Seeking Arrangements

[Pessimist]

I presume it's the obvious combination of American women placing too much value on their gynecological charms and the strange contradictions in our sexual mores.

Is it much easier to pick up women at bars and restaurants and other places for a free fuck abroad than in US? If so, that would validate your first sentence that American women put too much on their own pussy / tits.

If it is about different amounts of money then yes, US is a pricier country in some respects and women demand a bit more money. Then it is a supply / demand equation.

FKKs with which I am very familiar with are full of Romanian girls. They are giving away suck and fuck for 50 Euros. That would suggest that Romanian girls do not place too much value on their bodies as compared to other country girls. But I heard from mongers who vacationed in Romania that it is not any easier to pick up girls for free fucks in Romania as compared to Germany or in other EU nations.

[WyattEarp]

.........SA is touch in the states. A lot of work, but does work. SA is so much better in other countries, due to many factors. I am about ready to get back on in the states, but I know I will just get pissed off.

I presume it's the obvious combination of American women placing too much value on their gynecological charms and the strange contradictions in our sexual mores.

[Oneminuteboy]

This is one reason why I like to fuck for hours when I get the chance, because I sometimes have almost no idea when I might fuck again.

It's like I found my long lost twin. Exactly one of the reasons for me as well.

[DramaFree11]

Damn I am getting more down on SA. Maybe I just had a lucky streak. Had such an amazing dinner the other night. Best first date of my life. Just so much in common. She's a stripper and hair dresser so that's promising too. Then pretty much ghosted. Pinged her and she apologized for being busy. But then silence. Pinged again. Ghosted. Damn. Sad about that.

And then last night I was kinda chatting up a hottie in a destination city. Really nice. Went offline. Talked about meeting up someday. Then "I'm hungry and funds are tight. Could you send me some pizza money. " Damn. Said no and was immediately blocked. OMG. Why aren't there girls that just want to fuck for money! (Haha I know what you will say). But I mean like the 18 I had last year. Nice girls. Some extra cash. Great time. Damn frus.

SA is touch in the states. A lot of work, but does work. SA is so much better in other countries, due to many factors. I am about ready to get back on in the states, but I know I will just get pissed off. I will just keep working hard then travel to MTY. SA is working so well for me there.

[Steve 9696]

Come on Steve. Pick yourself up, dust yourself off and get back on that proverbial horse.

SA seems like a big numbers game. I'm sure COVID ain't helping in filtering the sugar bowl.

Thanks for the encouragement. Yeah getting a bit jaded I suppose. I still have Layla (she's "been sick" the last few days) and I have the awesome trip with Alexa coming up. I really should stop prospecting or at least stop whining about it! Life is good.

[WyattEarp]

Damn I am getting more down on SA. Maybe I just had a lucky streak. Had such an amazing dinner the other night. Best first date of my life. Just so much in common. She's a stripper and hair dresser so that's promising too. Then pretty much ghosted. Pinged her and she apologized for being busy. But then silence. Pinged again. Ghosted. Damn. Sad about that.

And then last night I was kinda chatting up a hottie in a destination city. Really nice. Went offline. Talked about meeting up someday. Then "I'm hungry and funds are tight. Could you send me some pizza money. " Damn. Said no and was immediately blocked. OMG. Why aren't there girls that just want to fuck for money! (Haha I know what you will say). But I mean like the 18 I had last year. Nice girls. Some extra cash. Great time. Damn frustrated.

Come on Steve. Pick yourself up, dust yourself off and get back on that proverbial horse.

SA seems like a big numbers game. I'm sure COVID ain't helping in filtering the sugar bowl.

[Midwestern]

Damn I am getting more down on SA. Maybe I just had a lucky streak. Had such an amazing dinner the other night. Best first date of my life. Just so much in common. She's a stripper and hair dresser so that's promising too. Then pretty much ghosted. Pinged her and she apologized for being busy. But then silence. Pinged again. Ghosted. Damn. Sad about that.

And then last night I was kinda chatting up a hottie in a destination city. Really nice. Went offline. Talked about meeting up someday. Then "I'm hungry and funds are tight. Could you send me some pizza money. " Damn. Said no and was immediately blocked. OMG. Why aren't there girls that just want to fuck for money! (Haha I know what you will say). But I mean like the 18 I had last year. Nice girls. Some extra cash. Great time. Damn frustrated.

This is one reason why I like to fuck for hours when I get the chance, because I sometimes have almost no idea when I might fuck again.

[Steve 9696]

Damn I am getting more down on SA. Maybe I just had a lucky streak. Had such an amazing dinner the other night. Best first date of my life. Just so much in common. She's a stripper and hair dresser so that's promising too. Then pretty much ghosted. Pinged her and she apologized for being busy. But then silence. Pinged again. Ghosted. Damn. Sad about that.

And then last night I was kinda chatting up a hottie in a destination city. Really nice. Went offline. Talked about meeting up someday. Then "I'm hungry and funds are tight. Could you send me some pizza money. " Damn. Said no and was immediately blocked. OMG. Why aren't there girls that just want to fuck for money! (Haha I know what you will say). But I mean like the 18 I had last year. Nice girls. Some extra cash. Great time. Damn frustrated.

[Nounce]

Sorry, didn't mean to come across as snotty and judgmental. You are right, the corridors did not look inviting. Did not get a good look at the rooms. But anyway, I guess I am spoiled by large FKKs. Not even all the FKKs are that good, with regards to facilities for that matter.

No worries, I don't get that from your reply. I was trying to be helpful to indicate the difference.

[Nounce]

The prices are quite good, about 400-800 HKD for around 45 minutes, depending on what you're looking for (500 HKD is about $60, and prices might be a bit higher now).

There are also floors for Russians, and Thais. Russians are usually more expensive.

You go to an apartment building, and the best thing do is to take an elevator to the top floor. From the top floor, you walk downstairs, and check out each floor. When you get to a floor with 141 girls,

That is why the rent on top floors are much higher.

Also, the room is small, and the shower is very small. Usually there will be a pile of clean towels in the room too. There are video monitors in the room so the girl already know who is outside with door closed. Some South America brothels have a similar setup but it was more like a motel. The main difference being the girls are standing outside the door, and there are bar or stripper pole for show.

[Thampi62]

Thanks! I watched a couple of Youtube videos; the rooms look dingy and the "girls" not my type. Looks like a 1970's movie scene depicting an AMP, tbh. I guess if I were a permanent HK resident with no other sex avenue I might consider it as a last minute desperate measure but when I watch this Fuji building I realized how good are the FKKs and how much I miss them. For that matter, even in HK I will look to find sugar babes if I am stuck there for a long time (and assuming I have the confidence the local commies will not throw me in jail on one pretext or other).

Its like Laufhaus in Germany. FKKs are awesome friend, but in between I try laufhaus for a change.

[Thampi62]

Google "Fuji Building, Hong Kong" or "141" with sex just before it.


These are skyscraper blocks full of small rooms (brothels) all over the place. All legal in HK. To be seen to be believed. Not aware there are located in any other place.

Great information. Read it as a paradise for mongers in HK.

[Steve 9696]

Well the vegas girl is possibly more "professional" and he is prepared to pay which is more than we would do for a bitter ex-GF.

Of course, I too like to keep my free ex-GF open but for me I have found that they need to have 'moved-on' and be with a new partner. If they are single and looking then they think my rekindled interest is more than sex.

Actually Alexa is decidedly non-pro and that's one of the things I like about her. She works in IT and makes pretty good money. I am paying her an allowance of course. But she's not all about that. When I said I could gift her X or maybe Y she said either is fine.

She's got a good head on her shoulders. A little flighty with astrology and such but has a life plan and saves money and just moved to a new apt. I helped her buy her first ETF. LOL.

She's actually not tops in my book for sex (high bar!) but took direction on the BBBJ well and is a real trooper. And DAMN she is fine. High eight face and a banging 9 body. Second finest ass on planet earth. And she literally has no idea. U know how some girls that are good looking (most?) use it like a weapon? Not her. She has no idea how fine she is. She’s just a regular girl next door — who’s pretty much a nine. LOL.

So yeah. Stoked.

[Midwestern]

Depictions of the 141 scene from WyattEarp are pretty spot on. Here's my take.

First, a little backstory: 141 refers to the code in HK law regarding prostitution. It allows a girl to sell sex for money. However, it is illegal for a business to sell sex, or for girls to get together to sell sex. Therefore, any girl that sells sex has to do it on her own. Well, talk about unintended consequences, but it gave rise to the 141 scene, which are apartment buildings with lots of studio apartments with individual girls selling sex. These apartments are all over HK. There are maybe several dozens of them, maybe more. In these apartments, more than half of the residents are real residents. But on many floors, many or all of the units are occupied by 141 girls. Some buildings may have up to several dozen 141 girls living or working in them.

You can always tell which floor has 141 girls, because there will be pink lights or other decorations on the halls, and there will be ads and pricing on the doors. Sometimes, there are pictures of the girls on the door. The prices are quite good, about 400-800 HKD for around 45 minutes, depending on what you're looking for (500 HKD is about $60, and prices might be a bit higher now).

Yes, there are 141 websites, where girls place ads and addresses and prices, and where you can also see monger reviews. I used to do research on these sites before I headed out, but that's a waste of time in my honest opinion. The reason is because all the positively reviewed girls will be busy with customers, sometimes with a line waiting out her door. So, what you have to do is just knock on doors and see who opens it. You have to make a quick decision on the spot: walk into her room, or say sorry and walk away. The only reasons to do research ahead of time is to make sure which buildings have 141 girls and get the addresses, and also to make sure you know where the building entrance is, because most apartment buildings don't have an obvious entrance.

So, this is why the 141 scene is crazy. You go to an apartment building, and the best thing do is to take an elevator to the top floor. From the top floor, you walk downstairs, and check out each floor. When you get to a floor with 141 girls, you will see the lights and the decorations and the ads, and you will start seeing other mongers. You start looking at the doors. Not only are there prices and maybe pictures, but they will also indicate whether they are busy with a client. If they are available, and you like what you see on the door, then you knock. Then, a girl opens the door. Walk in or walk away. Most of the time, every girl will be busy with a customer, even during the day and on a weekday. So, you go to the next floor. As you can imagine, part of what makes this scene crazy is that as you walk the stairs, you go past many other mongers, all looking for the same thing. It's the same with the floors. On each floor, there are a half dozen guys walking around, looking at doors, and some are even waiting in line (in fact, I waited in line one time, and it was well worth it). Many of these mongers are college students and locals, but there are some foreigners and expats, but mostly college students or locals. When you finally see some doors indicating that they are available, you knock, and most of the time, I will walk away. They may be not my type. So, I usually end up walking all the way from the top floor to the bottom floor, completely striking out. At this point, I might try a different building, but I will usually start all over again and take the elevator to the top floor. I will also think about the number of girls that I walked away from, and try to remember who was the best of the bunch and try to go back to her door (usually, when I return, she is now busy, yes, that's how active this scene is). And, on the second go, I will start knocking on every available door, without having any idea what's behind it. Eventually, maybe after I have done 2 or 3 rounds of going up and down the building, and after having knocked on maybe two dozen doors, I settle on someone. Once inside, the routine is you pick what you want on the menu, then shower together, then do the deed, then leave. Usually done within 45 minutes. Believe it or not, the service is quite good, probably because the girls know they are being reviewed on the 141 websites. I did a lot of 6's and 7's this way, and always paid less than $100 each time. Sometimes, I got lucky with an 8. Almost every single time, I thought the outing was worth it.

The next day, my legs are sore as hell from walking the stairs.

Again, I wouldn't recommend the 141 scene for the sex. I just think it's a crazy surreal experience. Something you should try if you get the chance, just for the experience.

[Pessimist]

The building is old but the rooms are relatively clean with shower.

Sorry, didn't mean to come across as snotty and judgmental. You are right, the corridors did not look inviting. Did not get a good look at the rooms. But anyway, I guess I am spoiled by large FKKs. Not even all the FKKs are that good, with regards to facilities for that matter.