Seeking Arrangements

[Nounce]

...I don't think youtubers affect the market in any way, since not all of them are mongers, and they are just a small fraction of tourists coming to BA...

I made the comment independent of price. I am saying it is pretty well known already. Anyway, it is an amazing city to visit, very walkable and so easy to get a good dinner late, and nice cafes everywhere. Things are even cheaper outside of the capital. To me, the only things better in Medellin is girls, and perhaps the weather. Summer is hot in BA.

... I wonder if in the pandemic that would have been less than 30 minutes. ...

Rush hour is still bad. Off peak will take less time but I think it will be more than 30 minutes. There is another domestic airport nearby.

There is a subway from the airport so that can be a reliabe way to avoid traffic. That is why I frequently take subway to avoid the traffic and have uber waiting for me at the stion when I exit.

There were 2 clubs in Argentina that were like the boates in Sao Paulo ...

There are still a couple of clubs left. One is better but more expensive. The total number of girls probably is less than 40 when I visited.

...Thing about using currencies is that may not work in Argentina because it has become like a barter economy. Because the peso has been such toilet paper, people have been using other instruments to trade goods and services..

Some Businesses have US credit card merchant accounts so they can keep US $ in their US accounts. I think the government does not see all the money from these transactions. I guess some real estate transactions is the same way. I was told the long term rental contract is made up of multiple short term contracts with depreciation priced in when paid in pesos.

[Akibono]

I got a SA account for over a month now but only upgraded to a paid membership a week ago since they ran a promotion. Thanks to our Jedi Masters (Steve, Cane and the others) here in this forum, I was at least able to navigate around the minefields. Never mention about p4 p on the platform, talk to them outside on WhatsApp etc the first chance etc.

I am definitely still a Padawan here if I can even call myself that, hehehe. My intent is partly learn how to use this platform effectively and partly collect all the girls contacts from the different countries I plan to visit in the near future while at it.

I am hoping for any advice on leveraging this for the local scene, I. E in the US. Do you guys set a city location near where you live in SA or somewhere else? Do you initiate contact most of the time? I don't feel comfortable doing so with anyone under 21. I do hope SA does an age check that they are all above 18. Anyway, that is the demographics that tend to show up a lot in the search. What sort of icebreakers?

Anyway, sharing some of my experience that I had with SA so far.

- Almost all the girls outside the US are straight to the point as soon as they get to a chance. They would ask what kind of arrangement that you want to have the first chance they get. No patience for small talk to build up any connection. Sometimes, I would just pass. Somehow, I was just put off by this lack of patience. I would collect their info and may just contact them when the time comes..

If they don't want to chat, they are pros.

[AsianPursuits]

The person had already deactivated their account on the site, so no need to block them there.

If it's just deactivated then they will be back to use that profile at another time in another place.

I think seeking could do a lot better to screen out the scammers. I can attest to at least 5 profiles in my local search which are all scammers. Surprising how many beautiful attractive girls can be bitcoin investment gurus. More surprising is the number of horny guys that still fall for them.

[Elvis 2008]

Hi. Just curious how much you guys are providing for SA's in Bogota or other places in Colombia. The one's that want to discuss the prices ask for 800 mil pesos or 1,325 mill pesos which I feel is very high but your get insights from members here.

Way, way, way too much. Most I ever paid was $140 for 2 hours. Both gals were 9's who let me bareback them, and in hindsight I felt like I overpaid. I recommend you hang with gals that do not mention price. Most gals I gave $80 or $100. This was for multiple hours with rare condom usage.

Thing about Bogota for every 5 gals you are chatting with, 4 will disappear by the time you get there so I would not start chatting until like one or two weeks before you are ready to go.

[Ggekko2009]

I got a SA account for over a month now but only upgraded to a paid membership a week ago since they ran a promotion. Thanks to our Jedi Masters (Steve, Cane and the others) here in this forum, I was at least able to navigate around the minefields. Never mention about p4 p on the platform, talk to them outside on WhatsApp etc the first chance etc.

I am definitely still a Padawan here if I can even call myself that, hehehe. My intent is partly learn how to use this platform effectively and partly collect all the girls contacts from the different countries I plan to visit in the near future while at it.

I am hoping for any advice on leveraging this for the local scene, I. E in the US. Do you guys set a city location near where you live in SA or somewhere else? Do you initiate contact most of the time? I don't feel comfortable doing so with anyone under 21. I do hope SA does an age check that they are all above 18. Anyway, that is the demographics that tend to show up a lot in the search. What sort of icebreakers?

Anyway, sharing some of my experience that I had with SA so far.

- Almost all the girls outside the US are straight to the point as soon as they get to a chance. They would ask what kind of arrangement that you want to have the first chance they get. No patience for small talk to build up any connection. Sometimes, I would just pass. Somehow, I was just put off by this lack of patience. I would collect their info and may just contact them when the time comes.

- Girls in the US rarely use WhatsApp and usually their first or second chat statement will be, text me at this number etc. For girls outside the US, I would usually have to ask their WhatsApp for it. Some use Telegram.

- I even got a message from an agency who claimed that they have a connection of girls etc. I think after a short while, that account was summarily banned, since I can no longer see that message in my SA inbox.

Anyway, I am still learning and sharing back my experience at the same time. No ROI on the use of this platform yet.

[Steve 9696]

Glad you did not fall for it. In general, I never transfer money to these gals, because it can be used as evidence. And, I also try to avoid dinner meet and greets. I usually meet for a quick coffee during the day, or a drink at night. This way, neither of us are that committed. If she needed money for a cab, then I would offer to give her cash upon her arrival, but to avoid this, I almost always suggested meeting some place that was very close to her. A lot of SA gals ask for cash transfer ahead of meeting. I always passed on it, even if it was only for $30, mostly to avoid there being any evidence of a transaction. Finally, that was awesome that you still enjoyed yourself. I always had a plan be, in case the gal does not show up, which was often.

Def there are girls (?) who will be as elaborate as to chat for a while and set a meetup and then hit you up for gas money or something. However in my experience most scammers don't go to this level of effort and engagement. I had this happen twice back to back in 2020 but not since. I suppose I've meetup with about 40 ish (and sealed the deal with 35 ish). So I guess that's a 5% elaborate scam rate. So certainly not often. And zero percent in the last few years. And one of the two no way I would have driven anywhere now that I am better at this. But the one was darn thorough and persistent and may have gotten me out to this day (tho of course I didn't fall for sending money).

[Luminous]

Hi. Just curious how much you guys are providing for SA's in Bogota or other places in Colombia. The one's that want to discuss the prices ask for 800 mil pesos or 1,325 mill pesos which I feel is very high but your get insights from members here.

[The Cane]

Glad you did not fall for it. In general, I never transfer money to these gals, because it can be used as evidence. And, I also try to avoid dinner meet and greets. I usually meet for a quick coffee during the day, or a drink at night. This way, neither of us are that committed. If she needed money for a cab, then I would offer to give her cash upon her arrival, but to avoid this, I almost always suggested meeting some place that was very close to her. A lot of SA gals ask for cash transfer ahead of meeting. I always passed on it, even if it was only for $30, mostly to avoid there being any evidence of a transaction. Finally, that was awesome that you still enjoyed yourself. I always had a plan be, in case the gal does not show up, which was often.

Yes, I never transfer money through those cash apps, and I never pay out any money to anybody before we meet. Those are two of my red lines that I won't cross. Also, I'm like you in that I try to meet in places that are close to where the girl lives. This tends to work out great, but what I have found is that a lot of girls lie about where they live too in order to throw anybody off (like any authorities). In this case, we were supposed to meet in the suburb where the person said "she" lived (very close to me), and "she" said she had a car. That's why I needed to pay for $200 worth of gas plus a sitter LMAO! It was easy for me to have a laugh about it all. I hadn't eaten much that day, so I had an appetite, plus I'm still barebacking Abby. Salute! LOL!

[Midwestern]

Glad you did not fall for it. In general, I never transfer money to these gals, because it can be used as evidence. And, I also try to avoid dinner meet and greets. I usually meet for a quick coffee during the day, or a drink at night. This way, neither of us are that committed. If she needed money for a cab, then I would offer to give her cash upon her arrival, but to avoid this, I almost always suggested meeting some place that was very close to her. A lot of SA gals ask for cash transfer ahead of meeting. I always passed on it, even if it was only for $30, mostly to avoid there being any evidence of a transaction. Finally, that was awesome that you still enjoyed yourself. I always had a plan be, in case the gal does not show up, which was often.

Well not quite. Fellas, I have one that I know you're going to want to hear, and I couldn't wait until my monthly report to tell you about it. So, I started communicating with somebody on SA about a week ago. Supposedly a late 20's white female, single mom, big round blue eyes how I like, and straight brown hair. Overall attractive. We moved from the site to text, and at some point I asked if "she" wanted to chat by phone. I say "she" because no telling who I was really talking to. But no response, but still not necessarily a red flag either because most of my communications with anybody I have contacted off of the site have been by text. Just like with my grand slam homeroom "Abby" who I already told you about. But, I took note.

So anyway, we set up a dinner date as a meet and greet. On the day of the dinner date, I texted her to confirm that we were still on, and she said yes. Cool! Just before I was on my way later on that day, I texted her again to say I was out the door and expected to be at the place in about 30 minutes. She said she was ready too, and just need to drop her child off at the sitter and buy some gas. My premonition? At some point, this person is going to ask me to pay for her sitter and gas! OK, so I get to the restaurant and send her a text saying that I have arrived. Then wouldn't you know it but "she" responds asking if I thought I could help her with the gas and her sitter! Here we go, here we go, here we go! I decided to play along to see where things ultimately were going to go.

So, I asked her (again all by text) how much "she" needed. I said that I didn't have any cash on me, but that I could probably find an ATM somewhere, and that perhaps maybe even the restaurant had an ATM on premises. And the response? The person asked for $200 for gas and the sitter! Not outrageously excessive (like $500), but pretty excessive nevertheless. So then comes, "Do you have a cash app"? So that I could transfer money directly via an app versus pulling cash out of an ATM and giving it to her upon arrival! At this point, I've seen enough, and it's time to call bullshit on some bullshit! I said "no", I do not have a cash app (true), and I asked, "Are you coming here, because this feels like a scam to me". Long pause then, "Well, I will have to sort this out before I can come". And then my last words before blocking this asshole? Nice try! The person had already deactivated their account on the site, so no need to block them there.

The knee-deep bullshit you have to wade through on SA to find a diamond! Can't believe I did in just my first month! Anyway, I was already at the restaurant, so I stayed and ordered up a nice dinner. That is, after I had a good LOL laughing out loud to myself about what had just transpired. People might have looked at me funny, I don't know. But, I just had to laugh at what had just happened. Had I been stupid enough to send $200, "she" would have just taken my money, then "ghosted" me. Nope! I got the last laugh! Literally. Carry on!

[Nounce]

...I'm wondering why is it so pricey...

The more attractive girls are expensive and the quantity is limited. I think they set their price in USD so exchange rate does not affect their price. The low end is under US $20 so there are cheap options but they are very unattractive. Colombia is far better at the same price point.

[The Cane]

Well not quite. Fellas, I have one that I know you're going to want to hear, and I couldn't wait until my monthly report to tell you about it. So, I started communicating with somebody on SA about a week ago. Supposedly a late 20's white female, single mom, big round blue eyes how I like, and straight brown hair. Overall attractive. We moved from the site to text, and at some point I asked if "she" wanted to chat by phone. I say "she" because no telling who I was really talking to. But no response, but still not necessarily a red flag either because most of my communications with anybody I have contacted off of the site have been by text. Just like with my grand slam homeroom "Abby" who I already told you about. But, I took note.

So anyway, we set up a dinner date as a meet and greet. On the day of the dinner date, I texted her to confirm that we were still on, and she said yes. Cool! Just before I was on my way later on that day, I texted her again to say I was out the door and expected to be at the place in about 30 minutes. She said she was ready too, and just need to drop her child off at the sitter and buy some gas. My premonition? At some point, this person is going to ask me to pay for her sitter and gas! OK, so I get to the restaurant and send her a text saying that I have arrived. Then wouldn't you know it but "she" responds asking if I thought I could help her with the gas and her sitter! Here we go, here we go, here we go! I decided to play along to see where things ultimately were going to go.

So, I asked her (again all by text) how much "she" needed. I said that I didn't have any cash on me, but that I could probably find an ATM somewhere, and that perhaps maybe even the restaurant had an ATM on premises. And the response? The person asked for $200 for gas and the sitter! Not outrageously excessive (like $500), but pretty excessive nevertheless. So then comes, "Do you have a cash app"? So that I could transfer money directly via an app versus pulling cash out of an ATM and giving it to her upon arrival! At this point, I've seen enough, and it's time to call bullshit on some bullshit! I said "no", I do not have a cash app (true), and I asked, "Are you coming here, because this feels like a scam to me". Long pause then, "Well, I will have to sort this out before I can come". And then my last words before blocking this asshole? Nice try! The person had already deactivated their account on the site, so no need to block them there.

The knee-deep bullshit you have to wade through on SA to find a diamond! Can't believe I did in just my first month! Anyway, I was already at the restaurant, so I stayed and ordered up a nice dinner. That is, after I had a good LOL laughing out loud to myself about what had just transpired. People might have looked at me funny, I don't know. But, I just had to laugh at what had just happened. Had I been stupid enough to send $200, "she" would have just taken my money, then "ghosted" me. Nope! I got the last laugh! Literally. Carry on!

[Elvis 2008]

We have just discussed the going rates with Steve, and he said $200 in BA is the norm, which is in line with what you are saying (Gusto price). I'm wondering why is it so pricey, when everything else seems to be relatively cheap (housing, food, taxi, etc. , the only major expense is airfare. Puta economy. Less business = higher rates? Or different mentality that has been discussed previously. Women don't consider themselves poor or in need, and therefore put a higher price tag on pussy?

I don't think youtubers affect the market in any way, since not all of them are mongers, and they are just a small fraction of tourists coming to BA, the number of which is still super low compared to pre-pandemic levels.

There were 2 clubs in Argentina that were like the boates in Sao Paulo 10,15 years ago. Thing is when I went they were cheaper back then than Brazil. Madaho's and Black's had like a 100 women between them, an endless parade of 8's and a few 9's. Best looking woman I took from there was Brazilian and best performer was Paraguayan. I am kicking myself for passing on a Dominican there though. I remember paying $50 an hour or $100 for the night. The top women wanted $200 for the night. You had to take them back to a hotel but it was never an issue then.

The government cracked down on prostitution and shut these clubs down. Whenever they do that, and there is more risk, the price goes up.

But even the hotels are nuts. The hotel I stayed in back then in BA was $75 and it is now $180. In Mendoza, the price has gone from $75 to $440.

Thing about using currencies is that may not work in Argentina because it has become like a barter economy. Because the peso has been such toilet paper, people have been using other instruments to trade goods and services.

That said, Mendoza, Salta, the glacier, Iguazu are fucking stunning. And Bariloche and the whole Patagonia region (extends to Chile) may be the most beautiful place on earth.

If I was looking at doing a seeking trip and wanted bargains in Argentina, I would look at Cordoba. It is cheaper than BA and has tons of college students, but again, the numbers on SA are not what they are in BA.

But the cheap pussy is going to be in the other regions. I fucked an eighteen year old Caucasian 8 in Asuncion at a casa for $10. Yeah, there are places in Colombia and Mexico that cheap, but IMO the quality was not there like Asuncion.

You will pay more for pussy there than Colombia, and the women in general will not be as sweet, and I do not think they are as good in bed.

There was one Argentine I banged that was great. The rest were forgettable.

[Elvis 2008]

SP has many more upscale bars and restaurants. The affluent area with park is quite nice too.

Would you go back if the women there were all dogs though? I wouldn't. I would go to Rio again and Florianopolis but not there.

That said, it was a mistake not going there during the pandemic. I was talking to a few 10 types from SA there. A lot were on line because they were hurting financially.

When Medellin was in lockdown, I got from the airport to Poblado in like 15 minutes. With Mexico city, it was the same from Polanco to the airport. That is six miles and in rush hour, it is easily an hour or more.

I stayed in the Jardim area when I went, and it was 2 hours to get those 15 miles from the airport. I wonder if in the pandemic that would have been less than 30 minutes. I am kicking myself for not going there at least once during the pandemic. I could have explored a little more, but I was at the nicest parks and the restaurants I ate were great. I thought they were better than Rio. It is just such a pain when going five miles takes like an hour.

[MiamiBoy1]

I am saying you have good taste similar to MB1. I am talking about my on the ground experience is different. Usually the girls will have some meat, but I don't mean fat. I have researched these places a few years ago too. Argentina is already in bad shape economically before pandemic. There are actually a surprising number of mongering options in BA but it is nothing like Colombia, and the better talent is asking Gusto price. Go there to enjoy the city and cheap food, P4 P mongering should be low on the todo list. I think MB1's thinking is sound but judging by how many youtubers are in the city, that tells me many others have thought about the same thing already. I think SA can be different but that is not the norm depending on what one is seeking.

We have just discussed the going rates with Steve, and he said $200 in BA is the norm, which is in line with what you are saying (Gusto price). I'm wondering why is it so pricey, when everything else seems to be relatively cheap (housing, food, taxi, etc. , the only major expense is airfare. Puta economy. Less business = higher rates? Or different mentality that has been discussed previously. Women don't consider themselves poor or in need, and therefore put a higher price tag on pussy?

I don't think youtubers affect the market in any way, since not all of them are mongers, and they are just a small fraction of tourists coming to BA, the number of which is still super low compared to pre-pandemic levels.

[AsianPursuits]

Do you guys keep a list of your contacts outside of Seeking. I have been keeping a Word doc which lists the girl's seeking name, real name, number, a few key points and a pic. I've also started keeping a direct link to their seeking profile page.

Seems hard to keep track of them if they disable or delete their profile and I lost all contact.