Seeking Arrangements

[Midwestern]

There was a hot MP girl that I was banging couple of years ago. We always met at her place. But then she moved. However, her younger sister moved here, and she set me up with her sister. Her younger sister isn't as hot, and so after a few times of banging her, I stopped seeing her. After a few months of being ignored by me, that younger sister sent me a text asking if I wanted to do a threesome with her friend. I agreed. Ever since then, she is always finding new girls for us to have threesomes with. She actually contacted me today because she found another new girl. I will try to meet them next week. I think this is a pretty cool arrangement. And, I have to commend this younger sister. She knows she has become stale to me, but she has found a way to keep me coming back.

Any of you guys have girls pimping you out? It's a first for me.

[Big Boss Man]

So I've never done this "gifts ahead" type of approach. Obviously you are enjoying it in its own right and there is something sexy and submissive about a girl posing in something you bought. But does this lead to sex? Have you successfully pre-gifted and it led to sex later? I kinda never thought that would work. What's your experience?

It is not the smart way to go. It does allow me to get a feel for who these woman are. Some women just outright refuse to model. That leads me to think that the pictures that they put on Seeking were not accurate or old. The last two I am in contact with are college girls. I am having interesting conversations with them. It is kind of a turn on to have these women get more daring with every new outfit. I am not sure either one of these will lead to sex. Maybe I am not up for paying $400 to $700 for a sex encounter that I could have in Medellin for $50 to $100. The athlete's next outfit comes Saturday and it is totally mesh see-through so I am interested in seeing what she does with it. The other college girl gets in a new outfit today. If I like what I see, I am going to see if she might want to get together this weekend. The second one seems lonelier. I did not put her picture up in the previous post. Otherwise it might just end up being an amusing experiment. I have spent about $600 to winnow down a list of about fifteen woman who I have exchanged texts with to the final two. Maybe three if count the woman in Puerto Rico.

BTW, Seeking strongly advises not to send money before you meet these women. Two have outright ripped me off without a return of even a picture. I doubt they bought the clothes or even intended to follow through on it. So if it is going to bother you to lose $500 to $1000, I would not even think taking this approach. In fact, you should be following the methods of the all-stars like Steve9696 and others more successful than I.

[Anaggie]

Yeah 99.994% sure this is a scam. When you choose a girl she will simply need "a small fee upfront to secure the booking" and that's the last you will see that money. Prob doesn't have any of those girls in her stable. Just pictures collected from the internet. Classic catfish scam.

You are spot on. I deleted her number from my phone as her story on WhatsApp showed a bunch of models I think she just downloaded from the internet.

[Steve 9696]

This is what I have found in LOS Angeles for what could be under $500. At least ones that might be available to a guy nearing 70.

The first woman is a student athlete. I think that she is mostly a tease. I am trying to groom her to engage in intimacy. I buy $10 lingerie over Amazon and have her model. Each selection is getting more and more risque and she is getting comfortable showing her body. I told her that she will become intimate with me and she answered "Ha Ha. Okay. " Another time she answered "I am down for anything you want to do". She quickly pulled back. I am about $280 into this one. She is my most intriguing prospect and I think she isn't screwing every guy in town. I will have to decide when it is time to cut and run.

The second woman is very pretty but she is also very controlling. I think she would have too many rules to enjoy anything. She wants $400 for a 2-hour session. She has been on the site awhile so I think she is a pro. I spent 70 on her to model some lingerie.

The third woman is a butter face but has a banging body. She wants $300 but then is asking for gifts every other day. "Honey, can you give me $80 to my nails. " "Honey, can you buy me a vibrator. " I bought her some lingerie but she never modeled it so I think she is scammer. I decided not to see her. She did send me several nude potos and two videos of her masturbating.

The fourth woman is another butter face. She sent me all kinds of photos when I sent her money for lingerie. But then she left for Puerto Rico if she wasn't there already. She wrote me, "Oh I know better than to thinks it's free, you can always tell me what you want from me <3". So if she comes back to LA, I think she would be very submissive. I would like to find out. She is 20 years old like the first woman.

All in all, I hope to stop playing in LA and start traveling again.

So I've never done this "gifts ahead" type of approach. Obviously you are enjoying it in its own right and there is something sexy and submissive about a girl posing in something you bought. But does this lead to sex? Have you successfully pre-gifted and it led to sex later? I kinda never thought that would work. What's your experience?

[DramaFree11]

My trip started off in Laredo. A girl took the bus from MTY to meet up. She is a solid 7, but a freak in bed. No rules, crazy sex.

I have been averaging 2. 5 meetings a day. Sunday was slow. Had a couple of cancellations and no-shows. I did have to kick one girl to curb. She was 30 pounds bigger, then her pictures. I had Anal 3 times, and rimming by several other girls.

2 girls spent the night and 2 trips to S. Prime. Tuesday I had 2 meetings before lunch both included Anal, one was a new girl. Total rock star, we had Anal 3 different times. I was also to got 3-4 more phone numbers from new SA girls.

Did a little work now waiting for the Gonzaga Basketball game.

, a win is a trip to the final 4 and one of my regulars is coming over. Traditional Sex, but she is so beautiful. If she was taller she would be a 10 and I never use those words. It was hell of trip, now time to get my ass back to Austin to make some money, I should be home between 2-3 am.

There are a lot of haters now, we must ignore them. It all boils down to jealousy, so let's make more money, be a better person work harder and bang more girls. I put several guys on my ignore list and I will continue. It is real sad when we are a few that are traveling, actually meeting with girls, but for whatever reason we are called names and accused of lying, so strange.

[DramaFree11]

This is what I have found in LOS Angeles for what could be under $500. At least ones that might be available to a guy nearing 70.

The first woman is a student athlete. I think that she is mostly a tease. I am trying to groom her to engage in intimacy. I buy $10 lingerie over Amazon and have her model. Each selection is getting more and more risque and she is getting comfortable showing her body. I told her that she will become intimate with me and she answered "Ha Ha. Okay. " Another time she answered "I am down for anything you want to do". She quickly pulled back. I am about $280 into this one. She is my most intriguing prospect and I think she isn't screwing every guy in town. I will have to decide when it is time to cut and run.

The second woman is very pretty but she is also very controlling. I think she would have too many rules to enjoy anything. She wants $400 for a 2-hour session. She has been on the site awhile so I think she is a pro. I spent 70 on her to model some lingerie.

The third woman is a butter face but has a banging body. She wants $300 but then is asking for gifts every other day. "Honey, can you give me $80 to my nails. " "Honey, can you buy me a vibrator. " I bought her some lingerie but she never modeled it so I think she is scammer. I decided not to see her. She did send me several nude potos and two videos of her masturbating..

Screw that head to Tijuana. It is a short trip. I gave up on Austin and San Antonio, the best discussion I ever made.

[Big Boss Man]

This is what I have found in LOS Angeles for what could be under $500. At least ones that might be available to a guy nearing 70.

The first woman is a student athlete. I think that she is mostly a tease. I am trying to groom her to engage in intimacy. I buy $10 lingerie over Amazon and have her model. Each selection is getting more and more risque and she is getting comfortable showing her body. I told her that she will become intimate with me and she answered "Ha Ha. Okay. " Another time she answered "I am down for anything you want to do". She quickly pulled back. I am about $280 into this one. She is my most intriguing prospect and I think she isn't screwing every guy in town. I will have to decide when it is time to cut and run.

The second woman is very pretty but she is also very controlling. I think she would have too many rules to enjoy anything. She wants $400 for a 2-hour session. She has been on the site awhile so I think she is a pro. I spent 70 on her to model some lingerie.

The third woman is a butter face but has a banging body. She wants $300 but then is asking for gifts every other day. "Honey, can you give me $80 to my nails. " "Honey, can you buy me a vibrator. " I bought her some lingerie but she never modeled it so I think she is scammer. I decided not to see her. She did send me several nude potos and two videos of her masturbating.

The fourth woman is another butter face. She sent me all kinds of photos when I sent her money for lingerie. But then she left for Puerto Rico if she wasn't there already. She wrote me, "Oh I know better than to thinks it's free, you can always tell me what you want from me <3". So if she comes back to LA, I think she would be very submissive. I would like to find out. She is 20 years old like the first woman.

All in all, I hope to stop playing in LA and start traveling again.

[Steve 9696]

Stumbled across a "madam" on SA yesterday while replying to messages. I had messaged her and she told me that she is dedicated to these type of arrangements and gave me her WhatsApp. Texted her amd she told me her price. 100 k for 7 days😲.

She then offers other girls in Cancun and in DF. And then she proceeded to blow up my phone with pictures. I figured these girls would be your normal girls but I was fucking dead wrong! Every single picture was a 9 or 10 with some 11's thrown in for good measure. There was also a Miss Venezuela who was just drop dead gorgeous.

So I found one that I thought was a "girl next door" amd asked for her rate. This girl had legs for days, spinner, long black hair and a 10 on most guys scales. Her daily rate 90k 😲😲

I told her thanks. And ended the conversation before I made a stupid decision.

Anyways. Her SA profile is angeliqueg in Mexico City if anyone is interested. I have heard of these types of girls before and knew they existed but never thought I would run across them.

Yeah 99.994% sure this is a scam. When you choose a girl she will simply need "a small fee upfront to secure the booking" and that's the last you will see that money. Prob doesn't have any of those girls in her stable. Just pictures collected from the internet. Classic catfish scam.

[DramaFree11]

You would think that with this site actually allowing guys to talk about SA that people who belong to SA would not be demonized. Unfortunately, that is not the case. This is what an Admin, Admin 2 has posted about SBs and SDs and SA in the past.

You know I do not care much if people dish SA. What really bugs me is the censorship and what happens is that whenever this one Admin, Juan Carter, or this guy LuvMexicans show up, censorship and points follow. I am going to put these guys on ignore from now on.

I did last night, before I read you post. Yes, Censorship is going on big time!

[DramaFree11]

You would think that with this site actually allowing guys to talk about SA that people who belong to SA would not be demonized. Unfortunately, that is not the case. This is what an Admin, Admin 2 has posted about SBs and SDs and SA in the past.

You know I do not care much if people dish SA. What really bugs me is the censorship and what happens is that whenever this one Admin, Juan Carter, or this guy LuvMexicans show up, censorship and points follow. I am going to put these guys on ignore from now on.

Trust me, I can relate. They have been flagging my reports lately. This Totally not fair. They are able to call me names accuse me of lying, and there is nothing I can do. I finally put them in the ignore list last night. My life is great, I should not go to there level. Those guys are total losers and just cause problems. Definitely, the Admin. Are in in the act they are friends.

[Anaggie]

Stumbled across a "madam" on SA yesterday while replying to messages. I had messaged her and she told me that she is dedicated to these type of arrangements and gave me her WhatsApp. Texted her amd she told me her price. 100 k for 7 days😲.

She then offers other girls in Cancun and in DF. And then she proceeded to blow up my phone with pictures. I figured these girls would be your normal girls but I was fucking dead wrong! Every single picture was a 9 or 10 with some 11's thrown in for good measure. There was also a Miss Venezuela who was just drop dead gorgeous.

So I found one that I thought was a "girl next door" amd asked for her rate. This girl had legs for days, spinner, long black hair and a 10 on most guys scales. Her daily rate 90k 😲😲

I told her thanks. And ended the conversation before I made a stupid decision.

Anyways. Her SA profile is “ angeliqueg” in Mexico City if anyone is interested. I have heard of these types of girls before and knew they existed but never thought I would run across them.

[Elvis 2008]

You would think that with this site actually allowing guys to talk about SA that people who belong to SA would not be demonized. Unfortunately, that is not the case. This is what an Admin, Admin 2 has posted about SBs and SDs and SA in the past.

There is covert and overt prostitution. If a woman won't fuck you unless she's getting some kind of remuneration IMHO she's a prostitute, end of brother. She may be a low volume prostitute she may have a selective clientele but she's a hooker. Like I said, I like hookers, I don't hold that against them.

If you're the only one she's fucking and you're "helping her" or she wouldn't fuck you that's still prostitution.

If she's whatever age and she fucks you so good that you want to give her shit, you're in big fucking trouble, good trouble mind you, but trouble none the less and she would keep fucking you if you gave her nothing, she's not a hooker.

It's about their expectation of getting paid. If it's a condition of fucking you, regardless of what or how much it is, she's a hooker.

This isn't a ruling, it's my opinion.

And again, I really like hookers.

Thanks for clearing that up, when I read your original post I was thinking, fuck, got to start looking for the next place because Medellin just died.

There are no real SB's on SA. Real SB's don't have ads, they don't need them, they have guys who pay their bills. They might, and I stress might, be low volume prostitutes but they are not sugar babies.

You know I do not care much if people dish SA. What really bugs me is the censorship and what happens is that whenever this one Admin, Juan Carter, or this guy LuvMexicans show up, censorship and points follow. I am going to put these guys on ignore from now on.

[Steve 9696]

Seems like we could use a good FR so here's a blast from the past. I mentioned my shortest time from contact to sex on SA ever. This was earlier in my journey and a very unusual experience to say the least. I almost always go with the flow glass half full and its 95% on the money. This is one of those.

Well my wife is out of town. So what better time to do the hands on research than the present! So I started working Seeking Arrangement a couple weeks back. I had the Korean college fantasy girl all locked up like time and date and restaurant and then boom total ghosting. So I'the been scrambling to find someone new and hitting the lame local strip club in the interim.

Well the going on SA was very very tough. The south just sucks for pussy, period. So it gets to be 5 PM on a Saturday and I start just working the numbers. Any girl that is marginally acceptable I start hitting up. So I get a hook on Andrea. Definitely kind of a 6 face but clearly an interesting girl she looks like a different girl in each picture (and some look 7 or 7. 5 ish). Quite the Chameleon.

So we get to chatting she's 27 and been on SA for Five years which is unusual so she knows the drill and we cut to the chase. We plan to meetup with "the possibility" of private time if the chemistry is right. You know I am bit desperate because it's a two hour drive to meetup. But it's that or jerk off so why the fuck not.

We plan to meet at a little wine bar in a small town. On the way I realize my wife's aunt lives in that town and I don't want to run into her. So I call Andrea and explain and we switch to meeting at Twin Peaks (like Hooters) where we won't see any relatives. LOL.

So this is where it gets weird or interesting depending on your POV. I am waiting for her at a table with a jack and coke and realized she texted a picture of "this is what I am wearing" and it's a boxy formless suit jacket and dark goth lipstick. Not attractive. Fuck.

So she shows and sure enough. She is in flats, pants and the horrific jacket. She is wearing big glasses also. I can tell ZERO about her body in the bulky jacket and pants. So I am really unsure where this is going. She settles in and takes off the glasses. That is surely better. She's pretty but her nose a bit large / pointy for my taste. Mouth a little small. Pretty eyes tho. And nice smile. So I think let's try to make this work. I know the beer goggles will start kicking in so I start slamming my Jack and Coke. LOL.

So we have two drinks over an hour and a half and a pleasant enough conversation but the body language is very offputting. She sits pretty far away and no light touching or signs of affection. I am thinking this is a dud and considering whether I try to force it or drive two hours home empty handed. At this point she excuses herself to the bathroom.

Still unsure but figuring at worst I drive home and jack off. Hahaha. So when she comes back I lay it on the line and tell her I am having trouble figuring her out. It seems like she has no chemistry towards me or am I reading that wrong?

Well to my surprise she says: Oh no I really like you and damn you're handsome. It's just that you said your aunt lives here so I was being really cautious so I wore this and was making sure to not be too close or affectionate!

WTF? OK that was really sweet of her but almost led to a complete misread and a date with Mr. Hand.

So I say: Oh no. No chance she'the be here. We can sit close. She says "well good. Can I kiss you now?" And sure enough we have a nice light soft kiss. And then she says do I want to come back to her place which is about a half hour drive. Well you know me. I love a slice of life. So sure enough I follow her to her apartment. I get the feeling she must need a good fuck because she's going 85!

When we get out of our cars she has taken the jacket off and the frumpy schoolmarm is gone. The chameleon has it going on! She has on a tank top showing off a bunch of badass tattoos including a demon skull on her upper arm. Fortunately I kinda dig this and her body looks damn good as I follow her to her front door.

It's a nice clean little residential apartment and we set up shop on the bed. Nice kissing her on top of me in her bra and panties, me fully clothed. I love to be undressed and she does a nice job licking and sucking her way around as she gets me naked.

She gives a really gentle BBBJ almost being to the point of not feeling it (this can be improved) but it's pleasant and she's taking good care of me. Somehow we managed to get her fully undressed and I am surprised she has a neatly trimmed Bush. Haven't seen that except with the Viets in China.

So I flip her on her back and start some DATY. I punt pretty quickly to FIV and clit work with my fingers. It just seems to work better with her anatomy and I am not such a Bush fan. And man does she get sloppy wet and buck and moan we do this a good twenty minutes maybe more. She really likes strong gspot work and when you kinda finger fuck her but with your thumb on her clit. Kinda like holding her gspot and clit between thumb and index finger and sliding in and out and around. Just a sloppy mess.

Honestly I think she would have me do it forever but at a lull I move up and kiss her strongly. She has her hand on my dick and it's about an inch away from her pussy and she says "I really want you". This seemed a clear bareback invitation to me and that's on my bucket list but my big head prevailed and I reached for the condom.

Ooooooh the mish fucking was really good. I am using the Durex purple now thanks to my Aurora girl and they feel really good. We switch to CG and RCG and the bed is squeaking like hell and the headboard banging against the wall (1 Am). Neighbor must have loved us.

Then we switch to doggie and I pound out a nice shot in the condom. Even tho the doggie didn't feel as good, that animal pounding from behind just gets it done sometimes!

Then we snuggle with her head in the crook of my shoulder, completely naked and her thigh thrown over me. I had a five hour energy so I don't sleep but it's very relaxing. And she conks out. She's twitching from time to time like dogs do I their sleep so I know she is out. It's very sweet.

After about 20 minutes of rest I extricate myself get a kiss and start the 2 hour drive home, hitting the home door at straight up 3 AM. So I drove almost 5 hours in total! Fuck. What we won't do for pussy. It was totally worth it.

Morale of the story: Don't judge a book by its cover. That book might actually have a tight little body, badass tattoos, and fuck the hell out of you! LOL. 😂 When in doubt, always take the chance.

[Steve 9696]

Very true. I was thinking that I might be starting too early. Well. Now it is a bit too late to stop. Let's see how them his first batch does and if they flake. I will restart again with a few weeks before the trip like you suggest.

I ask a lot of questions to the girls about different topics and see their reactions to see how they would be like while together. After a while, people usually tend to show their true colors.

So I agree. Two months early is too early. I do it anyhow because I get bored. I may as well try to snag one and keep her. She's prob not going to be around in two months. And Valentina, Alexa, and Jesse were all long term snags of one or two months before. And two of the three are all time faves.

That said don't underestimate the last minute snag. Cristal and Megan were both snags at the last minute with less than a week before meetup and both are faves. And the Colombiana duo was less than 24 hrs! Record was definitely Andrea where I snagged her at 7, got in the car drove a couple hours and met her at 10! (Fucking by midnight).

So work it early, mid, and late. It's all good!

[Anaggie]

Then it sounds like you're aware of the risks and have a plan. Not sure what you need from the forum. Good luck, and report back with what worked / what didn't. The only thing I'll point out is that, by most accounts on various SB travel forums, you're starting way too early for a trip in June. 2 weeks out seems to be about the right horizon to establish rapport and reach peak momentum. Any longer and the most desirable ones get distracted by other opportunities. It's hard to keep bait on the line. I've found the perishability is down to days for some of the most enticing local prospects. Of course there's always the obligatory: YMMV. You might actually complete that cross-country road trip without any breakdowns in a 1973 MGB.

I wouldn't risk an entire week on someone I've never met in person, but I've done weekend trips in the blind 5 times now, batting 600. One flaked and took the travel advance, and one sorta catfished me. The other three were fantastic. The jeopardy can add to the excitement, so I don't discourage anyone from trying it. But again, probably not a full week, without some bailout options.

Very true. I was thinking that I might be starting too early. Well. Now it is a bit too late to stop. Let's see how them his first batch does and if they flake. I will restart again with a few weeks before the trip like you suggest.

I ask a lot of questions to the girls about different topics and see their reactions to see how they would be like while together. After a while, people usually tend to show their true colors.