Seeking Arrangements

[Cons68]

Maybe this has been asked, and answered, before but I really do nto get what is the point of paying premium for the girls. Do they get any special benefit?

I could not find an explanation on the site, I suspect they get pushed more often to potential daddies, is that it?

[Elvis 2008]

Thanks for the Australia update. It is very interesting and good to know SA works there.

I have heard that Canada, the UK, and even Australia have become variations of the USA sex prison. Can you confirm that? What stunned me in Colombia was how many Australians seemed to be headed there to hunt the chicas. I have heard Aussie men love Thailand, but was the Aussie mongering community talking about Colombia pre-Covid?

[Elvis 2008]

I just want to be clear. I'm not talking about getting one of a few potential hotels like traditional Hotwire. I'm talking about getting an exact SPECIFIC hotel at a high discount using the method I gave below. For example give me a city and I will tell you exactly WHICH 3 star hotel you will get for $149 for example. It's worked every time and in different cities. I think they know this loophole exists but don't talk about it.

Yeah, Steve, I have used the hotwire tip. Ironically, on a computer, hotwire says that you will get one of these three hotels and with the mobile app, they narrow it to two choices.

I will go to hotels.com and use the clues in hotwire (distance to certain sites) to determine which hotel I will get and as you said, Steve, it is easy to find which hotel hotwire refers to. I also like hotwire for rental cars. Well, I did before rental car prices went crazy. There is some kind of car share program, kind of like Airbnb but with cars not homes. I wonder if any one here has tried that and if the prices are sane.

Other tips include going to Tripadvisor.com once you find the hotel you want. Trip advisor will list like a dozen or so hotel sites on its page and sometimes you will have one hotel website that reduces the price up to 30 to 50%. So I will often use hotels.com to find the hotel I want then go to Trip Advisor and see if it is offered cheaper on another website and often it is. The savings has been huge. I booked the Cancun Intercontinental for $100 a night on Trip Advisor versus the $150 a night on IC's own website and even got free breakfast included.

I am a Marriott platinum member and am shooting for Ambassador status next year. Hopefully, once Covid is done, the service will be back up to what it was. A friend of mine warns me that Marriott supports the Mormon church big time (if that bothers you, do not use their hotels) but all I know is every time I am at a Marriott the beds are comfortable (and great for fucking), there is always hot water, and the food is always excellent. Once we see Covid in the rear view mirror, the hotel lounges open up and those with Marriott Platinum and above eat in their VIP lounges for free. These VIP perks really do impress the ladies. I use my Marriott Visa a lot. I think the hotel credit cards offer up better perks than the airline ones do.

If you go to Colombia, you would be hard pressed to find hotels more impressive to women than the Medellin Marriott and the Bogota Marriott. The Medellin Marriott is more of a stickler for guests though. In Bogota, you just have to register the women. Well, I am headed to Bogota, and my points were used up, and I looked at the Bogota Marriott and it was $250 a night. I then saw a prepaid option, and it was only $97 a night so I booked it. Make sure with all hotels now you check out the prepaid option as there can be huge savings.

Another trick I used was on miles. There are not that many airlines that fly to Colombia or have that many flights, but one that does is American Airlines, and they fly direct from Dallas, but I got tired of their fees and restrictions. I used my American Express card points and signed up for British Airways. A one way ticket to Colombia that would have been $80 and 18,000 points on American was $20 and 13,000 points on British Airways, and it is on the same American flight! So I transferred my American Express points to British Airways and booked the ticket. I wonder if this trick could be used with Delta and United partners. I have not checked into that yet.

For my flight back, I looked at flying United to Houston direct. The price was $1500 one way, but it was only $500 if I went through Houston to Dallas. So I plan to "miss" the flight to Dallas. I have noticed this is often the case with Delta in Atlanta and American in Dallas too: a flight with a connection is cheaper than one to the main hub.

With Mexico, I do not recommend this unless it is last minute. In general, flights from American cities do not vary much to Mexico if planned in advance, but with last minute fares, it is best to fly or drive and walk across to a border city (Juarez, Reynosa, or Tijuana) and fly within Mexico. Flights within Mexico, even last minute ones, rarely exceed $200 or $300 whereas last minute flights from the USA can easily cost you $1000. With Mexican airlines, best to worst is Aeromexico, Interjet, Volaris, and then Viva.

And with all Latin America flights, make sure to check what flights cost from Miami or Fort Lauderdale. A lot of the time the airline fare calculators miss a cheap combination like SW air to Fort Lauderdale and say Jetblue to the Latin city of your choice. When I looked at flying to Brazil, connecting in Florida halved the price of the ticket.

And finally for you Colombia aficionados, make sure to check out Wingo Airlines. It is a low cost carrier in Colombia, and I actually liked their planes and service. International flights with Wingo are often half of what Latam or Avianca charges. If you plan it right, you can fly your favorite Colombian chica to Cancun for $250 or so. I do not recommend flying them to Mexico City for the first time though. Customs in CDMX with Colombianas is brutal. After they have been to Mexico once or twice, then I would consider flying them to CDMX.

The women in Cancun on seeking and the escorts charge USA prices so it is cost effective to bring in a Colombiana or Mexican chica to Cancun. If you fly a Latina into Monterrey, Guadalajara, Mexico City, or Tijuana, if someone accused you of bringing sand to the beach, you may have to plead guilty.

[BrizLad]

Brizlad,

Are you in Brisbane? Besides the mongering scene, what is it like to live in Brisbane relative to Sydney and Melbourne?

At this point in time.

Melbourne has been plagued by rolling lockdowns. The legal situation on parlours is not as flexible.

Sydney the P4 P scene is vibrant with a tolerate RNT scene that extends into FS. I had some great experiences when traveling to Syd on business before Covid. I will be there again I expect in the next few months.

Brisbane I have to do what I can. My aCNNctivities are a mix of SA and RNT. My local venues that I frequent will offer naked BBBJ with CIM for $150 on top of the shop fee. So AUD $210 gives a nice one hour. Girls that offer FS will ask $200 tip.

After I wrote my report last night I had a great offer of one girl $350 overnight. She had no other offers and I guess she is the example of the ones that reward the patience. She knows she will go hone richer and have been a professionally fucked for the night.

Local Brisbane Mongers with a current membership are welcome to message me and swap notes on SA opportunities.

Cheers.

Brizlad.

[Midwestern]

Excellent report and it is awesome that you have been successful on SA so far. And yes, the girls also told me that there are a lot of creeps, fuck wits, and time wasters on SA. If a guy is none of these things, and patiently spends some time on SA, then he will get rewared on a regular basis.

From the girls point of view they say there are lots of creeps, fuck wits and time wasters.

Seems life flies on.

Brizlad.

[AmorPorFavor]

Has anybody used the Pinger app with an iphone for setting up a separate phone number to communicate with SB's?

[WyattEarp]

I kicked off a paid membership again here on Australia. Last time was about 6 months ago. Paid my money on a Thursday afternoon and was fucking a former beauty queen the following day. Pretty happy with that..............
Brizlad.

Brizlad,

Are you in Brisbane? Besides the mongering scene, what is it like to live in Brisbane relative to Sydney and Melbourne?

[BrizLad]

I kicked off a paid membership again here on Australia. Last time was about 6 months ago. Paid my money on a Thursday afternoon and was fucking a former beauty queen the following day. Pretty happy with that.

The experience was a lot different from my previous times. Currently, Australia has strong border controls which is limiting the traditional intake of foreign students and for the local girls they cannot take their overseas holidays. Unemployment has stayed under control here but there are many hospitality workers feeling the pinch. All of these factors are feeding a good supply of girls to the site.

The first week of my activity was the busiest. Whether SA optimize the experience or the girls reply to the new blood guy on the site.

Of course there are the dreamers and unrealistic offers. But in amongst the noise there are some very nice girls.

My beauty queen.

She has gained a little weight for her catwalk days. But she has deportment, preparation and of course looks good in heels. She can host me each week so a very good option.

Marketing manager.

A local medium sized business where she has a professional job. Met her for a breakfast before work. Nice corporate outfit. Called me about 10 pm that same night and invited me over for a hug. Turned into a freebie CIM BBBJ. A keeper but can only host at night.

Bisexual wife.

A lady in a same sex marriage hunting for her share of cock. Supper nice attractive woman but a bit the setup is too complex for me.

Recently separate Filipina.

Alone form her family and recently separated from her partner. Nice girl. I've offered to host. I've accepted her asking price at the higher end of my budget range. She seems to be active on the site. Not sure if she's just happy playing and not getting the money shots. I don't know.

Assistant manager.

This one works night and is free in the day. A vibrant overachiever. Got along so well over coffee meeting. We have both agreed to move into an arrangement. Just taking time to schedule with her job.

Single mum.

Of course most of the site here is single mums. This one is a little different. Doesn't seem to be jaded by men. Starting with a coffee date soon but she is hard to get commitment. Has cancelled once already. Will now for sure next Monday.

Overall there are many opportunities that are ready to start.

From the girls point of view they say there are lots of creeps, fuck wits and time wasters.

Seems life flies on.

Brizlad.

[Luminous]

That was very helpful, now I understand what you meant.

Atlanta is tougher than other cities because there are fewer non HOT DEALs listed. But here is an example where the stats of the deal exactly match the Omni. You can take the deal and get the Omni for sure.

Often it will show miles from search and number of Expedia reviews which is even more exact match.Once it said here is a pic of the actual hotel room. Usually u can't tell one from the other. In the pic tho the TV had a Hilton welcome screen. Duh and sure enough I got the Hilton. LOL.

[Pessimist]

I have been trying SA in US for the past few weeks and I have to say it's a nightmare so far. I saw a report from Steve where he had great luck. But my experience so far has not been good.

Chicks that look terrible somehow feel they are worth 400-500 because one time someone payed them that much. I have had some of them ask for 800. Can have a date with them once or twice at 400-500 but seems too high for a regular basis. I feel most of the chicks ready some BS article online about how much SB's are getting paid and expect the same amount forgetting you have to factor in how you look and other variables.

Had this one chick who wanted money just for talking because apparently she has a friend with a SD in upstate New York that has never seen her but sends her money week. So not this one is trying to find one like that too.

Then there are ones that are just trying to get a feel but haven't made up their mind. Waste of time.

Any tips / tricks you guys can share to make the experience better?

Depends on the location. I have been on SA since early 2016 I think. Since Covid struck, I'm staying away but I was active for 4 years. 400+ is high for most cities, except a few on the coasts. I can't say if attitudes have changed in the past year. These days our government is giving away a lot of easy money and many employees are staying home. Perhaps that same thinking has seeped into SA girls. But otherwise, no, you should have plenty of success for less than 400 in normal times in a vast majority of this country. That said, if you think you will flash your see notes and girls will open their legs, well think again. Around here, it takes time and patience. This message has been drilled into these pages many times and is fairly intuitive but for some reason, guys keep forgetting the time factor.

[DonCarlos1234]

Yeah, grab a passport and get the hell out of the USA sex prison.

Sorry, if that is obvious, but I cannot support these selfish American wenches.

I went to a strip club in my area for the first time in forever. This past year, I was in Tijuana at Hong Kong doing a 10 on a bed for $100. At La Isla in Medellin, it was $80 again in a decent room with a bed. These Cuban wenches, maybe a 7 and a 8, wanted $400 a piece to have sex on a crummy fake leather covered stall, and they would not go down which told me guys are paying it. I passed.

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You know we are so lucky. I will PM you the details after this weekend. Going to HKTJ out of boredom. Because it will be July 10 before I land in Medellin. In my stupidity I asked a SA girlfriend in Bogota what other girls are charging currently. She says, WHAT! No, I don't care what other girls charge. And silence till I asked, what about You & I have dinner then 4-5 hours in the room with benefits. She replied 600,000 COP She's a 10. BBBJ doesn't even need to ask. Gorgeous. I can hardly wait to leave Medellin. And she also said there have been NO customers for her. Only trolls. This makes no sense to me.

[Midwestern]

When I was active on SA in the USA, I spent around 20 hours per week on it. You cannot zero in on only a few that you like. It is a numbers game. Every day, I would reach out to about two or three dozen gals, and then wait to see if I get any positive responses, and then follow up on those. Over an 18 month period, I hooked up with about 23-25 gals. So, on average, each month, I spent around 100 hours on the SA site, and I would hook up with 1 or 2 gals. Was it worth it? Well, I enjoyed the game. For the most part, I thought it was pretty exciting and fun. If being on the site by itself is a chore and a grind, then it may not be worth it. And I hooked up with some great gals. So, I would say that it was worth it for me. But it is a lot of time! That's for sure. Even Steve will say that SA in the USA takes a lot of time. BTW, the rates depends on where you are. There's been a lot of good intel on this forum about pricing in different places. Good luck!

I have been trying SA in US for the past few weeks and I have to say it's a nightmare so far. I saw a report from Steve where he had great luck. But my experience so far has not been good.

Chicks that look terrible somehow feel they are worth 400-500 because one time someone payed them that much. I have had some of them ask for 800. Can have a date with them once or twice at 400-500 but seems too high for a regular basis. I feel most of the chicks ready some BS article online about how much SB's are getting paid and expect the same amount forgetting you have to factor in how you look and other variables.

Had this one chick who wanted money just for talking because apparently she has a friend with a SD in upstate New York that has never seen her but sends her money week. So not this one is trying to find one like that too.

Then there are ones that are just trying to get a feel but haven't made up their mind. Waste of time.

Any tips / tricks you guys can share to make the experience better?

[Elvis 2008]

How big is language an issue? I can probable work around hotels and restaurants, but what about the girls.

Most Mexican girls speak some English. However, I have been using google translate and as long as you have a good signal on your phone and are in a quiet place, you can converse with it quite normally. Google Translate has opened up a whole new world to me. They say the internet grew due to demand for porn. I wonder if the pursuit of pussy will change the way we communicate with each other. I have been so excited getting pussy I did not realize how revolutionary what I was doing truly was.

Microsoft has a free translator program too but it is not as good.

But it changed everything with me and pursuit of Latina pussy.

[AmericanPi]

How big is language an issue? I can probable work around hotels and restaurants, but what about the girls.

Language is in a way a negotiation of power. I mean it's obv better if you can get around in the local language but if you don't speak it you don't speak it. Beyond that, it's a matter who needs / wants the other more.

If a girls wants and needs your attention and money, she will put up with the discomfort of just hammering through those awkward Google translate conversations. A middle class hot girl with other options probably won't, but the one who really needs your 300 bucks probably will. And you'll deal with it for a girl out of your league otherwise, but it'll just be a means to an end. A girl 2 points lower on the looks scale would be preferable if you needed to spend time with her if she spoke your language.

[Steve 9696]

Atlanta is tougher than other cities because there are fewer non HOT DEALs listed. But here is an example where the stats of the deal exactly match the Omni. You can take the deal and get the Omni for sure.

Often it will show miles from search and number of Expedia reviews which is even more exact match.Once it said here is a pic of the actual hotel room. Usually u can't tell one from the other. In the pic tho the TV had a Hilton welcome screen. Duh and sure enough I got the Hilton. LOL.