Seeking Arrangements

[AmericanPi]

Well remember how the old saying goes. To "assume" about things you don't know makes an "ass" out of "you" and "me". Only, in this case "me" is excluded because she and I both had already tested clean and had the lab documentation to prove it. It's rare, rare, rare for me to engage in BBFS when it comes to P4P. Can only recall less than a handful of times in my entire life. About how often I've wasted money on a lottery ticket! Ha! And so far so good. Carry forth and keep on fucking!

Cmon man. Obviously I'm making a statement about a broad range of people who seek this, not the one exception of a guy who does it rarely and has lab documentation from both parties in hand. You can make a general statement that eating Burger King every day is unhealthy even if some guy somewhere says it's totally fine because he does it every day but only ever orders the salad and a water. It would be cumbersome to talk about topics if you had to asterisk and footnote anomalies and exceptional edge cases every time you made an observation.

[VanessasClient]

I posted something in the Paris thread and Steve suggested that I share my experience so far here.

I'm AARP age, reasonably fit and neither ugly nor particularly handsome. One advantage that I have is that I speak French very well (though many of the women that I contacted also speak English well). I'm well educated and my financial details listed on Seeking are modest.

I've been pleasantly surprised by my experience so far of using Seeking for finding companionship in Paris. As I head off for the City of Light in several days, I have arranged agreements with three women to have meet-and-greets with me. I messaged a lot of women (about 25) with a standard message and more than a few responded to me-I probably got about 12 messages indicating some level of initial interest. I was able to move half of those to messaging on WhatsApp and I settled on three as my main candidates to meet. That's a much better experience than I have had using Seeking where I live, which is somewhere in flyover country in the southeastern USA I've had some good luck here at home but it takes significantly more work and time to get similar results.

So far, I have not discussed compensation with any of the three and they have not mentioned the topic themselves. Obviously I expect and plan to give any of them compensation if I have an intimate encounter with any of them. But they seem happy for the moment to play along with me and trust me to offer a fair deal if we move our relationship to my hotel room. Assuming that I am really interested in sex and the woman is too, then I'm thinking something in the range of 300 Euros would be a fair deal. One woman that I messaged with on Seeking appeared to me to be a pro (maybe of East European origin) and she quickly specified that her going rate is 500 Euros. She might be worth it but at the price, I would rather look for a well reviewed escort. I'm happy to take my chances with an amateur and see what happens. I will enjoy my trip to Paris whether I achieve my goal or not.

I noticed that Paris is really expensive compared to the rest of EU, especially when you look at girls from Euro Girl Escort. Maybe not if you go to brothels or looking on the street. This is a bit more intuitive given it's an expensive flagship city in Western EU, with a massive population. Inflation, the reputation that France has, etc.

You can find beautiful girls almost anywhere else for less than 200 EU. I found knockout girls in Portugal and Malta for less, even with the outcall surcharge. So 500 rings a bell for that city, if you are looking at independent providers online. Honestly, my suspicion is that girls from Seeking will likely want more. I could be wrong though. The only one I saw in Paris was right around that price, and she was a published Brazilian model who still does photoshoots to this day. Spends time entertaining Arabian princes on their yachts occasionally, etc.

Good luck, maybe there's a good deal right around the corner. Please share how it goes.

[CaptRenno]

I posted something in the Paris thread and Steve suggested that I share my experience so far here.

I'm AARP age, reasonably fit and neither ugly nor particularly handsome. One advantage that I have is that I speak French very well (though many of the women that I contacted also speak English well). I'm well educated and my financial details listed on Seeking are modest.

I've been pleasantly surprised by my experience so far of using Seeking for finding companionship in Paris. As I head off for the City of Light in several days, I have arranged agreements with three women to have meet-and-greets with me. I messaged a lot of women (about 25) with a standard message and more than a few responded to me-I probably got about 12 messages indicating some level of initial interest. I was able to move half of those to messaging on WhatsApp and I settled on three as my main candidates to meet. That's a much better experience than I have had using Seeking where I live, which is somewhere in flyover country in the southeastern USA I've had some good luck here at home but it takes significantly more work and time to get similar results.

So far, I have not discussed compensation with any of the three and they have not mentioned the topic themselves. Obviously I expect and plan to give any of them compensation if I have an intimate encounter with any of them. But they seem happy for the moment to play along with me and trust me to offer a fair deal if we move our relationship to my hotel room. Assuming that I am really interested in sex and the woman is too, then I'm thinking something in the range of 300 Euros would be a fair deal. One woman that I messaged with on Seeking appeared to me to be a pro (maybe of East European origin) and she quickly specified that her going rate is 500 Euros. She might be worth it but at the price, I would rather look for a well reviewed escort. I'm happy to take my chances with an amateur and see what happens. I will enjoy my trip to Paris whether I achieve my goal or not.

[The Cane]

I assume if a dude is bare backing girls he's paying for sex he's already got the things he can't get rid of. At least some of them. Makes no sense otherwise.

Well remember how the old saying goes. To "assume" about things you don't know makes an "ass" out of "you" and "me". Only, in this case "me" is excluded because she and I both had already tested clean and had the lab documentation to prove it. It's rare, rare, rare for me to engage in BBFS when it comes to P4P. Can only recall less than a handful of times in my entire life. About how often I've wasted money on a lottery ticket! Ha! And so far so good. Carry forth and keep on fucking!

[AmericanPi]

I hear lots of claims about unprotected intercourse. But I don't recall hearing any about having the winning lottery numbers LOL! Now, I had routine bareback vaginal sex with my one hugely successful arrangement through Seeking. I did it only because at 28 her tubes were already tied. She'd had two kids by then and decided she didn't want anymore. So no chance of an unwanted pregnancy. And her pussy was still super tight too like she'd never had even a single kid. And no baby damage!

It you're barebacking girls you're paying for sex (without testing), you are in a sense playing the lottery. Except the prize isn't money. And it's not a prize. And you can't give it back. And almost certainly if you play enough you're going to win. Never mind, it's not like the lottery at all.

I assume if a dude is bare backing girls he's paying for sex he's already got the things he can't get rid of. At least some of them. Makes no sense otherwise.

[The Cane]

There's lots of tales of guys getting unprotected intercourse from Seeking. And there's also lots of tales of people having the winning lottery numbers. You decide how many are true.

I hear lots of claims about unprotected intercourse. But I don't recall hearing any about having the winning lottery numbers LOL! Now, I had routine bareback vaginal sex with my one hugely successful arrangement through Seeking. I did it only because at 28 her tubes were already tied. She'd had two kids by then and decided she didn't want anymore. So no chance of an unwanted pregnancy. And her pussy was still super tight too like she'd never had even a single kid. And no baby damage!

[AmericanPi]

Nor would I assume any woman off Seeking isn't there primarily for the money; all else secondary. Otherwise they would probably be on another site like eHarmony, Bumble, or Match. They can have second or third motives, like dinner or emotional connection, but I would always assume money is the queen.

You must be new here. Have a seat. Grab a drink. Wait 5 minutes and some dude will pop up earnestly telling you a girl he's paid, and is currently paying in some fashion, is his girlfriend and she would totally be banging her dad's contemporary even without the gifts. The irony will not be lost on anybody but this person.

Take a sip of your beer, munch some popcorn, and enjoy the delusion.

[VanessasClient]

Met up with a girl recently but the arrangement stuff never came up. I took her out to a bar and then decent restaurant which she enjoyed, then back to mine. I even went bare with her. I already made plans with her again this week. When we were back at mine I was slightly worried about a scam but she seemed genuine and scammers don't usually sit through 3 hours of eating and drinking.

I've had one experience where arrangement stuff didn't come up before but I brought it up when I was taking her home the first time. Now I'm wondering if that was a mistake. That girl later told me she blew the first guy from sa for free hah.

Any tips for how to handle it? I don't want to inflate my ego and think I showed her such a good time she's ok with it, but at the same time maybe she's good with getting taken out?

How do I bring up testing / bc? I usually don't but we were somewhere I didn't have a condom at the time. Do you trust them enough to CIP?

Due to a couple factors, sex wasn't that great. Thinking back I usually don't enjoy sex on first dates that much, probably because I don't know what to expect or I'm worried about a scam. Any tips there? Meet and greet first LOL?

Just me personally, but I don't think it's wise not to have access to condoms. Remember, in life it's always better to have it, and not need it, then need it, and not have it. Same with being in a car, you can wear your seat belt your entire life and not get into a crash. You had it, even though it turns out you didn't need it.

On the other hand, let's say you never carry an EDC, or any other kind of weapon with you, and you go 20 years without ever encountering a gang member. Then one night, 2 to 3 hoodlums confront you, and it turns out they don't want your money. Extremely high probability you are going down, unless you happen to be very skilled martial artist, or olympic class sprinter. And guys like the latter two wouldn't be on a site like this, because they can easily attract women without money. Regardless, this is an example where you didn't have it, but you actually needed it.

There's lots of tales of guys getting unprotected intercourse from Seeking. And there's also lots of tales of people having the winning lottery numbers. You decide how many are true. While the potential repercussions of something going awry are not usually deadly as in the example above, certain STDs and the risk of pregnancy are quite serious. But. If you want to do it, at least you had access to condoms that it turns out you didn't need. Worst case scenario, a small pack of quality condoms maybe cost you $10, and you can save them for later.

Nor would I assume any woman off Seeking isn't there primarily for the money; all else secondary. Otherwise they would probably be on another site like eHarmony, Bumble, or Match. They can have second or third motives, like dinner or emotional connection, but I would always assume money is the queen.

[Buksida]

Yes totally safe. Baires is a wonderful city and these were what we go to seeking for nice regular girls making a buck on the side. No issues.

They were all dinner and a walk and head to room. I am always a dinner to room guy with very rare exceptions regardless of country.

Two were prob 3-4 hr dates and one was three days. Of course it started out as a 3-4 hr date. 😋

OK. Its worked well for me!!

[GoingDumb]

Met up with a girl recently but the arrangement stuff never came up. I took her out to a bar and then decent restaurant which she enjoyed, then back to mine. I even went bare with her. I already made plans with her again this week. When we were back at mine I was slightly worried about a scam but she seemed genuine and scammers don't usually sit through 3 hours of eating and drinking.

I've had one experience where arrangement stuff didn't come up before but I brought it up when I was taking her home the first time. Now I'm wondering if that was a mistake. That girl later told me she blew the first guy from sa for free hah.

Any tips for how to handle it? I don't want to inflate my ego and think I showed her such a good time she's ok with it, but at the same time maybe she's good with getting taken out?

How do I bring up testing / bc? I usually don't but we were somewhere I didn't have a condom at the time. Do you trust them enough to CIP?

Due to a couple factors, sex wasn't that great. Thinking back I usually don't enjoy sex on first dates that much, probably because I don't know what to expect or I'm worried about a scam. Any tips there? Meet and greet first LOL?

[VanessasClient]

I was really reluctant to try and use Seeking again. But seeing as I didn't have any luck on Tinder, the last thing I wanted to do is walk the streets looking for a girl, or go to a brothel.

So, I would up communicating on the site with about 30 women who were in the DR, which was my destination. Then I got contacted by various other girls from different countries, maybe nearly as many as from the DR.

Of the 30 from the site who were in my applicable area, I probably moved the communication from the site to Whatsapp with about 10 to 15 of them. Of those 10 to 15, I was eventually able to narrow it down to about 5. And I only wound up seeing 1 of the 5, mainly because the other ones just weren't offering what I wanted, either looks wise, price wise, or initial meeting preference.

She's nearly 20 years younger than me, and has a very strong work ethic. Highly motivated to make a good life for herself. Also, had absolutely no problem spending extra time with me, without asking for additional compensation. It was a very informal arrangement. But also she very much appreciated me and what I was doing for her. I would describe her as bubbly, humorous, and playful. She's still chatting with me now, and is not asking for money. I certainly have no plans on a long term commitment with anyone, be it this girl, or anyone else. But, this experience at least shows me the potential is out there. But, at the same time it took me almost 3 week of incessantly taking to various women, and paying for a membership that costs more than the price of the most expensive sex worker from Sosua or Chiviricas, just to be able to find 1 person. It's like comparing shooting fish in a barrel, to deep sea fishing. Hell, if you go out into the middle of the ocean, there's no guarantee you're going to catch anything at all. You could spend hours out there, all for naught.

From browsing around the site though, it does seem like it might very well be the best option for Puerto Rico. Got lots of messages from Colombia, and I strongly suspect many are from either fake profiles looking for online cash, or predatory women.

[FilthyBeaver]

And nothing worse than morning breath

Early morning bang has never really been my thing. I get horniest when drunk and have a custom made set of beer goggles. 😜 Morning my sex interest is low. But I think I am quite a bit older than you. I do just enjoy having a PYT to snuggle and then have breakfast with and bang the next nights.

[Steve 9696]

We're very similar there. THough I usually require / insist the date go till morning so that there's an early am bang also and I start my day off right. You ever do that?

Early morning bang has never really been my thing. I get horniest when drunk and have a custom made set of beer goggles. 😜 Morning my sex interest is low. But I think I am quite a bit older than you. I do just enjoy having a PYT to snuggle and then have breakfast with and bang the next nights.

[AmericanPi]

Yes totally safe. Baires is a wonderful city and these were what we go to seeking for nice regular girls making a buck on the side. No issues.

They were all dinner and a walk and head to room. I am always a dinner to room guy with very rare exceptions regardless of country.

Two were prob 3-4 hr dates and one was three days. Of course it started out as a 3-4 hr date. 😋

We're very similar there. THough I usually require / insist the date go till morning so that there's an early am bang also and I start my day off right. You ever do that?

[Steve 9696]

I have had good luck with Seeking in San Jose Costa Rica and in Mexico City. Did you feel safe and secure with them? How much time did you spend with them? Did you take them for a meal to check them out or just meet at your hotel?

Yes totally safe. Baires is a wonderful city and these were what we go to seeking for nice regular girls making a buck on the side. No issues.

They were all dinner and a walk and head to room. I am always a dinner to room guy with very rare exceptions regardless of country.

Two were prob 3-4 hr dates and one was three days. Of course it started out as a 3-4 hr date. 😋