Seeking Arrangements

[DiverOyster]

I recall reading someone's posts in the past about chatting with some Chinese girls who claim they are successful at F / X trading. I was looking for those posts but I couldn't find them.

I received a Hello message from a Hong Kong girl about a month ago. We have been chatting on Whatsapp almost daily since then but when I wanted to videochat she refused. She seems to be financially independent and according to her, she is just looking for a genuine relationship. She never mentioned any allowance. Different from other foreign girls, she never asked me for $ for an "online relationship" arrangement.

Now she wants to teach me how to do F / X trading. I'm not sure what she is after but I may just go along to see what will happen.

[Midwestern]

I don't know why, but I just remembered a funny story that happened to me from a couple of months ago. (This is off-topic, BTW.)

I was hard up for a date, and the mongering scene had still not returned to full speed. So, I invited an ex to Shanghai for three days. I told her to book a hotel for three nights and she did. Before her arrival, she told me how clever she was, because she discovered that a room was only $80 per night when she booked them separately, rather than booking a room for three consecutive nights, which came out to $90 per night. So, she said she was saving me $10 per night. I didn't think anything of it. On the first day we meet, I am balls deep in her, when there's a call to the room. The front desk says that she is late for her check-out. Yep, she had to check out at noon, and then recheck back into the hotel. Since I was an unregistered guest, I just took off. She went downstairs to check-out and then check-in. I sent her a text to let me know when I could return to the room. A few minutes later, she says she has to change rooms. I texted back and told her to yell at the front desk people to let her stay in the same room. She did. She was able to keep the room. But when she returned to the room, housekeeping was already in there changing everything. So, she had to wait for them. By the time I am back in the room, it's almost 2 pm. The next day, I just decided to meet her at 2 pm because I didn't want to put up with whatever hassle she had to go through on the next day. This kind of annoyed me, because I wanted to spend all day with her in the room, but oh well. Anyway, sure enough, when I arrived, she told me that she was in a different room. LOL.

I wanted to tell her that she's not clever enough out-think a hotel, but I then decided why bother. At the time, I was pretty furious. But now I just think it was funny.

[Steve 9696]

Already had the 1st meet. It is why I was surprised to find somebody like her in the Netherlands. Still need to have a few more dates to see what works best for the both of us.

Already met and done the deed. See seems to be a good match for what I need. Had I met her through other means she would be a decent relationship option.

That is awesome. I hope it lasts a while. Just don't forget the first rule of SB — it can Be awesome but then be gone without any warning — so always keep trolling. There's always a next one.

[Pessimist]

As was mentioned earlier about SA in different cities, you can't generalize too much based on a few personal experiences. Casual sex with civilians around the globe is even more difficult to make generalizations. Let's just say it's complicated..

Yes, I agree. I think it is not a wise thing to generalize. That was my point. In your prior post, I think you said "American women placing too much value on their gynecological charms".

This is a large country, almost as big as the entire Western Europe combined. To combined all of them with one sentence is not appropriate. That was the point I was trying to make in a rhetorical way.

I don't think Americans are too easy or too difficult, European women are too easy or too difficult, not sure that women in some countries place too much value or little value on their bodies speaking in a collective manner. From the beginning of my foray into this forum, I have been saying precisely that.

[Oneminuteboy]

Congrats! Let us know how it goes. Also, let us know how it goes if you convert her to a monthly allowance instead of PPM. I have done both PPM and monthly allowance, and I have found that both has its plusses and minuses. Maybe there is no obvious best practice, and it just depends on the girl and situation.

Already had the 1st meet. It is why I was surprised to find somebody like her in the Netherlands. Still need to have a few more dates to see what works best for the both of us.

This does sound good. But where in the journey are you? Just texted? Met up but no sex? Met up and done the deed?

Already met and done the deed. See seems to be a good match for what I need. Had I met her through other means she would be a decent relationship option.

[Steve 9696]

Against all odds I might have found a SB in the Netherlands.

Cute face but not a killer body. Has foreign roots.

She's on a sexual rediscovery journey. So the money is an extra for her.

Super relax and very down to earth. Has many talents and ambitions but hasn't capitalised on them.

We agreed on a PPM and I hope to built this into a long lasting agreement.

This does sound good. But where in the journey are you? Just texted? Met up but no sex? Met up and done the deed?

[Midwestern]

Against all odds I might have found a SB in the Netherlands.

Cute face but not a killer body. Has foreign roots.

She's on a sexual rediscovery journey. So the money is an extra for her.

Super relax and very down to earth. Has many talents and ambitions but hasn't capitalised on them.

We agreed on a PPM and I hope to built this into a long lasting agreement.

Congrats! Let us know how it goes. Also, let us know how it goes if you convert her to a monthly allowance instead of PPM. I have done both PPM and monthly allowance, and I have found that both has its plusses and minuses. Maybe there is no obvious best practice, and it just depends on the girl and situation.

[Mongerer88]

As was mentioned earlier about SA in different cities, you can't generalize too much based on a few personal experiences. Casual sex with civilians around the globe is even more difficult to make generalizations. Let's just say it's complicated.

As far as American sexual mores, I think a young American woman might be more reticent to be in a relationship with a man thirty years older. This I feel is not as big an issue in regions like South America and Asia. This might still be true for Eastern Europe as well.

Eastern European women were very open to Americans in the early 1990's. They have become jaded from being overexposed to Western European men. I see this jading in Latin America's major cities. It seems that I had more success meeting civilians in the secondary cities where foreigners were less common.

I very much agree.

I angered a poster in the Barcelona forum long ago by explaining some Birds and Bees to him.

He had some luck in shopping malls in Latin America (as did some guys in the Philippines) by approaching women, going to dinner and shopping, and getting sex in return.

There was a cottage industry here on ISG of guys who did that, with their game being how little, if any, they could give in cash at the end of the little fling.

I explained that this would not work in Barcelona. The Simpleton believed that a shopping mall in a non-English speaking country equaled sex. It does not, especially in a more wealthy country where there is no interest among the women to marry a foreigner and move to his country. It requires more components to the equation. It requires a poor woman with a significant amount of free time who is willing to take a small chance of making a large profit. Kind of the way the Underclass is drawn to The Lottery. It also helps when those women are indoctrinated into organized religion at a young age, especially that Pope fellow, who would tell them that commercial sex is wrong. That lady is better off in her culture of being seen on a date with someone instead of doing an obvious hook-up. Those principles do not exist in Barcelona, and over time are probably less likely to exist today in Latin American Capitals. And fortunately Seeking Arrangement has made the market much more efficient all over the world in terms of placing the ladies who are interested in a compensated arrangement into an electronic marketplace of like-minded buyers and sellers, leaving the girl alone who only wants to sell perfume, not pussy, at the shopping mall. Unfortunately for her, there are fewer physical perfume buyers at the mall, thanks to Amazon. But of course Seeking Arrangement destroys the market for the guy getting a lot of sex through purchasing goods and food for a lady with the vague promise of future cash that is never delivered. Notice that those guys rarely post any more on ISG, and my tendency to post about the use of the electronic market has earned me a Hater who tells everyone to return to The Streets.

I told the guy that I made angry that he was like the typical small child who calls everything with four legs a Dog, until someone explains to him that another name exists for the many four-legged creatures such as Horse, Cow, Elephant, etc. He said I was condescending, but hopefully he took my advice and didn't try the Shopping Mall technique there. Women in Barcelona will sell tail, but not in that manner. Of course the same can be said for the ladies on Seeking Arrangement who say they are not prostitutes and the customers who say they aren't Johns. Yes folks, you are. It is just a different marketplace with different rules and modes of exchange.

[Oneminuteboy]

Against all odds I might have found a SB in the Netherlands.

Cute face but not a killer body. Has foreign roots.

She's on a sexual rediscovery journey. So the money is an extra for her.

Super relax and very down to earth. Has many talents and ambitions but hasn't capitalised on them.

We agreed on a PPM and I hope to built this into a long lasting agreement.

[WyattEarp]

Is it much easier to pick up women at bars and restaurants and other places for a free fuck abroad than in US? If so, that would validate your first sentence that American women put too much on their own pussy / tits.

If it is about different amounts of money then yes, US is a pricier country in some respects and women demand a bit more money. Then it is a supply / demand equation.

FKKs with which I am very familiar with are full of Romanian girls. They are giving away suck and fuck for 50 Euros. That would suggest that Romanian girls do not place too much value on their bodies as compared to other country girls. But I heard from mongers who vacationed in Romania that it is not any easier to pick up girls for free fucks in Romania as compared to Germany or in other EU nations.

As was mentioned earlier about SA in different cities, you can't generalize too much based on a few personal experiences. Casual sex with civilians around the globe is even more difficult to make generalizations. Let's just say it's complicated.

As far as American sexual mores, I think a young American woman might be more reticent to be in a relationship with a man thirty years older. This I feel is not as big an issue in regions like South America and Asia. This might still be true for Eastern Europe as well.

Eastern European women were very open to Americans in the early 1990's. They have become jaded from being overexposed to Western European men. I see this jading in Latin America's major cities. It seems that I had more success meeting civilians in the secondary cities where foreigners were less common.

[Pessimist]

I presume it's the obvious combination of American women placing too much value on their gynecological charms and the strange contradictions in our sexual mores.

Is it much easier to pick up women at bars and restaurants and other places for a free fuck abroad than in US? If so, that would validate your first sentence that American women put too much on their own pussy / tits.

If it is about different amounts of money then yes, US is a pricier country in some respects and women demand a bit more money. Then it is a supply / demand equation.

FKKs with which I am very familiar with are full of Romanian girls. They are giving away suck and fuck for 50 Euros. That would suggest that Romanian girls do not place too much value on their bodies as compared to other country girls. But I heard from mongers who vacationed in Romania that it is not any easier to pick up girls for free fucks in Romania as compared to Germany or in other EU nations.

[WyattEarp]

.........SA is touch in the states. A lot of work, but does work. SA is so much better in other countries, due to many factors. I am about ready to get back on in the states, but I know I will just get pissed off.

I presume it's the obvious combination of American women placing too much value on their gynecological charms and the strange contradictions in our sexual mores.

[Oneminuteboy]

This is one reason why I like to fuck for hours when I get the chance, because I sometimes have almost no idea when I might fuck again.

It's like I found my long lost twin. Exactly one of the reasons for me as well.

[DramaFree11]

Damn I am getting more down on SA. Maybe I just had a lucky streak. Had such an amazing dinner the other night. Best first date of my life. Just so much in common. She's a stripper and hair dresser so that's promising too. Then pretty much ghosted. Pinged her and she apologized for being busy. But then silence. Pinged again. Ghosted. Damn. Sad about that.

And then last night I was kinda chatting up a hottie in a destination city. Really nice. Went offline. Talked about meeting up someday. Then "I'm hungry and funds are tight. Could you send me some pizza money. " Damn. Said no and was immediately blocked. OMG. Why aren't there girls that just want to fuck for money! (Haha I know what you will say). But I mean like the 18 I had last year. Nice girls. Some extra cash. Great time. Damn frus.

SA is touch in the states. A lot of work, but does work. SA is so much better in other countries, due to many factors. I am about ready to get back on in the states, but I know I will just get pissed off. I will just keep working hard then travel to MTY. SA is working so well for me there.

[Steve 9696]

Come on Steve. Pick yourself up, dust yourself off and get back on that proverbial horse.

SA seems like a big numbers game. I'm sure COVID ain't helping in filtering the sugar bowl.

Thanks for the encouragement. Yeah getting a bit jaded I suppose. I still have Layla (she's "been sick" the last few days) and I have the awesome trip with Alexa coming up. I really should stop prospecting or at least stop whining about it! Life is good.