Seeking Arrangements

[DramaFree11]

Your approach is way more complicated and would not work for the majority of mongers who got limited time. I doubt somebody would ever go your route setting up 2-3 meet and greets per day while on vacation or business trip, it is just not feasible. But it might work for someone who is looking for a SB in his local area, makes much more sense to invest some time in order to find a long-term arrangement.

Obviously, SW will go to your hotel / apartment, but will they provide GFE? Highly doubt it, even if the money is right. Pussycat is right, you can't compare good GFE which most Seeking girls provide vs some lousy service SW provide, it is day and night.

Again, this is not true. I am living this lifestyle. I just do not understand why you are having so much problems. You need to look at yourself and figure out what you are doing wrong. How is old guys succeed and you are having all these issue.

I just got back from MTY. The Venz. Chick flew and we spent Saturday night together. We had a great time, then Sunday after the models parents left, we were hanging out together.

[The Cane]

They all want me. That's what I keep telling myself. Yeah it's probably my wallet but a white lie never hurt anyone. Anyhow I am really having a bit of a time juggling a handful of babies both local and remote. I guess it's a good problem to have! Tho it does hurt my budget which is totally blown and well beyond.

So I just met Shayla the Cambodian hottie who I am in love with. And she wants to meetup this week as do I. Meanwhile Layla emerged from the ashes and is ready to rumble again. She wants to meet this week also. Think I can make both happen and trying to space a couple days.

Then I am booking a trip that hits two cities. Fortunately in city one I only have one girl. But in city two I have Kayla who has quit her job so I don't want to bag on her but in the meantime found a Thai girl I want to try out (kicking the no sex on first date girl to curb). So I'm going to give Kayla two nights and the Thai girl one night this round and then consider what next..

You're a better, stronger (and apparently wealthier) man than I am. I'm just getting started, and I can barely keep up already! Got a cute, white, brunette, "girl next door" type who is very interested into entering into an "arrangement" with The Cane! Well, she calls me by something else. "Daddy" hahaha!

[Steve 9696]

They all want me. That's what I keep telling myself. Yeah it's probably my wallet but a white lie never hurt anyone. Anyhow I am really having a bit of a time juggling a handful of babies both local and remote. I guess it's a good problem to have! Tho it does hurt my budget which is totally blown and well beyond.

So I just met Shayla the Cambodian hottie who I am in love with. And she wants to meetup this week as do I. Meanwhile Layla emerged from the ashes and is ready to rumble again. She wants to meet this week also. Think I can make both happen and trying to space a couple days.

Then I am booking a trip that hits two cities. Fortunately in city one I only have one girl. But in city two I have Kayla who has quit her job so I don't want to bag on her but in the meantime found a Thai girl I want to try out (kicking the no sex on first date girl to curb). So I'm going to give Kayla two nights and the Thai girl one night this round and then consider what next.

And fuck damn I have work and family and all that shit too. It's almost too stressful juggling the babies! But my dick will thank me for it. And you know what they say "Happy dick happy life!" Or maybe that's just me that says that. 😋.

[Steve 9696]

Been on SA with subscription for about a couple of weeks now, browsing through Shanghai SBs. Going on my first date tonight. Should be a M&G, could be more or I might get stood up. Wish me luck and I'll submit a report on both the date and the search experience later!

Haven't seen you around so the following maybe redundant if you are a lurker. But Midwestern who hosts this thread is the resident expert on Shanghai and might be a great resource for you.

Also I read in the Shanghai thread that Manhattan and Judy's are back open but maybe at least capacity. Prepandemic Manhattan was one of my favorite places on earth. Fifty Viet hotties all clamoring to make you their boy toy. Damn I loved that place. Def worth poking about and seeing current status.

[Pessimist]

Been on SA with subscription for about a couple of weeks now, browsing through Shanghai SBs. Going on my first date tonight. Should be a M&G, could be more or I might get stood up. Wish me luck and I'll submit a report on both the date and the search experience later!

I am less interested in details of sex and much more about details of the process. Such as: how many girls are in your area, age / attractiveness / other attributes, how many responded back to your initial message, how did the discussions proceed, pricing negotiations, range of prices quoted, how many girls actually show up to the date v how many cat fish / ghost, did you discuss sex directly or were afraid to due to local legality (isn't prostitution illegal in China and if they catch you, consequences could be dire?) and other such matters.

[Pessimist]

You can get a heavier or less attractive girl prob for that $300. But I don't know any top shelf girl in the US going for 300 these days. Maybe can get some for 4 (this seems to be the new floor) and 500 is prob more like it and you will have to work for that.

This is not accurate. I can personally state very definitely I am able to procure at 300 or even 250, and have done so. As I stated a few times, prices are actually lower now than they were pre pandemic. As always, location matters and the resolve of the dude matters. More patience, more search lead to better outcomes. And the girls I seek and have sex with are White, sub-25, slim girls who are pretty to me. If I wanted Latina, black girls, I'd think they may be at lower amounts but I filter out all dark skinned girls. Surprisingly, some Latinas have inflated self worth and have quoted absurdly high prices. If they are fair skinned, have no exaggerated Latino features (face or body), then they could command similar rates as White girls. But yes, 300 is absolutely doable. Not in coastal expensive cities but in the inland empire, they are feasible.

[Kilkelly4u]

Been on SA with subscription for about a couple of weeks now, browsing through Shanghai SBs. Going on my first date tonight. Should be a M&G, could be more or I might get stood up. Wish me luck and I'll submit a report on both the date and the search experience later!

[Elvis 2008]

I paid the $100 to message women and have been writing and sending some text messages but nothing. I have found one really hot blonde and she wanted $500 and that is above what I want. I am in Colorado so maybe it is my state. I am not sure but right now I am just going back to CDMX for now and will spend the money there.

Maybe Mexico and Mde has broken me but I am will to spend $300 but it seems a few of these chicks want an allowance and that is not what I want. I have another 2 weeks or so before my renewal hits, so if anyone has any tips I am willing to listen, but I think the chicks in the US think their pussy are made of gold and charge that.

What I would do Jbj is just forget about the USA. I would head to Mexico City and focus on women who have visas to come to the USA. About one in 2 or one in 3 women I met there had them. Establish a relationship with them. Maybe fly to Cancun or Acapulco first and then meet them here. Make sure you have plenty of photos if you are single and claim that she is your GF when she comes here. Get a debit or gift card in her name and the first time have her pay her own ticket. If you are married, I would fly your gals to somewhere in Mexico like a border town like Tijuana or Juarez that you can easily get to and hang out with her on weekends. With those towns, you can just fly to El Paso or San Diego and walk across. Walking back in San Diego is a pain in the ass but Juarez is not as bad.

I had a woman I flew from Mexico to Texas three times, paid her $500 for 3 to 5 days and fucked the shit out of her those days. Just read the federal law the Mann Act and make sure that there is no way what you are doing could be described if trafficking. I would be weary of doing this if you were married, but do all you can to show she is your GF is you are single or get her a different excuse if she is coming to the USA. It is too bad she turned out to be mentally ill. The crazy ones usually are the best fucks though.

[MiamiBoy1]

SP, Pussycat gives decent advice with regards to using seeking in communication to a point. The problem is he openly admits that he is chasing barrio (ghetto) girls and acts like a john in soliciting them. He even gives out prices.

When I was in Bogota, I read the forum and no one gave any tips about how to use it. I think I was the first, and that was in 2019. What happened is that most of the women I met had never met any guy from the site. Time and again, I would meet the women, talk to them, they would get excited about being a sugar baby and fuck me without any mention of price. Soon after, I realized the times where no price was mentioned was way better than women who wanted a set price.

All in all, the better value for sex in Bogota were working girls. On average, these women were better in bed and better looking than the seeking girls. Pussycat says you cannot compare a 2 hour GFE versus a street walker but the SW will give you GFE and travel with you to your hotel if the money is right, and the money often would be the same or less as he was offering.

He even says the women he sought out were probably on other sites and that he pursued regular girls not models. Well, I wanted models, ones that were great in bed and would not dream of being on other sites.

Bogota has a numbering system of strata 1 to 6. The best neighborhoods are rated 6. See the link: https://www.colture.co/bogota/tips/t...m-in-colombia/.

Half the people are in strata 1 and 2. What does it mean if you get a girl from there? Think Harlem, Watts, or South side of Chicago. So would you expect a difference between a girl from the South side of Chicago in comparison to one on Michigan Avenue? That is the difference between 1 versus 6.

That James Bond thing he talked about was directed at me. Thing is I did not wine and dine women. I would meet them for a drink or snack at my hotel for a 30 to 60 minute interview and had on average 3 dates per day. I do not understand where he gets off saying he was fucking 5 X as many women as I did. Quite often, I was all fucked out. The point of my interviewing the women was to put them in the category of not interested, ho, or possible SB material. Thing is that I never would consider a SB if she was horrible in bed so they had to pass that part as well.

Point is that Pussycat has a great guide for getting the most women off seeking. I am not sure that is a great value though considering how cheap and easy you can find working girls, and he even alludes to that. I was interested in the best women though not the most women so use my methods if that is what you are interested in.

Your approach is way more complicated and would not work for the majority of mongers who got limited time. I doubt somebody would ever go your route setting up 2-3 meet and greets per day while on vacation or business trip, it is just not feasible. But it might work for someone who is looking for a SB in his local area, makes much more sense to invest some time in order to find a long-term arrangement.

Obviously, SW will go to your hotel / apartment, but will they provide GFE? Highly doubt it, even if the money is right. Pussycat is right, you can't compare good GFE which most Seeking girls provide vs some lousy service SW provide, it is day and night.

[Steve 9696]

I paid the $100 to message women and have been writing and sending some text messages but nothing. I have found one really hot blonde and she wanted $500 and that is above what I want. I am in Colorado so maybe it is my state. I am not sure but right now I am just going back to CDMX for now and will spend the money there.

Maybe Mexico and Mde has broken me but I am will to spend $300 but it seems a few of these chicks want an allowance and that is not what I want. I have another 2 weeks or so before my renewal hits, so if anyone has any tips I am willing to listen, but I think the chicks in the US think their pussy are made of gold and charge that.

No doubt if you get with girls outside the US, especially where prostitution is legal, you are going to get amazing girls and amazing price points. You honestly cannot compare the two. If you want an 8 for under $200 you can get that a lot of places. But not here. So you have to ask urself this. Can I do without pussy while at home stateside? Because if not you have to compromise in some way:

You can get a heavier or less attractive girl prob for that $300. But I don't know any top shelf girl in the US going for 300 these days. Maybe can get some for 4 (this seems to be the new floor) and 500 is prob more like it and you will have to work for that.

If u have been international u have been ruined for life. Unless you have the budget. Then the US door is wide open. you just can't compare the two at all. In the US $300 is unlikely to get what you are looking for in my experience.

[The Cane]

I paid the $100 to message women and have been writing and sending some text messages but nothing. I have found one really hot blonde and she wanted $500 and that is above what I want. I am in Colorado so maybe it is my state. I am not sure but right now I am just going back to CDMX for now and will spend the money there.

Maybe Mexico and Mde has broken me but I am will to spend $300 but it seems a few of these chicks want an allowance and that is not what I want. I have another 2 weeks or so before my renewal hits, so if anyone has any tips I am willing to listen, but I think the chicks in the US think their pussy are made of gold and charge that.

I don't know how it's all going to turn out, but in about a week and a half on the site, I have set up three meets and greets (2 blondes and 1 Latina). Except for in one case, there has been no explicit discussion of money, but it's implied (I figure I will wait until after the meets and greets because it all may be moot after those LOL). In the one case where money has been discussed, she (the hottest one) asked for $1,000 PPM. I have no plans to do that. If the meet and greet happens as planned and goes well, then I will make a counteroffer that works better for me. We shall see. We shall see!

[Jbj64]

I paid the $100 to message women and have been writing and sending some text messages but nothing. I have found one really hot blonde and she wanted $500 and that is above what I want. I am in Colorado so maybe it is my state. I am not sure but right now I am just going back to CDMX for now and will spend the money there.

Maybe Mexico and Mde has broken me but I am will to spend $300 but it seems a few of these chicks want an allowance and that is not what I want. I have another 2 weeks or so before my renewal hits, so if anyone has any tips I am willing to listen, but I think the chicks in the US think their pussy are made of gold and charge that.

[Elvis 2008]

I wish I know this before last trip. Will use it for my next trip.

SP, Pussycat gives decent advice with regards to using seeking in communication to a point. The problem is he openly admits that he is chasing barrio (ghetto) girls and acts like a john in soliciting them. He even gives out prices.

When I was in Bogota, I read the forum and no one gave any tips about how to use it. I think I was the first, and that was in 2019. What happened is that most of the women I met had never met any guy from the site. Time and again, I would meet the women, talk to them, they would get excited about being a sugar baby and fuck me without any mention of price. Soon after, I realized the times where no price was mentioned was way better than women who wanted a set price.

All in all, the better value for sex in Bogota were working girls. On average, these women were better in bed and better looking than the seeking girls. Pussycat says you cannot compare a 2 hour GFE versus a street walker but the SW will give you GFE and travel with you to your hotel if the money is right, and the money often would be the same or less as he was offering.

He even says the women he sought out were probably on other sites and that he pursued regular girls not models. Well, I wanted models, ones that were great in bed and would not dream of being on other sites.

Bogota has a numbering system of strata 1 to 6. The best neighborhoods are rated 6. See the link: https://www.colture.co/bogota/tips/t...m-in-colombia/.

Half the people are in strata 1 and 2. What does it mean if you get a girl from there? Think Harlem, Watts, or South side of Chicago. So would you expect a difference between a girl from the South side of Chicago in comparison to one on Michigan Avenue? That is the difference between 1 versus 6.

That James Bond thing he talked about was directed at me. Thing is I did not wine and dine women. I would meet them for a drink or snack at my hotel for a 30 to 60 minute interview and had on average 3 dates per day. I do not understand where he gets off saying he was fucking 5 X as many women as I did. Quite often, I was all fucked out. The point of my interviewing the women was to put them in the category of not interested, ho, or possible SB material. Thing is that I never would consider a SB if she was horrible in bed so they had to pass that part as well.

Point is that Pussycat has a great guide for getting the most women off seeking. I am not sure that is a great value though considering how cheap and easy you can find working girls, and he even alludes to that. I was interested in the best women though not the most women so use my methods if that is what you are interested in.

[Steve 9696]

I am so glad I kicked Sarah to the curb because next night another Cambodian hottie crossed my path and this girl is soooo my type. Prob not the 9 that Sarah is. But an 8 with a 9 personality will win any day. And damn she slays me. She's like textbook less pretty but actually more attractive to me, if that makes sense. Here's the full debrief!

And I violated a ton of my Seeking rules with this girl. And yet it's on. And it's magic! So happy.

She showed up on SA a couple days ago and looked super cute and sassy. A Cambodian pocket rocket and right up my alley. And of all things 23 with a nose ring which has proven the largest tell of great things to come (go figure!

Our first date was early evening and some nice Thai food. For some reason going in I was pretty sure I shouldn't push for first date sex so I didn't. But when I arrived I was done for. Such a cute face. Totally my type. And bubbly and chatty and pretty much my dream girl. So I am definitely more in my head about not fucking it up than usual.

We vibe super well and have a really great time. Dinner is winding down but I don't want it to end and apparently neither does she. So we bounce to another bar and have more fun. Pretty much a great date. Other than no sex. But the vibe is clearly there.

So we meetup again the next night and I am def going to try to take it to the bedroom. Bear in mind that I have not used my usual patter to establish sex. And we have not discussed any figures. So going in blind here. Plus she doesn't drink sooooo really in new territory here.

We have a nice dinner and she brings up prior arrangements towards the end and we talk about the good and bad but never broach specifics. I am just getting so into this girl, eventually I ask if she wants to spend some private time together and she says sure. She says yes but maybe not tonight I came straight from work. No makeup. My hairs a wreck. Fortunately my charm kicks in hard and I say babe you look amazing. Don't worry about it.

She says OK if she can shower first and fix her hair. Of course I am down and moments later we are in the room together. (I had not booked ahead) She heads into the shower and I take off my shirt. After she's in for a bit I notice the door is open. I want to wash my hands anyhow since I'm planning to have my fingers inside her shortly. LOL. So when I step in I say "want some company?" and she says sure. What a great girl.

In the shower it's a great start. Hugging under the water and kissing. First quite tentative but then the tongues come out and it's full on DFK. She's not just sensual but a fun kisser. We will suck on tongues or lips or bite playfully and we establish a very sexy kissing vibe that continues throughout the date.

Back in the bed we start a bit slow but I like it. Lots of sexy kissing. Eventually I push her on her back and start sucking her nice bee cup tits and heavily sucking her nipples. Oooooh she loves this! Cooing and moaning and starting to squirm. I wonder if it's a bit fake or a put on. But when I reach down between her legs no lie the wettest girl I've even been with. She is completely soaked inside and outside I am slathering pussy juice everywhere as I start to finger her.

There is no fake with this girl. She loves a finger fucking and gspot work. She works her own clit while I finger fuck with the two middle fingers. She is gettting very loud in that very Asian way with squeals and squeeks and damn it makes me horny.

I maneuver into Steve 2 position, continuing to finger but putting my dick in her mouth. OMG I love that. She does a nice BJ. Mostly In and out but takes it deep and some shaft licking. No BLS but we can do that next time. Honestly I almost cum because her sloppy wet pussy is just killing me. But I suggest we suit up.

She was cold after the shower so I tell her to start on top to get warm. And boy does she. She fucks the hell out of her boy-toy and has two apparent orgasms. One in regular Cowgirl and then one in Asian Cowgirl. She's very vocal and appreciative! Again you can't fake that wetness so pretty sure this was the real deal. She's just a mess.

I think about having her finish me by mouth but we will save that for another day I want to make out in Mish. So we flip over to mish and I start a good rhythm. We fuck for a while and she starts building again and that is getting me going and eventually we have a joint shaking shattering O. Wow. Super nice.

Lots of cuddling and just a mutual admiration afterglow. We def awesome together.

A day later we started the "hey we should figure out the arrangement" discussion. Hopefully she won't hurt me too bad because I've been super transparent about how much I dig her. I'll let you know how it goes.

One more 23 year old nose ringed SB for me. Its a thing. I swear!

[The Cane]

Keep going mate I've been on SA now 5 years and it's absolutely crazy, I've fucked some of the finest and tightest pussy around. All I do is respect the girl, treat her like a princess and she becomes the ***** in the bed. It's rocking on SA my friend.

You got that right! If you're a man and you want to be fucking the finest pussy around, then money talks and bullshit walks! I wish I had learned this lesson much, much younger in life, but I didn't have any experienced and knowledgeable male mentors. Fuck girls being "sugar and spice and everything nice"! That's some bullshit, and that walks (except the sugar part haha). Money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac! I have a second meet and greet planned for next week. A Latina! So, one white girl and one Hispanic girl. Yay-uh!