the norm.

  12. #2771

    Great Study in Contrasts

    Had some pretty great BBFS the last few days. When I think about it, once I became more open to the idea of BBFS, I see that maybe it's been on offer all along. The last five Seeking girls I've had have all been BBFS no fuss no muss. I am realizing now that it was probably ME getting the condom that sent things that direction and had I just mounted up she'the be down. Because like I say the last five have been.

    These last two dates are so interesting in their contrast. Liz is a former stripper and def knows the game. And Celia is a newbie with some apparently innocent misguided expectations as you will see. All good in the end.

    So first up is Liz. This is the SA girl in a second tier city I visit who I saw for quick fucks a couple years back but now we are doing real complete dates. I like this so much better. She is a ton of fun.

    I'the seen her end of 2021 and she knew I was coming back so 2 weeks ago she hit me up saying she needed to buy birth control. And I said Ok maybe I can do that if we plan to take advantage of it and she was down. I think it was clear she was saying she's down for BBFS and why not pick up $100 on the way. Win win.

    We met up for dinner at a sushi place and had some pretty good sushi and some different fruit infused sakes. Then bounced to an interesting place with a liquor store in front and a chill club in the back. Killed another bottle of wine plus she chugged a beer. She likes her drinks and gets wild when drinking.

    Back in the room it was epic sex for a very long time. I was too liquored up to cum quickly so we sucked and fucked in every position possible. Gave her some nice DATY and fingering early on and she was a hot wet mess. Finished while making out in mish with full BBFSCIP. It was heavenly. Worth every penny of that birth control ask.

    Day two was very similar format but with a very nice dinner and no club. We drank too much the night before and kept it under control this night. It led to a very different but equally satisfying bedroom experience. Because I wasn't very lit it all felt amazing but also lasted a lot less. I almost came during her excellent BJ but held off. But fucking her raw in mish while kissing was too amazing. I had a slow build to shattering CIP probably 20 minutes total in the room vs over an hour the previous night. But both great in their own way.

    Next night was Celia in a different city. We met on SA about three weeks ago and she was very girlfriendy and we agreed to meet. Originally we were supposed to meet as a prelude to meeting once a month but things changed and that was off. I was transparent that this was now likely a one time only thing but she still wanted to meetup.

    This is where the notion of sunk cost can be important with girls. She'the spent alot of time on me. Like texting every morning and evening about my day. Very girlfriendy. So when she found out it might be a one night thing she was super sad but when I gave her the chance to opt out she said "No I def want to see the man I've been talking to all this time. ".

    We met up for sushi and sake and had a real nice time. She's def heavier than expected and her face had been filtered a bit. Def not quite the type I like best but clearly a sweet girl and I've had some heavy girls of late. For the most part I find they try harder and that works for me.

    After dinner we bounce to a bar down the street. Had a balcony overlooking the street so a really nice place to chill. We talk about going dancing but agree we are both too tired and to just go to the room. But she's in for a treat first. I arranged a pedicab (bicycle rickshaw) and it's waiting for us when we emerge from the bar.

    I know the driver well and I've told him ahead where to drop us in the end but let's hit the liquor store and the town first. It's prob a mile to the store but we have a nice chat and I pull her face to mine for our first kisses. She enjoys real kissing and she's a good kisser. At the liquor store we get a white Zinfandel and open it onsite so we can drink from the bottle during the ride.

    He takes us on a nice tour and we are pounding the wine. Here's where things go sideways a bit. At some point she says something that makes me respond "that would be great but I'm already taken". There is a bit of silence and she says "what do you mean your taken?" And I say "you know, married" not thinking a thing of it, and point out my wedding ring which has been in plain sight this whole evening.

    Well clearly she is an inexperienced girl because it never occurred to her to look. And she is genuinely surprised. There is a bit of back and forth where she says I should have told her, which of course is a bit ridiculous and I say I've had the ring on all night. I'm not tying to hide it (been together close to three hours now I'the say).

    Honestly I feel really bad for her. Believe it or not she was totally into me (and my wealth no doubt) and in her young mind plotting some future. Naively thinking she might find that on SA. She says she is going to cry and does shed a tear. Although clearly not my fault, I feel crushingly sorry for her naivety and I don't like hurting anyone.

    Well the rest of the ride is a bit awkward but we continue to drink and I guess she's getting over it and thinking about a great one night stand. She had said at some point earlier "I haven't had any good dick in two months" and she was about to get that in spades!

    We have finished the bottle of wine by the time we are home and I am thinking that's it for the drinking but there is a complementary bottle of red in the room and she cracks that and we start drinking that too. It's only seconds till we are making out and getting naked. This girl is def a horny beast.

    Her blowjob is good but not great, but no hesitation to lick and suck my newly shaved balls when encouraged to do so. And man does she ride me bareback like a blue ribbon Cowgirl. Never any mention of condoms. We also do RCG, doggy, and The Steve for a long time. Amazing mish with urgent, needy making out DFK. But finally, knowing I can't CIP move to CIM for a big finish. Clearly it's a big load and after spitting she says damn she hadn't done that in a while.

    We sleep the sleep of the dead or at least she does she snores super loud LOL and was asleep 30 seconds after spitting my cum. Musta fucked her good. But I sleep well also.

    Pleasantly and I don't get this enough from SA girls she starts a nice wake-up BJ as the way to start the day. She wants the D bad though because she only BJs till I'm hard and mounts up Cowgirl within a minute. And man does she fuck the hell out of me. That aggressive Cowgirl where they lean over so the can really jam it in and out. She has two apparent medium Os as I just let her use me as her fuck toy.

    Then it's my turn and we do doggy and of course my fave DFK mish. Man it was fine. I hold off cumming though and roll on my back for another CIM finish.

    After cleanup showers we check out and have a nice brunch before ubering together to her place to drop her off and me to the airport. And so ends my three day two girl bareback adventure and a study in contrasts between SA girls. Spent and satisfied.

  13. #2770
    Quote Originally Posted by DrainMaker  [View Original Post]
    You would struggle to find any decent SA chicks for under 250 ppm in london.
    Luckily I don't hang around London when I'm in the UK.

    Besides which, 'decent' is a very subjective thing, which is why I refrain from all the talk of 6's and 7's and 9 and 10's that goes on here.

    What I'm after from a seeking girl is not the glammed up Insta go style hottest girl in the nightclub, I want the pretty 18 year old supermarket checkout girl.

  14. #2769
    Quote Originally Posted by JJanni  [View Original Post]
    I'm back in the UK in April. Unfortunately going to have to spend 18 days there before making my escape to the Phils or anywhere in South East Asia I can get to.

    18 days. Conservatively, that's three girls I'm going to need to see to take the edge off.

    So tempting to just pay the 100 for a seeking membership again and creampie some chavvy British teens.

    Going rate for pro escorts is 100-150 per hour. Bad service, or not very hot girls.

    Seeking girls are 150-200, plus 40-50 for a hotel. Multiple hours, no restrictions. Banged some British spinner teens last time, BBFSCIP.

    Is it worth it for less than a month? Probably.
    You would struggle to find any decent SA chicks for under 250 ppm in london.

  15. #2768

    Phone Number

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanPi  [View Original Post]
    I could not find a phone number on their website.
    When I was suspended, I received an email that had their telephone number in it. Unfortunately, I no longer have that email to be able to share the number with you. I understand the frustration. Went through it myself. In the end it was worth it. Me and my hot sugar baby had bareback sex again last Friday night. Ate out her asshole for the first time. Nutted inside her pussy. Try a Google search.

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