Seeking Arrangements

[AmericanPi]

That's a interesting take. Thanks for sharing it.

When I'm in Latin America every girl I'm with talks about how fed up they are with machismo so I just play the opposite card: "oh, yeah. How great you went to that women's rights March.". And that always always gets them. How different from their machismo locals.

But separately, I can see that I am able to take these girls to nice dinners and keep a good conversation. I just wonder how much they see the age gap when we are undressed and my salt and pepper pubes are on display. I'm just being honest here. I look good for my age, but when it gets to naked the age difference becomes a lot clearer.

Good to hear your take.

Dude. You are seriously underestimating yourself. I am SIXTY (look younger) and ALL the girls I see are 22-24. I don't even see 20 year olds can't drink. And 25 is bordering into the more inhibited late twenties zone. So I have a near 40 year age gap and it doesn't matter. If anything it helps do you know what it's like to be with a hot 25 year old guy?

Boring. Self centered. Immature. Cums too fast. Has no money. The list goes on. These girls (the gems) are on seeking because they can't stand the immaturity of a guy their age. They like being with a charming older man who isn't half bad looking. Why the fuck would lovely 24 year old law student Sylvia spend 40 hours with me for 700 and want to repeat if she didn't actually enjoy being with me.

It took me a couple years to figure out that these 22-24 year olds actually like me for me and enjoy hanging out with me. It's quite a revelation and only makes it better as your confidence grows. Dude you totally can pull the 20-25 crowd overnight for no extra cash and no negotiation. Youre a catch! And the more u realize it the more attractive u become..

[Steve 9696]

Maybe. But let me tell you my situation. I'm actually a fairly attractive guy and quite a good conversationalist. But my weakness is I like 20-25 year old women, and I'm mid 40's. I have to be honest with myself. No matter how good I am, they would rather be banging a 25 year old dude. So I can't just rely on my wit and looks to get a girl to elect to stay the night for free. If that's what I want I feel I need to make it clear that's the exchange I'm looking for. It works for me but it's unique to my situation. If I'm.

Hopefully doing this when I'm 65 I will probably need to up the ante even more.

Dude. You are seriously underestimating yourself. I am SIXTY (look younger) and ALL the girls I see are 22-24. I don't even see 20 year olds can't drink. And 25 is bordering into the more inhibited late twenties zone. So I have a near 40 year age gap and it doesn't matter. If anything it helps do you know what it's like to be with a hot 25 year old guy?

Boring. Self centered. Immature. Cums too fast. Has no money. The list goes on. These girls (the gems) are on seeking because they can't stand the immaturity of a guy their age. They like being with a charming older man who isn't half bad looking. Why the fuck would lovely 24 year old law student Sylvia spend 40 hours with me for 700 and want to repeat if she didn't actually enjoy being with me.

It took me a couple years to figure out that these 22-24 year olds actually like me for me and enjoy hanging out with me. It's quite a revelation and only makes it better as your confidence grows. Dude you totally can pull the 20-25 crowd overnight for no extra cash and no negotiation. Youre a catch! And the more u realize it the more attractive u become.

PS. Ive also realized that just as I crave affection (not just sex) so do these girls. Not only do they want to cuddle and spoon and be held by a man. They often text me for weeks or months or even years afterwards just sweet nothings and pics of them or their lives here or there. They like feeling like someone out there cares about them for more than their looks. As I get up this morning I am looking forward to a sweet good morning text from Sylvia and maybe one from my home girl too. It always makes me smile.

[AsianPursuits]

Is there any concrete theory on which attributes seeking uses when to disconitnue access.

In January I had a seeking account which was banned due to the generic solicitation reason.

Fast forward to now and I want to find a new set of SB as I've exhausted by previous list garnered in January.

Last week I set up a new account, perfected my profile and had a browse at some likely candidates.

Thursday I submitted credit card details for a monthly subscription. Immediately I am logged out. I try to login again and it just says account is suspended. I also received an email saying it's suspended.

Unique.

A) Email address is new and not used previously.

B) Profile Picture is unique and not the same me.

C) Credit card new digits, card never used online before.

Same.

D) Card holder details, real name and address, same.

E) Browser & IP address the same as previous access.

Now I'm wondering will I try again with a new email and new card digits, or will I also need a VPN.

Any experience shares?

[AmericanPi]

Maybe. But let me tell you my situation. I'm actually a fairly attractive guy and quite a good conversationalist. But my weakness is I like 20-25 year old women, and I'm mid 40's. I have to be honest with myself. No matter how good I am, they would rather be banging a 25 year old dude. So I can't just rely on my wit and looks to get a girl to elect to stay the night for free. If that's what I want I feel I need to make it clear that's the exchange I'm looking for. It works for me but it's unique to my situation. If I'm.

Hopefully doing this when I'm 65 I will probably need to up the ante even more.

Yeah I guess it works either way but for me half the fun is the ego boost of knowing she chose to stay for not a dime more. It's kinda part of the thrill of the chase. I would think a pre negotiated overnight would lead to higher prices as well but to be fair I have no experience to base that on.

To each his own on this one I guess!

[Steve 9696]

I actually do this a little bit differently. I set clear expectations before the date. Like I will explicitly say this date is until 1 am, or you will spend the night. I have never once had someone say they object to my being so clear. That doesn't mean they always agree. Often we will have a brief exchange on how long the girl is committed to stay. But I never assume we will just figure it out. I always lay out the expected time commitment.

Yeah I guess it works either way but for me half the fun is the ego boost of knowing she chose to stay for not a dime more. It's kinda part of the thrill of the chase. I would think a pre negotiated overnight would lead to higher prices as well but to be fair I have no experience to base that on.

To each his own on this one I guess!

[AmericanPi]

I actually do this a little bit differently. I set clear expectations before the date. Like I will explicitly say this date is until 1 am, or you will spend the night. I have never once had someone say they object to my being so clear. That doesn't mean they always agree. Often we will have a brief exchange on how long the girl is committed to stay. But I never assume we will just figure it out. I always lay out the expected time commitment.

This is seeking mate! It's up to you both, mostly her, how long she stays. It's considered fine if U don't vibe that you part after dinner for no cash. Hasn't happened to me often but does happen occasionally, esp if she is over 25. But if she likes you she will keep on and just let it flow. Sometimes that means go back to the room and fuck and she heads home. Maybe a 3-4 hour date. Sometimes u hit another bar or go out dancing. Sometimes she'll sleep over. There is no extra charge for this. She will only do it if she wants to. I'd say a bit over 50% of my girls do.

Sylvia and I agreed we'd do her 400 night 1 and my 300 night two if we repeated. Now that I know her I woulda easily done 400-500 both nights. So that meant it was 700 for our FORTY hours together. We were inseparable. But just like she likes me I like her. So we only stayed together for a quick overnight later in the week cuz of my plane but I gave her 400. Didnt have to. But Better she have that extra hundred than me.

[Steve 9696]

Thanks for this, it's helpful. But for how long or often? Is this for one meeting / outing? That seems too good to be true for a long date or overnight. And especially for something like the 2-day date you described. I get that sometimes it might just be a quick meeting, so maybe it evens out. But does a girl expect you to keep paying more, if your time lasts longer? Or is this a one-time thing each time you meet, and the date just goes for as long as you both like?

This is seeking mate! It's up to you both, mostly her, how long she stays. It's considered fine if U don't vibe that you part after dinner for no cash. Hasn't happened to me often but does happen occasionally, esp if she is over 25. But if she likes you she will keep on and just let it flow. Sometimes that means go back to the room and fuck and she heads home. Maybe a 3-4 hour date. Sometimes u hit another bar or go out dancing. Sometimes she'll sleep over. There is no extra charge for this. She will only do it if she wants to. I'd say a bit over 50% of my girls do.

Sylvia and I agreed we'd do her 400 night 1 and my 300 night two if we repeated. Now that I know her I woulda easily done 400-500 both nights. So that meant it was 700 for our FORTY hours together. We were inseparable. But just like she likes me I like her. So we only stayed together for a quick overnight later in the week cuz of my plane but I gave her 400. Didn’t have to. But Better she have that extra hundred than me.

Treat it like a real date. Treat her with respect. Drink and make her laugh and you are good for an overnight if you have some game. Good luck!

[NF4591]

I didn't get too many girls down to specifics but 400 seems like what they are asking. Might be able to get 300 but "our type" girls aren't going below that.

Thanks for this, it's helpful. But for how long or often? Is this for one meeting / outing? That seems too good to be true for a long date or overnight. And especially for something like the 2-day date you described. I get that sometimes it might just be a quick meeting, so maybe it evens out. But does a girl expect you to keep paying more, if your time lasts longer? Or is this a one-time thing each time you meet, and the date just goes for as long as you both like?

[AmericanPi]

I didn't get too many girls down to specifics but 400 seems like what they are asking. Might be able to get 300 but "our type" girls aren't going below that.

That sounds about right. It's like $200 normal in third world (I usually go higher) so 450-500 dollars usd is about right for first world.

[Steve 9696]

What a whirlwind. That's a great story. And why SA is so amazing.

Can I ask, what's a good gift size in UK? I've only done this in Latin America and I've always wondered how much more it is in first world countries.

I didn't get too many girls down to specifics but 400 £ seems like what they are asking. Might be able to get 300 £ but "our type" girls aren't going below that.

[DramaFree11]

Man these things happen. You didn't get nothing. You got a great story you can tell for years.

Exactly! I am definitely Video Chatting now.

[ManWithMotive]

Guys,

Just got my account blocked and banned.

Tried to open new account using different name and that too was deleted by SA.

Any advise please.

Manwithmotive.

[AmericanPi]

Man these things happen. You didn't get nothing. You got a great story you can tell for years.

So I had 2 meetings early in the day, just amazing, these girls I had met in the past. I had a dinner meeting, I was really excited about. I get text she will be arriving late, no problem, I think nothing about it. I am getting ready and I get a message that she arriving early at the restaurant, not normal, but ok. I catch my Didi, it was not the best experience, the driver was jerk. So I arrive she is cute, but does not stand up. Dinner is going will, but she will not stand up or go to the bathroom. She is drinking like a fish and eating more then me, very odd for CDMX, most of the girls eat small portions. She is all over me, that was cool. I finally have to go to the bathroom. She will not go and starts telling me needs to go, obviously she is hiding something. I probably would not have cared, but she wanted to stay at the restaurant and eat more. Finally she gets up, wow, huge ass and short. Then I get pissed. She comes back from the bathroom and said your pictures are not even close. Basically she says nothing..

[AmericanPi]

What a whirlwind. That's a great story. And why SA is so amazing.

Can I ask, what's a good gift size in UK? I've only done this in Latin America and I've always wondered how much more it is in first world countries.

Another Seeking home run. This time in London. It's amazing how a first date can become a true 40 hour girlfriend experience of lovers and best friends. Read on.

First, the good, the bad and the ugly of Seeking. Good -- great actually is Sylvia -- what a gem. But I also had to sift through piles of dead leads and one beautiful girl who strung me on with great text game and a meetup plan and hit me up for travel funds a few days before (thank her for not being last minute). But this let me go to my number 2, Sylvia, who, having met up, I am 100% confident is better than the other girl.

I met Sylvia two weeks ago on Seeking. And what a wonderful case study of how razor thin fate and decisions are. We had lovely chat, but at one point we couldn't agree price and we both walked away. Fortunately she messaged a few moments later saying she changed her mind. This AMAZING experience might not have happened but for that minor little change of heart. And she is over the moon that we met -- I was her first SA and a total home run it was in both directions.

[Steve 9696]

Another Seeking home run. This time in London. It's amazing how a first date can become a true 40 hour girlfriend experience of lovers and best friends. Read on.

First, the good, the bad and the ugly of Seeking. Good -- great actually is Sylvia -- what a gem. But I also had to sift through piles of dead leads and one beautiful girl who strung me on with great text game and a meetup plan and hit me up for travel funds a few days before (thank her for not being last minute). But this let me go to my number 2, Sylvia, who, having met up, I am 100% confident is better than the other girl.

I met Sylvia two weeks ago on Seeking. And what a wonderful case study of how razor thin fate and decisions are. We had lovely chat, but at one point we couldn't agree price and we both walked away. Fortunately she messaged a few moments later saying she changed her mind. This AMAZING experience might not have happened but for that minor little change of heart. And she is over the moon that we met -- I was her first SA and a total home run it was in both directions.

The other great thing about this date is that its living proof its not all a bunch of pros. Sylvia just finished law school and is fucking smart and articulate as fuck. She could run circles around most of us talking politics, anthropology or whatever else you might want to talk about.

As a result of being brand new to the game and having a bright future ahead, she was super paranoid about sending photos and stuff. She'd send expiring photos on a short timeline. At first I thought she might be a scammer and didn't' want to be documented but she is absolutely 100% the professional girl early in her career looking for some fun and cash is a side benefit. And fun we had.

We met up for dinner as per the usual playbook but man did it evolve to the amazing party evening after that. I know some guys just want to go back to the sack ASAP but I LOVE having a girlfriend out on the town and a really full evening (we spent 8 hrs this first night before crashing together in my room). After dinner we walked hand in hand through Hyde Park. It was getting dark and when we got to the other side, it was chained up and we had to jump the fence. What a trooper in a dress and heels!

I had to pee like the end of the world so we found the closest bar / club we could and it was in a toney part of town. Really amazing place, with hookah / shisha and a wonderful young high end vibe. There was a belly dancer and Sylvia was sorta dancing in her seat -- so I knew she was my kinda high energy girl and asked her if she wanted to go dancing. Damn, yes she did!

Well it turns out she is a wild party girl at the club and rivals the famous Thifany for being a true life spirit of energy. And I love her moxie. When we enter the club its packed body to body but she wants to get a table. I've been here before and know there are only like 2 booths and there is no way. Undeterred she takes me by the hand and wends her way to the back of the club. Theres a corner booth but it has glasses and bottle of champagne on it, but she plunks herself down anyhow. I join her and not much later someone comes and says they had poached the booth and hope it was OK and we admitted to being poachers also and all shared it. Tho we were 99% on the floor anyhow. She was just so confident poaching that booth. What attitude!

So we dance ourselves silly for a couple hours and it really brought me back to my time with Thifany. Thifany was a 9+ and Silvia is clearly an 8 but the same energy and sexy dancing vibe. We were mixing it up with others in the club. One big party.

Back in the room the sex was hot and heavy. She totally got off on DATY and fingering, with two fingers upping the intensity level significantly. As usual I was a beast to get off when mega drunk but with BJ and several rounds of fucking I finally came in mish, which I love.

I was worried because goddamn London and their tiny rooms with a single twin bed but we crashed at 3 AM as spoons and just spooned the whole night as the only practical method of sharing a twin. And it was nice. We both slept the sleep of the dead.

Breakfast the next morning was fun and comfortable but day two was even more interesting with the introduction of a work friend to the mix. (Never sexual). I thought after all the cloak and dagger she'the want to keep things private but when my friend checked in she was fine with meeting him.

This led to an amazing night of the three of us with no one feeling like a third wheel as she was equally engaging with both of us. I lost my jealousy hangup with Thifany because I woulda gone nuts otherwise but it served well here. Happy to share her all you like but I know who's fucking her tonight!

So we had an amazing dinner with vibrant conversation, some amazing drinks and then searched high and low for a club open past 11 on Sunday WTF. Literally wandered about for an hour before a pedi-cab guy said he could take us to a place open till 3 and I pay him what I feel. Sounds like a scam. But my glass half full personality paid off and he dropped us at a club and I gave him 20 which he was happy with.

This club far exceeded expectations and turned our plans completely 180. We planned to sit and talk in another quiet pub like atmosphere. But here there were no tables and the music way too loud to talk. So we adapted!

Sylvia and I joined a small handful on the dance floor and got the party started! As time went on the club filled and we were pulling wallflowers into the game, including my shy friend. Sylvia was so great. She would dance with him, even doing back grinding totally bringing him to the party. And I just loved that she's so open and free.

She was definitely the IT girl and several guys were engaging her to dance. I don't really mind but when they got too handsy I had to back them off a bit. I don't think they believed me when I said she was my girl. LOL. We kissed a couple times which I hope sent a message. On balance it was fine and non threatening tho one dude was pretty stalker like and I had to tell him to back off more than once. All in all It was another amazing night.

We left shortly after a small fight broke out at 2 AM and made our way home. Of course we were too pooped to fuck but fortunately had a BJ before dinner and didn't feel the need. Next morning we had lovely morning sex before I had to leave for the airport.

We spent less than 48 hours together but it felt like a week and was just one off the hook party. So smart. So sexy. So 24. So free. Only on Seeking baby!