Seeking Arrangements

[WyattEarp]

Honestly I believe the affection is real with some girls. But frankly I don't care. Just so long as I never know! Of course Brasileiras have a distinct advantage here where they have the unique ability to be in the moment and totally committed..

As you say, Brasileiras can be totally in the moment. Brazilian women are addictive that way. And yes, they can turn it off as fast as that and be on to the next guy. They are however almost always "with you" when you are together. I think Brasileiras have a strong sense of romance.

I'm not sure if you have said that you don't bother with SA when you are in Brazil. It's almost unnecessary. While not every Brazilian escort is going to hang out with you, there are plenty of them that like having a good time and chilling outside the bedroom.

[DramaFree11]

Once you favorite people on Seeking, you can see when they log in. So yeah, there are some who swear their loyalty to me and are on the site the next day, but there are others, in fact, I would say most who say they are only seeing me, who have given up the site. Honestly, I usually do not bring up he loyalty thing, the women do. Sure, they could get another profile if they are smart, but honestly most do not know how I track them. Even if they try to hide their logins, I can still see when they log on.

It is amusing to look at their social media accounts and see what is going on. I have a female friend who has shown me a ton of tricks with social media. It is like a law for the under 30 types to post their whole lives online. I have to be careful that the women do not post photos of us.

I usually do not even have to ask for women's Instagram accounts, the women throw them at me but forget they have given me access. I saw one with a video on it with a heart shaped frame of a guy with her and him kissing her. I asked the woman about this, and she denied this guy was her boyfriend. When I told my female friend about this, she looked at it like a challenge, checked out who was liking her IG photos, and she picked up her boyfriend in no time. She proudly said, "I am the queen bee of social media stalking."

For most women, I really do not care. If they are totally into me when we are together that is all I can ask for. I try to keep those as pay per meet hookerish types. In fact, it is actually kind of fun needling the ones that you know are playing around with others about how loyal they are to you.

For the most part I do not care either, there are rare occasions. Some try to make me jealous, but those days are pretty much gone, having too much fun. I do not look at there social media, better to not know anything, then I can play dumb.

[Steve 9696]

But isn't it fake affection that will end as soon as the money stops. The right words should be," You can get sex anywhere. You can't find an act of fake affection (like a movie) anywhere". Gold Digger is a real word.

Its important not to delude ourselves. Women are experienced at this fake affection stuff. That's how many of them find husbands to take care of them.

Honestly I believe the affection is real with some girls. But frankly I don't care. Just so long as I never know! Of course Brasileiras have a distinct advantage here where they have the unique ability to be in the moment and totally committed.

I do feel like Thifany and I had real affection. I mean we would kiss for 5 or more minutes And she would never break the liplock first. Not once. Ever. She didn't have to do that. And then she got engaged three months later. Brasileiras!

And a few other girls Ive felt strong affection with — not just in the bedroom. But as long as I don't know the truth I don't care.

[Elvis 2008]

In my experience, they are cool with it because they too are seeing other people. They just prefer not to tell you.

Once you favorite people on Seeking, you can see when they log in. So yeah, there are some who swear their loyalty to me and are on the site the next day, but there are others, in fact, I would say most who say they are only seeing me, who have given up the site. Honestly, I usually do not bring up he loyalty thing, the women do. Sure, they could get another profile if they are smart, but honestly most do not know how I track them. Even if they try to hide their logins, I can still see when they log on.

It is amusing to look at their social media accounts and see what is going on. I have a female friend who has shown me a ton of tricks with social media. It is like a law for the under 30 types to post their whole lives online. I have to be careful that the women do not post photos of us.

I usually do not even have to ask for women's Instagram accounts, the women throw them at me but forget they have given me access. I saw one with a video on it with a heart shaped frame of a guy with her and him kissing her. I asked the woman about this, and she denied this guy was her boyfriend. When I told my female friend about this, she looked at it like a challenge, checked out who was liking her IG photos, and she picked up her boyfriend in no time. She proudly said, "I am the queen bee of social media stalking."

For most women, I really do not care. If they are totally into me when we are together that is all I can ask for. I try to keep those as pay per meet hookerish types. In fact, it is actually kind of fun needling the ones that you know are playing around with others about how loyal they are to you.

[Midwestern]

Hell, I have told both of them I am seeing other people, and they are both cool with it.

Exactly. This is why I told my new GF that I'm married with a family. There was a firestorm initially, but if she's not going to be cool with it, then I needed to bail now. This is also why I prefer being with semi-pros, pros, arrangements, and MP gals. Because they are also seeing other people, and so we all know the score going into this game. I was seeing a married chick last year who had no desire of breaking up her family, and that was great. For a while, I was telling girls that I was divorced, but that could go either way, and now I believe it's best to let them know that any relationship we have may not be exclusive.

[Midwestern]

But isn't it fake affection that will end as soon as the money stops. The right words should be," You can get sex anywhere. You can't find an act of fake affection (like a movie) anywhere". Gold Digger is a real word.

Its important not to delude ourselves. Women are experienced at this fake affection stuff. That's how many of them find husbands to take care of them.

For me, the way scarier thing would be if she said I didn't have to pay her. Then I'm totally screwed because I definitely do not want a real relationship. So, I don't mind if she's giving me the affection for money. It's why I am seeking an arrangement, after all. We can go to Match for a relationship, and we can go to other websites for pros. SA and arrangements are something in-between.

[BrizLad]

. Hell, I have told both of them I am seeing other people, and they are both cool with it.

In my experience, they are cool with it because they too are seeing other people. They just prefer not to tell you.

[LatinaLover#1]

But isn't it fake affection that will end as soon as the money stops. The right words should be," You can get sex anywhere. You can't find an act of fake affection (like a movie) anywhere". Gold Digger is a real word.

Its important not to delude ourselves. Women are experienced at this fake affection stuff. That's how many of them find husbands to take care of them.

In my many years in this hobby my moto has always been: "If you fall in love on your trips, your falling in love by yourself. " Having met probably hundreds of women over my career, I will tell you, this has been very difficult to stick to more than once. Fell in love with a Carioca years ago, drop dead natural beauty resembled Jessica Alba, we went to Buzios for a few days and asked her to move in with me and she said yes. Lucky for me she saw a Garota leaving my apartment a few days later and as most of you know what a pissed off Brasilera is like. Romance over! The other was in Costa Rica from Perez Zeladon, again I was in love by myself. Finally I met a Beautiful Colombiana. A casacita, non drinker, no makeup, no fume, totally natural, brilliant student in the Nat'l University been together for over 3 years now. But here's the difference, she has never been a prepago, I think an important distinction if you looking for love. How you meet a woman has an enormous impact on the future of the relationship. Good luck, and guard your heart brothers.

[Elvis 2008]

The pics. Shoot, it is not letting me load Chica#2.

[Elvis 2008]

But isn't it fake affection that will end as soon as the money stops. The right words should be," You can get sex anywhere. You can't find an act of fake affection (like a movie) anywhere".
Its important not to delude ourselves.

With American women, the minute you stop paying, the pussy stops. Here in Mexico, I was with a Mexican woman two nights ago. We went it all night long, and she didn't ask for a dime. That was the one in the black bathing suit.

Last night, I was with the one in the bikini. She had not been good about texting or calling, and I kind of laid down the law with her. Do you want a pay per meet deal I asked or a novia / GF / SB type relationship? She wanted the latter. I paid her very little last night, but she was not expecting it. She is a Vennie and she really wants me to send money to her parents more than anything. She has modeled all over the world, and she was in a 7 year relationship she just got out of. You would think she was whoring around but when I mentioned her having a boyfriend, and that I did not care if she did, she went off on me. She told me that she was not like that. Hell, I have told both of them I am seeing other people, and they are both cool with it.

Thing is Sonic, you are like I was. You have a john mindset. Women do not like to think of themselves as working girls and get paid for it. When I go abroad, I offer nothing and see how it goes. If they bring up money, then I will offer a price. Honestly, I think the women like a man of means who can help them if they need it more than wanting to give them a wage.

Two of my Colombian chicas hit me up last week. One wanted an air fryer, and she promised, "I will cook you very good healthy things with it. ", and I sent her $50. The other told me that not being able to go to the gym was making her fat, and she depressingly showed me a small roll. She wanted a treadmill, found a good deal, and I gave her $200 for that. Is that paying for it? Maybe, but I am going to get some good food and a hotter chick because of it. The last few times I saw both of them, I did not end the date with cash.

How often will the pussy dry up when you start paying? In the USA, it is a done deal, you will be cut off, but try not paying abroad and see what happens, you might be surprised.

I get guys asking me all the time, "How much for her? And I always, "how about you start by not offering anything and see how it goes?" I do not like to feel like I am paying for it, and it may surprise you but the women do not either.

[WyattEarp]

Dood, you should always make sure they shower just before doing the deed. But the butt odor may be unavoidable. When I'm doing doggy, I always like to spread their ass cheeks so that I can get a full view, but whenever I do that, a waft of poop odor emanates. Oh well.

Steve9696, as a regular on the Brazil boards you must share my Brazil experience. Those Brazilian girls are so used to giving up anal that they have their asses washed out thoroughly before a sexual encounter. LOL.

[SonicBoom1]

You can get sex anywhere. You can't find affection anywhere - it's the most difficult to acquire - you cant just buy it outright. Enjoy it.

But isn't it fake affection that will end as soon as the money stops. The right words should be," You can get sex anywhere. You can't find an act of fake affection (like a movie) anywhere". Gold Digger is a real word.

Its important not to delude ourselves. Women are experienced at this fake affection stuff. That's how many of them find husbands to take care of them.

[Midwestern]

Kudos MW. Treat her like a girlfriend and she'll act like a girlfriend. She needs this part of the relationship. And as you are seeing, non-bedroom time can be fun when you are with a girl who:

1. Genuinely likes you.

2. Is the hottest girl in the room.

My club time with Thifany and just kicking around London with this doll on my arm were truly highlights. You can get sex anywhere. You can't find affection anywhere - it's the most difficult to acquire - you cant just buy it outright. Enjoy it.

Yeah, I do like the affection a lot. It's very satisfying. I might fall in love with her. It's not lust. She's just so warm and loving. She kept feeding me at lunch today, like we're a real couple.

FYI, I texted the receptionist today, and she still hasn't found a new job yet, and so I'll probably bareback her tomorrow. I'm probably the only guy that's she's ever prostituted herself to. On a certain level, she hates both me and herself.

[Steve 9696]

We met today. She gave me a dirty look. I apologized. She then said get ready for a slap to the face, but she just tapped me gently. I again said sorry, and I gave her my best puppy dog eyes, and she said let's never talk about this again. Then, we proceeded to spend the next 3 hours together. Just walking around, holding hands, kissing, chatting, and finally lunch. It didn't feel awkward at all.

We didn't discuss any arrangement today, because I thought it was too soon to bring it up. My only damage today was the price of a meal and my time. But I had a great time. She makes me laugh. Plus, she's just really hot. When I saw her today, it seemed like every guy around was looking at her. Well, in her skin tight jeans and skin tight shirt, you'd have to be gay not to stare at her, LOL.

But now, I'm pretty horny, so I might have to spend the afternoon with a high end pro.

Kudos MW. Treat her like a girlfriend and she'll act like a girlfriend. She needs this part of the relationship. And as you are seeing, non-bedroom time can be fun when you are with a girl who:

1. Genuinely likes you.

2. Is the hottest girl in the room.

My club time with Thifany and just kicking around London with this doll on my arm were truly highlights. You can get sex anywhere. You can't find affection anywhere - it's the most difficult to acquire - you cant just buy it outright. Enjoy it.

[Midwestern]

We met today. She gave me a dirty look. I apologized. She then said get ready for a slap to the face, but she just tapped me gently. I again said sorry, and I gave her my best puppy dog eyes, and she said let's never talk about this again. Then, we proceeded to spend the next 3 hours together. Just walking around, holding hands, kissing, chatting, and finally lunch. It didn't feel awkward at all.

We didn't discuss any arrangement today, because I thought it was too soon to bring it up. My only damage today was the price of a meal and my time. But I had a great time. She makes me laugh. Plus, she's just really hot. When I saw her today, it seemed like every guy around was looking at her. Well, in her skin tight jeans and skin tight shirt, you'd have to be gay not to stare at her, LOL.

But now, I'm pretty horny, so I might have to spend the afternoon with a high end pro.

The next day, she started her new job. Guess where? At a HJ MP. No lie. When she told me, it floored me. She then explained that she can make 3 x more money working at a HJ MP than at a regular minimum wage job. So, for two days, we had some back and forth. She was swearing that even though she'd be seeing men all day at her new job, that her heart really belonged to me and so I should trust her. Yeah right. So, I told her that we should just be friends.

Then suddenly, two days later, she quit her job. She said it was a disgusting job. No duh. Anyway, I went to see her, and when I saw her, my heart melted and we were all over each other. Later that night, she texted me that she's devoted to me and to our love, and to our future together. WTF?! I didn't know what to say. So, I just said, me too.

The next day, I decided that I needed to steer this ship into the right direction, and just have an arrangement, like what I always wanted. So, I came up with a two-part plan and acted on it.

Here's the first part.

I told her that I was already married and with a family. I knew this would cause a huge fucking firestorm, but I needed her to understand that I only wanted an arrangement. Anyway, sure enough, she was furious as hell, and I had to deal with her rage and wrath for two days. She eventually calmed down, and then she said she was going to delete my WeChat and that she was going to resume her job at the HJ MP. She said something like she now realizes that all men are disgusting, and so she might as well make a living off of it, and she also said something like those customers are disgusting, but I'm more disgusting because I'm a liar.

Here's the second part.

We now both know that we are both "bad" people. She is willing to give HJs for a living, and I am a married man but still mongers. We now know this about each other. (And hell, let's not forget that we had sex when we barely knew each other, in exchange for my paying her rent, so it's not like she was an angel ever. I'm even thinking that she might be a former pro, or at least a former HJ MP gal.) So, anyway, given that we now know that we are both "bad" people, I asked her to reconsider my initial proposal for an arrangement. She then sent me a picture of her middle finger, LOL.

But then, I tried to appeal to her sense of logic. I told her that she needs money, I need sex, and we actually like each other. (And as an aside, we both knew that we were never going to get married anyway. I'm almost twice her age, and I found out that she has a kid. And, she's from some remote rural part of China. In addition, I'm an American and my Chinese is very, very poor, and she can barely count to 5 in English. So, we both know we were never going to get married anyway.) Anyway, I think I started making some sense to her. She hasn't deleted my WeChat yet, and she reads my texts to her, and she replies, mostly with an insult, but sometimes with a question. And finally, she agreed to meet me one more time. She said if she doesn't feel anything for me when we meet, then we are done. I said okay.

So, that's where I am now. I am pondering what to do. Of course, I will meet her. But then what? Let's say we see each other and all is forgiven and we get back together. Then what? I am thinking about making the arrangement more explicit. Specifying the exact minimum number of times we must meet for sex. Otherwise, I feel like I'm going to waste both time and money. I do like her though. So, even though I know that I maybe should just cut bait and find another, I can honestly say that she will be very hard to replace. She has a great personality, she's caring, she's funny, she's sweet, she really likes me, and she has a smoking hot body.